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Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-18)
I finally read a story by Death Cry. I think that is the girl's title name zzsgranny called me by.

A note for zzsgranny. My name is not Death Cry. If you cannot read it is Rashidah. I will appreciate very much you do not call me by that name.

You would not like the name I will like to call you by. Trust me if I called you by that name the moderators will ban me from posting anymore comments.

I thank God I did not allow my friends to log into this site to tell you off. Shockingly all of them saw your post that 'mysteriously disappeared'.

That was really classy of you to use the poor girl's title name to refer to me😜. I am wondering if she deserved being called out like that when this story has nothing to do with her.
Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-18)
Gilgamesh I am interested in hearing more of your story. I am not doubting your experience. We all have different experiences and different accounts of those experiences.

Hooligan (Interesting title name) your post was very hilarious. I thank you for making me laugh this morning because I woke up in a bad mood. So should be grateful. πŸ˜†

You are such sad person. I do not even believe in the Anti-Christ πŸ˜† Christians have been waiting for this 'Anti-Christ' for over two thousand years 😲 I even heard some said that it was George Bush. This is a good example of Christian Paranoia.

Since you believe that I will birth the anti-christ I believe your next post should be to burn me alive since I will help destroy the world.

My dear please lay off the movies. I think Rosemary's baby has gone to your head. Funny how I never watched that crappy movie.

The word 'Anti-Christ' shockingly does not refer to One Person. It means anyone who is against Christ is termed an Anti-Christ. Please read up in history. There have been hundreds of people who were burned in the stake because the church thought them to be The Anti-Christ.

When Saint John wrote about the anti-christ he was referring to the Roman Emperor Nero because he was persecuting the christians at that time. Nero was the one who executed John. (It was in very gruesome Roman style) The jews at that time knew numerology and when they added up the greek words of the name Nero they got 666. Some scholars argue that it was 664.

So my Love:
No I do not think I am pregnant. I think it is stupid of you to believe that a human can get pregnant from a spirit.

Unless you know something better than me to share. If so submit your story and let me and others be the judge of that.
galvon (142 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-18)
scrapmetalkitten:

She doesn't has a relationschip with him but mere friendschip.

He is no lover to her either.
scrapmetalkitten (306 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-18)
What an interesting account. I read all of the posts and it seems like some people are dead set against you having a relationship with this spirit. I only say spirit because please be aware that just like a living person a spirit can say anything they want to like calling themselves Lucifer. However, I'm not saying that it isn't the spirit of Lucifer in some form either. I have had many paranormal experiences good and bad. You just need to decide if this spirit is something that is good or bad for your life in general. I just hope that he doesn't keep you from having a normal romantic relationship with a living person. In other words don't let the spirit be the main focus of your life or obsess over it above everything else. I have not encountered a spirit that called itself Lucifer, but I have read of other accounts of people who have. Your story is the first time I have heard of a positive encounter with him. I hope you find the answers you are seeking.

--Sydney
Hooligan (11 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-18)
So, I meet the one who will possibly birth the anti-christ? If he is THE Satan and not A Lucifer then the bible says he is pure evil, I don't know why God would have the bible be so wrong as to misjudge the most heinous person ever.
Gilgamesh (19 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-17)
Hi, I read this while at school because a few friends of mine are researching ghosts, hauntings, weird stories, etc cause we are going to start ghost hunting soon. Well anyways while reading this I became curious and wished to talk to you about this. You say this guardian angel is Lucifer/Satan/the devil? I do not wish to start any sort of argument but just last year some friends and I had a strange experience. For a long time we have been like magnets to spirits I guess you could say, but anyway we were walking down the road and there was only 3 of us but there were 4 shadows. I looked back down the road to see a man standing there (I will go into description later if you want me to). I then began to hear voices all around me in many different tounges a lot of which were not of this world. The man then spoke to me in this cold voice that paralyzed me and left me speechless for about an hour. During this though I heard another voice, I gentle voice, telling me this was the devil himself. I then followed the voices commands to run to this certain part in the road. There the sky lit up blue and a gust of wind blew this man away. Like dust. I have had more experiences with shadow people and satan's voice. I have also left out much to this story so if you need me to fill in holes I will. Again I am not wanting to start a fight only to conversate on this
blue_raven80 (13 stories) (338 posts)
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12 years ago (2010-05-17)
Why don't we just stop all of this and return to the happy family we used to? πŸ˜• if the 1st believes this side fine, let it be. If the 2nd believes this, so be it. We have choices to make and beliefs that are not understood by others. Let's just all be happy.

