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Trybal_Knyte (6 stories) (37 posts)
 
5 years ago (2012-07-18)
Hey J_S, Sorry about coming to your page and all I did enjoy your account though. I have a question for all of you. Anyone experience OBE or astral projections while completely lucid and aware of your surroundings? Just curious is all. Its weird that I do because I am not sure why? Just curious
Trybal_Knyte (6 stories) (37 posts)
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5 years ago (2012-07-18)
Sahee, I see where you and Ivory are coming from. Now look at it this way. If you who have no clue of what is happening to you sought out the help of a witch doctor and the witch doctor explained to you how he/she can help, would you do what you are asked to do? Of course in my account of this event is different because the help I sought also happened to be related to me and knew exactly what I had to do in order not only to protect me but my entire bloodline. I hope this kind of gives you an idea of the magnitude of how bad it could have gotten had I "not" did what I had done. Have a great week and thanks for the advise.
Sahee (12 posts)
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5 years ago (2012-07-17)
Trybal_knyte,
I don't know if you wrote this exaggeratedly or I just read this overly animated... (I hope you understand my english) and i'm with ivory. No witch doctor can do such drastic thing, because they are respectfull to elementals.
Trybal_Knyte (6 stories) (37 posts)
 
5 years ago (2012-07-17)
Sure Jav,
Ivory, yes I do understand where you are coming from in regards to witch doctor's and elementals as we as Samoans have them in some variation. The only difference with our side is that some natural formations like a stone wall (naturally formed yet doesn't seem like it is in the right place) or a spring in the middle of a forest where the water looks so appealing yet you feel like if you do try to taste or take a dip in you would be in trouble. These places where I come from can be traced. Not all but some, especially when the parties involved know whose land the trespass had happened. This is where witch doctors have different approaches for different situations I guess we could call them. For my case, I had to whip the spirit whose bloodline is protected and housed I guess the rough translation in Samoan would be, because he/she is not supposed to manifest and bring harm to the living. Sometimes we go as far as digging someone up and burning the bones just to teach a cheeky/malevolent spirit a lesson. I did not mean to offend as I have said before. (it was not my intention). I was trying my best to explain my experience. I hope this helps.
zzsgranny (18 stories) (3312 posts) mod
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5 years ago (2012-07-16)
Trybal_Knyte: Thank you for the clarification...Also, I wanted to thank you for the info about the bus stops, as that was my next question 😆...

I think it's the part about the tree that got some of us reaching for the Blankie... Most cultures that I'm familiar with revere elemental beings, tree spirits being amoung that classification...But, most cultures don't do the "head shrinking" thing (like the tribes in the Amazon region) either sooo😆...
Miracles51031 (36 stories) (4802 posts) mod
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5 years ago (2012-07-16)
Trybal_Knyte - thank you for responding to my question. Most posters, when questions like this are asked, don't return and answer them.

I have no knowledge of your culture, so I won't say anything about that. I was just curious about the bloodline remark. Thanks again.
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
5 years ago (2012-07-16)
Trybal_Knyte,
In your reply to Miracles you stated that
"My grandmother comes from a long line of soothesayers I believe they are called and witch doctors. Your definition of witch doctor and mine might differ in some ways but they are of the ones who deal in the paranormal. Spirits or entities here tend to target blame on bloodlines like this. Regardless of the members of the party, if there were two of us that had roots like mine, I am about 90 percent positive the other person would have had to do what I did too"

It is because of this statement that I was hoping you would address Ivory's remarks. She is not from here either, and the culture she was raised in would seem to fit your stated parameters. Care to respond to that at all?

Jav
Trybal_Knyte (6 stories) (37 posts)
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5 years ago (2012-07-16)
zzsgranny. YEs I am Samoan. Like critique, or disbelief, regardless all way to help is how I see it. You can believe or not, it is your choice. I just tried (and failed) to relay, my experience is all. If it comes across as farfetched, then my other experiences would literally blow your top.

Miracle, this was my first attempt at this and I know I did a crappy job of editing. The spirit in the tree knew who my ancestors were (my bloodline). My grandmother comes from a long line of soothesayers I believe they are called and witch doctors. Your definition of witch doctor and mine might differ in some ways but they are of the ones who deal in the paranormal. Spirits or entities here tend to target blame on bloodlines like this. Regardless of the members of the party, if there were two of us that had roots like mine, I am about 90 percent positive the other person would have had to do what I did too. Yes I am a military brat. My parents are both Samoan though. I hope this helps.

