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ICanHandleIt (guest)
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13 years ago (2011-04-21)
He obviously cares for you to go against some ends as an angel to protect you. Angels hardly physically protect people, just spiritually. It won't give his name, because its afraid that you will slip the name to a wiccan. If one of them favored your guardian, they would need his name to bind him to their will. Just be friends with him.
BoredOne (10 posts)
 
13 years ago (2011-04-09)
A demonic angel is something that I have trouble understanding, but if it means you know harm then it means you no harm, But angels and demons alike can go overboard so it being protective is no surprise, though my suggetion is to think of what you really want the first answer to the question "Do I want this"
Think on that.
cosmogal926 (9 stories) (1223 posts)
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13 years ago (2011-03-14)
Standing 'O' Javelina 😁 (clapping...whistle...thumbs up) I have to agree with you 110% and I could not have said it better myself. ❤ Reading that just gave me a happy joy joy feeling. 😊
BadJuuJuu (guest)
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13 years ago (2011-03-14)
Well said Javelina. Actions have a bigger impact than words ever will. Although the internet limits our actions to words, our character still shows through in the words we choose. I think you just showed true Christian character. ❤
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
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13 years ago (2011-03-14)
[at] Jitow,
You know, I don't really care what anyone else has to say about this or you for that matter, But I'm going to say my peace to you.
From the time of my birth I've always known where I stood with God. I've never felt that I had to be reminded by the 'man on the street' because I grew up in the church. I went to Catholic school in my younger years and public school from the age of 9 and up. Going to public school wasn't really much different at all. No more uniforms was all I cared about.
I was Baptised at 3 weeks old, just like the rest of my 7 sisters and brother. Nothing about that experience has ever made me feel it was my job to tell others what God's words meant to them or me. Those things are between me and God and no one else. That may sound alien to your ears, and that's alright, I'm not going to push my way of thinking onto you. You see, I'm one of those people that has always known God.
You, on the other hand sound as if this knowledge came to you later on in life. You weren't raised in the church from the moment of birth were you? If you were, I'd be quite surprised. You're wearing your faith on your sleeve and are carrying it like a burden. You have nothing to prove here Jitow, do yourself and everyone else a favor and just unclench a little. You sound very wound up a lot of the time and that's not good. You might try relaxing your shoulders every now and then. Let your arms hang loosely at your sides and just breathe a long, slow, deep cleansing breath, in through the nose and out through the mouth. Then sit in a relaxed position and listen to your heart beat for a bit, just listen. That's all.
That's God to me. He gave me life just like He gave you life. He gave us all free will. Honor what you were given and don't worry about the rest. He does that, that's His job. Everything else is just another person's interpretation of what they think you should do. Don't be like those who thought so much of themselves that they felt it was their duty to tell you what God wanted. That's arrogant and rude. And it causes more to turn away than follow. Don't be that person.
Jitow (362 posts)
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13 years ago (2011-03-13)
Please, someone has got me all wrong. I am not here to argue either and not sure that I ever said that I was right. I believe in the Word of God and I believe that it is complete and perfect and I know that everything we discuss here is addressed in God's word and that His word is for everyone. So I am probably never right, but when it is from God's word He is never wrong. I am not forcing anything on anyone and not making claims or boasting on my own behalf but I am boasting of the power of God through Christ Jesus to handle this poster's problem and every other problem people have that come here for help. I am nothing without Him and I am certainly not ashamed to be His and all the glory goes to Him. God created us with a Christ sized hole in our souls and no matter what we try to fill it with it never completely fulfills that inherent need for Him. We are all seeking something, once you realize that He created us to seek Him and He said "seek and ye shall find" only then will that longing of something missing be quenched. That same hole in your soul can be filled with pain and sorrow and evil spirits. Kick them all out and let God fill you with His Holy Spirit and you won 'thave to worry about all of this crap the world hands out.
HazMan_III (4 stories) (91 posts)
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13 years ago (2011-02-06)
I think an apology is in order here. I read your last comment, Frost, and WhiteBuffalo's, and it made me realize that I'd strayed from my original intent when I decided to comment on your story. I'm sorry that I held the debate club on your page, it was completely out of line.

I understand that I've probably come off as confrontational and perhaps a bit too vocal. It's difficult for me to keep in line sometimes, especially when it comes to these sorts of things. I do understand that every individual has their own beliefs, and I will do my very best to respect that in the future, so please bear with me.

In respect to what you should do, I agree with WhiteBuffalo. Do what you need to; do as much research and reflecting as possible, the answers will come to you.

