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Gayatrishiva (3 stories) (121 posts)
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9 years ago (2015-07-29)
Well lady glow I too got a hunch that may be these are same persons and after that I come here to check this story as I was feeling some similarities... In comment section I see you have just pulled the words out of mouth.

I hope we get an explanation from deathbydonut otherwise as usual it's the same teens.
sushantkar (16 stories) (533 posts)
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9 years ago (2015-07-29)
I would say EXCELENT JOB DONE! I got a hint when you whistle the alert massage and after reading the comment from DBD, both the TPA and DBD are teenagers too.
Well Well, now then, DBD, I am hoping to hear proper answer from you.
It wouldn't happened if you answer the questions rather that escaping from the situation.
Lady glow, you deserve a big bow from me... The here you go! BOW!

Regards,
Tiger Van,
Troll Patrol
lady-glow (16 stories) (3154 posts)
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9 years ago (2015-07-29)
DeathByDonut: this is going to be a long post, please bear with me.

As wonderful as the cyberspace is there is a down side to it: the fact that allows to any one to pretend to be whoever or whatever they want without exposing their true self... Identities are safe.

YGS is a site in which the vast majority of its members are broadminded enough to accept the different beliefs of people from different parts of the world, questions and discussions are welcome... Tall tales are not.

You joined the site recently and, probably, hadn't have a chance to see the drama that occasionally arises when a story is questionable. More than once there has been some one defending its brainchild with the teeth and the claw; closing its account just to open a new one under a different user name only to be given away by their narrative and their personal writing style.

After reading TPA_Abhijeet's (a.k.a. Black_Death) stories and comments, it would be difficult not to recognize his writing style even under the name of 'another' poster and that is the reason that made me blow the whistle calling the Troll Patrol. I need their opinion to either confirm my suspicions or to prove that I'm being paranoid.

The following comments are the red flags that make me think TPA and YOU, DeathByDonut, are the same and one person:

TPA_Abhijeet (guest)
2015-07-16 (2 weeks ago)
Nice one Strange things
I would like to know more about that house and I am eagerly waiting for more stories

However there is one thing I don't get, please explain that to me
1) You told me that your brother was afraid to go upstairs alone i.e on 2nd floor, right? But you told me that he saw the ghost in between his room and girls room which both are on ground floor as per your house layout. Then why was he afraid to go upstairs when the ghost was on ground floor? And if he saw the ghost in between his bedroom and girls room, then he should be afraid to go in his room too because it was where the ghost was standing and staring at him

Please ask your brother about that and he might tell you something more about it"

And:

2015-07-23 (5 days ago)
Nice one
I am not an expert about such things so I can't help you much

But I have a few doubts
1) You told me that you could see a face behind you in the starting of story then while your mother was experiencing all these things, was you still able to see that face?

2) You told that you have now started experiencing things like your mother then please tell me what kind of things in detail

Just wanted to know

Yours respectfully,
DeathByDonut

There are many members from India (sashantkar, SDS, sheetal, Pragya, and others) whose valuable advice is written in their very own and particular writing style, but none of them have ever used the words "YOU TELL ME..." in the way TPA and DBD use them.

Add to this the fact that both of your stories share the following:

- both OP's are east Indian teenagers
- the phases of the moon are mention in both of their stories
- both experiences describe 'encounters' with a red eyed entity
- the grammar and command of the English language is of equal level

I can not be 100 % sure that TPA and Donut are the same person, but I had to take the risk of speaking up my mind even if this means facing ridicule in order to prevent the submission of a fake story.

DeathByDonut: I apologize in advance in case I'm mistaken. I understand how addictive the stories in the site can be, I understand your eagerness to share a story but, please, do it only if it is TRUE.
Otherwise keep reading, there is a lot to learn from the stories of other posters.
sushantkar (16 stories) (533 posts)
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9 years ago (2015-07-28)
Hello deathbydount! The story was written by TPA-Abhijeet. But when question started to arose; despite of resolving the doubts he decided to act like a TROLL and he deleted his a/c and accured a new name as 'BLACK DEATH'.
It forced us to establish 'TROLL PETROL UNIT' so that we could search him and and also search future Trolls to avoid any breach.

Regards
Tiger Van
Troll Patrol Unit
valkricry (49 stories) (3268 posts) mod
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9 years ago (2015-07-28)
Donut, when this story first appeared the author was TBA. He then changed his name after we started asking questions to Black_Death. I guess he didn't realize that the name change would show up on his stories as well. Now, apparently he is using yet another name.
DeathByDonut (guest)
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9 years ago (2015-07-28)
Black_death:
Its written well but not something I could digest. After reading the comments, I got answers to 50% questions but its still hard to digest and though 50% are still unanswered.

Just my one question,
1) You said that your body was dragged at around 3am and temperature was below 0 C. And you also said that your friends found the dragged path so were able to locate you.

Now, tell me below 0 C when the snow is frozen hard then how could your body path was created when you were dragged?

