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Nysa (4 stories) (685 posts)
 
13 years ago (2011-09-27)
Perhaps the positive energy you were creating, when trying solidify thought forms, gave more benevolent entities something to use to manifest. In much the same way you feel that the arguing and depression gave more malevolent entities energy. I find tulpas interesting. I have actually wondered if it is a form of astral projection in which one projects themselves in a form different than their physical form. Anyway, it is a pretty positive exercise as I understand it so it makes sense to me that, possible or not, the attempt would create positive energy.
dustyisdead (2 stories) (90 posts)
+4
13 years ago (2011-09-27)
[at] Pjod
I think that's a clear example of the level of intelligence we're dealing with.
Pjod (3 stories) (978 posts)
+3
13 years ago (2011-09-27)
well, it is kind of funny... Jim jumping into your thread to answer another poster's question, for the purpose of avoiding you... Than goes on to give you advice. 😁
dustyisdead (2 stories) (90 posts)
 
13 years ago (2011-09-27)
[at] Nysa
Oh, and yes I guess the proper term for what I was experimenting with is a tulpa I guess. The book called them thought forms. It told of how to use energy from nature to help manifest your thought form. I can't remember what the book what called, I believe something like "how to communicate with nature spirits". You know, basically one of those loopy Llewyyn press books. Like I said, I was a teen and briefly into nature spirits and things like that. I never really was very successful in what I was doing and didn't even get past the first few stages of creating it. I don't even think it was anything to what I was doing, but you never know. I try to keep an open mind about things like that.
dustyisdead (2 stories) (90 posts)
+4
13 years ago (2011-09-27)
[at] JimD
Please don't talk to me anymore. I'm not interested in any "advice" you have, nor do I care to see you dragging other conversations into the comments section of my story.

Clearly you think I'm a bigot because, even though you can't seem to spell it, you've referred to as one several times. That's fine, your opinion means zero to me.
But if you don't like, then stay away from me and anything to do with me.

And don't respond to this either.
dustyisdead (2 stories) (90 posts)
+2
13 years ago (2011-09-27)
[at] BeautInside
Yeah that's a good theory. Once, I was looking at paranormal pics online and found a picture that looked almost exactly what she described. I wish I could remember where it was. Who knows what all came through if that's what it was.

[at] Stephyw2001
Yeah, this house was pretty crazy. And you're right about kids seeing things. They always seem so sincere, like "Duh, can't you see it also." Their matter-of-fact manner about it makes it creepier.

[at] Nysa
I get a feeling that the black mass was definitely "powering up" so to speak. Especially since it got worse as time went on. And gradually our family fought more, my parents relationship fell apart, I was going through a batch of depression and insomnia for a few months. I don't blame those things on the spirits, but I think those things could have provided negativity for the spirits to "feed on" so to speak. And maybe the black mass was the hub of operations?

And your right, I do not think Satan was involved lol. I think energies are a little more complicated than what humans have theorized through religious myths. I don't think things are so black and white. But there was a malevolence felt.
Nysa (4 stories) (685 posts)
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13 years ago (2011-09-27)
Ok what is funny about that is, you moved the conversation to a story written by the person you called a biggot.

I am familiar with the philosophy to which you refer. I find it flawed in the following way; all around us the world works without conscious thought. Trees drop acorns not because they decided to plant their seed but because that is how the world works. The weather has various causes, but nobody decided to create a hurricane. I believe it is invalid to believe that the universe works in a way contrary to how we observe it working. Thus it is not logical to believe that a prime mover is necessary to get things started.

I would not be interested in corresponding with the people you have helped as it would not change my mind. I believe things can work without the person doing them properly understanding how they work. In fact my car runs all the time because I start it, even if I don't know how it does it. I believe prayer works for an entirely different reason than people who believe in an omnipotent god believes it does. I also concede that it might not work at all and that the results could be purely psychological or even a coincidence.

At the end if this account Dusty says that a feeling of being threatened had developed. That could feasibly mean that a malevolent entity was there at that time. But I don't personally find the claim that such an entity is a minion of Satan to be credible, nor, I think it is safe to say, does Dusty.

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Nysa (4 stories) (685 posts)
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13 years ago (2011-09-27)
The portal idea is the first that occured to me as well. It could explain why the house was so active and why the mood changed. The only other thing that occurred to me about that spot is that it could have been a spot where several electrical lines in the house crossed and entities would go there to "power up," so to speak. Neither theory, though, really explains why it would only be seen for a few hours around the same time each night. Here is a scary thought, what if it was something "waking up" then sending out and sucking in different forms of energy. That theory is a little out there, it is just the image of those ribbons going in and out... Freaky.

When you say you were interested in creating and contacting spirits of nature do you mean like a tulpa or like tree spirits, or something else? It's the feeling of happiness that interests me and I am curious about what you were actually attempting. It seems to me that you could have been causing a build up of some kind of energy, whatever it's actual source.
stephyw2001 (guest)
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13 years ago (2011-09-27)
Thanks for posting your next story so quickly Dusty! 😁 I was afraid I'd have to wait a while! Amazing events! What a house! I always think the small children seeing it so clearly is what is the freakiest. I mean, who's looking over your shoulder right now, that you can't see? 😲
BeautInside (3 stories) (326 posts)
+6
13 years ago (2011-09-27)
I knew you wouldn't let me down dusty 😁

When you say "...she would see a black mass at the ceiling in the adjacent dining room that would undulate while black scarf-like shapes would flutter in and out of the mass...", my guess is that maybe there was some sort of portal. I am no expert, but it reminds of what a portal may look like. And with all the stuff going on in the house I wouldn't be surprised.
champion (3 stories) (172 posts)
+3
13 years ago (2011-09-27)
dustyisdead- really enjoyed your story. Thanks for sharing and look forward to more.

Champion

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