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LouSlips (10 stories) (979 posts)
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12 years ago (2012-06-11)
OVER 20, 852 cases...Wow, does tha tmean 20, 853 or just some other random number? I am an engineer and know what a pain-staking process scientific study involves... How many hours would you expect were spent on each case? Some could likely be investigated in a day, some might take weeks... Lets say on average they took three days, and let's say on average you are ambitious enough to work six days a week. That means you are able to thoroughly investigate two cases per week. That means it would take you 10,426.5 weeks, or 200. 5 years to investigate these cases. For the sake of argument, let's pretend a case could be unbiasedly investigated by one investigator. You said you had a "team". If there are five of you, it would have still taken 40 years to do these investigations... But that cannot be the case because when Rook said he had been interested since he was seven, and he is only a young forty-five now... That he was more experienced than you? Explain.
If you are going to rely on science to define your life, learn math... Its pretty important.

Lou
dominic (guest)
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12 years ago (2012-06-11)
Adsouza, I appreciate your efforts in making me understand something. But, honestly I could not make any head or tail out of your reply... Do you speak English...! I appreciate if you do... I am a scientist from USA currently assigned on a project in India... I will be flying back in a week.

Thank you...
dominic (guest)
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12 years ago (2012-06-11)
[at] Puppy and Rook, I am not here to offend you, nor judge you... Well, I respect teenagers. You seem to be nice. Well, there will be always something to learn from those who opposes us... But who agrees will never be of any use... Research is growing because there are many who do not agree with the present... If everybody would have satisfied and pleased, then today you would have probably never been watching an LCD, or Plasma TV...

Rook, I have witnessed paranormal activities in my life... When we were dealing with a case, the girl who was suffering from exorcism could lift objects without even touching them... She can shake the objects from her bed itself... She can turn off the lamp switch from her bed without touching... Have you seen anything like that...! I have been doing scientific research for 12 years thinking how was that possible to lift objects without touching them... I met UFO hunters team, physicists, Astronomers, Astrophysicists, and theologians, and many people from different backgrounds... I got feedback from few people from other disciplines... Those were the references from epics of India, where they knew the technology of lifting heavier objects without touching them and one more reference from levitation, anti-gravity rules etc and stuff like that... I am not a stroller to linger around here wasting my time... I am here to read and see and observe various paranormal stuff, I am not here to start a fight... Moreover you are not a match to me in fighting, you are bit elder... Well, we are all family who believe in common things... But our approaches are different... My parents call me Johnny, my colleagues call me Mr. Dominic, my clients call me Dr. Dominic, and my students call me Sir Dominic; even though different set of people call me differently, but the person is same...

So cheer up... Relax, I am not an opponent... I am here to help people find an explanations about the paranormal stuff with different approach...

Sadly speaking that, one person near our place died few months back, because of the answer he received here... He was damn scared that it was ghost... But fact was, when people walk on the road and a car or any vehicle coming behind with lights could make a shadow... The shadow was being reflected into the room in upstairs through the window, so the pedestrian's shadows looked like ghosts... Well, we solved this problem when we read in the article "Ghosts appears in an hostel leaving a student dead" in local news paper. You guys scared him to death... But it was not ghosts, but a shadows of those who walk on road which was appearing like ghosts in his hostel room...

So, do not simply conclude and satisfy with your answers... I am telling this to all... You should know what you are talking...
adsouza (guest)
 
12 years ago (2012-06-11)
Rook, Puppy and team - I have been reading the stuff on this account for some time now. I believe the message is getting skewed somewhere, so I am going to use a language that Dominic would understand. I'll translate for those who are interested.

Dominic - Kidhar se hai tu? Bolta hai ki NASA ke liye research karta hai... Idhar tune sabko kya chu samjha hai kya? Bahut time se teri bakwas padh raha hoon. Tereko lagta hai ki yeh account jhoot hai, toh theek hai, tune apna opinion daal diya. Idhar argument karega toh muh ke bal girega. Aur jahan tak research ki baat hai, toh dost, maine bhi kaafi research kiya hai. Itne pe chup ho ja, sabke dimaag pe kam load rahega. Ab tak tere comments sirf dimaag kharab kar rahe hain.
rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
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12 years ago (2012-06-11)
WAIT...You claim we know know what causes the ships and planes to go missing in the Bermuda Triangle?!? Really, PLEASE DO TELL...

I've seen some really good theories but nothing conclusive on this topic, so 'spill' what causes them to go missing?

