Comments for 3 Years Of Hell: Page 1

akaye_36,

I have an incubus that sexually attacks me while I am awake. You need to reach out for help. Do not let 4 years turn into 5.

You need to find out what gates you have opened and close them, learn to effectively pray to Jesus and find a deliverance ministry to help and guide you. I am not saying you have to convert to Christianity if you you no want.

Sienna

If you live in a house put jade hanging from each back and front door.

If you live in a apartment just put in on the front door...

Or a back door if you have one. Also garlic, put it hanging from each widow, DON'T USE STRING, IT MUST BE RIBBON! Here is another, its folk-like, but put a pair shoes you are going to wear thorough the day, one facing one way, and one the other... THEY MUST BE THE ONES YOU HAVE TO WEAR OR ITS NOT GONNA WORK! THE SPIRIT OR EVIL BEING WILL GET CONFUSED AND LEAVE. HERES ANOTHER REMEDY, PUT GRAINS OF SALT, HOLY WATER (sprinkle this first!), SAND, CINNAMON, COFFEE GRINDS AND SAGE, ALL OVER THE FLOOR AND THE BEING WITH CONFUSED AND COUNT EACH ONE, THEY FORGET EACH ONE THAT WAS COUNTED AND START OVER, AND OVER... AND GIVE UP AFTER TRYING SO MANY TIMES. PUT IT ALLLL OVER THE KITCHEN FLOORRR! Clean it up in the morning and restart the routine agian... IT MUST BE FRESH TO WORK!
OR USE THIS SITE TO HELP: www.hollowhill.com/guide/ifghost.htm ITS WHERE I GET MOST OF MY REMEDYS!
~Eclipse2ooo~

I have had a very similar experience. It has now been about 4 years that whatever this is has been following me around. I can't see it but I can sure feel it. It happens when I try to lay on the couch and watch tv or lay in the bed. It doesn't matter if I go stay with someone else whatever this is follows me. It even happens as I'm driving. I can here heavy breathing at times and the sounds of sex. I don't know how else to explain the sounds without sounding nasty. It sounds as if there is someone masturbating, I guess that is the best way I can describe it. At times it feels as if there is more than 1 of what ever the hell this is, performing oral sex on me. I tried to post my whole story earlier but right now they aren't able to except anymore posts. Has anyone ever heard of this? What in the hell could it be? Also I know right when it is fixen to happen I start getting goosebumps and the feeling of hair or something moving up between my legs. I am Very ashamed to say that it has made me have actual multiple orgasms. I have a very long story to post but I will wait until they can except more post to write about all of it. I have just found this site today and it seems to be very interesting. I am trying to find out what in the hell it is? I am to ashamed to tell anyone it sounds crazy as hell!

Please micheal I need your help I have this female demon and I don't know what she wants I can only feel her arousing me

You might want to consider trying a different perspective. Do some research on shamanism to possibly find a different interpretation of your experiences. Some shamans believe that there are no negative spirits, trauma in our own subconscious can surface during an intense encounter and the experience can be frightening, bringing up fear, anger, etc. Be open to the idea that the spirit may be coming to help you. Think of it as a tantric experience rather than a sexual assault. It's been my experience that they're not interested in hurting people and they're not interested in seeing a person achieve orgasm, or rather an orgasm is irrelevant. It's the energy that they're interested in, energy that can help a person shift into an altered state. Yoga and meditation can help to gain more awareness of kundalini energy which can be very sexual in the lowest chakras. When it rises through the body, the sexual arousal can pass and you may feel something more like universal love and a connection to the cosmos. It takes a clear and calm mind. Become a "hollow bone" as the American Indians say, free of worry and anxiety, free of all thoughts if possible.

Working with a shaman (an authentic one is hard to find) could help to make sense of it all and could help to contact your helper spirits. It's possible that this spirit is one of your helper spirits. There are some good books that offer exercises for taking your own shamanic journey. This belief system does not contradict Christianity or any other religion necessarily, unless a person has a fundamentalist view of their own religion and a need to reject other views of spirituality. There are archetypes in Christianity, Hinduism, Greek mythology, etc, that can sometimes explain the personality of these spirits. Christianity doesn't acknowledge the sexual aspect of spirit but I've had non-sexual encounters with a personality that seems to be the essence of the Virgin Mary, I'm more pagan so I think of her as grandmother earth.

I'm so sorry about your spirit. I truely hope the best for you. Just keep trying to talk to god and he will guide you.

Well, well, well... This is exciting. These kind of phenomena were described to me by my friends as per some mythology, angels or supposedly demons but if it were to be me I would prefer angels, coming to have sex with you if you were good at heart or something like that. I don't believe what they say nor do I enjoy it but definitely something like this has happened to me and it was just a vivid dream and nothing more than that, and you said you were smoking weed and had an intense attack, isn't it obvious as it is an illusion or hallucination as with alcohol too?

Hey OP. It happens when I'm wide awake. It's mostly stopped for the last couple days, but I've been having some very strange dreams. I pray, go to church, take my meds, and get acupuncture. I'm taking the advise of succubussed and just ignoring it as much as possible, so this is probably the last you'll hear from me, but I will be praying for you.

your deceaced father is righ maybe you should get a succesful job tydey your home and dress nicely wear makeup stupid crap like that I have had those sensations as I cleaned up my life it hasnt returned please try it and respond when it dose or dosent work it worked for me now I have a cat who if he sences a spirit or a bug he will stalk me to see if I'm ok lol try it please! 😊

Hey TheyReallyDo,
Does it only happen when you're asleep? Or wide awake? I would recommend returning to church and making the most of this experience. I too had fallen away from God, but through this experience I have gotten back in touch with my spiritual side and it has been a blessing. I feel like every negative experience can have some positive consequences. Also, as a virgin you might be tempted to go with this. I highly recommend you don't. Wait for a real woman and a real healthy human relationship. This will be all sex and bondage.

Scratch that last part. I'm taking my anti-phsych meds as prescribed and last night it was as active as it ever was. (sorry to take over this board, I'll probably write up my own story soon.)

Well, I've been on anti-psychotics for almost three weeks now, and I haven't had any-more "visits" for about ten days. The doctors in the hospital didn't think I was schizophrenic, because I have no family history, so they decided that I have "depressive psychosis". I still think it might be a succubus. I get an overwhelming feeling of... Weirdness when I lay in bed at night. I don't know how to describe the feeling other then 'not right'. I don't know whether it's the side-effects of my medication or I'm having my life-force drained, but I don't feel the bed shaking anymore. I'll stick with the meds, but I think it would be ignorant to just dismiss a paranormal explication right off the bat.

O_O a friend told me about this site... She said there's a story about Succubus / Incubus / Sexual Ghosts stuff, I had this similar story as yours... Help me please! It happened twice to me already! 😭

I don't think it's a drug interaction. I came back from a bike ride a few hours ago and lay down on the couch. It seemed to ignore me while I watched TV. When I turned off the TV in favor of staring out the window, I can feel the couch vibrating and it touching me. After reading the Bible for a few minutes I take a cold shower. When in the shower I can't maintain an erection, but I can feel it touching my butt.
It kind ignores me as I do my day to day activities, and I don't think it was on my bike ride with me, although my usually lightweight bike felt very heavy as I took it outside and put it back inside.

BTW,I was taking percocet, but since it's generic, it's named Oxycodone/paracetamol, and I guess I just never noticed the paracetamol part. My Anti-D is wellbutrin, which can be an mild aphrodisiac, but I'm only taking 1/3 of the recommended dose, so I don't think that's it.

TheyReallyDo
Hey Oxys will make you have sleep paralysis. How do I know this? I am a chronic pain patient and I have to take oxycodone everyday for severe and debilitating pain. I try to not take them everyday but the days that I do take them I will get SP without fail, everytime. The medication will also make you very hot and can make you feel like you are spinning. Your anti-depressants will also give you sexual side effects depending on what kind you are on will determine the severity.