By the way guys, I don't understand that why you guys are asking questions to TPA_Abhijeet (He is rude atleast after reading his comments) when the story is written by Black_Death.

Lady-glow:
Is he back? But where did he go? (Sorry, I don't understand it). I don't know what's going on here?

Yours respectfully,
DBD
lady-glow (16 stories) (3154 posts)
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9 years ago (2015-07-28)
TROLL PATROL ALERT!
Guys, I suspect our friend TPA_Abhijeet is back under a new alias... Threatening to submit a second part to the latest of his stories. 😐
Let's keep our eyes open.
samtillie (5 stories) (242 posts)
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9 years ago (2015-07-21)
If it is a load of rubbish, its very disappointing, some people have far too much time of their hands!
sushantkar (16 stories) (533 posts)
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9 years ago (2015-07-20)
By the way samtillie, I forget to give my identity, I am Tiger Van, a proud member of YGS and a member of Troll Patrol unit.

Regards
sushantkar (16 stories) (533 posts)
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9 years ago (2015-07-20)
Hello samtillie! It would be miracle if he answers to your question, he is a 'Prize fugitive'and our TROLL PETROL unit is searching him.

Regards
samtillie (5 stories) (242 posts)
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9 years ago (2015-07-20)
Sorry to jump on the large band wagon. But I am disappointed in this story, it is very confusing. Plus this is the second part to the first and I was dubious reading your first story. I questioned you about the blood you were covered in, as any normal person would have been horrified by this. Seeing a large amount of blood, wouldn't you have called for help? Checked that no one was injured?

A large number of children and teenagers with barely no supervision in a very dangerous environment, which people need to be trained for and have at least some basic survival skills, wolves and creatures! Sounds like a low rent, bad movie to me!
lady-glow (16 stories) (3154 posts)
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9 years ago (2015-07-19)
Jon (not John) Santa here, ready to try all those delicacies... Though my stomach sometimes doesn't agree with spicy food and might have to get off the bus and make a run to that toilet in the Himalayan forest. πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜†
Hecate0 (4 stories) (418 posts)
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9 years ago (2015-07-19)
Sushant, I love the spices you use but cannot handle "hot". I am sure you can help me with your Indian Breakfast without the heat, right?

This guy has left, right? So we can write this wonderful Misdemeanor Train engineered by Dear rook, whateverhisname's story. Lets face it, now we all want to try everybody's potluck contributions here... 😁
valkricry (49 stories) (3268 posts) mod
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9 years ago (2015-07-18)
As long as it's yummy, Sush - I'll give it a go.
Lady-glow, I swear those 'karma' points are more drama then they're worth. πŸ˜† My guess is a childish 'get even' agenda? No big worry, they can only do so many then they can't 'vote' anymore for awhile.
sushantkar (16 stories) (533 posts)
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9 years ago (2015-07-18)
Very Good morning Val and of course to Rook also, I am planing to prepare 'Masala Dosa' (Masala- Spicy) with plain sambol or sambhar (spicy gravy made from pulses and vegetables) , a typical South Indian dish, good for breakfast, fast to cook, light to stomach and not to forget, good to health 😊.

Regards
lady-glow (16 stories) (3154 posts)
 
9 years ago (2015-07-18)
Uh, guys... Some one is giving us negative karma points. Wonder who and why is doing so. 😐
sushantkar (16 stories) (533 posts)
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9 years ago (2015-07-18)
Ok Rook... Here is my TROLL PATROL name 'Tiger Van' (First pet name 'Tiger' and 'Van' stands for Varanasi, the place where I born (slight deviation) ) kindly count me in too 😊.

Regards & Respect
valkricry (49 stories) (3268 posts) mod
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9 years ago (2015-07-18)
Rebel Racine, here...
Shush - what makes up an Indian breakfast?
Nothing too fancy from me, just some homemade biscuits and gravy. Any takers?
rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
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9 years ago (2015-07-18)
Hmmmm turmeric...coriander...cardamom...SAFRON.

Welcome aboard the Miss Demeanor... I am your Driver, DJ and Grill Chief. They call me Puff Bayram and I am a proud member of the YGS TROLL PATROL. Please state your TROLL PATROL name by using the name of your first pet as your first name (ie: Puff) and then adding the name of the street your family lived on when you were born (ie: Bayram)...

So it's now time for the TROLL PATROLING, BS BLANKIE TOSSING Crew to sound off...

Puff Bayram: Present and accounted for!
sushantkar (16 stories) (533 posts)
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9 years ago (2015-07-18)
Hmmm... So this is the breaking new of this morning that the so called demon fighter had ran away from the situation, deleted his a/c and camouflage himself by accruing new name.

This move is not only cowardly but also profoundly funny and nonsense πŸ˜†

You all surely must be tired of by the boring trip; if you don't mind Indian breakfast then I would take care of spices and chillies 😊.

Regards
lady-glow (16 stories) (3154 posts)
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9 years ago (2015-07-18)
Rook: perhaps he tried to open a new account under a new user name but using the same email address in the hopes that his history would disappear?

