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Abby (710 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-05-17)
Dear Shane, that "is" so cliche, but so funny I nearly fell out of my chair with laughter. Since writing letters is a lost art form (except to me), I can see how "Dear Abby" or "Dear anybody" is more akin to a lost ancient comedy script. I had almost forgotten her myself. A moment of silence for both sisters.

Thank you for your smile. I hope you were not too sore with me. Ha! Ha! It is good to be back, now let's rock some stories. ;)
Shane (13 stories) (1258 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-05-16)
Dear Abby, boy does that sound cliche. If you could only see the smile upon my face right now, to know that we have the one and only Athena back. Welcome back, you were sorely missed.

Peace, Love, and Luck be with you.
Abby (710 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-05-16)
No Shane I am not a Wiccan. I am Athena and a paranormal dabbler. Once again merry meet.
Shane (13 stories) (1258 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-05-16)
Abby are you associated with wicca? I noticed you knew how to clean and recharge a crystal. Of which I did forget to mention so thank you for clearing that issue up. I probably would have caught it after it was too late.

Peace, Love, and Luck be with you.
Shane (13 stories) (1258 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-05-16)
Amen brother, I am with you all the way Martin. I think some people where frightened away by her. They probably felt they could get that kind of treatment at home when telling their stories. LOL. Looking forward to the next set of stories you have in store for us.
Martin (602 posts) mod
 
17 years ago (2007-05-16)
I love how the mood has lightened up a bit now. There's less of a judgemental tension going on, people are more receptive and collaborative. It's like going from the Old Testament to the New Testament ;) I stand by my site guideline of not allowing preaching now that I see the results first hand.
Shane (13 stories) (1258 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-05-15)
Tanis I am so sorry. I got caught up in this debate with this woman I totally missed your question. Yes an old camera or a new digital one should capture an orb if one is present. But you must realize that just because an orb appears in a picture doesn't mean it's a ghost/entity. It could be dust, a bug, reflections off something shiny, or a malfunction of the camera. Just take your time and ensure that you remove all other possiblities before claiming it is paranormal. I can't find any reason for the ones in my pictures. That is why I posted them. If you do happen to capture something, please share them with us. I am sure between all the people here we will be able to determine if it is a real orb or a dust particle. Now as for finding out a history of your apartment building, that is kind of hard to do, you need to go to the town hall and look up the old title and deeds to the property, maybe speak to some of the elders in the area and see if they have any knowledge about the place. Going to take some leg work. Good luck to you.

Peace, Love, and Luck be with you.
Shane (13 stories) (1258 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-05-14)
Martin sir, I appoligize whole heartedly to you sir and the other readers here for using your wonderful website as a debate forum with this person. I have tried to keep my thoughts my own about her but she left me no choice but to expose her for the false prophet she is after last night. I will have to communicate with you in an email sir and let you know what transpired. I believe you will find it quite interesting.

Peace, Love, and Luck be with you.
Shane (13 stories) (1258 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-05-14)
You prophetess are a false prophet and how dare you attack me as being a false minister. You are a newbie to the religion and you claim to speak for the lord. I seem to recall the bible stating somewhere, oh yeah your favorite reading, "revealations", to watch for false prophets for many will come speaking in my name. Your lies will not help you with me. You accuse others of lying when it is you who in fact lies. You accuse others of posting statements not made by them, if I have something to say to you child I will come out and say it directly and not secretly hiding behind a false name such as you do. You attack the owner of this site because he has simply asked you to not preach to others or force your beliefs on them. You have no compassion, you wept not for me but for your familiar you sent to attack me last night. Oh I know it was you, I sensed it completely and without any doubt. What a dark evil thing it was. Too bad it didn't frighten me or shake my beliefs. How did it feel when I banished it back to the darkness from which it came, through the truth and light of the ONE. Oh and how funny you are, your familiar lied to you again. I became an ordained minister through a different means, no school, no indoctrination into some secret sect of preachers. I became a minister because of false prophets like you preaching your death sentences on everyone who holds different beliefs than you. Oh and I have read the bible and many new and wonderful text pertaining to Jesus and the ONE higher power. I have also read books about other religions and I find it strange how they all seem to have the same message. One higher being controling all. I just feel sorry for you, that you would allow a dark dirty entity from a lower level deceive you like that. I will say my prayers for you and hope that one day you too will see the true light and move towards it and away from the darkness and hate and pain you feel for others who you believe have done you wrong. From this point forward dear child my debates with you are done. I will not answer your questions and I will not acknowledge your statements, but I will also not stand for you attacking someone who comes to a story of mine to post a response.