I don't think you have a problem except you took medication that you don't need which is dangerous in the fact that you could hurt yourself. I don't know why your dr would prescribe you OC's for a wisdom tooth, this seems very out of character. Normally the prescribe percocet which has the tylenol in it.

And that would be superstition...sorry, typo demons got to me again.

TheyReallyDo: Because "why not"? Oxycontin aka oxycodone is an extremely addictive and perpetually harmful drug when taken in excess or when not needed. It is very easy to form an addiction which can just as easily prove fatal. Especially given that you're already on anti-depressants, probably not the smartest choice.

Also, the "witching hour" thing is supersition. Some people argue that it is supposed to mock the holy trinity or whatever, but that is a fancy story that came out of that Emily Rose movie. In actuality the term was first used in Washington Irving's The Legend of Hollow to denote the time period between 12:00 am and 3:00 am. Back in those days (post-Salem Witch Trials) it was said to be the time when demons, witches and black magic were strongest. Again, superstition.

There's nothing wrong with still being a virgin, but do yourself a favor and find a nice girl and do things the right way. Don't go looking up call girls and such because that's a good way to get diseases or otherwise robbed or killed.

I think this might be happening to me. Two nights ago I got a case of sleep paralysis, as I tend to a couple times a year. During the daylight hours I believe in the scientific explanation that I got off wikipedia, but anyone who's ever had sleep paralysis knows that during the episode, you believe in demons.
It's also probably worth noting that that night I found a leftover bottle of Oxycontin from when I got my wisdom teeth out a few weeks ago, and decided to take a couple, because why not?
So I wake up (3:30ish AM, is there significance to that, I seem to remember something from the exorcism of Emily rose.), go to the bathroom, tell myself that ghosts aren't real, and go back to bed. Once in bed I experience the weird bed vibrating that sometimes accompanies the nights of my sleep paralysis, along with my bed getting really hot. This is not as easily explained, and scares the shiat out of me. It's happened to me at college, so I know it's not the airbase near my house, or any number of other things. I get off my bed, walk around my house a bit, and come back to my room. I don't want to go to bed right away, so I boot up my laptop and... Relieve some tension. This helps me sleep, and it's like 5AM by now anyway, so I go to bed in order to wake at noon and experiences another long day of unemployment.
I wake up, make phone calls to prospective employers, take my anti-depressents, look up sleep paralysis online, and try to finish the second half of "The Brothers Karamazov". The ultra-religious classic (and demon fear) puts me in a good mood about God, whom I took rather seriously in high school, but had drifted away from at college thanks to 3 credits of religious studies.
That night (last night) I say a prayer before I go to bed. Then I stay up staring at the ceiling until two. I was afraid of the "witching hour", and bored, so I get up and ride an exercise bike until around five AM (this morning), when the sun starts rising.
When I go to bed I get "attacked" (I'm not entirely sure what to call it) in the manner described by the OP. Being a virgin (nothing to do with religion BTW, I'm just kind of a loser. I wanted to wait until I'm 21 before I finally give in and start looking up working girls on craigslist), I can't really attest to what oral sex feels like, but I imagine it's like that but static-y. The primary weirdness comes from the fact that I'm not horny at all, just hard. I didn't touch it, and it would not go away.
Once I accept that this is some sort of ghost, I get my bible off the nightstand and start reading aloud from whatever I find, which is mostly Psalms. Nothing happens. I decide to get up and take a cold shower. That helped. After that I went and slept on my couch for about two hours, then got up and googled "sucubus" and now I'm here.
I'm actually kind of glad this happened to me, because it went a long way to confirm the existence of God for me.
But it's still happening now. It kind of hurts. I try not to enjoy it when it doesn't hurt. What do I do?

i would first try to use sage to ward youre ingubus away. If that doesn't work circle youre bed with salt. Carry salt in youre pockets as well as some turqoise jewlery. Otherwise contact a coven for help. We wiccans are good people and they will be willing to aid you. At worst for a price

I should add I've been to the police and they just send me to the hospital, so its more likely than not I'm just being paranoid and anxious.

I ended up in the hospital because I woke up with a scratch on me. I freaked out and thought the succubus had possessed me to hurt someone in my sleep. Its been a long and scary month for me. I still don't know if I did something or not. That is why the warning about these beings. I have no memory of hurting anyone and pray everynight that I didn't.

How did you end up in the hospital and how are you doing now? Please keep us posted!

WARNING: These beings a dangerous. Please do not summon them or ask them into your life.

I have read your story and I understand what your going through. How ever I've near had a sex demon bother me, a demon yes, but not a sex demon was bothing me years ago.

1. Get a cross and hang it on the wall.
2. Get a Bible and set it near your bed.
3. Pray to God every time before you go to bed.
4. Pray in your mind if the sex demon shows up.

Take care,

Walter 😁

Out of the hospital now. I've been through such an ordeal with this thing. I guess I let it get to me this time. I will try to follow the dcctor's advice and just ignore it as much as possible.

Hello all

SucubussesSuck wanted me to let you all know that these demons are DANGEROUS and he had me promise to write you all telling you this.

Presently he is at hospital and sounds desperate.

Hi,

Sorry to hear from you such a painful ordeal still going through. But I hope you can keep your progress updated; may the guardians bless you and keep your willpower.

Hi;

I'm very sorry that this has happened. I am working with another young man from Boston with almust identical problems. You're fighting back well. I counsel frequent Mass and confession, assuming you're Catholic.

I hope you hang in there. It will intensify prior to Easter. Use the phrase "Jesus and Mary help me" - it does help a lot and use Catholic Holy water on your bed, especially at night. 9 PM - 6 AM are the pyschic hours, when demonic assaults intensify. Email me at Dukes2352atAOL.com. Hang in there. Things will improve, ok. It won't last forever - don't believe its lies. God bless you.

I am sorry for the late reply. I am now checking in with this story due to my studies.

I am shooting a mail to you now.

Thanks I would appreciate it. Send me an email at sucubussessuck at yahoo.com.

Psychic Shielding is focusing on your own energies to guard against negative spiritual beings and forces.

You were sort of right there, but it is envisioned as a white bubble or circle. It is a guard indeed.

The key is focus. That comes with constant meditation.

If you like I can help you. It is just an option I am throwing out here since everything else practically failed for you.

Is that where you imagine a wall around you? I don't really know about it I guess.

So nothing has really worked. I am very sorry for your situation.

The only other option that I can through out here which has not been discussed on this page is Psychic Shielding.

Are you familiar with the term?

Hi,
Well it follows me everywhere. When I drive home to visit my mom, it will be there too. When I stay in a hotel. There is no escaping it. I've tried to get rid of it through deliverance mainly. But it hasn't worked up until this point.

Hey have you try to sleep over with a friend and I think you should contact some one who can get the thing and send it back where it came from. I hope that's help and that you stay safe, if there's anything I can please ask. Sorry if this is all I can do but I would be happy to help more, I try my best.

Oh yikes. It's not like you can dance around all day =\ Well good luck to you and I really hope you get free from this thing, sounds like it's got a good choke-hold on your life:[

Well for it to happen you really need to be not moving. When it first started happening it happened everywhere... Sitting on the couch, driving my car, at the office at work. But now it pretty much exclusively happens when I'm lying in bed at night. Also, it follows me everywhere. If I go home to visit my mom, it will be there too.

Yeah I understand that. I don't know if you already do this but what if you just stay out all day if it only happens when your at home? Like go to a park or somewhere where there's lots of people around?

Definetly crazy. Or maybe they would believe me and I don't know if that would be better. Its not the kind of thing you want getting out.

Hmm. Do you think that if you told them that they wouldn't believe you and think your were going crazy?

Hi Nicolee,
No one knows. I thought about telling a friend recently, but decided not to.

