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Hoochler (1 stories) (263 posts)
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7 years ago (2010-11-15)
Ssia, if you want a few more Bible verses to "cling" to regarding sex demons, I encourage you to check out my YGS profile by clicking on my name. There you will find a Biblical case made for calling these types of spirits demonic.

The reason I quoted from the Bible in this post was to answer an invitation made in this thread to correct an incorrect assertion that was made about what the Bible said pertaining to a particular topic. Now that I am reading the Bible for myself, I am finding that there is a lot of wisdom contained within it, but I am not finding the Bible to be perfect and infallible.

I know the drill here though. No matter what (and how much) is quoted from the Bible, it will never be sufficient to change certain peoples minds about certain subjects they wish to believe otherwise about, and that is OK.

Enjoy the greatest gift that God has given us (free will to decide our actions and beliefs for ourselves) to go about your life and to commune with demons if that is your desire. No matter what either you or I believe about these spiritual sex partners, the actual consequences (or lack thereof) for engaging in ongoing, willing relationships with them are quite independent of what any one of us believe the reality to be.

Your or my belief systems have no bearing on what the actual consequences will be of prolonged, willing contact with these beings (in fact, the best we can hope for in this regard is the reverse, that the actual realities of the spirit world will influence our belief system). The reality of "what is" will be the ultimate judge of the question of what the long term consequences of willing contact with these types of purely sexual spirits actually is. Let's just hope that each person does their own homework during this life and avails themselves of information from both sides of the coin and thoroughly thinks the whole thing through before setting something in motion they will later not be able to easily call back or stop which may have very significant negative consequences for them for a long time. Especially young people who have more of their life to lose and tend as a group to not fully appreciate their vulnerabilities in general (I include myself in this category when I was young).

That is why I post what I believe about these sex spirits (and have happened to have found an echo of these same beliefs in the Bible) on YGS, to get the people reading these types of threads who may be in the begining stages of this to have both sides of the information coin so that they at least have the option to think things over for themselves about these secretive spirits before circumstances in their lives just happen on their own and it becomes too late to realistically make a change in course.

It's not about condemning people approached for ongoing relationships by these types of spirits, its about educating vulnerable people about possible downsides to something facing them in their lives that they otherwise may not have considered and encouraging them to seek knowledge from more than one source.
Ssia (2 posts)
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7 years ago (2010-11-15)
Geez, or should I say Jeezuz...
What some call the bible has been edited and rewritten so much, that clinging to a verse here or there to condemn groups of people, seems rather ridiculous.
But more importantly...

Pinkyispink, You have a lot of inner strength. This has allowed you to find a way through a traumatic mess, and to find a bit of peace with your Joyce. Reading how you negotiate with her is pretty amazing. Trying to work a relationship with these entities takes a lot of effort, but you seem to have a communication working for you, and that helps. Personally, I think that some of these entities can respond well to genuine love and affection. I've also read that some of the not so friendly ones can be a bit disarmed by such positivity.
I had my first involvement with an entity, when I was 13, and I wrote poetry for it. I was very much in love with it, and we were together a few years. Some of what you wrote reminded me of my own experience, and how close we were.

Currently, I am involved with an entity that seems to exhibit gender "fluidity". --And I really don't think its because they are demon spawn, I think its more likely their nature includes shapeshifting. Maybe its a self defense/ self preservation thing.
I am familiar with Succubussed forum. I have a feeling that Joyce might be surprised (in a good way) by the information being exchanged. For instance, you described a feeling you've had of "going in to her," that reminded me of something I read on the forum. There aren't too many other places you'd read about something like that. The "too many hands" for a human, feeling has popped up numerous times in discussion.
After I met my current "date", I spent hours, maybe days looking all over the web, for info on my experience. I consider the forum an amazing resource, and my mind has been opened to a lot of possibilities.
What ever you do, hope the love continues to grow for you and those close to you.
Hoochler (1 stories) (263 posts)
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7 years ago (2010-11-05)
On 9-23-2010 Succubussed said to linus "...If you can find even one verse in the Bible that says that God does not want women to love women, please show me."