Rook
rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
 
12 years ago (2012-06-11)
dominic,

Thank you for your reply. It's not really your methods I question... Anything and everything natural must be eliminated before the paranormal can be considered. But do you really believe that having YOUR PSYCHIATRIST and asking his (her) opinion is fair considering they have never met, nor talked to the O/P?

Is your 'NASA' research group truly an unbiased group?

Last but not least, Is it fair for you to pass judgement on this individual and their experience without having done a case study of your own?

Respectfully,

Rook
dominic (guest)
 
12 years ago (2012-06-11)
Rook, you are more experienced than me, no doubt... You might be having some methodology to approach a case study... But, I mention you my way of dealing the paranormal stuff... And all of them I learnt through my experience...
Well listen to me...
1) When I was 8, people began dying in our place. Nobody knew the cause. Everybody believed in ghosts. Many paranormal research groups had arrived to solve it. The case got solved when a team of medical researchers have arrived. It was caused by VIRUS, not ghosts... Its always advisable to approach the problem to people from various sectors, like engineers, doctors, scientists, paranormal, etc... That is the main reason why I referred this story...

Once the northern light was considered as ghosts and spirits dancing... But the scientists proved that its a natural magnetic phenomenon...

Like that many many many... We can prove it... Even sometimes we fail to prove it scientifically, but there might be a scientific explanation which our present technology is unable to explain... Best example is BERMUDA TRIANGLE... Earlier people though that it was aliens who attack there and sink the planes and ships, some even believed that ghosts have done, and there are many movies regarding that... And there were many theories put forward... But currently, we know the reason behind the mystery...

My explanation is can your naked eyes identify the hot and cold burgers placed 10 feet away from you...! But, Infrared camera can identify... Can you hear sounds of ultra weaves...! But a bat can hear... My point is there could be something which could explain the phenomenon...

Maybe we need to invent new technology... I am scientific in my approach, but not adamant... If I were an adamant fellow, then I would be an atheist... But I am a strong believer and a Catholic...

I always give honest, unbiased, and straightforward answers which many do not like...

The reason why I am straightforward is because I am a practical scientist... I cannot give wrong values in my research to please somebody but on the other hand could even kill people... I will have to be like this, no matter you like it or not...
puppy5282 (2 stories) (23 posts)
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12 years ago (2012-06-11)
Chaitanyaprofessional
I apologize for this random post but I am not a boy. I am a girl.:) I am not angry that you made a mistake in my gender but it was a suprise to me. I will take your advice.
Puppy
Chaitanyaprofessional (1 posts)
 
12 years ago (2012-06-11)
Se...dude.you are well lucky to find ghost like her... Who does not think to harm you... They are only found 5-15 ghost of 1000 ghost who help you... So don't be afraid... Beleive in allaha... All will be right...
rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
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12 years ago (2012-06-11)
puppy,

I feel I must apologize for certain individuals... They drop in for a visit. Make some comments designed to 'enrage' people and then they stir the 'pot'. We call them Trolls... Most easily identified by the fact that they will keep the argument going as long as possible while ignoring real questions about some of the statements they have made.

Perhaps my questions will be addressed in a separate post...let's wait and see what happens.

Respectfully,

Rook
puppy5282 (2 stories) (23 posts)
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12 years ago (2012-06-11)
Dominic
Miricles
I did not send in my experience to have an argument in the comments. I am not criticizing you two I am mearly saying that I have found a solution thanks to rook and there is no need for anymore arguing. I may be a teenager but I have no interest in fights. I hope you two understand that.
With love,
Puppy ❤

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rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
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12 years ago (2012-06-11)
dominic,

Your first three reasons are interesting although the 'groups' or individual (s) mentioned in them 'in general' tend to not believe in Ghosts. (Hate to stereo type, but I think my observation holds merit).

I am very interested in this comment from you... (quoted so there is no misunderstanding)

"Reason 4) If it is ghost girl who is doing this stuff, then she would never leave a clue about her findings... Ghosts never reveal their identity... You will never know, who it is, what it is or any of the questions will remain as questions, and none of your questions will be answered..."

You have been very, very adamant about being scientific and using research methodologies and I'm really curious how you developed this opinion if solid research and the scientific method are indeed your methodology. Could you please explain to the rest of the class just how you came about your hypothesis?

(I ask as someone who has been interested in ghosts and spirits from the time he was 7 years old, I've done loads of research and was at one time a practicing Wiccan (solo practitioner). I turn 45 in July so I have many years of interest and research and this is the first time I've ever heard this idea put forth...)