❀
Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-17)
yeah all the time when I get the chance too. He said that he is indeed a Guardian Angel to some people who wishes him to be and that the bible has a lot of contradictions in it.
For example the bible states:

"King of Babylon, bright morning star, you have fallen from heaven! In the past you conquered nations, but now you have been thrown to the ground." (Isaiah 14:12)

Everybody knows that the above is in reference to Lucifer. In fact, Lucifer means bright morning star, light-bearer, king of Babylon and Satan. Refer to the KJV Old Testament Hebrew Lexicon.

No other character in the entire Bible ever used or were given that title,"bright morning star" save Lucifer and JESUS! Yes, you heard me Jesus too...

"I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give witness to you of these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, the bright and morning star." (Revelations 22:16)

So to me this is confusion.

I am not totally comfortable in revealing anything more right now. Because I now a lot of people will be offended.
MistyVision (1 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-17)
I personally think that there is nothing wrong with you being with Lucifer. Have you ever asked him of his life? Just wondering.
God bless you,
MistyVision
Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-17)
I did expect people to trash. Especially the inexperienced ones. I can tell by the posts who are experienced and who just read a book and believe that they are experts.
I posted another story hours ago about another one of my experiences. I just have to wait until it is posted.
I would not be surprise about some of the comments that is going to be made.
Watch out for it.
It is going to shock many.
If you think this article has a lot of controversy in it, trust me the other one one just submitted I know for a fact is going to rock this page.
Midnight_Angel (3 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-17)
I do not understand everyone's fascination with deeming everything either Good or Evil. Then again I am only 15. I see ghosts all the time and they never seem to harm me. Dark or not. And I don't believe in the Bible so I am not deeming anything evil or good until I have solid proof. I wish all the close minded people would get off this story. Or at least read it. DONT COMMENT IMMMEDIATLY. Think it over, all the possibilities of this story. Think about what you want to say and if it is nessecary. If it is, then post it, but don't expect not to have someone trash it.
galvon (142 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-17)
to bad god is taken into evreything.

Try to make a nuetral post for once and not always bring god in the game.

And forcing your beliefs on someone is forcing to and many people did that in the past.

We say we know what evil and good is?.

But where did we learn it from? Out of ourselfs?.

While other races could have other terms of good and bad.

Like demons?. They could've learned it froma whole diffrent vieuw.

And let me comment.

Not all demons are from satan.
robertar (223 posts)
+1
12 years ago (2010-05-17)
The person talks a lot about the Church, leaders and the bible but never mentions having communed with Jesus the Christ.

Then rebukes someone for namecalling, then later calls the same person names... Had me laughing.

Best to pass this one by
whitebuffalo (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-17)
Rashidah,
I see and have tagged the comment Granny believes you are referring to.
Have YOU got a reference for me to look into, or are you submitting that that is the comment to which you referred?
Wa-do.
bnaredr3 (1 stories) (19 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-17)
Granny, I sent you a response to your comment on my story. I hope you read it.

Karima
Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-17)
In response to Eduardo and blue_raven 80.

I am very much aware of the biblical story of Lucifer's downfall. I just wanted to give him a chance to tell his side of the story from the horses mouth instead of just reading it from a book that has had alterations to it over the centuries. Hey the bible had way more than 66 books before as we know it today. And when I question pastors about it they say The Apocrypha Books are evil and that the church should not read them. That is why some people think it is not good to read The Catholic Bible because it has more than the basic 66 books. Which I find dumb because I have one and find nothing bad about it.
Do you all think it is fair to believe this shallow explanation?

I know spirits can be deceiving but so is people. I mean look what I read on a comment. And the person vehemently denied posting it. It was stupid of me not to print it out when I saw it. It would of put an end to that stupid debate.

The only way to find out if someone is deceiving you is to test them. And then again we may never know.