Again, I offer my sincerest apologies, and I wish you the best of luck.
whitebuffalo (guest)
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13 years ago (2011-02-06)
Frost.
I feel for you, Buddy, I really do.
For some reason I feel the urge to caution you to look into the "help" you receive. Do your own research (not just on THIS site, through e-mail fed answers, through what someone TOLD you their Guide says, either. LOOK INTO IT). Make SURE you are comfortable with it.
From what I read in your response just down there, you are not quite so comfortable, are you?
I understand the rant about the religious debate. I have OFTEN read through a response and wanted to flame someone back, but the thing is, each person comes here with their own understanding of what they feel works. Or perhaps it worked for them in the past.
Or...maybe they just watched a religious show that stated that was the ONLY way to do things.
I am not here to talk about that. Your wishes are clear, there should be NO religious debate on YOUR page. As someone else sorta pointed out rather recently, (but I must add to) religion is NOT only God, though. It is ALL deities.
ALL OF THEM.
As amethist also pointed out, NO ONE can tell you that they 100% KNOW about these types of beings. NO ONE.
Even those who believe they have died, and perhaps walked in that Light, can not tell you they KNOW.
They CAN tell you they have an "idea".
Just, please use caution. I know when I get freaked, I grab at just about anything that looks like it could be a life line, and quite frankly, sometimes it can be WAY OFF and tied to a cinder block being tossed into the deepest past of the ocean.
I encourage you to look INSIDE yourself, and find the Truth. YOUR Guide (whether you like it or not) will NOT E-V-E-R let you down.
In deepest concern~ Thank you.
Frost13 (1 stories) (8 posts)
 
13 years ago (2011-02-05)
thank you for all of your post and thank you ZiShu for helping in private. Now as far as a religous debate don't want it, and don't need it. I just wanted advice nothing more I have been busy lately trying to deal with this. As far as you that say I'm lying keep beliving that cause I'm not here to try to convince you I'm telling the truth. That's all I have to say I will be putting up another story soon.
Trix (14 stories) (407 posts)
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13 years ago (2011-02-04)
Pjod...I'm hundred percent with you on this one... You couldn't have said it better. Trix.
Pjod (3 stories) (978 posts)
+3
13 years ago (2011-02-03)
Run Jimmy...
Run!
Tee, I think you need help. Not sure what kind...but, something.
amethist (10 posts)
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13 years ago (2011-02-02)
Sorry to say but this sounds either very made up or like you need psychiatric help. You come looking for "advice" but when its given you come up with an excuse not to take it. And as for the religious debate going on... Its rediculous. I don't know how any person can claim to know anything "for a fact" reguarding "angels" and "demons." These are simply names placed to things we can't ever fully understand. And you will never understand anything by trying to imposed your views on others.
EpicAwsomeness (2 posts)
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13 years ago (2011-02-01)
You shouldnt trust it! What if that's just another deamon ready to kill all those around you? They say they will protect you but then they don't want anyone you love near you you shoulnt trust it at all! Ignore it and don't let it control you
Gizmo (1 stories) (22 posts)
 
13 years ago (2011-02-01)
Waow very interesting Frost13 just be glad that you have something looking after you... Keep us updated with anything that happens 😊
Aya-Love-Carrots (150 posts)
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13 years ago (2011-02-01)
1.) Since the author of this story is confuse and not so sure what he wanted to do about this incident, I would take this time to say that, I love the way you write (you have a way with words)... Take my advice and be a writer dude! LOL *thumbs up* [at] Hazman_III
2.) Trix, that was rude! You shouldnt say something like "how old are you? And maybe you should see your parents" some people might be offended, hehe...
3.) Rashida had a point, we need more information about this one, and please tell us what you want to do?
4.) I'm getting annoying so I just better wait for some update

Do take care, and frost13 don't do anything weird for a while...
Jikno (3 stories) (8 posts)
 
13 years ago (2011-02-01)
Frost... Dude I believe you. Who are we to doubt what you really have been going through. We don't live your life so we can't say if its real or fake... We just cant.

Now people you all say you believe in God but yet ya'll doubt what is even real or not? Dont you know nothing is too impossible when it comes to the whole God and Satan.
Ive read a lot of stories and I believe them all because if I can go through weird and unexplainable stuff than I know these people have too.

Now back to frost... Mane my personal opinion leave him alone. Yea he protected you but having horns and a halo jus screams BAD SIGN! I really would like to talk to you one on one just shoot me a message
LouSlips (10 stories) (979 posts)
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13 years ago (2011-02-01)
Hazman III,
The greatest trick the devil ever played was to make us believe he is not real.
Regardless of your differences with Jitow, if you are both here to help, then the both of you should concentrate on addressing the author instead of each other. If you both present options, Frost will be able to choose from the input provided... If one way does not work, the other method can be tried next. We all should reserve the right to get smarter with every opportunity; and get over ourselves a bit. All of us who have found our way out of our own personal darkness, think we know what is right for everyone, when more than likely, the way we chose only served our own situation. I believe God has provided us all with a path... Opening our eyes and following it is up to us... And the more info we can obtain, the better our chances. So instead of telling you I am right and you are not; I'll stick with humility now and eternal life later.