Like I said, nothing is personal on my side. I love this. Being able to share insights of my home that very few have witnessed. All of the feedback will help me be more thorough with my next post. Have a great week all.
zzsgranny (18 stories) (3312 posts) mod
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5 years ago (2012-07-16)
Trybal_Knyte: I'm sorry, I still don't understand... Let me rephrase my question: is your family of Samoan ancestry?...

I just want to point out that we're not here to critique your writing style, that's not the point of most of the criticism... This isn't a site for fiction or overly embelished accounts of experiences... We love to Google, and will research any claims made to attempt to reach an understanding of unfamiliar cultures... 😊
Miracles51031 (36 stories) (4802 posts) mod
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5 years ago (2012-07-16)
Trybal-Knyte - I was hoping some of the dust would settle a bit before asking this question, but you said something I'm not sure I understood.

You said, "You were chosen because your bloodline is my bloodline and the spirit knew that if it went after you, I would reply." Where my confusion lies is in your initial statement, "I am a military brat so I grew up in many different places before my father was stationed here and here is where I call home." I never got the connection in that sentence that one of your parents was American Samoan.
Trybal_Knyte (6 stories) (37 posts)
 
5 years ago (2012-07-15)
I thought I did Jav. The post was for you and Ivory. No I am not going after anyone, just people who could make me more credible I guess. This was my first attempt and I wanted to see how it would go.
If I offended once again I apologize. Have a great week. SLIders... Just wondering if you were referring to people with the ability to affect electricity or lights. Just curious.
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
5 years ago (2012-07-15)
Trybal_Knyte,
You aren't seriously considering chasing all the posters down to their own threads to challenge what they said here, are you?

Jav
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
5 years ago (2012-07-15)
I am more interested in having you address Ivory's remarks. She is much more knowledgeable about the culture than I am. Her response deserves an answer.

Jav
Trybal_Knyte (6 stories) (37 posts)
 
5 years ago (2012-07-15)
OKay, for jav, in your culture elementals and tree spirits are revered as in mine. But we also have ghosts of bloodlines whose lineages have to some extent malevolent tendencies I believe is the phrase. I did not mean to do what I had done and believe when I had witnessed it happen for a different family for a different circumstance I did feel the way you do to. But I had to do what I had to in order for the spiritual bond to break before it sank in to my life.

Jav, Yes you have a point. I am not much of a writer and yes I could have done a better job of being more descriptive and inspected more. In my defense, Ill try to make you see what I had that day. The stores here are not large marts or supermarkets. They are almost like little shops or mom and pop shops. There is the door the 6-8 feet of cement slab and then the bus stop and paved road. Yes I had an idea of what people would talk about when it came to ghosts but would never in my life thought I would have seen one. When I say vanish I mean, I saw him there full physical form and turned my back. Took about 13 steps and he was gone. No groceries, no trace of him walking in either direction and no cars. The closest house was about 20 yards away.
The tree part I also could have been more clear. The trees trunk went from being kind of bloated or inflamed or swollen to looking like a firm barked tree afterward.
Thank you for the input I will try to use the critique to improve my relating of my experiences to you. I hope I didn't offend anyone if you have a question just ask. I will try to describe and explain it as clearly as I can.
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
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5 years ago (2012-07-15)
Trybal_Knyte,

Here's the deal. You went from taking a bag of groceries to the bus stop for an old man, to believing instantly that he was a spirit. He paid in cash? We're talking solid hard cash, right? Flesh and blood just like you or I. You did nothing to investigate whether he could have actually had another way home but was meeting them at the bus stop? A stranger approaches and you just go with their version of this guys disappearing act? That's all it takes for you to say it's a spirit? Just a stranger's word is good enough for you to make a serious judgement call. I say serious because of what happened after that. This whole thing may have been avoided had you perhaps done some everyday, run of the mill investigating. You claim that when she told you what it was, your response was:
"I looked at her with a what in the world are you talking about look on my face"
I find that hard to believe myself, as the next moment you were out the door and running.
You can't say you were taught any lesson about believing in spirits when you were already a believer before it started. Trying to make the reader think you were shocked over this revelation in order to give it credibility would have come off better had you not fallen over yourself in the process.
My problem with this account is what you did to that tree. That's where the whole thing fell apart for me. So, after that little party was over and the tree was then a bush...
Yeah, I have a problem with that.