I will explain this.
One of my best friends was with a man for a year and thought she knew everything about him until his wife confronted her!
So I guess we may never know. And I ask the question. What makes the bible's story fool proof.

There have been contacts with people and spirits long before the bible came out and labeled them evil spirits.

Thank you so much for your posts. It is nice to hear from people who think beyond the box as you do.

Much Love
zzsgranny (18 stories) (3327 posts) mod
 
12 years ago (2010-05-17)
Whitebuffalo: I sent out two thank-you's...one to Bnaredr3 on his story "The Noises and a Shadow", one to Pjod on his story "Particles"...Both have yet to respond... Further down on Pjod's story, you will see the comment made about Death Cry, dated 2/26/10...I have absolutly NO idea about the other comment mentioned...
whitebuffalo (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-17)
I must say, I have just spent a pretty long time looking through past comments by both Granny and Rashidah in connection to this story, and I seem to be at a loss.
To be fair to both sides here, Rashidah, would you mind pointing out to me just WHERE you found a post of Granny's stating what you claim she called you?
And for the record: It IS true that when an American, in the age group that used the term "little booger", uses it in connection to another person, it is meant in an affectionate way. We use it as "You know what that little booger did?", when we COULD have said "You know what that whippersnapper/young 'en did?", kind of way, but the TERM can be interchangeable with any number of nouns to show a closeness.
I find it interesting that this comment should be brought up, when I do not see it anywhere in connection with this screen name or comment line. If you could assist me in finding it, perhaps we could clear up this whole mess and we could go back to being the friendly bantering family that we are here.
Wa-do.
Eduardo (2 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-17)
I am not here to try to offend anyone. Satan was in heaven with God. He was a beautiful creature but he like all of Gods beautiful creatures was created with free will, he began to want to be like God. That caused him to rebel so he lied to the other Angels and caused them to sin with him. In that same way he decieved Eve in the garden of Eden and in that same way he is decieving you. I believe your story and yes love is freedom but force is not compatible with love and deception is a form of force.
blue_raven80 (13 stories) (338 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-17)
Whooooaaaa! Just finished reading the story and all the comments. Rashidah I am not doubting nor believing you. It is up to you if you still want to buddy up with your Lucifer or not. Just be careful because to be honest, what proof did he gave you that he is from good and not from evil.

Everybody here is entitled to share all their views no matter where are they from. It is not the religion that will save us but it is our strong FAITH that will.

Just be careful of that lucifer hun. The devil can disguise.

I am not going to start an argument here, just wanted to be heard.

God Bless.
zzsgranny (18 stories) (3327 posts) mod
+1
12 years ago (2010-05-16)
Rashidah: okay... I call quits too... But for future reference: only the moderators can erase comments...

And please don't worry about me and my relationship with God... Like I told you before, only He knows what's in your heart...

Peace 😊
Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-16)
I really pray that God be With You.

And if anyone else on this site read what I read I pray that you be honest and come out and say so.

I am Done because this childish game with a woman over fifty is really boring and lame
zzsgranny (18 stories) (3327 posts) mod
 
12 years ago (2010-05-16)
Rashida: Did your friend show YOU the post or did you show your FRIEND?...There's another trait of Death Cry: contradicting herself...

Things that make you go "hhmmmmmm"
DARKNESS (3 stories) (2022 posts)
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12 years ago (2010-05-16)
Rashidah: I think you are jumping the gun a bit here! Zzsgranny is one of the nicest people on this website and I do not believe that she would intentionally say something that deserves a response like that from you.

Think it is time to maybe move on do we agree?

Dan
Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-16)
This is why I will never take advice from people like you.

You are pathetic. I thank God that my friend who showed me the post gave me good advice to move on.

I did not even know that you can erase comments made by people. But I will leave all the comments on my page even though I may not like some of them. I want people who read this story and the comments made to have an unbiased view on their own.

You can take your advice and put it you know where...

May Christ judge between you and I. Atleast I have tried my best to be honest. Even if I posted something offensive I was woman enough to apologize for it.
zzsgranny (18 stories) (3327 posts) mod
 
12 years ago (2010-05-16)
Rashidah: Please... You don't have any proof of your accusations... I NEVER said anything like that about YOU to anyone!...Unless we should go back to calling you Death Cry?...Am I the only one who sees this? 😊
Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-16)
Apparently you think that I am a stupid girl that cannot read and comprehend.