Wow that sounds like a terrible relationship, I wish I had some advice for you but honestly from what I've read it seems like it's really hard to get rid of. What does your family and friends say about this? If they even know...

You know what? I've not wanted to get into this subject, and not for the reasons you may think. I've got a theory about why it is so difficult to rid yourself of this particular type of demon, and I can pretty much guarantee it would start a major flamewar. So in the interest of peace I'll just keep it to myself. But one thing I do know, in matters of the paranormal, that when it comes to demons you have to have faith, and I don't necessarily mean religious, that the remedy you are using will work. Every time you try to remove yourself from this creatures hold on you, you have to KNOW that what you are doing will work. When you don't put faith into these efforts you are just wasting your time and you know it. Nobody had to tell you that. You get out what you put in. If you can't put that last ingredient into the cure, then you maybe you ought to ask yourself why you are so reluctant. Why would you omit the most important part of any of these remedies? 😕

Hey Javelina,
I don't know if you've researched succubus attacks at all, but they are notoriously hard to get rid of. Its been reported by priests that they just laugh off exorcisms. I've had this problem for a while, so I've researched it a lot and have talked to a lot of people in the same boat. And the outlook isn't really promising. People have suffered with this problem for years. Most people can't seem to get rid of them.

SucubussesSuck,
Excuse me for jumping in here, but you said something very telling a couple of posts down.

" But if there is a way to get rid of this sort of thing (which I'm not convinced there is) I will eventually find it."

That statement may be the main reason you are having such a difficult time ridding yourself of this creature. If you don't BELIEVE that the remedies you've been persuing will work, then they simply won't. My question for you now is "Why?". You've been receiving suggestions from all sides in this matter and it frankly, I'm confused. Nothing has worked and most likely nothing will work with that attitude. You think your demon doesn't read you well enough by now to know this? To the creature you not believing it will work is the same as you not wanting it to leave you.
This makes perfect sense to me, and if you don't see that as a problem then maybe you should ask yourself why that is.
😕

Gosh... I didn't mean avoid a sex life by being one with God - that would be fascist! What I meant was to try and be a religious person to show it that you won't succumb to sinful molestation in hell. Also, find a significant other to be with - if it doesn't stop the demon attacking you then at least they will be someone you can talk to about it.

... I just thought it was worth pointing out that priests and such experienced succubi attacks most often because they surpressed their sexuality. You don't necessarily keep from being human to be one with God. Sex's primary objective is to propagate the species; it's no different with any other complex creature. Our bodies evolved so that it would become pleasureable, and in turn, ensure that the species would live on.

I think if you just try your best to be a genuinely good person simply because it's right, you'll be fine. No need to stop being what nature and evolution have made of your base.

Thanks Duality,
I don't think I particularly want to become a monk, but I will continue to use the holy water as a deterrent.

What I would do is NOT remove the holy water on parts of the body UNTIL the morning when the attacks occur the least. That way, you can protect yourself each night and eventually put it off molesting you. Alternatively, become a vicar or a monk or imam etc - that way the thing can see you are one with god/Allah/Buddha - the ultimate goal to me is deterrance.

Hey Duality,
Thanks again for your advice. I've tried religious stuff against it. I've found it dulls the sensations. Putting a bottle of holy water on the areas its touching at night makes it so it can't touch me, but the minute I remove it it comes back. I've seen numerous people for having a deliverance prayer, but I've had no luck with that. I'm currently trying to improve my amount of praying with hopes that when I try my next deliverance it will be weakened. I don't know. I wouldn't wish this on anybody and its been real trying. But if there is a way to get rid of this sort of thing (which I'm not convinced there is) I will eventually find it.
Thanks

Ok - I WAS wrong. It does sound like a monster of a spirit.

You mention it said it wanted to **** you in HELL? So far we have established that it is a demon from a religious background - after all, hell is the bad place in a lot of religion. What I would do is ask it it's name and background. After that, an alternative piece of advice is to try and put it off you as a target. Get religious items, ask a church/mosque/synagogue etc if you can enroll as a priest or a vicar or something. Or, you can even attack the spirit in the bedroom. Wave or hit it with crosses or shout exorcism chants at its face - put it off. Just make sure you are protected during all times - the last piece of advice is a last resort only - an unorthadox attempt to scare away a spirit.

But seriously, you need to deal with it NOW.

Yours faithfully,
Duality.

Hey Duality,
Definetly not. It says all kinds of horrible things to me. "I want you to die so I can **** you in hell". And other things I don't want to repeat here. Also, it basically rapes me everynight in my opinion. And my drinking got way worst when I was trying to dull the sensations of its touch.

I do not believe in Christianity (no offence meant) but one story comes into mind here: The Pharaoh and the seven plagues. Long story short it describes how a person who has done 'sins' is punished into changing his ways (temporarily in the Pharaohs case) by supernatural events. What you have may not be as evil as you think, despite the beezlebub incident, which may be something completely different altogether.

You say you were over-drinking and smoking right? Perhaps the spirit might be a certain entity sent to make you change your ways - okay, so the sex 'persuasion' might be a little odd to attack someone with,
But perhaps it's not a succubi (a 'dream' spirit), but an entity sent to
Help you onto the right track of life.

A possibility.

Yours faithfully,
Duality.

Hey Spiderwood,
Thanks for your response. I don't think my sleeping around and drinking was a result of a profound sadness. I was really just not taking life seriously and partying. Though I have sought out help for mental health issues and see a therapist now who treats me for my attacks. He treats me with anti-psychotics which worked at first but frankly have made my problems worse currently. I was raised catholic. And was very close to God and Jesus growing up. But as I got older I got into music, arts and literature and thought religion was something for the narrow minded and prude. I've changed my views of late. I've reread the bible recently and while the old testament doesn't do much for me, I find the new testament very interesting and moving. Also, my succubus has a profound dislike for Jesus and is constantly saying awful things about him or cursing me for praying to him, which just encourages me more. I've had some success with religion in weakening the attacks. Just no success in totally ridding myself of them. From what I've read succubi and incubuses are notoriously difficult to get rid of. But I'm committed and do not want to give up. Thanks for your response though. I appreciated your opinion.

I'm sorry you're having such a hard time with your critter. I must say I've never heard of one quite so aggressive.

You probably don't want to hear this, but the amount of power demons can exert over a person is limited to what you grant them. Yes, you most certainly don't want to be tortured and tormented by an evil spirit--consciously. However, the annals of mental health are full of examples of people who've made themselves utterly miserable, constructing all sorts of psychological conditions, simply because the subconscious mind is immensely complex and sometimes reacts unwisely to protect itself, making its problems worse. That's bad enough when it's just a matter of mental health, but when the spirit world becomes involved, truly ugly things can occasionally happen... As you've seen.

I suggest you seek therapy, and not specifically for your demonic problems. Unfortunately, most psychologists won't take that seriously. You mentioned that this thing began coming to you at a time when you were drinking a great deal, sleeping around, etc... Generally the conduct of someone not happy with themselves. Those issues are likely making you vulnerable to demonic attack.

That kind of thing takes time and effort to address, though. In the short term, your best immediate defense against a demon is to call on the protection of a more powerful being. Several posters have used this thread to preach Christian orthodoxy. They're correct up to a point: a committed Christian with a relationship with Jesus is unlikely to be vulnerable to demons. However, statements about Christ being the only true power in the universe are just religious swaggering.

I myself am pagan, and had a similar experience to yours years ago. My entity had no sexual element, but she was hostile and vampiric. I was not able to get rid of her myself, but ultimately the deity I serve (not Jesus) stepped in and did so for me. Decisively.

The reason you're likely having limited results with using Christian methods to ward off this demon is because you, yourself, have little tie to Jesus, and therefore no power to do anything in his name. I suspect that like most people in the West, you've grown up considering Christianity a generic sole force for good; that message is embedded throughout our culture. Aside from being incorrect, that kind of religiosity doesn't grant any spiritual power.