Rook
Miracles51031 (39 stories) (4999 posts) mod
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12 years ago (2012-06-11)
dominic - I'd respond to your comments one-by-one but that doesn't interest me. I will respond to the ones that do, though. Black sheep...hmmm...in this case I will take that as a compliment because if it means taking responsibility for something I've done, I guess I'm a black sheep.

I don't much care that you don't like that I've deleted your comments. I didn't delete them out out jealousy or incompetence. If that were the case, I'd have deleted all of our comments, which I didn't do. And I'm not interested in winning you over. Frankly, I'm not interested in you and I being on the same side in anything.

You said I "follow barbarian rules", yet this is exactly why I deleted one of your comments. You made a reference to violence/abuse against a woman. I don't give a flying flip whether or not she's a ghost, abuse is not tolerated and will not be shared with our other members as a method to "handling" ghosts. Or women who are living. Get my point?

Part of the language in the other comment I deleted was a bit too p0rn-site for the site. We have been trying to keep the reins tight and watch the wording.

And by the way, I don't have to explain why I deleted your comments. I just chose to do so the rest of the members, who didn't see your comments, would know why I deleted them.

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rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
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12 years ago (2012-06-11)
dominic,

We actually enjoy critics and those who employ the scientific method as once all the natural answers are all gone then what we are left with truly involves spirits and the Paranormal.

I did not get to read your deleted comment but I will say this, Miracles is not a loser, she is a MOD and that means she can either edit or delete comments that are offensive.

So are you going to just 'toss insults' or are you going to offer a possible explanation based on your use of scientific methods?

Go on, time to sink or swim...

Respectfully?,

Rook

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rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
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12 years ago (2012-06-11)
puppy,

Fair warning, if the spirit / entity is not 'Evil / Malevolent' then the method I have shared with you may not do anything. There is also a chance that you may have to use it a couple of times before all the negativity is pushed out and things calm down. Please make sure you 'visualize' every space in your home... Basement, attic and any crawl spaces included.

I do not claim this to be a 'fix all' however it has been proven effective by other members here at YGS and has even been used by some folks at the sister site.

Keep us updated and ask any questions you may have.

Respectfully,

Rook
puppy5282 (2 stories) (23 posts)
 
12 years ago (2012-06-11)
Rook
Thank you so much! I will use this method. I really hope this works because after reading all of these other stories I am really scared. My mom has lots of incense candles and I can easily buy the rosemary. I'll make a CD with all my favorite songs so I have the positive music. I'll start this right away. Before I go, again, thank you so much!
Happily yours,
Puppy ❤
rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
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12 years ago (2012-06-11)
Puppy,

I never said I didn't believe you, I just had some questions concerning certain points contained in your experience. Strange as it seems your 'streamlining' the details makes this sound 'less plausible' than it actually may be.

There are many of us here that suggest people keep a Journal, that way all the details of their experience can be recorded and investigated that way anything with a possible explanation is easier to 'rule out'. We like details in the submissions as they help shed light on different things, and after all natural causes have been ruled out what we are left with is truly the paranormal.

You want this spirit gone? While I'm still not 100% sure just what you may be experiencing please feel free to try this method, it can't hurt...

Recipe for a Home Cleansing/Shielding... (allow for two or 3 days to complete)

Day one: Open all curtains window and doors with screens installed, let fresh air and sunshine into the home. Have all closets, cabinets and other 'dark spaces' open so that as much natural light as possible can enter those spaces. After 2-3 hours take a broom and 'sweep' out each room (this is symbolic and you do not have to really sweep) focus your thoughts on sweeping (pushing) out all negative energies / entities /thoughts. Close home up after completing each room of your home... Please do not forget your garage if you have one. (Optional) Light incense (sandalwood or Dragons-blood works well for me) and let aroma fill the home, and/or play a tape that contains your favorite Church/Positive, Upbeat (songs that give you good thoughts) songs before you begin sweeping.

Day two (or three): Once again open all curtains, windows and doors. Take a White candle (Optional) to the center most point of the home, sit on the floor and place candle in front of you. Light the candle (visualize a white ball of light) and then focus on the flame... Visualize the flame (white light) filled with positive thoughts, energy. (Say a prayer at this time if you so desire... Ask for cleansing positive energy to fill the candles flame/white light). Hold this 'image' in your mind and then visualize the flame (light) slowly expanding outward, visualize it filling the room your in, every corner and 'dark space'. Continue to visualize it expanding...it's outer edges pushing away (burning away) any and all negative energies/entities out and away from each room in your home. Once you have visualized this flame (light) filling your entire home, picture it expanding to your property lines. Hold this image in your mind for a few moments then visualize 'anchoring' this flame (light) where you are sitting which is the center most point of your home. Once you have done this. Take a deep breath, relax a few moments and then blow out the candle. (If you didn't use a candle just let yourself relax a moment or two.) "

Now you can create a shield for yourself using the 'home shield' technique but instead of focusing on your home visualize the 'flame' simply surrounding you instead of your home... Best time to do this is after a nice shower using a rosemary scented soap (rosemary is good for purification and protection.)