If I knew that you would of made up stuff like that I should of printed out the post with the recent date and you thanking the person for backing you up calling me A know It all and the response to that comment you made.

I remember showing my friend the comment you made on the computer. But then again I am probably insane unlike you.

I have no time to waste on this. So I am forgetting about it.

I really pray that God be with You
zzsgranny (18 stories) (3327 posts) mod
 
12 years ago (2010-05-16)
Rashidah: No, it's not right... But "little booger" is somewhat a term of endearment, so not a BAD thing... By the way, the dates of posts are on the right hand side of everyone's posts...So, unless you are that person who was so abusive to people trying to help her, back in February, that Martin chose to close her comments, then don't take offense... 😊
Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-16)
I have encountered evil spirits that use to hold me down in my bed and suffocate me. Lucifer never did anything to me and I feel protected and safe around him. That is why I assumed that he is good.
Then again as I said The Spirit Realm is very complex beyond explanation.

I am so sorry to hear that you only encountered the evil ones. And I pray that you never go through that horror again. I know exactly how you feel.

The experience of having a spirit torment me left a scar in my life. That is why I so vehemently rebuked Lucifer when he returned.
memento (2 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-16)
I think that you are sane, but I don't think that the spirit you are seeing is "the lucifer" the core of all evil.

If you talk to a spirit all the time, can you ask a question for me? Since I don't want to talk to spirits at all any more:)

I got attacked by spirits for many years, without having done anything wrong. Not like "booo" or anything. But like screaming my name, scrathing my skin, scaring my friends, flying over the window and so on...

After a while I started to "praise" this force, to get powers. And this worked until I choose to live in the light instead. But then I guess the spirits got a little bit mad, and have followed me 3 times were I haved lived.

When I "feel" this spirit, its nothing good about it. So why should you fell protected? What does he tell you?

It seems to me like the only thing they want is to take your energy away from you.
Rashidah (guest)
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12 years ago (2010-05-16)
Scene scene I hear you zzs granny πŸ€”. Anything you say. That does not make it right to call people those names. Even if "it was not me"
zzsgranny (18 stories) (3327 posts) mod
+1
12 years ago (2010-05-16)
Rashidah: That post about the little booger was someone else, a long time ago... Sorry if you thought I was refering to you... 😊
Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-16)
Jping thank you.

I have been immature and I thank you for showing me that fault of mine.

And for the record I have nothing against jews. One of my best friends is one and I love her more than I love myself😁

Hope to hear from you soon.❀

Today I was reading some articles and I saw that zzsgranny called me a 'little booger'

I have no idea what that means. I am guessing it is an American term. I thank God that I grew out of the habit of name calling. I guess some people never did.

Well I guess I should be thankful. She could of called me something worse. You are very entertaining πŸ˜†
JPing (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-16)
Rashidah, thank you for your apology. I only hope that in future you can lead by mature example and attempt to understand my perspective before completely dismissing it and insulting my value of freedom of speech.
Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-15)
Thanks a lot.
I would not believe everything he says just like that.

I understand that it is better to be safe than sorry.

And I have never experienced holy water working on anyone. It just sounds like a load of bull to me πŸ˜†

Spirits are a lot trickier than that despite what fiction movies portray them to be.
Easy (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-15)
Rashidah,i just have to say what an amazing story/experience this is and I'm very glad you shared it!

It gives us a totally different point of view,it's not like the "Quick,get the holly water and sprinkle him with it while I hold him back with my almighty cross!" tipe of stories that we all know and love:)

But...i don't believe in this a 100% (it's nothing personal!)

I mean,it's not like I don't believe you at all, cause I do! You've had this entity contact you in the past for some reason/s,after quite some time the netity came to you again and claims to be Lucifer and so far didn't harm you in any way, that I believe!
I just know from expirience that "other world" beings/entities have more knowledge and abilities than we do (spirit world, other dimensions, many times they have the abillity to read our thoughts, see the future and so on), so if it's in their nature they can easily convince people in lies, trick them and/or hurt them (again,i'm not saying that it's like that in this case,but...there's always that BUT...hahaha)

So,that's what I have to say for now 😁
I really do like the story though, and if you have more of them I'd be really happy if you'd share those too ❀

Btw english is not my first language so I'm sorry for all the mistakes if they were made, which probably were πŸ˜‰
Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-15)
I am very sorry to hear of your brother's death.