Peace, Love, and Luck be with you.
Anna (58 posts)
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17 years ago (2007-05-14)
shane its called holy spirit, please please be careful, that is a form of blasphemy when you say something that is from God is not, listen I know it was you that posted as that shane guest, and was swearing, does that not tell you I have holy spirit to know this? Just not humble enough or humility enough to admit it to anyone else, psychics is demonic, with me it is the real thing, god given gifts Shane really think about this, you are a minister did you not study the bible? You went to school the lord just told me this, how can you think mediums are god given? Did it not sink in when you took the course? Have you forgotton deutronomy? Jesus came to fulfill the prophesy not to change the laws, do you not know this? It means that Jesus came to save us but STILL LISTEN TO FATHER FROM PREVIOUS BOOKS! The old testament is NOT null and void because of Christ, please open your eyes and heart
Anna (58 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-05-14)
and shane please loose the boss thingy of telling me I will be banned, do yourself a favor review what you said "your preachings..." but you have the nerve to call yourself a minister? Not once have I seen you preach about God? Not once have I read you giving adice to seek the Lord? Should they not be your preachings too? Do not call yourself a minister to me, until you respect it, believe it, and start preaching it... Until then, I would suggest not even going their, I have noticed this so much about you, a minister who is giving me crapola for preaching about God? How wrong or mixed up are you? Seek councel and prayer Shane for your own deliverance, who knows maybe my tears that fell for you, were not ones that were wasted.
Anna (58 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-05-14)
shane it is you to feel sad for , I have actually cried for you you know that? Bawled my eyes out because you are a false teacher... That is what you are classified as...

I have no pain other then to see others, so ripped away from the truth, love god love others, the only pain I have being on this site shane, is seeing you as a minister slash reverand spouting off stuff that is not true... The lord is so disappointed in you Shane, that you are not choosing the right beliefs...
Anna (58 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-05-14)
believe me shane in the eyes of the lord you are not a reverand, get that through your head now, you lead others astray, and you do not follow the spiritual laws or the teachings of christ, you are no reverand not in the eyes of God, so you might as well accept that, or change. Because you are what is called a false teacher shane, yes get a grip on that, that is what you are,
Tmetsfan31 (3 stories) (52 posts)
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17 years ago (2007-05-14)
Everyone is turning away from what this story was posted up for.
1) I understand I cannot say much since I have no freaking idea who Anna or the Prophetess is
2) You can all ignore me if you want.
3) I have a question, if you guys read my stories Pushed by a black figure and The old man and the young Boy, then you will know that my house contains ghosts, so if I were to use any old camera, there orbs would appear on the camera? Please comment. And P.S, Shane, keep us possibly updated on any information you can get on these orbs. And also, does anyone no any sites where I can get information on the apartment I live in?

Thank You,
Tmetsfan31 AKA Tanis
Tmetsfan31 [at] aim.com for any questions
Shane (13 stories) (1258 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-05-14)
I bid you all a good night and a joyous morrow. May light always surround you and keep the darkness at bay.

Peace, Love, and Luck be with you all.
Shane (13 stories) (1258 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-05-14)
You know Martin, I feel sad for this woman. She must have done some terrible wrongs in her life and is trying to make amends for it here on your site. I feel that she was picked on as a child and turned inward to avoid the pain. Now she has discovered what she believes is the one true answer to all her problems and she refuses to allow anyone else to have a different belief. Why she likes to attack you and I personally, I don't know. Maybe she feels threatened by us and what we represent, another way of thinking. Does that make us evil, no, it just makes us different and being different is what makes us human.