Bless,
Lou
Trix (14 stories) (407 posts)
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13 years ago (2011-02-01)
Hi Frost13. Sorry... I find it hard to believe your story. How old are you? I feel you should talk to your parents about what's happening to you. They might get you proper help. Sorry I don't want to be rude here, but your story is way out of line for me. It's got an abnormal halo with spikes and horns, and small flame in between them. He speaks through you only in the presence of certain objects and people- which people and what kind of objects? How many times did you almost die? The part that states it is not the right time to reveal certain information, and also its name. No I'm very sorry but I don't see a true story here at all. It sounds like a movie for me or imaginary friend? Trix 😕
HazMan_III (4 stories) (91 posts)
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13 years ago (2011-02-01)
Jitow, I honestly believe that somewhere deep inside you lies the desire to help others. I think that you see people who are in trouble, and you feel that the solution to their problems is in your hands and that it is your duty to share it with them so that you may ease their suffering. That is commendable.

However, I feel as though you're more concerned with being right, with gathering as much information as possible to ensure that people see things the way you do and that they turn their eyes away from anything else. You admitted that you read every single post on this site to verify something. That something was that Christianity was the answer in every case, was it not? I've been led to believe that. You've mentioned that you've done enough research to prove that it was the only lasting solution to demonic disturbances.

Now, it really is a beautiful thing when someone's faith saves their life. That is, when it leads them away from the negativity they've wallowed in for so long. It's understandable that one would want to share something like this with others. But that doesn't justify picking on the beliefs of others.

Let me try to get the rest of my point across without making you feel like I'm targeting your faith. People who come from broken homes can experience a number of psychological problems. It is a direct result of what they've been exposed to. Like soldiers with PTSD. It's not that all that negativity caused demons to gather and then possess that person to act out. It is for this reason that I will tell you that banishing demons in the name of God and Christ does not always work. And it is true. Many times the person who is possessed will only be at peace in death. And as I've said before, they don't die because demons kill them. They die of neglect.

Although this world is filled with things that go unseen and that may influence our lives, it is not fair to pin our actions on any beings. You cannot blame Lucifer or Satan or Devils for all the wrong in this world. People are capable of evil, and people do evil things. What Satan is to you is a reflection of your actions. He's a personification of the evil that humanity has committed. He's a monument to humanity's unwillingness to accept responsibility for what it has done. If you are in the darkness, it is not because any demon or devil has placed you there. It's because you chose to go.
Jitow (362 posts)
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13 years ago (2011-01-31)
OK, I do not come on here anymore because I am intrigued or obsessed with the paranormal. I probably was for a good while. Then I started to realize that there were people out there truly hurting and being tormented. My challenge was to read all the post on this wenbite, I have and you have to be slightly obsessed to do that. Once you do you start to see patterns and patterns confirm themselves. Then you start to research outside of the websites for verification. The word familiar is used any several different context, like a familiar spirit. The familiar that I am talking about is a low level demonic spirit that does not have the power to bring on a full frontal assault. They may be with a person from birth. They sit quietly, never being noticed as they observe every small nuance of a person's life in order to use it against them. If you want to know more about a familiar get the book Hostage of the Devil, there is a perfect case study in there of how they get into someones life. Usually someone who is timid, comes from a broken home or a home that has a good deal of unrest and no normal structure. They cannot read minds, they do not know what you are thinking. They are gamblers and they play the odds when it comes to predictions or either they make a prediction and then make it come true. They study the victom's nature and usually know through this how that person will react to certain situations. They do set up situations to make it appear that they have saved the victoms life as I said to make them them feel that they owe it a great debt of of gratitude. I would be willing to bet that the victom gets reminded from time to time what this thing has done for them. I only come here now and post to help people in need. To help the ones that are really in need and cut through all the conjecture, speculation and hoo doo so that they can get the help that they need whether they realize it yet or not. At least they have heard it. I don't mid reading other's hopes and dreams and wishes but there comes a time to drop all that and look at things relistically. When someone post on here and they are really hurting and in trouble, there is no time for mubo jumbo and hocus pocus. It is time to get down to the hard facts. I do not mean to down anyone else's religion or belief but I have been at this for a long time and I have only seen One that can fix this trouble permanently. The Truth does hurt sometimes and it often offends but many of you will lay down in your warm little bed and not have a second thought of that person that needs help and you were just on line saying, maybe if you burn some sage or stand up to this thing and demand that it leave your space, bla, bla, bla. That is rediculous. In the meantime that person that is in trouble is still in trouble.
redphx (4 stories) (827 posts)
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13 years ago (2011-01-31)
I would be very cautious with this one. I am one to side with demons more often than not but any entity that doesn't share who they are with you is something to watch out for. Secrets are usually not a good indicator of something that is has good intentions.