I am not linus, but here is a response to that request.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (New King James Version)
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.

Not inheriting the kindom of God is a very strong condemnation on these behaviors.

Last I checked, lesbians are homosexuals, and Paul (the Author) also made a specific point to condemn sodomites (men who engage in sodomy, male homosexuals) as well, adding further credence to the interpretation that lesbians are being counted as homosexuals in the verse and without repentance and change will not be allowed to partake in a God filled life on this Earth (inheriting the kingdom of God, of which going to heaven after death in the Christian sense is included as a subset of).

I am not preaching here or judging pinkyispink (that is not my place), nor supporting or discrediting linus and Vulcan. I am simply countering the false assertion that the Bible is silent on the matter lesbianism.
pinkyispink (1 stories) (7 posts)
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7 years ago (2010-11-03)
biblefreeme, mmm sorry but no I don't think so. I have voices in my head, my other trains of thought that I think with. I understand about multiple personality syndrome and I know I don't have the symptoms. Actually my psychiatrist says I have bipolar personality with depressive tendencies and delusional behaviour. Since Joyce stopped doing the hateful repetition of when I was raped I have been stronger, less prone to any manic or depressive extremes and I'm not experiencing any delusional episodes, according to her notes I tend to read upside down:P Thing is, do internal personalities warn you about something you cannot see and if you could hear you would hear it? I'm deaf I cannot hear anything and yet on 3 seperate times joyce has warned me by making a sound in my mind or by saying "watch out" in my mind. All 3 times I looked around in time to avoid being hurt. Perhaps it is just instinct or I felt the vibrations from the car but how far fetched do you have to go to disprove this. Belief is a personal thing. If I chose to recognise joyce as an entity because she proves to me she is real how can that be wrong? Note I do not believe in the christian god nor do I believe in the juwish/christian satan therefor I do not believe in demons. What is good is good what is evil is obvious.

IGoRawrX3 I kind of do understand, I do believe and I think that you have been strong to share this. Joyce is part of my life like my girlfriend is part of my life also. I could not imagine being without either of them:)
IGoRawrX3 (2 stories) (7 posts)
 
7 years ago (2010-10-30)
Very nice story. Yes its kind of like mine. I hope we can talk about this sometime. I'm really glad you understand.
biblefreeme (2 stories) (137 posts)
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7 years ago (2010-10-29)
i don't think joyce is an entity atall not sucubus not spirit not demon I think she is your sub cociouse your minds way of helping you deal with something traumatic the fact that you have counciling and psychiatrist just reafirms this I'm not calling you nuts I just don't think this is paranormal more like a second identity to help you heal
WReck72 (1 stories) (116 posts)
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7 years ago (2010-09-30)
Thanks for posting your story it was an perfect example of the fact that gender is a biological factor. I think most people do not understand or realize that. There's a lot I would like to discus however I'm having a hard time finding the proper wording and am a bit short on time. I would like to mention quickly not to be to upset about judgmental people. They are not you, and lack the proper perspective to pass judgment, this is why God reserved that right for himself and instructed his followers not to judge others. I am glad to hear you are doing well. You do seem to be harboring resentment I hope you can let that go soon. Keep it as long as you need though it's a normal part of recovery. Just keep tabs on it so you don't carry it any longer than you need.
ghostlylover (3 posts)
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7 years ago (2010-09-28)
I work at a television production company and we are researching stories in this arena. I would love to talk to you about your experiences. Please email me at ghoststoryusa [at] yahoo.com. Thank you!
VelvetLucifer (1 stories) (37 posts)
 
7 years ago (2010-09-27)
What a lovely name for the Incubus~

I hope you are doing well.
pinkyispink (1 stories) (7 posts)
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7 years ago (2010-09-23)
Ty Succubussed and Pjod I was unsure of the reaction I would get. Hearing people are easier to judge when you can read their body as well as their mouth.

Joyce, I have never seen joyce. As a dream, reality I dunnu but as it was it was the man that did it to me that I always saw. I relived the asault with him.