I have no idea, but if he is trying to come back it would be easy to spot him again...I'll never forget his way of defending his nonsense with claws and fangs.
rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
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9 years ago (2015-07-18)
lady-glow,

Here have some chips and a beverage of your choice.

I am curious how this 'story' was posted under the screen name 'Black_Death' and argued so hard about by someone calling themselves TPA_Abhijeet...I did not think screen names could be changed.

What up with that Yo?!?

Puff Bayram
lady-glow (16 stories) (3154 posts)
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9 years ago (2015-07-18)
I'm still trying to figure out what he means by:

"I was in critical state- It means that I was knowing what is happening around me but my mind was neglecting everything. And I completely remeber everything."

Oh, well! -guess it is just part of his hyperbolic personality! πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜†
Hecate0 (4 stories) (418 posts)
 
9 years ago (2015-07-18)
Oh, and Rook, I have yet to use a new pottery garlic roaster I got. Your bread is part of the stomach symphony going on here. 😊
Hecate0 (4 stories) (418 posts)
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9 years ago (2015-07-18)
I marinade 1.5 inch tenderloins in garlic for about 4 hours or more... Grill, top with caramelized onions (oooh smell the house now...). Yep, I think this ride, along with some awesome deviled eggs and such, is going to be a culinary adventure. Thanks for the fun times. πŸ˜† My stomach is now officially growling. I am in Arizona. Can you hear it?
rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
 
9 years ago (2015-07-18)
MMMM, Hungry.

How's this for a 'bread' appetizer...

A nice warm Itialian Loaf sliced into 1/2" thick pieces, served with a whole roasted head of garlic (on the side so you can crush and spread the soft cloves on your bread) served with Olive Oil seasoned with a touch of fresh ground black pepper.

Take a slice of bread, smear the roasted garlic on it then dip it into the olive oil. Yummy.

Served with a rare or medium rare aged porterhouse steak.

Man, that's not fair I'm at work and not off until 6pm tonight.

Respectfully,

Rook
Hecate0 (4 stories) (418 posts)
 
9 years ago (2015-07-18)
Having some fun wordplay for a late night snack, eh, Rook? πŸ˜†

I am the queen of garlic bread - start with a French brioche, sliced, slathered with herbed garlic butter (with herbes de provence, fresh garlic and powdered garlic, marinated for at least 6 hours), grilled. Eat. Or cut into cubes and bake for crispy little croutons. Made my 50, and made myself hungry. 😊
rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
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9 years ago (2015-07-18)
Our EX O/P asked this question in one of his last comments...

" 3) Do you know there is thing called Hyperbola in English Grammar?"

The answer to that is YES, yes we do...

HYPERBOLE
: extravagant exaggeration (as "mile-high ice-cream cones")

So what the O/P alluded to (always wanted to use that word in a sentence...LoL) is that his experience was one big 'extravagant exaggeration' or at the very minimum SOME of the details were altered... Altered Details bode not well (heh I used bode in a sentence...) for TRUE EXPERIENCES (Just look at the Amityville Horror).

All I really have to say is this...

ALL ABOARD THE MISS DEMEANOR, Load 'em up'! It's time we tossed the B.S. Blankie on this one. ALL ABOARD!

Lady-glow, please pass those deviled eggs. πŸ˜‰

(Setting neddle to vinyl the song Won't Get Fooled Again by The Who BLASTS from the Miss Demeanors state of the Art Sound System...)

"Won't Get Fooled Again"

We'll be fighting in the streets
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they worship will be gone
And the men who spurred us on
Sit in judgement of all wrong
They decide and the shotgun sings the song!

Just for Fun,

Puff Bayram (Driver, DJ and Grill Chief of the Miss Demeanor)
RedWolf (31 stories) (1292 posts)
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9 years ago (2015-07-18)
Rook
Save me a seat on the bus. My problems are.
1- He could see what types of guns the 4 hunters were carrying at 25 meters away. That's over 75 feet and in the dark it would be impossible to see what kind of guns they had.
2- First he says that the father allowed them to hike ahead. But in his comment he said the father wanted them to stay behind.
3-People were astonished that he made it out of the woods alive. So why then is the toilet in the woods? For bears?
4-There was an 8 year old that was possessed when he got back to camp. They exorcised her then the demon went into another girl who was chubby and she threw some of the boys around and they got some fractures and it took longer to get the demon out of her. How did a group of teens exorcise either of these girls and nobody else got possessed?
5-None of these kids had hypothermia. No way none of them were hypotheric
Ah well maybe it was a dry cold and they didn't notice it.
valkricry (49 stories) (3268 posts) mod
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9 years ago (2015-07-18)
I don't understand what a hyperbola has to do with your story? Especially when it is not part of English grammar, as you say, but of mathematics. Unless you are referring to the conical beam of light given off by flashlight? Which still explains nothing, as the question raised by Rook pertained to natural lighting of the moon.
And to answer your question - yes, I would expect any self respecting human being, responsible for the well-being and lives for others to risk themselves to assure the safety of others in their care. Or did you not give us the proper information? For instance a fracture of the arm or hand is not going to effect hiking ability although painful. A hairline fracture will still allow mobility although extremely painful, and can possibly be made worse.
You try to shift the neglect to 'the demon still being around', yet you all had waited there until 9AM to leave. You all took time to gather sticks, and to gather your gear. Could it not be, that you were so scared, you (personally) did not notice/see if your 'leader' did not make sure that everyone was capable of the trek back during those hours that you were waiting for it to be light enough to leave? Heck I know if I believed some demon had try to make off with ME, I would be beyond just scared, and many things may have passed me unnoticed. And you can not possibly think that no 'Westerner' has hiked in the Himalayas... Can you?
lady-glow (16 stories) (3154 posts)
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9 years ago (2015-07-18)
Oh, no! I was busy today and when, finally, got time to reply to TPA's latest comment he had cancelled his account! πŸ˜•