You've got two options: either commit yourself very seriously to Christ, develop the kind of close relationship that will drive away the demon naturally, or pick a different god. Many deities commonly worshipped in pagan circles are much less demanding than Christianity when it comes to their followers. Whoever you end up serving, though, you're going to have to take it seriously or, as you've found with your church-going efforts, it's not going to do much for you.

In any case, the best of luck, and blessings to you.

To the original poster, please go to www.creepyhollows.com They helped a lady who went through the same thing and you can get protective spirits.

sorry for double posting... But she is her... NOW! I can see her I'm so scared... Michael, please hold my hand... She is staring at us an asks "What's wrong with you guys? Can't a spirit have s... With her lover?!? Is this not normal?", Michael says "Well as long as he also enjoys it or even better, you are his soulmate, then it's great otherwise, no!" She screams really loud now and she's running all through the room! "I need him, I want him STOP TYPING WHAT I'M SAYING OR ELSE I'LL KILL YOU AND HIM" sorry but I have to stop...

that's awful! So you said you were convinced that God can help you... But did you truly believe it? Did you visualize that she's gone? Please try this three times a day (at the same hours) and it may help you, I hope...
And you said you can also hear her and you even recorded her... That's very scary in my opinion... I wish I could help you more, Michael can talk to her if you consider it will help you, but to tell you the truth, he is also scared... She is an Earth Angel, he thinks... That means she has done terrible things in her previous life and God will give her another chance, another life... Until then, she can haunt people and do whatever she wants! Michael says:
"I feel so sorry that this is happening to you... I think it's the worst thing you've ever experienced (and still do?!?) Drinking or smoking isn't the right solution... They'll kill you! Like too much medicine... I know that from my past life unfortunately... Do you want me to speak to her? I will if you want to... Have you got something that you want to tell her through me, besides you want her to go, to stop doing that? If yes, please tell me... I'll say to her that she makes you feel so bad that you may die! I'm sorry to tell you this, but maybe she kind of wants that because she believes you'll be together then! But she's so wrong... I think you'll be a Light Angel and then you won't have this kind of contact with her, only if you also want to (but I think you won't) because you'll be more powerful than her! You'd have the Light with you, you'll live in Heaven! She's bounded to live on Earth, she can't go up... I'll also pray to God for you... I truly hope everything will be fine..."

Hey Elizabeth,
Thanks for your message. I agree that the demons don't like the name of Jesus. I have experienced that, but unfortunately it doesn't make the attacks stop. Sex demons are unfortunately very difficult to get rid of.

Childofangel, if I read between the lines correctly, your sister is involved with an Incubus, and she likes it.

Who are you to decide for her that it's wrong?

If she wants to talk about it with people who won't judge her, there is a forum she can find by clicking my username and clicking on the "website" link.

A few words of advice, What everyone on here is experiencing IS Demons. Second USE THE NAME OF JESUS AND THEY WILL FLEE.

THERE IS NO POWER BUT OF GOD. THE POWERS THAT BE ARE ORDAINED OF GOD.

You HAVE to know the name of jesus.

They know not to mess with me. They have tried but once they know you know his name they will stop.

That wasn't your father it was the Lord dealing with you on your level and trying to tell you that he sees your suffering.

He is the ALL powerful god. Get a king james version bible and read it. It may be hard to understand at first but keep on seeking.

Im telling you now the Lord is dealing with you. When you pray, pray in jesus name Always. Jesus is God, Our Lord and saviour.

You do not have to go through this anymore. Just know that the demons know that Jesus is God and TREMBLE.

I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.

I'm sorry your sister is going through this ChildofAngel. Unfortunately, if she is inclined towards this kind of relationship, there isn't much you can do. Even talking about this kind of thing out in the open, can be incredibly tense.

This post, and its debates laid out below frighten me somewhat as they offer a glimpse for me into just what may be going on with someone I love. I hope things get better for you, perhaps there may be hope for all of us.

Been through this for the past seven years... Email me...bebe9765 [at] comcast.net

No the EVPs are gone. They were on my old phone. I recorded some new ones recently and they came out but not as good. I went to record some new ones a few months ago and an error message came up on the phone and I heard "it" say "don't record me". I then went back to play some of the older ones and another error message came up. So they're all corrupted. I don't want to mess with it anymore though. But even if I did I don't think it would let me record it again.

Hi,
Do you have those EVPs uploaded somewhere?
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Thanks Jim,
I really appreciate your help. I think I can beat this with your help.

Hi;

I'm on this case, and we're making good progress; it's been weakened! Keep praying for this person. In Jesus and Mary.

Jim

Hoochler, if you want to initiate a discussion regarding Sex Demons/Spirits and how you got to your current state of beliefs, why not post it as a separate story instead of amending your profile and encouraging people to discuss it (off topic) in your Ouija Board story?

nice post succubussed...
All things considered, it really is a strange world out there.

Sorry for one more big off topic post here SucubussesSuck.

Succubussed, I think that these sex spirit argument discussions are counter productive to helping people who are having problems and may act as a deterrent to some people seeking advice. I have been a part of this harmful argument cycle and going forward I will try to make my points in a more civil manner without engaging in the practice that both sides of this argument have used of putting words in someone else's mouth.

Some of the things you have said are true, some are inaccurate. As you mentioned in your last post, I do mention that I use a pendulum to talk to Metatron in my profile first before I mention any information I got from him. I did not mention anything about Metatron in my original post on this thread, and simply directed the reader to my profile in which the pendulum use is mentioned up front. I did not and do not omit that I use a pendulum.

As for me mentioning what Metatron said to me on this thread (I counted 5 times) by the point at which that happens I thought I was having a discussion with people who were concerned that I talk to a spirit through a pendulum. How could we be discussing my pendulum use if there was no mention of me using a pendulum? That makes no sense.

There was no "My angel told me" routine mentioned in this thread before it was brought up by others as the subject of conversation, nor shall there be such a thing by me in the future.

I was not denying that Metatron indicated anything to me about telepathy, I was simply saying I don't remember that as a subject of previous conversation with him. If he did indicate that I would have telepathy with him in time (which he may well have), then I would say that having ideas pop into my head from him would count.

For what it's worth, I think the method you describe as "stop, drop and roll" (ignoring the entity and sleeping in positions it does not like) is both a good analogy and good advice and I do not discourage people from that advice publically or privately. I personally think that this simple approach should be used in conjunction with anything else that may be tried.

I did not mean to imply that you ever said Pure resides in hell. I was only talking about how she insists that she has a physical body, wherever it resides. I could have been clearer in my words.

There are people I have helped, but there are some that I have tried to help that the efforts were not successful. As have you, I have learned over time methods that are more and less effective in dealing with unwanted spirits.

I have prayed about how to lower the level of discord here on YGS and now I have some ideas on things that are within my power to do toward that end. This attempt at establishing a new form of dialogue is the first fruit of those prayers. I do not desire there to be such intense and open discord as we have had in the past on a place where some people come for help (YGS). I will re-write the model in my profile so that it is a little more detailed and to mention other sources that I used to create it. Metatron was just one of the sources. Also, I intend (and hope) the model to be used as a vehicle for discussion. I would love for the model to be picked apart by others with conflicting information or ideas so that the model can be recast to incorporate new information if that information is plausible.

Understanding as much truth about these relatively mysterious sex spirits as possible is what is important to me.

I agree that religious debate here on YGS is pretty pointless and since all I can do is control myself, I will do my personal best to refrain from it and try to minimize the resulting discord. In the end I have no doubt that there will be plenty of agreeing to disagree on certain things and I am fine with that.

Hoochler, you've said a couple of things here that are inaccurate or untrue and they need to be cleared up.