With Joyce I never have seen her. She is invisible. I feel her. I dunnu if she is in my dreams, I dream a lot of my girlfriend:) and other women but no one that I could say was her. I 'hear' her in my mind. She sometimes sings to me nad has made crackling banging noises in my head to warn or to alert or something. Sometimes I just think she does it to remind me she is there as if I couldn't feel her. She is bossy and she thinks she is my mistress but actually she is usualy just my friend. She tries.

As I said in my story she 'created' herself whle we talked after the 14days, it was june I think a year ago. She says it was actually july but I think june because I'm sure it was before my girlfriend's birthday. Please understand I don't remember so many things I did to people and times before joyce created herself probably because of the pils I had to take. Since she stopped I remember most of it. I have an eidetic memory for visual stuff so I tend to be right.

Sometimes I think joyce is like a spider, she has too many hands for a human. I dunnu what more I can say about her she is just here, she says she loves me far too much to be real. I still swear at her so much for what she does but we get along. I don't talk to my girlfriend about her anymore and that's pretty much the only way we roll along. I don't hide things I just don't tell because it causes arguments. I think sometimes she forgets Joyce is around. I just don't realy have anyone to talk to about her.

Succubussed, sorry I am not sure I can go into your site, joyce is unsure and she doesn't trust it. Just as I didn't trust this place. Maybe we will compromise.
Pjod (3 stories) (978 posts)
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7 years ago (2010-09-23)
linus.
What exactly is the truth? Your way of life, and your way of thinking? With that line of thought, you are no better than the extreams who believe in stoning a human, in the name of religion. Really, you are only a step up from that.
Sorry... Had to call Linus up on that post. That snobbish, better than thou attitude annoys me to no end.
rookdygin (24 stories) (4322 posts)
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7 years ago (2010-09-23)
When did this become a debate about partner preference? Everybody can we please stick to the issues in the story and not the original posters orientation?

Pinkyispink,

I understand your first reaction to my reply, no worries. When it comes to Incubi/ Succubi stories things get a bit 'heated' around here. Could you provide any more details as to when Joyce came to be with you. I know you stated that some of those memories are fading but anything specific to Joyce is what I'm asking about... (things like, images of this spirit... What does she look like? What did she look like the first time you saw her... Things like that).

Respectfully,

Rook

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pinkyispink (1 stories) (7 posts)
 
7 years ago (2010-09-22)
rookdygin

Hey sorry I read your post wrong, sorry. Umm I will wait for your question. I am being too reactive to things sorry.
pinkyispink (1 stories) (7 posts)
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7 years ago (2010-09-22)
rookdygin - How could I what?

If you mean how could I post this story for all to read? Joyce wanted me to. I trust her. I have had her in my life talking to me long enough 2 know when I can believe what she says and what she lies about. I trust she will keep me safe. She has demonstrated 2 me how she will keep me safe.

Tibrewalmanav1

Ok there is no way in a million lifetimes I would contact you in anyway whatsoever even if my life depended on it. If you knew me you would never have said what you said. I DO NOT ENJOY SEX IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER. I tolerate it I tolerate Joyce doing it because I feel I am more in control than she is but she initiates every time. If you knew the months of trial and error we went through to get to the point where I can tolerate and not throw up after

I am trying not to SWEAR.

Radisha you said"I do not think it is right for you to be in two relationships at the same time." I think TOUGH is an apt word. I did not choose to be with Joyce, I cannot stop her if she wants to do what she desires. I can only negotiate control. I love my girlfriend. She is my life. I love her more than anything else in the world and without her I am nothing. I have known her since I was born, I have grown up with her at my side she signs and she understands me she is hearing but I don't hold that against her. Is this wrong that I chose to be with one human?
rookdygin (24 stories) (4322 posts)
 
7 years ago (2010-09-22)
pinkyispink,

I am concerned, but not from a Preachy, Religious...'Oh my, how could you!?!' point of view.

I'm not sure my concerns are valid however, so I will wait to post them until I'm sure.