Well, guess I'm still in time to get in the bus carrying a basket full of snacks and deviled eggs.
sheetal (6 stories) (771 posts)
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9 years ago (2015-07-18)
Abhijeet There is no need to remove your account from here... If someone has doubt then they will surely going to ask... Nobody is blaming your story is fake but the things which you mentioned in the story is very hard to gulp... That's it dear... There is nothing to become angry...

Just my honest opinion dear 😁
Pragya (5 stories) (68 posts)
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9 years ago (2015-07-18)
Hi I liked the first part but this one cast a shadow of doubt on both the parts. First of all a 8 year old going for trekking to Himachal Pradesh...well...ahem... 😐 with a 17 year old group leader who is sleeping in a tent... And there are 60 kids in all... Without any adult supervision... To tell you the truth the trekking company's license can easily get cancelled for such negligence...
Its too far fetched and unreal... This forum is for real stories. There is respect for people who have been through some painful paranormal experience. The sanctity should be mentioned and decorum maintained... 😐
sushantkar (16 stories) (533 posts)
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9 years ago (2015-07-17)
Dear Abhijit, You are not entitled to give every answer to the comments directing to you but when you are, you should answer them in a proper way because nobody is going to read your mind.
People here, comments on your story after reading it and if they had any doubts, to remove it, question arises in their mind is natural or same question/questions could just be merely a coincidence.
Here,you represent yourself and you will be known by your behavior and way of talking and people from different aprt of this planet will go through this decorum here and will show their feelings through 'Karma' and so far you have got only 'negatives'.

Just a suggestion.

Regards
rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
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9 years ago (2015-07-17)
Wow, I did not realize ALL of my questions were REPEATS... Heck I have gone back and read the other comments AND my last comment and while I have questioned some of the same parts of your experience I raised DIFFERENT questions.

It is what it is... Many questions, no answers... Sorry I do not 'buy into' the 'you westerners do it differently than we do in India' that could very well be so... But we won't understand that until it is explained to us (call us silly like that).

I also mentioned some possible reasons for things that happened... Moon rise... Bleeding from your forhead... Some others and I have figured out one answer you could have given... About the picture you took and hypothermia...

The picture that has been posted was taken BEFORE the events related in the O/P's experience. That is why the O/P could take it.

Now...could you please answer my questions... And not be so argumentative.

Respectfully,

Rook

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TPA_Abhijeet (guest)
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9 years ago (2015-07-17)
I aint going to answer the same questions to different people everytime, most of the questions asked are just same repeats
Its not my fault that you didn't read the previous comments

And heres a few things you should know
1) We ourselves decided to go to Camp No. 3 even when our leader was saying to stop and return back
2) Should we build stretchers just to support the injured while risking our lives while the demon still around there? 3) Do you know there is thing called Hyperbola in English Grammar?
4) Dont compare Indian treks with that of western countries? 5) We arent that rich to call using a radio. 😠
Hecate0 (4 stories) (418 posts)
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9 years ago (2015-07-17)
Rook, I am a snack lady, no problem.

For the 50... I regularly have a group of friends that comes and sits around my restaurant booth in my retro kitchen for HHH (Happy Hour at Heather's or Hecate's whatever context we are in) for snacks and beverages. Count me in. πŸ˜†