Hoochler--"I understand why my presence here upsets you. "

No, your presence here on YGS does not upset or bother me. I made it very clear in my previous comment what it is about your behavior here on YGS that bothers me, and I will say it again. What bothers me about what you do on this site is how you present information that you obtained through a Pendulum as having been told to you by an Angel. If you said "What my Angel told me through the use of a Pendulum", I would be fine with most of what you do here, since it would give people the opportunity to decide for themselves whether or not they believe that you are actually communicating with an Archangel through the use of a weighted piece of string. But you don't say that; you say instead, "What my Angel told me" without any mention whatsoever of the means by which you were "told" unless someone calls you on it.

That's a pretty serious omission, and the only reason I can think of for you to repeatedly leave this fact out of your comments is because you know that your words will carry a lot less credence and authority if you mention the fact that instead of directly communicating with this "Angel", you're actually getting your information primarily through a Pendulum; a means (divination) that is strictly forbidden in the Bible.

Although you do mention once in your profile that you communicate through a Pendulum, this fact is buried beneath at least six subsequent statements that begin with the words "What my angel told me" or "What I have been told by my angel", and that's just counting your profile. If I had the time or the inclination to peruse your comments below (I do not), I am pretty certain that I could up the count of your statements that include "What my angel told me/What I have been told by my angel" by another dozen, and it was only when Sergeant and myself brought up the fact that you use a Pendulum to communicate with your "Angel" that you mentiooned it.

If you make sure that your comments to people on YGS who are being touched by a Sex Demon include the fact that you get your information by using a Pendulum, then I won't feel compelled to follow up with this very important bit of information that you keep leaving out when you try to "help" someone.

Hoochler--"Since you talk to a demon pretty much everyday, I learned some things from you that are baked into the model (most notably that demons have what they perceive to be a physical body in hell)."

That is patently untrue. Yes, Pure has told me that she has a physical body, but at no time did she ever give me any indication whatsoever that she resided in Hell, or that there even is such a place. In fact, according to what Pure has directly told me, Hell and Heaven are both man-made constructs that do not exist in or an any plane or dimension. Don't put words in my mouth, please. If you believe that there is a Hell, that is your choice, but it is dishonest to phrase your beliefs as if Pure or I confirmed this idea.

According to Pure - and this does not come from a string - "Hell was invented by Man so that Man could rule over Man through fear."

I'm not going to get into a religious debate with you here or in emails, but I did want to make sure that your beliefs were not being presented as having been confirmed by myself or Pure.

Hoochler--"As to your point that I am misleading vulnerable people, do you have any clue where I am leading them to? "

Yes, in my opinion, you are leading people away from the only method of ridding oneself of one of these Beings that I have ever seen work with any relative consistency and toward your own method that as far as I know has not worked once, including the case of SuccubussesSuck, the OP of this thread.

The only method I know of that has worked (and I have first-hand documentation of seven cases of success; five Women and two Men) for anyone is to studiously ignore the very existence of a Sex Being. It really helps if this method is put into practice as soon as the Human makes the decision to be rid of the Being before the connection becomes too strong, but I have first-hand knowledge of two cases where the relationship had developed into full orgasmic sex and the Being was communicating telepathically with the Human, but with careful adherence to the method of strictly ignoring the Being, the Humans were able to reduce the amount of contact that they perceived until it diminished to a point that made the Being lose the connection and leave. I have had follow-up communication with both of these people and they are still free of any contact.

Your method, on the other hand, has not worked even once to my knowledge, and has failed in two cases that I am familiar with.

So yes, I do think that you are misleading vulnerable people when you see someone post to YGS seeking help in getting rid of a Sex Being and then steer them toward a method that doesn't work.

A way to illustrate what I think is going on here is to equate it with someone being on fire. All I have to offer is a simple act, a sort of "stop-drop-and-roll" method. It doesn't work all of the time, and works better if done early before the victim is fully engulfed in flames, but it has worked and I have the documentation to prove it. But then you get this idea through your Pendulum that you've got some sort of super-duper-fire-extinguisher, and while I'm telling the person how to put the fire out, you're over there pointing them in the wrong direction (if it doesn't put the fire out, it's wrong, no matter how much "God" you steer them towards while they are consumed) when they should be focusing on getting rid of the Being as soon as possible. Like I said, the longer it goes on the harder it is to stop, so any roadblocks that get put up between the decision to stop it and using a method that has been proven to work mean a serious reduction in the chances of the person's success when they do try to ignore it.

And by telling people to do something that doesn't work in a situation as critically important as this, is in my opinion, Cosmically wrong, and I still say that you are committing a wrong by misleading people with your non-functioning fire-extinguisher instead of giving them some advice that might actually work.

Unfortunately for SuccubussesSuck the method I advised him to use hasn't worked, but I did try to help him get rid of his Demon. In fact, you and SuccubussesSuck will both recall that it was me who referred him to you back when I thought that there might actually be some validity to the things that you were being told by your Pendulum. I did this in a a genuine attempt to help SuccubussesSuck get rid of his Succubus, despite your assertions that all I do to "help" people who come to YGS in search of a means to rid themselves of a Sex Demon is to encourage them to have a relationship with it.

Yes, I do try to help those who want to pursue a relationship with their Sex being (although I try to caution those who I think are too young for such a massive commitment), but I am just as quick to try to help those with a Sex Being that they want to get rid of by telling them to employ the only method I know of that actually works even some of the time.

I know that you really believe that you are doing the right thing, but in my opinion you have been seriously mislead by whoever this Being is that talks to you through a Pendulum, and as a result you are causing serious harm in a field where harm can go all the way to the person's Soul.

As for the original poster, SuccubussesSuck and I met online four years ago (not three, as he thought, and declared in the title of this story) when he posted to another site in October of 2006, where he mentioned that he had been having this problem for about a week. In fact I've known SuccubussesSuck longer than anyone else that I know of who has been in contact with one of these Beings, and I think he will back me up when I say that once I became convinced that he really did want to get rid of his Succubus (and I fully believe that he does, which contradicts your assertion, Hoochler, that the reason your method has failed is because the Human has not really wanted the Demon to leave), I have done everything I could to help him in that pursuit. When the other site was closed down by the owner I maintained contact with SuccubussesSuck, in hopes that he could find some relief, and that I might be able to help him.

I do not, Hoochler, as you declare, make a practice of encouraging just anyone to pursue a relationship with one of these beings, and I believe that my actions on here YGS, and the actions I have taken in the case of SuccubussesSuck would indicate that I approach these sorts of situation with discretion, and the caution that the severity of the situation warrants.

You on the other hand, have been barreling full steam ahead ever since you first learned how to use the Pendulum, like some kind of bull in a china shop, and it is my opinion that you are causing harm through your well-meaning, but seriously misguided, ill-gotten advice to people here on YGS.

How ironic that this debate with you erupts on a thread started by someone that you told me you had freed from his Demon when in fact you had not (he wouldn't have posted this story if your method had worked), and that you came here trying to get him to email you so you could give him the same method that hadn't worked the first time. Even though you told me that according to Metatron, SuccubussesSuck's Demon had been banished for good and forever (and do not deny it as you've denied the several times you told me that your "Angel" had promised you telepathic communication. I keep very careful records, and can present documentation of all of your claims in this regard).

I am sure you can explain how Metatron was wrong, just as you've been able to get your head around all of the other changes in direction that would give a normal person whiplash as your Pendulum has taken you from one bizarre idea to the next.

At least Pure is consistent.

Sorry, for the continued hi-jacking of your thread here, SuccubussesSuck, but I think you will agree that it's critical that people in your situation not be given a bunch of bad advice by people who don't know what they are talking about, no matter how good their intentions.

Hoochler, anytime I see you commenting on someone's story who is in this sort of predicament with your "My Angel told me" routine without mentioning the Pendulum, be assured that I will be right behind you mentioning it for you.

Hooch, I understand, I will shoot you and email as soon I get a few minutes, honey dues. Jitow

Hi, Succubussessuck,

That's really good that you're not drinking so much. I've also drunk to blot out what was happening in my home, but I realised how much damage it was doing.