I would "test" him. Now if he says that he is there to help you and not harm you. Then if you don't do what he says he should be patient with you and not try to harm you or punish you. A helping entity is not going to try to inflict harm. If it were me I would provoke the entity to determine where his loyalty lies. BUt you must be careful as he will know your thoughts ahead of time.

Demons and angels are very sneaky and most of the time they are out for their own benefit. They will try to win your trust. I have never taken what an entity said demon or otherwise to heart. All the things they say are in their opinion. Take everything that this things with a grain of salt. In the end it is your opinion on what to believe. It is just like speaking to another human. Do you trust everyone right off the bat? Even people who have helped you can eventually harm you.

You may have yourself one of the few demons who are helpful. Most are tricksters. They all have a great sense of humor that is a little off-putting to some. They like to scare. But no matter what entity you are dealing with just take caution.

Personally I wouldn't let the thing talk through me. That is just too close for comfort to full control of my body.
shadowspirit (4 stories) (122 posts)
 
13 years ago (2011-01-31)
hi

Just a quick question, are you male or female frost? As depending on your gender will depend on your demon (there are several types of demon, the one you describe sounds like what a typical incubus looks like)
Rashidah (guest)
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13 years ago (2011-01-31)
Ok time to say something here since I have had exepriences with demons and angels. And I do not care if I get voted down for this.

(1) A demon will NOT protect you. If you mean that this being is an angel and some how you are confused between what angels and demons are, I will understand.

(2) What exactly did it protect you from? How exactly did it save your life from death multiple times? What possible situations can you be in for you to be in constant danger more than anyone else? This sounds a bit extreme and unrealistic to me. Or is it that you find the need to exaggerate your claims?

(3) So he has wings eh? In all my experiences with spiritual beings, I am yet to see them with wings. Wings are artistic representation of beings that can fly. In the astral world, beings DO NOT need wings to fly.

(4) I am yet to see beings with halos also. This is also an artistic way of drawing beings that give off intense auras. And you say the halo was black too? That is also new to me. If the being gives out a black aura then I will run to the hills if I were you
😐

And to wrap this long and dreary post up. If the being is that close and so protective of you, he can at least reveal his name to you. After all, he did saved your life about a hundred times right?
ZiShu (281 posts)
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13 years ago (2011-01-31)
jinks... What the heck, why are you on a site like this if you are going to go around saying this or that doesn't exist

Hazman_III there are actually different types of Fallen Angels. A Devil is a Fallen Angel who was converted into a demon in Hell.

Now from speaking with Frost, and this "Demon Angel" of his, I can understand why some have kept their distance. I can tell you all that he is a real being. However if anything this being is a Fallen Angel, not a demon at all. He left Heaven because he did not want to be under a master. He actually cares for this boy depending on it's mood. I can say I do not like his attitude of power. "You would want me as an ally rather than a enemy" deal can be somewhat threatening. He is not on Satan's side either. He actually protects Frost from demons. I am currently trying to find Frost's Guardian Angel however things seem difficult because of this Fallen Guardian. Now I do not like that he uses Frost's body to speak to me. Possession does not give good impressions...
LouSlips (10 stories) (979 posts)
+1
13 years ago (2011-01-31)
Jitow,
He never promised that the cross would not get heavy...

Frost...demons are the lowest of the low. It doesn't want you to know its name because once it reveals this information, you will know its intentions.

God IS the way.

Lou
snowhite (203 posts)
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13 years ago (2011-01-30)
A demon used to be an angel but change to be evil since it has free will and it is willing to follow Satan. There is nothing in between angels and demon. So I personally think it is a demon. He will use you and I am sure you can find out later.
KairrionMah (8 posts)
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13 years ago (2011-01-30)
I'm not going to argue, agree or disagree with other people. All I'm going to do is post my opinion, and I'd appreciate it if you leave it at that.

Now, in my opinion, there may be a number of reasons for him not to give out his name. I will not explain to all of you why because you'll just argue with me. He has reasons which are understandable. I do not know the situation well, but he does sound genuinly friendly. About your friends, perhaps they just got scared because he's so strong. Or perhaps they had ill intent towards you in the first place. Not every person you meet will be good and friendly. The same with everyone else. I think you should listen to what he has to say, but keep an eye out for things you don't want to. Never be pressured into doing what you don't want.