Hecate
valkricry (49 stories) (3268 posts) mod
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9 years ago (2015-07-17)
Who the heck hunts with a sawed off shotgun? They have no range to them. That's why hunting rifles have such long barrels - for the range they provide. Not to mention the blast pattern from a sawed off would really make a mess of the target.
"A photo can't be captured in Hypothermia due to extreme coldness in body," seriously? So... You came back from this horrifying encounter to 2 possessed girls, and decided to take a picture? That is what that comment suggests.
I also do not understand where the 8 year old possessed girl came from IF your group consisted of 18-10 year olds... And while I'm at it, I find it very odd that there would be only one adult leader for a group of 60, who, apparently trusts his 17 year old son to lead you all up to the camp, while he helps out another group, but apparently lacks the faith in his abilities to either A) stay with the injured while he goes for help, or B) sends him down to bring back help. And C) no radio to call for help if the need arised. You make no mention of travoys or stretchers being built, so I assume the injured walked back down. 15 km is about 9 miles - nice size trek, for even healthy teens... But there is the matter of the 8 year old who is apparently in some shock - unable to even speak, and those who suffered fractures. Fractured what? Fingers? Arms? Legs? Such things increase the chances of hypothermia, and would also slow the group down.
"We arent doctors to know at that instance that some had got fractures. The fractures were discovered when we reached hospital after reaching bascamp,"...so your leader had no first-aid experience/training to even be able to look and say it COULD be a fracture, due to the swelling and discoloration that would have been present by the time of your departure. Sorry, but your 'leader', and your 'nature group', along with all of your parents seem woefully neglectful of the groups well-being. I just can't buy it.

Hey, Rook - hold the bus while lady-glow and I get some snacks?
rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
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9 years ago (2015-07-17)
So I may have an explanation for the Blood that you were 'covered in'... But I too have some questions about these 'experiences'...

Let's start with the 'covered in Blood' from Part 1.

(heck let's start with a quote...)

"I found that I was dragged in a cemetery in the forest below our camp. I didn't had any major injuries except a few scratches caused by sticks while I was being dragged but my head was stinging so badly that I felt someone was hitting me with a hammer."

The color of blood, as you describe it, sounds as if it was partialy dried and may; MAY; have come from a scrach on your head. Head wounds bleed way more than every one thinks they should.

So you were unconscious and bleeding for 10 to 15 minutes... According to your account... In below 0* C weather (32*F)...in other words below freezing, before they found you...

What distance were you dragged? I mean just HOW FAR was this cemetary from your camp? (I ask becasue screams at a camp out tend to make me 'rush' and if your 'drag marks' were highly visable!?! How far did they have to travel to get to you?)

What were you wearing? 10-15 minutes laying on the snow covered ground and you DID NOT become hypothermic? (Color me impressed)

Now for Part 2:

As you 'ran' back towards camp becasue the girls were screaming any of the boys, including you saw 2 red glowing eyes, then this happened... (quotes from you again)

"The 2 red eyes vanished in thin air within seconds. I was astonished to see that as such creatures don't go away that easily. When the creature had vanished someone shouted from behind. When I looked back, I saw 4 local hunter ghosts with 3 shotguns and a hunting rifle with them. They smiled and left..."

By 'left' you mean vanished into thin air... As you watched? Or did they turn and walk away... Away from the screaming girls at your camp? (you may have already answered this question, I have not read all the comments...)

Then there is this...

"We had girls ahead of us so that we can support them but the creature started pulling us. I noticed that he wasn't alone as we could hear frightening sounds from many sides at one time. The creatures would make noise all at once which was equal to 10 DJ parties going on at same time but within seconds there was eerie silence again..."

How do you support the 'girls' if they are in front of you?

How was the 'creature' pulling you?

Did NAYONE else notice the 'creature' wasn't alone?

Could the 'noise of 10 DJ's' been an avalanch?

If there were individuals with posible fractures or broken bones why did 'everyone' try to return to Camp 2 at the same time? It seems the safer thing to do would have been to send a few people back and GET HELP so the injuried would not have to risk making their injuries worse.

What kind of 'creatures' do you think they were?

ONE LAST THING:

(quoted from Part 1)

"We all were very terrified and hurried back to our camp. As we reached the camp, the noises of Wolves became so loud that it seemed that they were howling in front of us. Nobody slept after that, we were all sitting beside the Camp Fire. I was still in critical state at that time. By 9:00am we decided to abandon our remaining trek and we returned to our basecamp by 12:30pm When we told everyone about what had happened up there, everyone was shocked that I was still alive. Local people and Basecamp leader told us that these creatures were the ghosts of British Trekkers who were killed by local people before Independence of India."

Now according to Part two it was the screaming of the girls that had you 'rushing back' to camp... And you then had to preform 2 (not 1 BUT TWO) Exorcisms? (Please see above questions concerning the Hunter Ghosts...)

Another question...

Was it Wolves (from Part 1) or a creature (s) (from Part 2) that you saw as you returned to the Girls at camp?

These are just a 'few' questions I have concerning your 'experience (s) '

I can understand that you left out some 'events' so that each experience was not to long of a submission, but I have to question the events you describe in Part two becasue of the way Part 1 ended... Compared to the way Part 2 ends... Which is the 'true ending' of this series of experiences.

Oh one more thing... What time was MOON RISE... Ladyglow asked about torches and such... So this matters...