I've found the sage to be a bit tetchy.
I have a 'something' which the others here believe to be an Incubus in my home and the Sage did next to nothing.

Maybe try Cold Iron?

I wouldn't suggest just telling it to leave though, as Succubus and Incubus alike are deemed to be demons and won't take lightly to being told what to do.

I've got personal experience in this.

I'll ask around in my group of friends and see if there is anything else I can suggest, that won't have a backlash.

All the best
- Alice
Xox

Hello there, I am sorry you have to go through this. I can help you rid of this succubus. In order to do so contact me through email. Even afterward I will teach what you can do to keep them away. Jesus had already given you advice. I am here to tell you do not give up faith. With the powers God has give me I can you help you and so can my allies who are also under God. My methods are quite different. I have helped many on this site already and there are some that I haven't yet. For them I apologize.
Hello there Hoochler, glad to see you again. You can unblock my email because I fixed the virus problem. We got some things to catch up on.
Sergeant I applaud you for being born-again Christian due to your history.

S.S...I have a strong suspicion that weed puts our minds into a psychic transitional field... I think Edgar Cayce somewhere wrote about the effects of drugs and its potential to induce psychic encounters ETC...now, let me try and be more specific in my opinion on just how it does!...we have two known levels of consciousness... Our conscious state of mind!... Which separates us and defies us as humans and makes us the most intelligent species on earth and perhaps in the universe... Which some sectors and faiths of our community will say... That this is what God gave us (freedom of choice etc) and others believe that it is a part of evolution tracing back to the Lucy ape that manage to stand upright which stimulated our conscious thought process which started the human race... But this level of consciousness (to know right from wrong) is the only part of us that separates us from the animal kingdom... We are all sexual creatures by nature and to feel guilt about these types of experiences is a moral perception that various from individual to individual... And from faith to faith...I'm not here to argue about that!...what I do know is... That our minds are that spiritually powerful it can fabricate some of these sexual encounters (not real) regardless of our moral perception and conscious principles... But I also believe that during this transitional state of consciousness some of these experiences are the real deal... Interesting you had heard her voice? That is evidence of secondary nature... But still not solid proof in my opinion... You often here stories where separate objects move and strong amounts of force are used as well, I think those types of experiences are probably demonic and should be taken serious, but I don't believe all these experiences are demons... It is my belief the penal gland which is located in the back of our brain is affected by smoking weed... Unknowingly putting the user into a subconscious state of mind... Now I believe our spiritual consciousness lays dormant in our subconscious... So basically you are able to have psychic experiences whilst in a conscious state of mind after and sometimes weeks later from using weed... And maybe the one you had is a real succubus, which should of had a very intense feeling associated to it?...but I want you to consider this... I believe that our eternal spirit, has some unique and amazing attributes to help it function in the spiritual realm and one of those abilities is to project what I call reality fields... Basically to create a functioning world within our mind... Like when we dream?...so it is possible in my belief that you are the creator of this sex spirit... And that is why perhaps prayers, sage etc do not work... I have had many of these experiences in my life time... For probably 29 years and believed that they have ignited from my subconscious... Although one time I believe a real succubus was in my presence... Perhaps to let me know that they are real... Weed can be dangerous and can lead to mental illness which in my opinion in some people, is caused by the duration and lack of perceived realitys of two dual levels of consciousness...

If people want to keep commenting to me, let's not take up any more space on SucubussesSuck's thread with this. Please direct comments to me to my Ouija story thread and we can give this thread a rest.

Http://www.yourghoststories.com/real-ghost-story.php?story=3665

LOL, hopefully this will be one thing that we can all agree on.

I meant add from Luke 22 it is written,
8 He replied: "Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am he,' and, 'The time is near.' Do not follow them.

Isn't God's Word awesome, anything you need, He has it covered.

SS, I do apologize for your post being hitch hiked but what you are reading hear is very important to your own freedom. Now, Hooch, you seem like a bright guy and like you have been pretty busy in the spirit world. Surely you know that it would not take a real intelligent bunny to make your pendullum swing like you want it to. If you are feeding it the information all it has to do is swing yes or know. Evil's greatest tool against man is his pride and it is usually one of the forst place these things try, it is the basis of evil on earth. Now, could it not be that this things has been watching you, it knows that you want to help people it also may know that some hunger to be first to know something new, or know things that others don't know. It is a form of pride that gets us in trouble every time. Information is power, misinformation is tragic. It could be tragic for you and a whole lot of other people in the same boat. I see now why Jesus as Savior does not fit into your belief. Without Jesus there probably would be no Holy Spirit and if you believe that there is no Holy Spirit, then you think it is OK to talk to this other being. How could so many people be so wrong and for so long. I don't have anything against the Apocrypha, I think much of it is very useful. I also think that if God had wanted it to be part of the Bible, He would have simple made it that way and not let anyone take it out. I do think Enoch's teachings on angels is informative and most likely very accurate. The question is, as believers and as potential believers, do you, me, or we really need to know all the inter workings of angels to accept Christ as Savior and live a Christian life. I am afraid that something is feeding you what you want to hear and the further from the Gospel you get, the happier this thing is. I want you to test it in your next session and tell it that you really believe in your heart that Jesus is the Christ and came to save the world from sin, and tell us what the response is. You have already said that you do not believe that Jesus is the Son of God, please answer for me this one question, did you get this answer from the same place? If so, what is the soul purpose of the demonic? Mislead, confuse, and do whatever it takes to keep people from a saving relationship with Christ long enough for them to die and sometimes it talks them into taking that in to their own hands to speed up the process. I can tell that you are not the type of person that evil could hit head on and control but these things just as often play upon our intelligence as man and especially picking and choosing doctrine or verses and making a belief about it. I can see a whole congregation of these things coming to you if you do not believe that Jesus is the Son of God, that He died as a mighty and final sacrifice for our sins and all we must do is accept that sacrifice and follow Him. Your belief is right down their alley. How can you quote Corinthians and believe it and not believe who Jesus really is. Without Him, you cannot know God. I know that the Holy Spirit lives within me, it is ther, I see Christ at work in my life every single day and I can talk to God at any time. Why do you need a pendullum? Jesus said, Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me". John 4 and in John 7 Jesus said, 16 Jesus answered, "My teaching is not my own. It comes from the one who sent me. 17 Anyone who chooses to do the will of God will find out whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak on my own. 18 Whoever speaks on their own does so to gain personal glory, but he who seeks the glory of the one who sent him is a man of truth; there is nothing false about him.

Hey Alice,
I tried sage but no luck. And for the record I don't drink that heavily anymore.

My apologies to SucubussesSuck for the debate which has developed here.

Although I'm not a perfect man, I am a born again Christian and do my best to follow the words of Christ and pray about my life and loved ones.

Hoochler I pray that you'll root yourself in something more solid. As it is now, the critical advice you provide to people today is subject to change tomorrow, depending upon the swing of your pendulum or your friend Metron.

I firmly believe this Metron is the very same demon you asked satan to provide you. Your example (and one other person) is my main motive for discouraging anyone from performing any kind of summoning ritual. The summoner may not get what they expected.

My family and I have a good (and growing) relationship with God and I hope more people come to accept Him. But I don't know how anyone can be a spiritual advisor of God when their belief is so ungrounded yet professed as factual.

Again I apologize to SucubussesSuck and I hope he finds the relief he seeks.

I'm not going to tell you that drinking and smoking is making you imagine what's happening.
I believe you, completely.

BUT, and there is always a but, being intoxicated with anything can make you more vulnerable to attacks, even if they seem less severe because your drunk/high mind can't process what's happening.

Which is why it's so dangerous to smoke weed, or drink alcohol to blot it out.

Maybe try seeing a religious or spiritual leader, to help you?

Also, sage is said to have purifying properties if you burn it, but it's not a sure fire thing.

Email me if you need to talk

All the best

- Alice
Xox

Tired / Grumpy Rook posting here...