Jav 😕
ivory (9 stories) (77 posts)
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5 years ago (2012-07-15)
its really rude talking to tree spirit that way. And your treatment of them is just plain evil. If your story have some truth in it or not, hurting someone or something that is several lifetime older than you is unexplainable. If you said that your grandma is a witch doctor? Blah! No witchdoctor would try to harm any elemental spirit, they could plead and ask them but no witchdoctor would harm them in the way you describe it.
Trybal_Knyte (6 stories) (37 posts)
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5 years ago (2012-07-15)
Great reviews and bashing. Hey all is fun until it happens to you right. Trust when I say or dont. Like the site says its experiences that you have had. If you have never heard of a "talking tree" look it up. Indians, Arabians, Egyptians, many of the ancient and even Aboriginals have stories of forest spirits. In Samoa, they have attachments for many different reasons. Be it tree for one family line, a large boulder for another, a tooth for one. They all differ.
You should all read up on different cultures before you talk is all. Many of the spirits you classify are different in so many ways in other cultures. What you consider to be a residual haunting where you see (see through specters) are not seen here.
For the person who asked if the purchase made in real money, yes it was.
If you have never seen a village in Samoa (via Survivor) of googled american samoa, our bus stops are not like those in the states or in many places all over the world. If there bushes though, they must have been floating in the water of the beach about 15-20 feet behind the bus stop.
So like I said, no hurt or beaten feelings on my end. You actually made my day by taking up time in your day to mock/judge/or what ever you call it. Hey its all good. Before I go the last question was for zzsgranny. No I was not born in American Samoa. We did move here in the early 80's and I have been here ever since. Be Easy... Have a great week everyone.
lady-glow (8 stories) (1621 posts)
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5 years ago (2012-07-15)
Oh, no! He is threatening to submit more stories! 😨

I guess it is time to open a new paranormal category in YGS... READ AT YOUR OWN RISK! 😆
Jesus_soldier (3 stories) (416 posts)
 
5 years ago (2012-07-15)
Seeker1: I think he deserves a spot. He would fit good with the 'Goosebumps series'
Jesus_soldier (3 stories) (416 posts)
 
5 years ago (2012-07-15)
Jav: lol Oh yeah, I loved this week. We need to come up with names for each SLIder. How many do we have in the club anyway?
Seeker1 (3 stories) (58 posts)
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5 years ago (2012-07-14)
But, you gotta give this guy kudos for one h*llava an imagination right? Maybe Hollywood would hire him as one of their writers.
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
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5 years ago (2012-07-14)
JS,
When I look back on this last week, all I see are the Super SLIders and all the trolls we had to beat down. What a week, huh?

Jav 😁
Jesus_soldier (3 stories) (416 posts)
 
5 years ago (2012-07-14)
Jav: It's sad that people actually submit stories like this. You have to wait days, just to get it on the site, and then they sit back and watch people clown on it 😕...There must be a troll school, because they really work hard, I mean troll hard these days.

JS aka Brandon
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
5 years ago (2012-07-14)
You guys, I read this last night and decided to do some research on Samoan folklore to see if I could find anything that sounded anywhere close to this load of horse wallop. Nada, nothing, not even close.

Jav
Jesus_soldier (3 stories) (416 posts)
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5 years ago (2012-07-14)
ngute80: I have a cousin that used to be one. They always remind me of that movie 'Full Metal Jacket'. Yes, it came out in 1987, when I was born, but I love classics haha.
ngute80 (220 posts)
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5 years ago (2012-07-14)
Jesus_Soldier
That's funny to me because my husband is a drill sergant 😊
shellzy (8 stories) (218 posts)
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5 years ago (2012-07-14)
Heh heh... I just had to giggle, one of the ads that popped up under this story was for 'tree stump removal' lol... Classic!

Geez I'm thinking a double decker bus might be in order for this one! Magic paste and shrinking trees? Oh boy oh boy... What can I say? Lol 😆
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
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5 years ago (2012-07-14)
That's right Puff. Thanks for reminding me. A waaaaaay bigger bus. Something custom made for just this kind of thing...

LOAD HER UP PUFF! I'M CALLING THIS ONE RIGHT NOW!