Respectfully,

Rook

P.S. Puff tells me the Miss Demeanor is all warmed up, we just need a guest list and for all of them to provide refreashments to share... πŸ˜‰
TPA_Abhijeet (guest)
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9 years ago (2015-07-17)
Tweed:
I completely agree with you it would be adults responsibility to take care of that clothes but in Western culture only. In Indian culture, as most people are religious, even seeing a blood on road is bad omen (I don't believe in such stuff though). Most of the fellow trekkers were Brahmins (Caste of people who were priests in Olden times and were the senior most class of people) so they were against of even leaving the clothes as it is and were forcing me to burn those but I refused to do that

Its not the case of hypothermia at all due to:
1) A photo can't be captured in Hypothermia due to extreme coldness in body
2) A trekking tour can get cancelled due to Hypothermia
Tweed (35 stories) (2494 posts)
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9 years ago (2015-07-17)
Umm I would say that bagging blood soaked clothes would be something that would fall under the adult responsibility for that group. At least it would in Western culture, because paranormal, wounded animal, without a confirmation of the origin of the blood any questions and/or responsibilities fall with the adults who were present.
This is exactly why I suggested hypothermia as a possible physical explanation. Seriously. If the shoe fits, take it off and throw it to the wolves, cross your fingers you make it to morning. That's what hypothermia does.
TPA_Abhijeet (guest)
 
9 years ago (2015-07-17)
lady-glow:

I am sorry to be rude with you and have disrespected you in my previous comment. I know that you are senior, expert in this field and have a lot of experience so I still respect you
TPA_Abhijeet (guest)
-1
9 years ago (2015-07-17)
sheetal:
Yeah you are absolutely right that readers are getting confused due to my mistakes
I am sorry about that

And the story is really not that confusing that anyone would just won't understand
TPA_Abhijeet (guest)
-1
9 years ago (2015-07-17)
lady-glow:
Hmm you seem to be pretty tough to explain. But I won't give up

1) About the light:- Here, it is just a simple thing you are missing because I think you have poor knowledge about Himalayas and Treks. Do you know that we have to cross forests and wilderness during treks in Himalayas?
And you even write this in your comment '...wouldnt be happy to walk 15km in wilderness'
And know tell me this common sense that can reflected light reach in forests or wilderness?

I think that this doubt is cleared

2) '...info from net...', the thing I got on Internet was just a confirmation to the fact that British people lived there. And I think the comment was like this '...I asked the locals and checked the info on Net...', this thing clarifies everything but just deleted the main line and put only half part to create a misunderstanding.

I think this doubt is cleared

3) Your comment '...It is shame that you got rid of that clothes... The clothes could be checked in laboratory to see if it was real blood'. I didn't expected this stupid and juvenile question which has no common sense asked by an expert member who is in YGS for 4 years. Can you please tell me that, Is there any sane man here who would keep the clothes full of blood in his sack and bring them down with him through a long journey just to check that was it real blood?

If you still think that I shouldnt have dumped clothes then you surely need to go to doctor

4) Yeah, you are right here that no one would be happy to continue down after the pain due to fractures. Then please tell me, should they be told that they shouldnt come back because they have swelling near the fractures or having a lot of pain? Do they have any other choice?

I guess that's it, all your doubts are cleared
sheetal (6 stories) (771 posts)
+2
9 years ago (2015-07-17)
Hey Abhijeet... I think if you'd written these whole event in one single story... It would have been more trusty... Cause... You have mentioned one thing then you directly jumped another event... And the middle of the events are written here... It is creating a confusion among reader... I've enjoyed your story... And please provide all the necessary info like how many trekkers over there, their age group, Total day spending over there, trek organiser in the intro of the story... So that reader will ready to assume surrounding.

I think these separation of events are making your story confusing...
lady-glow (16 stories) (3154 posts)
+6
9 years ago (2015-07-16)
TPA: guess what, it is pasting time!
The following paragraphs are YOUR OWN words from different comments to both your stories:

"...It was a full moon night and the crystal clear ice or snow reflected the light everywhere..."
"...we had sit there for 3 hours as it was pretty dark and we had only a few torches..."
Soooo, was there light everywhere or was it pretty dark?

"...and searching the web, I found that It was a ghost of a British soldier who was dragged to that cemetery and was left for wolves..."
"...It is just a local legend and not many people know about that so I couldn't find any links about that on Internet..."
Soooo, did you find the info in the net or didn't you?

"Proofs regarding the story:-
1) The photo in Part 1, no one can create such pics in picasa.
2) The links provided by me
3) The accurate date and time
4) Forest and slope can be seen in that picture"

Actually, I have never doubted you were in that beautiful place, the problem is: it is possible to write fiction upon actual facts but not the other way around... Like you seem to be doing with these stories, or trying to do.

It's a shame you did get rid of your clothes in the spot, it would have been interesting to perform some lab tests on them in order to determine if the red substance on them was really blood, animal or human, or perhaps the juice of some berries that grow in that area, or even something else.😐

"...We arent doctors to know at that instance that some had got fractures. The fractures were discovered when we reached hospital after reaching bascamp"
Even though some fractures are not evident to the naked eye, most fractures are really painful, would produce swelling and the affected person wouldn't be happy walking 15 km in the wilderness.