I sense that you are a very gifted person and that you will continuously discover new things about the spirit realm and help educate people about them.

That is why I love sharing experiences with people who are understanding. We learn new things from each other without fearing what people might say.

Someone has to make a bold step about their experiences without fear.

We can help people who think that they are alone in this.
galvon (142 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-15)
rash that's why I follow my own path.

Im balanced good and evil.

I listen and help I've gone trough alot.

So I help others out of my own expriences.

Im still heavily depressed but somehow demons fear me.

Its weird I know but they fear me somehow.

And the demons I met mostly feared me to but we're nice to me as if there something burried inside my soul.

Cause one day I'm good other day I'm like this sick minded person.

But what is realy good and what is realy bad?.

We make up the rules and sides?.

Sure but who says there right?.

We do out of our own morels etc.

I truely love those discussions.

Im currently 17 but already started researching certian thigns when I was 12 due to my gift.

Especialy after my brother died at the age of 28.
Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-15)
Hey you did research too on the sumerians. I thought I was the only one.
I found out that some of the stories that the bible has today actually came from sumeria. Like The Creation Story.
Sumeria is a lot older than christianity by thousands of years. That is why I believed those articles.

I have to say that when I was an extreme christian I called those researchers demons in human form. How dare they speak such blasphemy. And I use to wish they will burn in hell with 'The Devil'

I was so mean and judgmental then. Until I met Lucifer. I have changed from being narrow minded and very judgmental into actually listening and reasoning out things.

Even some of my friends say I am more approachable now than before. They had stopped talking to me because they thought I was one of those people who judged them according to a book. They said that they could not bare my self-righteousness.
I realized now that I was really mean and I learned not to jump to conclusions and to be more sensitive to their needs.
galvon (142 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-15)
i merely see the bible as a guide to life.

As if we follow the rules we know we do good and not hurt others.

Not do crimes to feed our jealousy or greed.

I do not believe in any.

But my mother is catholic and my brother in law islamatic.

But I both believe there sides for if I would just choose one where would the other be forgotten?. Just cause we choose something and decline something else just cause it can't be true?.

Note.

Angels fallen angels gaurdian angels.

There are a lot of diffrent types.

So are there diffrent types of demons.

Trust me I know what I speak off.

I've met them troughoutly trough my life.

And some demons don't even know they do wrong.

You know why?. There raised like that.

Its there way of living.

Just like we're raised to do that and that?.

Understand?.

Its not entirely the blame of a demon.

Its how he is raised and things he exprienced.

Just like we.

Our experiences changes us.

A demon can turn good I've seen and met some of them and they are great.

Some of them even remmember being human and try evreything to protect others and help them.

I've even readed a story a long time ago.

That a demon protected a kid from a fallen angel.

Dont judge just cause what a book says that has been changed many times.

The first creators of the bible we're actualy the sumerians.

It has been changed countless of times.

But I say believe in what you want I follow my own path and I accept others as how they are.
Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-15)
zazazaful I thank you for your posts and I understand your concern but I never encountered Christ the Being to hear his side of the story. But I know of others who did and I would not question their mental capacity. I believe them when they say He is truly God and Good. Some of them even said they actually saw the face of Christ (I wish I had that experience it would of been totally awesome to see him in real life)
The question is who is evil or good? There is one group saying that Christ is Good and Lucifer is totally evil and vice versa.
I think the best thing to do is test the both spirits and hopefully find the truth.
I have also heard of someone who saw The Blessed Mother appeared unto them. I am looking to interview that person to see if they are telling the truth.
Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-15)
I do not think I introduced my country properly. Sorry bout that.
Trinidad and our sister isle Tobago is so very beautiful. The people are very bubbly and happy. They go out their way to help each other. English is the state language but there are other people who speak french, spanish and patois (a form of French dialect). We have two seasons only: (Rainy and Sunny).
But we experience the sun mostly through the year. The beaches are gorgeous and are always packed with locals and foreigners.
Although we are a christian nation, 40% of the people are Hindus. There is also a large percentage of Muslims. But they are the decent types. Not the extremists in the middle east.
Our nation is very tolerant of everyone's beliefs and seek to live in unity with one another.
I LOVE MY COUNTRY 😊
vulcan10 (5 stories) (332 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-15)
That is all very amusing. And I'm sure it is to lucifer too. I find it highly unlikely that the leader of the fallen would see fit to make himself known to you. Any of the fallen, or all I should say, are liars, and they're only purpose is to kill steal and destroy. If you choose to buddy with them thought that's up to you. I'm sure when you get older no matter what faith you choose you'll have different ideas on this matter.
Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-15)
Jping why are you getting so worked up over this honey?