If you want more of my opinion, you can contact me.
rachie (1 stories) (65 posts)
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13 years ago (2011-01-30)
Again, JITOW, stop please. These comments completely differ from the author's need for help in this potentially harmful situation. If you have something to suggest, then suggest it in the way you have previously been suggested to suggest it. I know hazmaniii, badjuujuu, myself and I am sure many more have asked and given you examples on ways to word your comments. Why did you feel the need to come into a completely different story and rip hazman a new one? It doesn't seem to nice or mature to me. Not very Christian either I will admit.

For the author, this seems very serious, and if I may be so bold as to request finding someone to help you properly get rid of it. What ever title and representation of help you prefer. They all do the same in the same name.
HazMan_III (4 stories) (91 posts)
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13 years ago (2011-01-30)
Jinks, let's not get into that again. Please offer suggestions and help, not reasons why this is bedlam and you're the only sane person among us. If you feel that perhaps a person might do best to seek out psychiatric attention rather than help from their personal faith or your own experience, then express that in a more acceptable manner. Don't write everyone off as wrong and deluded simply because you disagree with them.
lizziek80 (4 stories) (7 posts)
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13 years ago (2011-01-30)
The only thing that I can say is that if the demon guardian doesn't want to give you his or her name is because once you know their name, you can perform an exorcism or even a ritual to get rid of him or her. Most of the time you would need their name for that. For some reason it's there and the way you describe him is pretty scary. All I can say is be careful and pray to God and hopefully he can help your situation. 😊
zzsgranny (18 stories) (3329 posts) mod
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13 years ago (2011-01-30)
Frost: I know this is personal, but how many times have you been "close to dying", and what were the circumstances?...

Also, this post from you:

"thanks for all your post but he says that you know nothing about him or what he wants and hes here to help save me"

Completely contradicts the original account... Do you want help or not?...Are you here seeking knowledge and a possible solution, or are you here to stir the pot?...

Even though we seem to have a religious debate going on in this thread (again!), none of these posters have told you that this entity is GOOD for you... Sorry if that's not what you want to hear...

Now, you have been presented with two different methods of expelling this being from your life...You've been given opinions about the nature of said being, none of them positive...It's up to you... Take what you feel will help you, if that is indeed what you want, and go from there...
cassie_n41 (1 posts)
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13 years ago (2011-01-30)
I just recently stumbled on this site and this is going to be my first post. The first thing that caught my attention is that it wouldn't give you its name yet. It is understandable because since time immemorial, it is believed that knowing one's true name will give the one who knows it power over that person, binding the latter to the former indefinitely. Ancient Egyptians have two names; the given/public name and the hidden/true name known only to him and the person that gave it to him. You call him demon guardian so that would be his public name of sorts. Keeping its name from you means that it is still free to do as it wishes and at the moment it is the entity's choice to look over you as a protector of sorts until it decides to move on to "greener pastures". For now I think it means well but please thread carefully whenever you're around him as there is nothing that could stop it from doing you harm since you are still not clear of its intentions. I really do find this fascinating. I do not mean to scare you but that is how I see it. And if the time comes that it finally decides to give you its name only then can you be 100% sure that you're safe with him.
intrigued09 (6 posts)
 
13 years ago (2011-01-30)
Jitow I'm knew to this site and contrary to only being 18 I have actually read many different stories and facts regarding paranormal experiences and am utterly intrigued by the whole thing to the extent that I am a full believer in other entities existing although I have to agree with Haz Man the only being called a familiar I have ever heard of is linked mainly to witches and witch craft and is usually an animal of some kind which looks over someone and protects them, although they usually only stay until the person they are protecting is no longer vulnerable. I don't want to start an argument I just wanted to point out that people will have heard of different things and this does not mean that either is wrong.
HazMan_III (4 stories) (91 posts)
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13 years ago (2011-01-30)
I'm not being contrary simply for the sake of being contrary. Everything I say, I say because I know it to be the truth. It's what's real and what has worked for ME. I don't target the beliefs of anyone simply out of whim. I retaliate. And if you please, YOU can go back and you will see that I'm defending what I think is right.

I'll tell you what I believe is wrong. I believe that it is wrong to preach your beliefs as the singular truths of the universe and discredit all others because they either fail to coincide with your own or because they challenge them.

Now let me make something very clear to you. I have NO religion. I do NOT attend mass every Sunday, and I do not read the Bible. I DO believe in God. I have felt His presence, and I know He is good. He and I are on good terms, and I can assure you that if I have a seat saved for me in hell, it's where I will serve out justice to those who cast down their brothers and sisters to carry out their self righteous means.

I do NOT step on the beliefs of others because I don't share their beliefs. I speak out when overly pious and self righteous people place themselves and their beliefs on a pretty little pedestal in the sky and shoot anyone who isn't of their faith down.