It seems to me that every time you try to explain it, your story gets more difficult to understand/believe.
TPA_Abhijeet (guest)
 
9 years ago (2015-07-16)
Valkicry:
Oh sorry, I forgot to explain about the guns. As I already told you that they were only about 25m away from us, I could easily see the guns they were carrying. I like guns and can accurately guess type of guns. As one of rifle was long, I guessed that it might be Hunting rifle (As they are generally long). The other 3 were much short and had double barrels, I guessed that they were Sawn of Shotguns (I always use them while I play GTA San Andreas so I recognized them without much doubt)

They were surely ghosts because they vanished in front of my eyes. And due to history of that place I guess that they were Indian hunters who were accused of killing British people at time of Independence of India.
TPA_Abhijeet (guest)
 
9 years ago (2015-07-16)
Valkicry:
Trek India Outdoors is just a company which provides or arranges the facilities for Treks (Just like customized or tailor made tours). They just arrange tents, foods and other equipments necessary for treks. Our group had no connection with them except that they provided us the services (Trek India Outdoors wasn't the one who arranged the Trek, they were just service providers. The trek was arranged by our local nature group). The information in link is about the treks arranged by Trek India Outdoors and our trek wasn't arranged by them. I had shared that link so that you could know where we stayed.

In first part, I said that 'teens like me' which means most of our group was of my age that is 14, few were nearby 18 and some were 10.

It was a full moon night and the crystal clear ice or snow reflected the light everywhere. And the hunter ghosts were only about 25m away from us, we easily saw there face.

I hope this clears your doubt and please ask anything which creates a doubt in your mind.
valkricry (49 stories) (3268 posts) mod
+1
9 years ago (2015-07-16)
TPA,
There are parts of your account, I just don't understand. Like in part one you were trekking with, "other teens like me to a small village called Naggar", but now in part 2, the group has expanded to include 8 year olds, and there's 60 of you? Can you explain this to me, please?
How many adults were with you? I find it difficult to fathom one leader for 60 kids. Especially when (according to the website you provided) they range from 8 to 16.
Also, I would like to ask why you thought the hunters you saw were ghosts? They must've been very close to you if you could see facial expressions (smiling) and tell the difference between shotguns and a hunting rifle. In general it's hard to see such detail at night at any distance, especially when in a hurry.
Please clarify these points for me.
Tweed (35 stories) (2494 posts)
+2
9 years ago (2015-07-16)
Assuming this happened I just thought of a possible physical explanation for all of it: Hypothermia.
It makes people do some wacky things. If you were suffering hypothermia you could have dragged yourself through some blood left by wolves. The eyes could have been hallucination.
Same with the girls, they could have been lashing out due to extreme confusion, resulting in what appeared to be a possession.
Ah, wait everybody saw the eyes at one point. Righto that's me stumped I'll shut up now.
Tweed (35 stories) (2494 posts)
 
9 years ago (2015-07-16)
Oh you have replied while I was typing, disregard my request about clearing up doubts.
Tweed (35 stories) (2494 posts)
+2
9 years ago (2015-07-16)
Far out.

Well, Abhijeet, after seeing through Lady Glow's eyes I must concur I was a little trusting on this. Lady Glow has spotted some very jarring aspects of your story.
If you have fabricated these events I'm very disappointed. As this site is dedicated to people who are serious about the paranormal. We don't need nor want outlandish entertainment. We care only for honest encounters.
I dearly hope you can clear up any doubts.
TPA_Abhijeet (guest)
-1
9 years ago (2015-07-16)
Lady-glow:

1) Yeah, you are right, our group leader wasn't present there at that time but his son was leading us who was nearby 17 years old. It happened like that another group was facing some problems below so our leader had to wait behind so he asked his son to go with our group and lead us. He also was a experienced trekker.
2) Our group leader is a human too and he needs sleep and can't watch us all the time. He was in another tent so I didn't felt that important to wake him up just to tell him that I want too go to toilet (If any person does that I guess he will be the most stupid person on earth).
3) It was my clothes who were wet with blood and my body had a little bit blood too. Unfortunately I did a stupid thing of throwing all that clothes there itself.
4) Everyone was sitting near the camp fire. Yeah, we had sit there for 3 hours as it was pretty dark and we had only a few torches which werent enough for whole group and we had decided to trek only at morning so only a few had them.
5) Yeah, I agree that it was my fault that I wasn't much specific about that 3 hours. After we had managed to overpower the possessed girls, we had to wait there as it was pretty dark and I told you why we didn't came back in dark in previous explanation.
6) We arent doctors to know at that instance that some had got fractures. The fractures were discovered when we reached hospital after reaching bascamp

Proofs regarding the story:-
1) The photo in Part 1, no one can create such pics in picasa.
2) The links provided by me
3) The accurate date and time
4) Forest and slope can be seen in that picture

If you have any more questions, please do ask them until you believe my story. And please give me more information about (Why my story isn't fit for this site?)
lady-glow (16 stories) (3154 posts)
+3
9 years ago (2015-07-16)
Tweed:I guess after four years like a member of YGS I have learnt to take some stories in a very cynical approach; I find this particular one not just overdone but burnt. 😐
lady-glow (16 stories) (3154 posts)
+5
9 years ago (2015-07-16)
TPA: I'm neither an English person nor good at sugar coating my words.