Respectfully,

Rook
puppy5282 (2 stories) (23 posts)
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12 years ago (2012-06-11)
Rook
I apologize due to the fact that I made a grammatical error right there. To tell the truth I had to ask around if anyone knew about where the residents were if they were still alive. It was a while before I found anyone who knew information about the people. He (the man I asked) said that he only knew about the accident and that he didn't know the family personally but he did know where the woman lived and that I could find out more information from her. Second, Abby said that it was around 3:00, meaning it could have been some minutes before or some minutes after. She didn't remember the exact time because it was so long ago. Next, I only found out WHERE I could find the information on the house. Also I have my doubts as far as Abby's story. Being an old woman, she may not remember everything. I only simplified the story here. It makes sense that you don't believe me, my parents didn't so I don't blame you. Right now all I want is this ghost out of my house. 😐 Puppy
rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
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12 years ago (2012-06-11)
I don't mind if people call a 'story' a STORY...that's fine... I prefer they list the reasons why they think it's 'made up' or if it's just certain points they question, then they should ask the O/P to please clarify. I have a couple of questions along these lines...

First, I have to agree with Argette when it comes to finding out the history of a home... Is there some paperwork that can be found...sure...but unless this is a really small town the fact that a family moved out due to a death in the family I do not think would make 'internet headlines'.

Second, How did you learn that the remaining Family member lived, how did you word it...? Oh yes...

"Since the remaining family member lived several blocks away..." Is this something that was listed in (on) the same information you found on the 'internet'? If so then I truly stand by with the BS Blankie for this 'STORY'

Third, I can well believe that an individuals parents would become concerned of one of there children's choices in friends. I can also believe that there were arguments concerning this fact, I can even believe that her Father may have been abusive about this as well (sad as that fact is)... I do however have to question the exactness of the time that 12 YEAR OLD came home the night in question... 3AM is the old Hollywood 'Witching Hour' Horror Movie standby time and it seems a bit convenient that the one night this 12 YEAR OLD commits suicide that this time is involved.

Lastly, You stated the house is over 50 years old. How long ago did this happen? As this will play into the fact that a 12 YEAR OLD being out late, while more common 'now a days' was not all that common say as little as 10-15 years ago and would have been noticed by local officials... Not to mention if my 12 year old (son or daughter) was out that late with-out permission I'm pretty sure I'd be out looking for them... As well as possibly reporting them as missing or as a runaway to the Police (maybe that's just me).

I do hope that the O/P comes back and addresses all of the questions so that all doubt can be put aside, but until then I shall remain 'on the fence' concerning this 'story'.

Respectfully,

Rook
Jesus_soldier (guest)
 
12 years ago (2012-06-11)
You are very blessed if this is real, because id be a happy camper if my experiences were explained this well.

Thank you for sharing though
Argette (guest)
 
12 years ago (2012-06-11)
A house has to be pretty darned well known for its history to be found online. It would probably have to be on the national register. Plus, Adeline was not a typical name in the 50s.

I don't buy this one.
GhostGirl2012 (1 posts)
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12 years ago (2012-06-10)
I'm going to be completely honest with you, I'm having a hard time deciding whether or not you made this up or it's real. These things that you mention can happen, but I feel like the story is a little phony. I'm not trying to be rude but if this is real, then try and talk to her. It might be scary, but she obviously wants your help.
puppy5282 (2 stories) (23 posts)
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12 years ago (2012-06-10)
Fergie
Again I thank you. It's a relief there is someone out there who understands about these things. That's very interesting about your grand-daughter. After some research I have found out that somehow children are somehow closer to the spirits, possibly due to the fact that they are more pure in spirit. I hope the prayer-method works. I don't like the idea of being haunted. 😢
Fergie (40 stories) (1159 posts)
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12 years ago (2012-06-10)
Puppy, I have a grand-daughter that is only 7 years old. She has told us some very strange things - that have turned out to be irrefutable truth. No, I don't discount you, because of your age! 😊
Very strange things can, and will happen. 😉
puppy5282 (2 stories) (23 posts)
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12 years ago (2012-06-10)
Fergie
I'm happy that you didn't immedietly disregard me because of my age. You're right, prayers always work but in unusual ways. ("The Lord works in strange ways") Like I said in my last comment, all that's left is to wait and see what happens.
Puppy
Fergie (40 stories) (1159 posts)
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12 years ago (2012-06-10)
Puppy, prayers always work! But, not always the way we hope, or expect. Also, not always in the time-span that we want them to. 😕
I wish you the best of luck. Thanks for sharing.
puppy5282 (2 stories) (23 posts)
 