And I do give out advice. Suggestions. Not orders. So feel free to preach, but I'm going to keep doing what I feel I need to do.
Jitow (362 posts)
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13 years ago (2011-01-30)
Hazmat, I have seen several of your post here lately and from what I can tell, your only motivation is to be contrary to anything anyone else says. If what we discuss here is not weird or faar out enough for you then there are other websites to go to. You make your statement as if they are fact when most if not all are just speculation. You think what you want to think and I will believe what I want to believe. To pu this one to bed I will confidently say this, there is nothing outside of my God's power. He created angels and He created man including you I guess. So anything that you say is outside of my belief or outside of my God is speculation and your opinion. So far I do not see where anyone has personally sought out your opinion. So unless you have something that will help this person, your opinion is not needed. I challenge you to read every demonic encounter in the archives of this site and any other like and you will see that only those demonically attacked that chose to seek Christ were able to gain any long term solutions. Before you speculate again, read them, I have, nothing but the name of Jesus and belief in Jesus has done it. I know the proof is here, out of all the post here and other larger ghost sites. There is no proven long term solution but Jesus Christ. Do your research and document the cases that were permanantly successful with any other religion or process and I will back off what I say. But when I know what I know and the proof is published out there for everyone to see, I and probably we want to see the proof of this psyco-spiritual bable that you are writing. You know that there is a special place in hell for those that lead others away from the truth and for those who are stumbling blocks for those seeking the truth. Go find you facts, go find your cases where other religions, gods, or cults could permanantly get rid of demonic spirits. As for familiars, there are obviously 2 different kinds because your has nothing to do the the familiar I have stusied and I have seen quite a few cases. They are low level evil spirits that do not have the power to possess someone head on. They must sit and observee the victom for years before they make their prescence known. They are advized by the higher rank but they are on their own unles they get challenged or excosized. I am not even going to waste my time writing again. It is posted in multple cases here and based on what others have written over the years to the theory I would say you are greatly in the minority here and most likely wrong. It would be very interesting if you told us where you received all this so called knowledge cause it sounds like a hodge podge of different beliefs which is what satans wants all to belief, he want the message diluted. You may be satisfied with your diluted beliefs but don't try and pass it off on others as legitimate.
Frost13 (1 stories) (8 posts)
 
13 years ago (2011-01-30)
if anyone wants to speak to me privatly on this they are welcome to send me an email
Frost13 (1 stories) (8 posts)
 
13 years ago (2011-01-29)
i can see him physically and hear him physically as well, and some pictures I have with some friends you can see a shadow or something with me. I'm not making this up believe me or not I have come for help nothing more
HazMan_III (4 stories) (91 posts)
 
13 years ago (2011-01-29)
All fallen angels are not devils. I think, and this is assuming you even know about them, that you mean the Goetic spirits. They're not inherently evil. They're capable of good or evil, just like you and I.

I already described what guardian angels are like, and this fellow doesn't fit the bill. I get the feeling that perhaps you're making this up Frost. Personally, I'd like to have a one on one conversation with this so called guardian angel. Perhaps debunk this whole thing. I'm not thoroughly convinced that he is who you say he is.
ZiShu (281 posts)
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13 years ago (2011-01-29)
Hmm I still wonder, if you can see and hear him physically, or with your mind? If he says God does not define him, that is not good.
Everyone has a Guardian Angel, but they will never say anything like that.
You have a true Guardian Angel, this Devil is just someone that is attached to you for some reason, but I'm sure your Guardian Angel can tell you why. Just send me an email that's in my profile.
Frost13 (1 stories) (8 posts)
 
13 years ago (2011-01-29)
ok well he says god does not define him and if you can find away for me to send you a message that will have my email in it that will be completly fine
ZiShu (281 posts)
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13 years ago (2011-01-29)
hmmm there are ways to test him to see if he really is your Guardian Angel from God
Can you actually see and hear him physically? Or is this within your mind?
I have spoke to Angels before, and I know many that can see and speak to them as well
I'd like to speak to you more of this through a messenger or email if possible since itd be faster, I will keep everyone else here updated if needed
Frost13 (1 stories) (8 posts)
 
13 years ago (2011-01-29)
his name is very complicated to say its like in latin or so and, he says only his attentions are good he is my guardian angel is what he is saying.
ZiShu (281 posts)
 
13 years ago (2011-01-29)
This seems to be a Devil (Fallen Angel demon).
He may be a neutral being, on no one side but his own. However he has shown some red signs already. He refuses to give out his name and you have said some of your friends never spoke to you again. It seems something about you gets him attached to you. I've known many who've had such things happen to them. I'd personally have to check on this Devil myself if I'm to know his true intentions. If you trust him but not to be around others, then that means you don't trust him fully. You have to speak with him more about his actions, but in doing so may grow more unwanted connection.
HazMan_III (4 stories) (91 posts)
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13 years ago (2011-01-29)
Let me just say this: when angels speak to you, they only say positive things. Their message will have a general meaning when taken out of context. They don't tell people that they need to help them save the world, or paint other grandiose pictures.