Can we please stop BASHING EACH OTHER here and offer our advice to the original poster?

Any and all advice, when offered in a polite and well meaning manner, can then be considered by the original poster (and others)... From there they can do their own research and discover what is right or wrong for them... What is true or false... No ONE person knows all (well from my point of view, he's been here and not come back yet 😉).

So can we please not bicker among ourselves and just get along so that we may help any and all who come here seeking help...

Respectfully,

Rook 😉

You listen to me very carefully. When did I attacked your 'angel' you are so bragging about? Also when did I judge you in my last post.

I made a simple statement on the pendulum. No need to get kittens.

When I last remember, your angel Metraton is usually contacted by magicians.

You are a know it all. If you knew so much, you would of also known that christians banned the Book of Enoch (the same book that the name Metraton is first mentioned) from the original bible.

Me leaving the church has nothing to do with your damned business.

Rashidah, the bible does say to not practice divination and divination is what I am doing with the pendulum. It is my understanding that the reason this rule is in there is to help people avoid contact with demons. In general, I think this is a good rule and serves a good purpose being in the Bible.

I believe the purpose of the Bible forbidding this behavior is to dissuade people from having undirected conversations with strange spirits and then having resulting problems similar to what I describe having had in my YGS posted Ouija story.

As Succubussed alluded to however, I jumped into all this feet first without a very good understanding and attracted a demon to myself. The demon was there with me whether I talked to it with a pendulum or not. Once the angel came, I asked him if it was alright to talk with him through the pendulum and to my surprise he said yes. I went from there.

But you are correct, the Bible mentions in more than one place not to practice divination, and I practice divination. I also have said that I think that the Bible contains wisdom but I don't think it is infallible and this is a good example where going against a general rule from the Bible that is usually a good rule to have has helped me in my special circumstance.

Also, if I recall you have a spirit that appears to you visually, talks to you and goes by the name Lucifer and you are cool with that. I also noticed from your comments and stories that since he came to you that you have left the church. At least my spiritual contacts are driving me TOWARD the Bible and TOWARD the church, not away.

If you are so up on the Bible, you might want to check out this verse.

Matthew 7:2-5 (New King James Version)
"2 For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. 3 And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? 4 Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me remove the speck from your eye'; and look, a plank is in your own eye? 5 Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."

You use a pendulum. That is divination in chritian terms. Or didn't you know that 😕

Sergeant, so now we are telling secrets out of school and twisting things around?

I won't repeat all the positive things I just posted that are going on in my life that dispute your assertion that I am working with a demon. If a person such as yourself would like to think that demons lead humans to God, then that is your right to believe I guess. Come to think of it, if I were in your shoes and had a demon appearing visually to me and talking to me pretty much daily, I might also be comforted by such an untrue idea as well.

I have learned some things since (and from) the experience you distortedly described. When you started lying to me about where you were, that was a big red flag to me that you are too far gone for me to help you. I also learned that a demon can be with someone if that person continues to invite them. An open invitation trumps anything others can do externally for someone such as yourself who wants to keep a demon in their life.

I have no "Dark forces" at my disposal, but what you are twistedly referring to in your comment was me telling you about a third person I know who can control spirits (both light and dark) and that he might have been able to help you. Since you have a demon with you (I know you don't think that is what she is) I thought maybe he could help. In any event, he was never contacted. Nice try though.

Also, nice try on twisting things in your description of my relationship with the Bible. There was a time (back when I was hanging out with you demon guys) when I thought the Bible was simply a tool to control gullible people. It was actually my angel that told me that was NOT true and that although the Bible is not 100% accurate, it has MUCH wisdom in it that I could benefit from. Because of what my angel told me about the Bible, I started reading the Bible and he was right!

I no longer expect people like you and Succubussed to believe anything I say, and that is fine. I have been told that you are both too far gone and that I should leave both you two and your demon forum alone. I have done this.

When you come on YGS and attack me or try and delude others on YGS about how great demons are, that is when I will address you.

Hoochler and Succubussed:It is not really my business but I think it has come to the point of agreeing to disagree. I can see this debate going on for a long time I have got a lot of respect for both of what you guys have to say in your posts, but this could one could end up being very drawn out. The best to you both.

Dan
😊

Hoochler, you keep saying "What I have been told by my Angel" this, and "What my Angel has told me" that, when what you should be saying is "What I have received as an answer to a yes or no question through a Pendulum".

In other words, you are "getting" your "information" through movements of a PIECE OF STRING.

You present your "information" as having some kind of Divine Authority, having come from one of God's Angels, but in fact, what you are presenting as fact is the result of tedious sessions with your piece of string, whereby you ask a series of questions that can only be answered with a simple yes or no (since that's as elaorate an answer as the string can manage), and you determine the answer by interpreting a slight movement in your piece of string.

And then you present this information to the World as having come from an Angel. A direct representative of God Himself.

I have a serious problem with this method of divination (what does the Bibled say about divination?) for several reasons, but the primary flaw I see in it is that you can only ask questions that you yourself tghink up, and your phrasing and sequence of questions will be shaped by the framework of your own thought patterns and belief systems.

I thought Mergatroid was supposed to have established telepathic communication with you by now. Why hasn't that happened as promised, and how have you explained to yourself why this "Angel" of yours hasn't fulfilled that simple promise?

I also think that it might be in the interest of the people to whom you so freely give your advice that you inform them that you first established contact through your piece of string with a Being that claimed to be a Satanic Demon, and you have no way of actually knowing that this "Angel" of yours who communicates with you through the exact same method is not in fact the same Being.

And yes, I do capitalize the "B" in "Being", just as I also capitalize the "H" in Human.

And I still stand by my statement that what you are doing is wrong. I am just a Human Being and so am capale of making the same mistakes as any other Human, and so if I give advice to someone I may be giving them a bum steer. The thing is, whoever I advise is free to take or leave my advice with the knowledge that I am only another Human like themselves.

You on the other hand, come here with your mouth full of "What my Angel has told me", which would seem to give your words the authority of God Himself, and considering the manner in which you have obtained this "Wisdom" of youres, I do think it's wrong.

Youi are misleading vulnerable people with "Information" that you obtain through a piece of string and then presnt here as having come from one of God's Holy Angels.

It would be a lot more ethical if you were to tell people "What my Pendulum told me", although even that would not be entirely true, as your Pendulum does not in fact "tell you" anything.

What happens is that you ask a yes/no question, and then see if your string moves one way for "yes" or the other way for "no".

And one last thing... I think it odd that your "Angel" didn't recognize Succubussessuck as someone that you tried and failed to help (although you falsely claimed success) when I referred him to you about a year ago in the vain hope that there might actually be something valid to this thing you have with your piece of string. You would think that if you really were in contact with an Angel, he would have told you, "Oh, we know this guy".

I guess that's more than you can expect from a piece of string.

I agree with much of the comments by Jitow.

There is no indication this Metron isn't the same demon he summoned by a satanic ritual but then rejected.

I was told he could expell my spiritual mate a couple years ago- even against my wishes if he wanted by the force of his powerful Djinn sisters guided by (I assume the same) Metron. When his efforts didn't work he suggested to solicit "Dark forces" of which I rejected and called it quits. I didn't want anything to do with some evil malevolant "thing" which I beleived his offer to be.

I consider it fundamentally wrong to pick and choose certain Biblical and religious phrases after professing disbelief in the same things, to obtain spiritual guidance from the point of a pendulum from an unknown spirit and project it all as a sort of supreme pseudo-Christian type spiritual advisor.

For example:

"If you are not included within the ranks of those who heed my words, so be it."

Guided by a pendulum and a (Likely) angry demon.

He has already professed things which are not true about other things and people here. I personally don't recognize any authority in it.

I've learned not to follow anyone who professes superior knowledge of the spirit world, and a conduit to God himslef.