I am glad you have found someone to be with and that they have helped you through a very difficult and trying time in your life. I am glad you have worked things out with this 'entity'...at least in such a way as you are more comfortable with things...

Succubussed,

Could you contact me via my e-mail addie in my profile? I have some questions that require an answer from someone with way more knowledge than I have in Incubi/Sucubi lore. I would rather have them answered first than 'jump off into the unknown' and put my foot into my mouth...😲 Thanks in Advance.

Respectfully,

Rook
LouSlips (10 stories) (979 posts)
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7 years ago (2010-09-22)
Tiberwalmanav,
I certainly sense a bit of a language barrier here... But please choose your words carefully. Your "excitement" you reference in previous posts to similar stories; and the fact that you just told a sixteen year old sexual assault victim that "you like sex", is more than a bit creepy.

Lou
tibrewalmanav1 (7 posts)
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7 years ago (2010-09-21)
i think if you like s*x there is no problem but do read possibe pregnancy with a incubus. But do remember you are a girl and he/she is a incubus. I like s*x. Contact me please I want to talk to you personaly. Contact tibrewalmanav [at] zapak.com
Rashidah (guest)
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7 years ago (2010-09-21)
Well said Pjod.

Pinky I hope these advice has helped you out a lot.

Please keep updating ❤
Pjod (3 stories) (978 posts)
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7 years ago (2010-09-21)
hey Pinky,
I enjoyed reading your story, and very glad that you are at a happy, comfortable time in your life now. Do not pay attention to the ones that cry foul. Your lifestyle scares them. They claim to know God because they have read the bible. Yet, if they truely knew God, they would not come on here and judge you, as Vulcan has done... And done so without even answering the question stated at the bottome of your post. Why is it always the way... The better than thou folks are also the most insensitive?
Rashidah (guest)
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7 years ago (2010-09-21)
I understand that you may have a hatred for men after what you have been through.

But you have to know that there are men out there that are decent people who will do anything to defend a woman's honour.

Please do not blame all men for the faults of some perverted jerks 😐
Rashidah (guest)
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7 years ago (2010-09-21)
I am not preaching here. I think it is annoying.

Please follow your heart. You will know her the best.

Even humans have negative habits, what makes us different from a spirit who has?

I agree with Succubussed.

My only advice is that if you have problems getting over that awful situation, seek counseling.

I hope the lord truly heals you hun.

In my family, I have had cousins who have made passes on me. I know how disgusting that is, although your situation was much worse.

BUT
I do not think it is right for you to be in two relationships at the same time.
Please note that I have nothing against succubi.

Succubi are highly sexually charged. So that will explain the touches in public.

Respectfully,
Rashidah

And oh yeah Vulcan you are truly insensitive.
It took a lot for her to post this story.
Do us a favor and shut up. The Sodom and Gomorra fairy tale is over rated 😐
pinkyispink (1 stories) (7 posts)
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7 years ago (2010-09-21)
Ok, I have a psychiatrist and a counsellor. I have told them nothing about Joyce as they think I'm crazy enough. 2 b honest I have still a lot of probs and I sorta hate all men. Maybe scared of is more apt.
Look I'm not sure y I posted it anyways. Joyce said 2 so I did it. I am the happiest iv been since I was 5. I dunnu if I want 2 post much on this but I want 2 say, its not about god, Religion is just for other people, Joyce says there are no gods only powerful spirits who tell truths or lies about what they want us 2 believe. I just want people 2 C no matter how bad things do get beter, do fade. When evrything is bleakest there will be a dawn and a sunrise and another day and things change.

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LouSlips (10 stories) (979 posts)
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7 years ago (2010-09-21)
Pinky,
God blesses you regardless of your situation or preference. His love is for all, and regardless of your resistance, he will be waiting for you when you need him.
What happened to you should not happen to anyone, ever. I am sorry that this was done to you. Your healing is only a prayer away, and your belief... One miracle.
Warning to all other posters with advice... Please be nice, or shut up... This young woman deserves to recover the respect that was stolen from her.

Lou

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