I'm starting to think that perhaps you should seek psychiatric help. Only a suggestion. And try to listen to your own sense of right and wrong, not just what this being tells you.
Frost13 (1 stories) (8 posts)
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13 years ago (2011-01-29)
thanks for all your post but he says that you know nothing about him or what he wants and hes here to help save me
HazMan_III (4 stories) (91 posts)
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13 years ago (2011-01-29)
Jitow... Familiars are non-human beings who we share an empathetic bond with. You can think of them as pets, as most are animals. They serve as a partner, guardian, or teacher in magick. Familiars are not out to hurt us.

It is not fair to discredit methods of exorcising spirits that are outside of the Christian belief. Smudging and asperging have been around since before the rise of Christianity and they worked in ancient times as they do now. Just because one does not call upon Jesus does not mean that they cannot rid themselves of any entity they don't want around them.

I'll also have you known that many exorcisms end in the death of the victim. Do you know why? Because of neglect. They die of malnutrition, not of possession.

And the aliens being fallen angels bit... That's interesting, but I think that it isn't much of a stretch to believe that somewhere in this universe, complex life forms such as us exist. There are hieroglyphics depicting tall men on strange, rocket-like vehicles, on stone tablets near pyramids and such. But... I don't want to get into that.

And angels were given the choice to follow God or not, but it's not the same for them as it is for us humans. They're supposed to be eternally decisive creatures, unlike us fickle humans. Though, let's say for argument's sake that they're allowed free will like us. By that token, Jesus' name has no more effect upon them than it would on me. Just something to think about.

In any case, Frost should do whatever he feels is right and whatever he feels comfortable doing. If he feels that Jesus can help, he should call upon him. If he feels that smudging or asperging will work best, he should do that.

Best of luck to you, Frost.
Jitow (362 posts)
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13 years ago (2011-01-29)
Sorry to post again but, you must test this spirit. If you do and it is negative, I have a friend in Raleigh that can help you through this pretty quickly. He is trained and ordained by the church (Christian church but it is not Catholic). He is gifted by God to do this and He has sent many of these things by the power and in the name of Jesus and they do not come back. On another note, on this board some and on other boards we there has been a lot of discussion lately about the link between aliens and demons or fallen angels. There are tons of eyewitness testimonis out there where calling on the name of Jesus during an alien abduction attempt, sighting or just a UFO sighting has abruptly put an end to the encounter and the people have found themselves in their beds, never left the room. Why do I mention this? The OP said that one of the first things this thing said was "I mean you no harm", it is just the exact same thng that alien abductees here during their first encounter, "I mean you no harm", bull. They hate us because God decided to make us in His own image, not them. Then He set us above them and made them look out for our safety. God gave angels free will as well and 1/3 of the angels could not take this and they left Heaven. God only created 2 intelligent species of beings, man and angel. Which do you think these things are? They are one or the other. Think of it this way, these things are intradimensional not extraterestial.
Jitow (362 posts)
 
13 years ago (2011-01-29)
From one tarheel to another, this ain't no guardian demon. It is call a "familiar" not familiar spirit but a "familiar". How do I make such a strong statement? Because it has seemingly saved your life a few times. It has not saved your live, it more likiely put you in the dangerous situations that you were in, like deathly sick, car wreck, drowning, just so it could deceive you into thinking that it saved you. Why would it do that you say? Because it wants you to think that you now owe it something, like your life. If you were to say, get out of my life and stay out, it would say wait just a dog gone minute, are you forgeting something, did I not save your life on several occasions, Blah, blah, Blah. See if it does not find a hoast to oppress or possess it must go back to hades and it is desperate and will do almost anything not to go back. They are very attentive to the laws and boundries that God gave them and one of them is you have to somehow open the door and then you have to in any kind of way ask them to stay or commit to them that they can stay. Once you do this it will take a deliverance sessio or exorcism. If you have not made any type of official committment to it, you can get rid of it. First you need to test the spirit. The way this one appears to you I would go ahead and assume that it is evil, but if yo want to test it, next time you see it or sense that it is around just say Jesus rebuke you as loud as you can, if it is evil it will leave in a flash ad not come back for aq w3hile, then you will know for sure that it is evil and consinue to rebuke it in Jesus name. If it responds like this you will also need to seek Jesus, read the Bible and ask Him to possess you with His Holy Spirit, that is the way that you assure that it does not come back. If it is some benign spirit (which I do not believe in, then you will not hurt its feelings by doing this. If anything reacts negatively to the name of Jesus, you need to get away from it. I will pray for you as well. Burning sage and pooring sea salt, blessed or not, has absolutely no lasting effect on these things and it could make them angry. If you have done this and they are angry just say Jesus rebuke you and it should send it on its way. If you have to say Jesus rebuke you everday for a long time it is still better than where this thing is going to take you if you do not get rid of it. The choice is yours.
ghost-luver101 (8 posts)
+1
13 years ago (2011-01-29)
I would tell him to tell you his name or tell him to get lost! 🤔
Because your old enough to take care of yourself! 😉
Plus you have your family to protect you.
Ghost-luver101 ❤
shadowspirit (4 stories) (122 posts)
+2
13 years ago (2011-01-29)
rachies right, if he isn't going to tell you his name then how can you trust his decisions for your future?
rachie (1 stories) (65 posts)
+2
13 years ago (2011-01-29)
this being is a guest in your life, therefore I believe you should be the one to call the shots. He won't even tell you his name and to me that is silly. Why should he have access to everything in your life and destroy your relationships and not give you a gesture about himself, where he has come from, why he comes to you. I have been a strong believer that even though someone may have done something to help you in the past but in the present or future are going to cause you harm you should cut them out like cancer. This is just my opinion and I have never experienced a demonic influence in my life like this. These are just the words I have to offer. If I am misreading anything please let me know.
HazMan_III (4 stories) (91 posts)
 