Jav 😁
Jesus_soldier (3 stories) (416 posts)
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5 years ago (2012-07-14)
I was quite shocked that this story didn't catch heat by the time I got to it. I'm sorry, I have to share my favorite lines of the story:

"What are you doing to me? YOU were the ones who were disrespectful. You untaught, ungrateful little maggots?" (is it me or did the last part sound like a drill sergeant, is your dad a drill sergeant?) I then pulled out the belt and started whipping. I could hear him plead and beg for forgiveness and I just kept going. (You reminded me of a parent giving their child a spanking: " Didn't...i... Tell... You... To wash them dishes!")
rookdygin (24 stories) (4350 posts)
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5 years ago (2012-07-14)
Jav,

Don't you mean BUS... I think were going to need a bigger BUS...

Puff Bayram
misstee4 (21 posts)
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5 years ago (2012-07-14)
Oookkk...this is very ridiculous, sorry. Yes this sounds like a low budget horror movie that made me laugh more than scare me. Gotta give it to you, you have a great imagination!
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
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5 years ago (2012-07-14)
I don't think we have a blankie big enough for this. Stealing a line from the movie 'Jaws', "I think we're going to need a bigger boat"

Jav 😲
kittymotley (7 posts)
+1
5 years ago (2012-07-14)
that made my brain hurt. I believe in a lot of things but this ranks up there with the toothfairy.
clever210 (3 stories) (189 posts)
+3
5 years ago (2012-07-14)
Has anyone thrown the blankie on this one yet? 😆
I don't even know where to begin... So I won't. 🤔
Sahee (12 posts)
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5 years ago (2012-07-14)
Im sorry but when I read your story... I thought, yeah, another made-up story...
I'm newbies too, but you don't have to made story that hard to believe just to be 'in' in the circle.
Sorry for being rude.

PS: if its true, I feel sorry for the trees you've beaten... Their should be other way than beating an innocent tree. Imagine? You turn it into bush... Awww.
zzsgranny (18 stories) (3312 posts) mod
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5 years ago (2012-07-14)
ladyglow: Being a tree-huggin' hippie type, I took offense the brutal treatment of this gnarled and twisted, centuries old, living, breathing, majestic piece of Mother Nature 😊...

I wonder how the O/P would feel if the entity treated his grandmother the same way?... 😆
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
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5 years ago (2012-07-14)
Ooooh I see, the mainstream media screwed it up for you. And now you're here to set the record straight? Well, let's see now...
You walk a guy out to the bus stop and walk back to the store, you then turn around and see he is gone already. So? BUT then some crazy lady comes up talking some nonsense about "It" and you freak out, run to grandma, she questions you about you and your friends partying out in the boonies. You then get an "elixer" to drink for 3 days, bathing in it on the third day as well. Mixes up some pasty crap and instructs you to slather it on the weirdest looking tree there.
Okay, I have to stop. I could go on for another week, but I won't. What you've done is bad enough. You really want us to believe that you guys beat a tree so bad that it turned into a bush? Riiiiiight...
Here's what I think happened. Grandma slipped you a 'Mickey' and you went to Disneyland in your mind. Hope it was a nice trip!

Jav 😆
lady-glow (8 stories) (1621 posts)
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5 years ago (2012-07-14)
Did the ghost use real money to pay for his purchases, or was it Monopoly money?

I believe the part of the talking tree, there is one just like that in the Pocahontas movie.
😜
Jesus_soldier (3 stories) (416 posts)
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5 years ago (2012-07-14)
ngute80: It's very hard not to come off as rude, when we read some stories. I'm very peaceful, but some people will try to insult your intelligence. I know we don't know everything about the spirit world, but my gut told me something isn't right when I read this.

JS aka Brandon 😐
ngute80 (220 posts)
+5
5 years ago (2012-07-14)
Ummm. I don't even know what to say. Did I just read a badly written movie script? I'm really not trying to be rude, but come on this is just ludicrous.
Miracles51031 (36 stories) (4802 posts) mod
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5 years ago (2012-07-13)
granny - you took the words right out of my mouth LOL. I was wondering the same thing. I've mulled that over a couple of times.
zzsgranny (18 stories) (3312 posts) mod
+3
5 years ago (2012-07-13)
Trybal_Knyte: I need some clarification before I go any further... Were you born in American Samoa, or did your family settle there after your Father was stationed there?

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