I would understand grammar and spelling mistakes in your narrative and would have no problem accepting them but contradictions and embellishment in a story really bother me.

Do I believe you did this trek? - Yes, I do
Do I believe you had a paranormal encounter? - I think it is possible.

Unfortunately there are way too many things that just do not sound right and weight a ton against my willingness to believe your experience.

The fact that there seem to be no adults in charge of a group of 60 young people, other than the one you refer as "the group leader" and s/he wasn't doing such a good job from the moment s/he decided to keep on climbing the mountain under the current weather conditions. And then he let you go alone to the washroom even knowing about the presence of wolves in the area.

So you got dragged to the cemetery and blood of unknown origin was covering your body. Your body or your clothes? -I would appreciate if you clarify this part because I have more questions about this.

And then it comes the part that is really hard for me to swallow: how come first all the members of the group were seating around the fire but in the second episode everybody was engaged in an epic battle against a possessed girl that managed to break some peoples bones.
Add to this the discrepancies in the time, and here I'm going to paste your own words:
"... It was around 3am when I woke up for toilet..."
"...After about 15-20 minutes (I don't know exactly but my fellow trekkers told me)..."
"...The conflict was as long as 2 hours and we finally freed her body at approx. 9:00am."
Let's do the math: 3 am + 20 minute = 3:20 am, + 2 hr = 5:20 am
Allow some extra time taken to overpower possessed small girl and... Oh, what happened to those 3 missing hours?

And the cherry on the top: seriously injured people walking 15 kilometers back to the camp.

I'm sorry, your story is interesting, amusing and well written but not exactly fit for this site... Just my humble opinion.
TPA_Abhijeet (guest)
-1
9 years ago (2015-07-16)
Tweed:
Thanks for believing in me 😁

I guess that hunters were Indians because there clothes were a little bit Indian styled
Tweed (35 stories) (2494 posts)
+2
9 years ago (2015-07-16)
Oh my...controversy.

Abhijeet, thanks for sharing the second part of this story. Were the hunter ghosts Indian people or did they look British? I'm wondering if they were part of the belief that this was connected to the area's history.

Lady Glow and Sheetal, I agree this experience sounds totally far fetched. Especially people breaking bones then making it back to base camp. But still, Abhijeet is showing honesty, providing links and dates to his encounter. Maybe parts are remembered wrongly, maybe he dreamed the whole thing, maybe he's embellished a few parts. But with all the info we have anyone could fact check his encounter, that doesn't sound utterly phony to me.
TPA_Abhijeet (guest)
-1
9 years ago (2015-07-16)
Sheetal: They wrent ghost hunters but were good spirits or ghost (I don't know exactly) who looked like hunters
TPA_Abhijeet (guest)
-4
9 years ago (2015-07-16)
Lady-glow:
First of all be pateint and stop Blaming me

My story starts with 'Due to limited time...'
I guess you are mature enogh to know the meaning of that sentence and I had already mentioned that I will be writing Part 2 soon.

I was in critical state- It means that I was knowing what is happening around me but my mind was neglecting everything. And I completely remeber everything.

The 4 people were good spirits or ghosts (I don't know exactly) but by their clothing style I guessed that they might be local hunters.

I know you are a respected person here but if you have any doubts then please ask politely and please stop blaming me directly for a fake story.

I agree that there are few mistakes in my last part of Part 1 but I have already stated that I am a Non-English so I won't be able to right 100% accurate English.
sheetal (6 stories) (771 posts)
+2
9 years ago (2015-07-16)
Hey Abhijeet I am agree with Lady glow here... What are those ghost hunters was doing there as lady glow's word middle of nowhere? Did you talked to them that they are ghost hunters? I am confused πŸ˜• πŸ˜•
lady-glow (16 stories) (3154 posts)
+3
9 years ago (2015-07-15)
I had my doubts about the first part of your story but the second part makes me think that you are fibbing. 😠

How could you forget to mention something as shocking as the "possession" of two girls?

Using your own words:"...As we reached the camp, the noises of Wolves became so loud that it seemed that they were howling in front of us. Nobody slept after that, we were all sitting beside the Camp Fire. I was still in critical state at that time..."

I guess your state was so critical that you don't even remember what exactly happened, do you?

How do you know the 4 guys walking in the middle of nowhere and in the middle of the night were "4 local hunter ghosts", or do you mean "ghosts hunters"? πŸ˜•

I do not know, there are too many things wrong with your stories.

Is it time to ride the bus?

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