Hoochler, I trust you've found peace in what ever or who ever you're following and your personal beliefs today. I will keep you in my prayers that you find a solid foundation.

scrapmetalkitten: I know your intentions are good. But I've been through hell. So what if I drink a little too much. I'm just trying to get through the day until I can get rid of this demon.

Jitow, you are an obvious follower of God. I do not wish to pick apart your beliefs, especially in public. I have been warned by my angel that to do so may confuse those who are already on a path to God by confusing them and leading them from the good path that they are already on. For the record, I have been told by my angel that if someone takes the Bible as a whole and lives by its wisdom (within the context from which it was written), although it is not 100% accurate, that such a person would have a good relationship with God in this life and go to "heaven" when they die. What more can someone ask for from a religion?

I have no desire to start a new religion, we have plenty of those on Earth here already. The Bible itself even acknowledges that the human race does not have a good understanding of the spirit world.

1 Corinthians 13:12 (Amplified Bible)
"12For now we are looking in a mirror that gives only a dim (blurred) reflection [of reality as [a]in a riddle or enigma], but then [when perfection comes] we shall see in reality and face to face! Now I know in part (imperfectly), but then I shall know and understand [b]fully and clearly, even in the same manner as I have been [c]fully and clearly known and understood [[d]by God]."

Also surmised as through a glass darkly.

I do not have all the answers either my friend, I am simply sharing what I have been told by my angel and what I understand of demons. I am not trying to start a religion, just to dissuade others from trucking with demons. I would love it if everyone embraced all of the Bible and lived by it. I believe that belief in Jesus is like a DNS class C alias to God (if that makes sense, all prayers to Jesus automatically route to God).

It is counter productive for us to publicly dispute this matter. If you would like, you can e-mail me and we can discuss this privately. I respect that you do not subscribe to my beliefs about Jesus. You can join my mom in praying for me if that will make you feel better.:-)

I can say that by me listening to Metatron, I have grown MUCH closer to God and that I have had supernatural encounters with an overwhelmingly Holy presence. Satan can impersonate an angel (especially if he is not challenged, which I ALWAYS do), but I believe it to be beyond his power to impersonate an overwhelmingly Holy Creator.

Please e-mail me if you wish to continue this conversation. Please know that I have no desire to "convert" you to anything and I that value your concern.

Hold on, should have done some research here before I posted. I still standy by what I said in my earlier post. I do not however have the same spiritual beliefs that Hoochler has. I want to make that very clear. Christ is the living Son of God and there is more historical fact and proof in that statement than anyone needs to have to believe in Him. Hoochler my friend I am not going to come out and say that you are wrong but I do have a couple of questions for you. Why would an angel of the Most High God come to you and tell you anything? The Bible is God's instruction book for His children and not only does it make the plan of salvation clear to anyone, it gives us all everything that we need to live a Godly and Christ like life. I have seen this name before that you say is an angel and it may be telling you the truth but I do not think that its current address is from Heaven. These beings have the power to pull any sort of wool over your eyes as they want including beings of light and not darkness. You must test these spirits. All Angels in Heaven are under God's control, you cannot invite one to taalk to you. Are you trying to say that God instructed His Angel to come to you just so you would be closer to Him. You must be some special dude. What is it about you that enables you to bypass the cleansing blood of Jesus' sacrifice in order to reach God the Father. What was the payment for your sins, because we all know that God will not look upon sin? How have you been able to pay for the remission of your sin so that God could look upon you let alone answer any prayer that you might speak? Unless you are of Jewish descent, you may want to spend more time in the Scriptures and start out with the last couple of verses from Revelation. I am very afraid for you my friend. Without Jesus, God would still be the God of the Jews. Jesus was God's plan so that the rest of us could be His children. If you do not know the Son then you cannot know the One who sent Him.

First of all, no matter what anyone says on here, substance abuse is never healthy in any situation. Get your life in order. Evil and negativity feeds on chaos. You need to take care of your body, so your body can take care of you. Keep seeking medical attention, and also at the same time seek spiritual attention as well. It may take awhile before you find the right combination, but don't give up. Try to keep a low stress life as much as possible, and think positive. I know some of this stuff may sound cliche but it really can help. I think it is fair to listen to everyone's opinions on here and from other outside sources and seek the remedies that you feel will most suit you. No one can fix your life, including spiritual attack. You must make the effort to find a solution. Sorry for the long post. Please take care of yourself.

God bless you Hoochler. People need correct information when they come here for help. Many people come to this site for help, not for the entertainment of others. Some people are directly attacked by evil and some are used by evil as advocates for evil and they don't even know it. If you think that you have a good relationship with one of these things it is only because they have found some way to use you like your willingness to come on a site like and say "Oh yes, these things are great if managed properly", not many people would admit it. Guess what? You will pay the piper and your torment is coming. I hate it for you, I do not wish it upon you, but when it is through with you the price must be paid. The only other way that this price can be paid is through the sacrifice that Christ Jesus made on the cross, that is it.

Succubussed, this isn't your demon forum where you can muzzle a dissenting voice with the wave of your magic admin wand.

Instead of trying to "help" most people (not all, you thankfully discourage young people) that post about these types of sex demon experiences on YGS by encouraging them to engage in long term relationships with these beings, I suggest you redirect your misguided efforts into understanding the true nature behind these sex spirits. It is easy to say to me "you are wrong" all the while you are in a multi-years long relationship neck deep with one of the beings that you by your own admission understand very little about the true nature of.

I have painstakingly come up with a model of these spirits that fits all of the data points I have on them (including those I got from you and others on your pro demon forum) and put a brief synopsis of this model in my YGS profile.

Where is your model that explains the nature behind what these beings are? What is wrong with me steering others away from spirits that you, by your own admission, do not understand much about the true nature of? Sure, you know a lot of ins and outs of how to have sex with these spirits and to get them to be more agreeable with a person (i.e. Victim), but what do you honestly know about the true intentions of these sex spirits and any grand purpose they may have? Nothing? That's what I thought.

Despite your lack of understanding of these spirits, you capitalize the B in "being" when you describe them as "Beings". To me this implies you are putting these spirits above humans in stature simply because they are more spiritually powerful than us humans and have access to information (that they VERY sparingly part with) that we do not. To me, this is folly of epic proportions.

My family came under direct and obvious spiritual attack a year or so ago because of my open criticism of these demons on YGS. That situation has thankfully been resolved and now I fully intend on voicing my dissent against these demons to all who will listen. If you are not included within the ranks of those who heed my words, so be it. At least you won't have to say later that you weren't warned.

I can tell you from personal experience that Satan is real and that he has legions of helpers of various kinds. The concept of him being a guy with horns and a pitchfork may be overly simplistic, just as the image of God sitting on a throne in a robe may be overly simplistic for God, but I assure you from personal experience that both of these entities (and their helpers) are very real and that they are fighting a war of influence over our human hearts and minds as a big part of that battle. You don't need to trust me on this though, in time it will be made clear to you all by itself.

I will end this post with a quote from yourself which I think applies fully to you.

"What you are doing is wrong."

Hoochler, you already had a go with this Succubussessucks' Sex Being, and despite your assurances that your "Angel" had taken care of it and rid him of the Demon, the OP is still plagued by the Being.

Maybe you should think about what it means when you are told something by this "Angel" of yours that proves to be false.

Maybe you should back off and stop misdirecting vulnerable people with your false ideas.

What you are doing is wrong.

Hello, I am sorry you are having this trouble with this sex demon. I encourage you to look at what I have written about sex demons in my YGS profile by clicking on my name at the beginning of this comment.

If, after reading there what is said about sex demons you would like to talk about this further, please write to me at the e-mail address in my profile and we can go from there.

This can be made to stop if that is truly your desire.

It seems to me that you have a succubus. A succubus is a female sex demon that will have sex with you until you are dead or until she is bored with you then then kill you. Look up Succubus and try to find a solution to the problem.