12 years ago (2012-06-10)
Okay first of all I would like to thank everyone who believes me. I know that many people don't believe me because I'm a teenager but this is true! My parents made me go through therapy because of my "Imaginary Friend". To all those who don't believe me, I don't blame you for not believing me... Anyway, I said a little prayer for Adeline so now all that's left is to wait and see if it works.
Miracles51031 (39 stories) (4999 posts) mod
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12 years ago (2012-06-10)
dominic - just in case you might have noticed a couple of your other comments have disappeared, I didn't want you to wonder why. I deleted them. I found them inappropriate, so "bye-bye."

Please, if you have something to offer, other than sarcasm and juvenile offensive remarks, then by all means feel free to comment on the stories. If not, don't.
Siri (18 posts)
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12 years ago (2012-06-10)
I believe the reason that this story might be viewed as fake is because of how neatly everything falls into place, like it's straight out of a Hollywood horror movie. Most often, in life, we don't get perfect explanations about why things are happening or even find out who/what might be causing paranormal experiences. And a family member that, just coincidentally, lived a short distance away and who didn't slam the door in the poster's face at their intrusion into a painful past? It all seems... A little contrived. Just trying to explain for all of the "OMFG, what do you mean it seems fake?! How can you tell?!" posters out there...
SnoWQueeN (5 stories) (100 posts)
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12 years ago (2012-06-10)
If the story was fake will the author ask for help?😕a person can't be that silly. Maybe its true who knows, that didn't happen to any of us. And I don't get a clue that this is fake, what's the clue for those who tell it fake? 😐seriously.

~Nikky
dominic (guest)
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12 years ago (2012-06-10)
You are preaching to the wrong choir... Well I do not believe in this story... Its just a made up one... Good if you have given this to any of the ghost film makers... You can earn... I have respect for those who are really suffering from paranormal activities. So... I do not want to waste my time here with this story... Sorry... I am not speaking like this to hurt you... But, I must remind you that, this site is not meant for such things...
Ibelieveheshere (2 stories) (68 posts)
 
12 years ago (2012-06-10)
puppy5282: I do Believe you people like Nightskycatgirl need to stop say such thing to poster like this is fake or I don't believe stuff that just wrong.
Good story though even that the girl maybe she thought you might be this Amanda cause her sister say you look like her. You could ask her something like You not her and let her know she need go to light and this is the 2012.
ngute80 (220 posts)
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12 years ago (2012-06-09)
This site is for real authentic ghost/paranormal stories. For some reason when teenagers submit stories on here they seem attention seeking and downright fake. Straight from a low budget scary movie. Of course not all the teenagers submit stories like these.
MooSkittlez (2 posts)
 
12 years ago (2012-06-09)
Leave her alone, you don't know if it's fake or not. 😠 Adeline sounds like she is trying to reach out to you. Maybe she just wants a friend. 😳
BunnyPanda (guest)
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12 years ago (2012-06-09)
I felt bad for the ghost girl. Hope she's in a better place. But I wonder, is she still there at your house giving you signs that she's there?
Andrea22 (5 stories) (65 posts)
 
12 years ago (2012-06-09)
How can you people claim this is fake? You weren't there so how would you know? This site is full of stories similar too this so why judge this one so harshly? If she was trying to communicate with you I think it would be very possible that she wanted, or wants, a friend.
ngute80 (220 posts)
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12 years ago (2012-06-09)
I agree that this story sounds fake. Its frustrating and a waste of time to read these "stories"
otteer (8 stories) (398 posts)
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12 years ago (2012-06-09)
Geez NightskyCatGirl, if you think its fake keep it to ourself. I have had plenty of things happen to me that people probably think is made up, if they didn't know me. Thats what is so weird and frustrating about experiencing the paranormal.

Interesting story, thanks for taking the time to share. Maybe just say a silent prayer for her and put a small memorial in your garden for her. Plant some black eyed susans and tell her she will be remembered and loved.
Best wishes.
NightskyCatGirl (1 posts)
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12 years ago (2012-06-09)
I wish people wouldn't make up stories like these. I can tell this is fake. 😕

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