Peace, Love, and Luck be with you.
fourthgeneration (6 stories) (29 posts)
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17 years ago (2007-05-14)
Shane, I am a firm believer in ghosts, spirits and demons, via some personal experiences. However, I have often found that 90+ percent of all of the conversation around the subject of "orbs" to be our ghostly equivalent to "crop circles..." Everyone comes up with very elaborate ideas for what those small circles are in photos and video footage, but conveniently forget to apply Ockham's Razor to the topic. (wink) That said, the only people who really know exactly what they saw was the person in the photo and the person taking the photo, so I'll be the last person to say that what was experienced was not super-natural. I'm just saying that the VAST majority of "evidence" on the subject of orbs is flimsy, at very-best. I am very open-minded though, and am willing to look at any and all evidence that people want to put forth.
Martin (602 posts) mod
 
17 years ago (2007-05-14)
Shane, yeah I know, but after our last conversation she has calmed down (relatively) to an acceptable level so I leave her be and try not to engage her anymore by responding. I have my own opinions on that kind of fundamentalist christians which I'll keep to myself, the other users are smart enough to make their own minds too. There are no discussion sites without some friction and as the webmaster, I don't stop people from posting stuff I disagree with, only stuff that goes against the guidelines. As another poster, I might give my own opinions on her postings now and then, which we are all entitled to. Just stay your own self, give your good advices when you feel like it and ignore her as long as she doesn't impede on your own stories.
Shane (13 stories) (1258 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-05-14)
Oh how I wish our dear friend Athena could be here for this one Martin. Prophetess back as someone else. LOL. Still attacking me I see from earlier post. You know why, because she has been tricked by a demon into thinking she is talking to the lord and she is frightened by me and the truth. She claims there are no such things as psychics or God given gifts yet here she is saying the Lord told her this or the Lord told her that. Doing just what she claims can't be done. I find her amusing, if not down right funny. Her and the Rev. Fred Phelps should get together I am sure they would have a lot in common.

Peace, Love, and Luck be with you.
Shane (13 stories) (1258 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-05-13)
Anna, you will not use my story to post your preachings on. I do not appreciate you verbally assualting someone who has come to my story to post a comment. I know you are the prophetess and you were banned once for similar incidents and I am sure if it continues you will see the same happen again. Your bending of the rules is a one sided affair it only benfits you. I would appreciate if you kept your preachings to yourself or find a more appropriate venue for them. This is a site for those who have experienced the paranormal and wish to have a place to express their experiences with out the fear of being preached to or ridicule from the likes of people who have their own agenda. You don't like my advice because it is not what your beliefs system has taught you. So be it, but don't come here and try and scare people from posting their experiences with your demons and hell routine. Just so you know and remember I too am a Reverand and I allow people their beliefs no matter how absured they may seem. Especially if no one is getting hurt. I have study psyhcology and parapsyhcology for a while now, I know what I am doing do you? If my advice allows them a good nights sleep or peace of mind what hurt is it too you? My debate with you once again prophetess is done. Forgiveness for your past trespasses and future ones have also been given.

Peace, Love, and Luck be with you.
Anna (58 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-05-13)
Yes I know the house rules in here hee hee, some rules are alright to breach once and in awhile you just sounded familiar, I did not mean where I lived, I meant in here, on this website... Do you have a brother in here? Grin.

It's alright we do not need communicate this way(smile)you seem to know the rules for a guest wow he he , you're a quick learner LOL
Anna (58 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-05-13)
enchantee you should familiar, I know you are just a guest however I am feeling through the spirit the possibilites that you are united with someone in here, almost like one, hmmm, a male, this is what spirit is telling me, a male, do you know someone in here who is male? One who posts regularly?
Shane (13 stories) (1258 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-04-11)
Surprised me too, when I seen the one over my shoulder and especially the brightest one. Could have been one of the island residents from a hundred years or so ago checking out the current resident. Haven't been able to duplicate these photos since.
MasteryofDarkness (2 stories) (21 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-04-11)
Wow...those look very similar to the orb I saw.

Those are REAL orbs.

No doubt about it.