13 years ago (2011-01-29)
I know that certain entities may require a sacrifice, but many of them do not. Also, I didn't say he shouldn't try to rid himself of this entity, but I do think he should go about it with caution.

This being approached him for a reason. Let's just consider that for a moment. He wasn't invoked... At least it doesn't say so in the story. It's not one of those, "I opened the door, now I have to close it," deals. It may be more difficult than just saying, "I want you gone, so go!" All I'm asking is that extreme caution be taken when trying to banish this entity.
whitebuffalo (guest)
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13 years ago (2011-01-29)
First off, you state yourself that you have doubts.
"If in doubt, simply back out."
It has isolated you from your friends. They either stopped talking to you, or it made them crack.
Not good.
Tell him to leave, you want nothing to do with him, or anyone like him. Pack his bags, and leave them outside your door.
Thank you.
zzsgranny (18 stories) (3329 posts) mod
+3
13 years ago (2011-01-29)
HazMan: I understand the reference to magic, however, even in magic there is a "price"...Those summoned (this includes ALL dieties) are more likely to assist in your request if an offering or sacrifice is made... In this instance, the author has no idea who this "demon" is, or where they came from...So, I would venture a guess and say his appearance has nothing to do with magic, at least on the part of the O/P...Thanks for the heads up though! 😊...

I stand by my previous advice, get rid of him ASAP...
HazMan_III (4 stories) (91 posts)
 
13 years ago (2011-01-28)
Well, if you think like a ritual magician, you think demons, namely demon kings, are there to help us. The Goetia, that is. They all have specific powers... Some help you find lost objects, some help you find treasure, and others serve out justice. They can be used for good as well as bad.

I read something awhile back... I read that when the Key of Solomon was translated from the original text, the demons were given horrendous forms. This of course was in medieval times. In any case, because the methods of summoning Goetic spirits is archaic, they present themselves as they would have then. And nowadays, everyone has a certain image of these spirits, and so that's what they see.

What I'm trying to say is that demons aren't necessarily evil. It's just the way we view them. Look up the greek definition of demon, and you'll see it's quite accurate.

By the by, angels are forbidden to impose their will upon humans. If you're being possessed, and I mean possessed, not just channeling this being, it's no good.
zzsgranny (18 stories) (3329 posts) mod
+3
13 years ago (2011-01-28)
Frost: Okay. I'm no expert on demons, but I can tell you this: even though he may seem like he's protecting and guarding you, it's not for FREE... You will pay a price... Demons don't do good deeds without expecting something in return... I advise you to be rid of him ASAP...

There's a demonologist amoung us, his screen name is JimD... Hope he's reading this!...

Please be very careful! 😐
HUarmy (1 stories) (12 posts)
+1
13 years ago (2011-01-28)
That is facinating, you want to be very cautious, I had a demon pretending to be a demonic guardian just like that. Say some protective prayers or ask questions and try recording an EVP.
-Emily, GoodLuck.
shadowspirit (4 stories) (122 posts)
 
13 years ago (2011-01-28)
how long have you known him? I believe I have a succubus guardian watching over me (read my story for info) he would of hurt you by now if he was going to

Just a small tip, do not get on his bad side. You say he talks through you, I'm guessing he takes control of you in order to do this, and he may be able to do this as he likes, if you upset him he may posess you and make you do bad things and make you take the blame

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