The one a saw was green, less transparent, and sightly larger.
Abby (710 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-03-30)
Dear Shane, How wonderful to be Native American and to have such a heritage! I am glad you have come back to the old ways. Yes, I know that the word Shaman is not in the Native American language(s). Ha, Ha!
Shane (13 stories) (1258 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-03-30)
You have every right to ask and so do those who I offer advise to. Yes I am just a little over half, though to look at me you wouldn't guess it. I have a combination of Choctaw and Cherokee blood. I whole heartedly believe that the cleansing ceremony can do miracalous things, especially when done by a medicine man/woman, of which I am not. I did a discredit to them for the longest time, up until recently when I was put straight, I called them Shaman. Well a medicine man told me he wasn't from Russia and he did know what kind of things a Shaman did. Oops won't make that mistake again. Well I guess I rambled on enough to bore you to sleep. Good luck on the photos Athena looking forward to seeing what you captured.

Shane
Abby (710 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-03-30)
Dear Shane, Thanks for the how to best photograph orbs advice. I will have to try it. I should buy a digital camera. I am not a techie, just a trekie.

Sorry, I meant nobody probably cared if I was a Native American or a green frog, ha, ha. Well, I am neither. :) Green frog next lifetime.
Shane (13 stories) (1258 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-03-29)
Once again thank you. I prefer to take photos in the dark, of course you also need to make sure that you do not have anything reflective in line with the camera or you will capture that. I have captured orbs during the day also, so its just really a matter of taste. The best way to capture something is when you are feeling something is different in a room or place, just start taking photos in different directions. This is why I like digital cameras, no film to buy. If you live somewhere you know is haunted you may need a little patience as some spirits are camera shy and you may need to catch them off guard. But my best advice is to do just what you feel comfortable doing and have fun. Don't build up expectations of seeing something right away, because you may never capture anything, and then when you least expect it, there it is. Good luck Athena, hope you catch a full form on film and don't forget to share it with us.

Peace, Love, and Luck be with you.
Abby (710 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-03-29)
Dear Shane,

This is probably none of my business and you can say so, but you recommend Native American rituals and Medicine men/women to cleanse dwellings of unwanted entities quite frequently,...are you by chance a Native American? Just in case anybody is wondering which they probably are not,...Oh, and me, well, I am not. At least not in this lifetime. ;)
Abby (710 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-03-29)
Dear Shane,

You are welcome, my comments are true. You are a blessing here and your great advice helps us all.

Do you think if I just take photos in the dark that it would be best? I would like to try this too? What do you recommend? How shall I have it processed?
Shane (13 stories) (1258 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-03-29)
I find orbs to often times be dust or some other particle floating in the air. Its when they move in erradic ways or change colors that changes my thoughts about them. Like the one in my story, I took the photo to send my wife and I noticed the orb over my shoulder, I quickly turned off the light and asked that what or who ever was in my room allow itself to be photographed and the second photo is what I got. I tended to believe that these orbs are true entities who are trying to manifest themselves. That they just don't have enough energy to become a full form apparition. Thanks again for all your wonderful comments Athena.

Peace, Love, and Luck be with you.
Abby (710 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-03-29)
Dear Shane,

I have been meaning to go back to this story about the "orb". I am not a person who is a photographer or photo buff. When I have photographed things, it's usually to show the apartment I was living in at the time was left in good order before vacating it, just in case there was a question per the landlord/lady. Ha,Ha!
I've not found any orbs in the photos though. Although I have seen orbs with my eyes. I have my thoughts about them being a number of things from spirits to healing entities that come from all spirit and/or entity levels, hence the different spectrum of colors of the rainbow, as well as white and black.

What are your thoughts about what "orbs" might be?
Shane (13 stories) (1258 posts)
 
17 years ago (2007-03-15)
I do not know where these came from, I just know that if and it is a big if these are true orbs I would love to know who or what they are. Not able to find out too much about the place I currently live as it has a high turn over rate.
depthjam (guest)
 
17 years ago (2007-03-15)
these orb if you want to call them that, they have a mine of ther own, the will come when there is is a prositive song, group discustion, talk obout family tree, I have seen them grow in size fallow sertan people around. And leave when there is nigitive though in the room
Martin (602 posts) mod
 
17 years ago (2007-03-10)
This story may have passed under your radar since it was submitted some time ago yet we just received the photos recently, so I'm just commenting it to get some attention.

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