I asked you to send the article where Mel Gibson actually came out and said he was anti-Semitic. I am not interested in hearing about them says and hear says. I want facts. I still believe in his film. He is not the only one who studied the history of the jews and came out with these facts.
And because we speak out we are Anti-Semitic? That is ignorant.

If I was insulting I am very sorry honestly. I did not mean to hurt your feelings. If I did I will take the blame for it.

You told me 'up yours'
I have a very strong command of the english language and I would not stoop that low to use derogative words at you because I am not a little girl. I do not get angry at people at what they say and use those words. That tells me about your childish personality. This page is for mature people who I believe are respectful.

I am very sorry that we came off the wrong foot. Please forgive me and I am still interested in hearing from what you have to say. May Christ our Lord Bless You.

Much Love
JPing (guest)
+1
12 years ago (2010-05-15)
Rashidah, I found your reply to my post nothing short of insulting.

I was attempting to have a serious conversation with you. However, if slander is all you know then I will cease to comment on your stories.

"If he did not change the Judaic law then why do we today not offer up animal sacrifices anymore? Explain that please."

Because Jesus offered himself as the blood sacrifice for all mankind for the rest of eternity. I would have thought you would have known the answer to that.

"He refused to take bias stories from the church."

His film is heavily based on the Catholic Church's anti-semitic representation of the crucifixion.

Incidentally, there is appallingly little contemporary historical writings on the life of Jesus and not a single mention of him by historians who lived during his time.

"Mel gibson never came out and said that he was anti-Semitic."

Are you kidding me? Have you not heard of his famous drunken anti-semitic comments?

"You have a problem with free thought."

Up yours! That is completely uncalled for.
zazazaful (3 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-15)
by the way I don't go to churh or have a religion. I hate the system of following blindly, I have my own faith, and I love God and trust his teachings, but I will not worship him in some building and get brain-washed, be sides he is all around us, right? I haven't even read the bible, I only know the commandments, I know angelology, and no I don't worship angels. But I do recognize them and their heartship. I just think we should live through life with an open mind, out of the box, as you were saying. But I will not get manipulated, if anything gose against my lord, I'll listen to their piont of veiw out of sher couriosity, but still hold my belief that god knows best, he wants us to learn on our own not follow him blindly, if he wanted that he would have not given us choice huh? If lucifer is being nice to you, okay, but never forget god loves you most, that all bad things we live though make us stronger, that he is our ONLY lord. But I'm sure you know that since you use to belong to one of those...umm...buildings. By the way what kind of advice dose he give you? Just wondering how it would sound... But I wounldn't want to ask him, don't trust him aha πŸ€”
zazazaful (3 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-15)
umm...isn't he the most deceiving lier and most cunning, he knows everything, God loved him greatly and told him EVERY THING only he told Micheal his name and kept it from lucifer. He would use some commen sence and know just how to sooth you into trusting him, even loving him, he'll act so kind, loving and gentle...but...he hates us. Why didn't he want to love us like god wanted him too? If he did love us, then God wouldn't have cast him out for getting upset when he was commended to take care of us. We are evil, he saw this. Humans were born to sin, but it's our given choice to be understanding and love, God knows best, I'm not saying he is wrong in his veiws of us, some are really terrible, but those people are of a differnt state of mind from the more caring people, it's okay for you to trust him, because only because it is YOUR choice, but I will chose Not to, any one that gose against god, is not loving towards him, and all he wants for us is happeiness, what dose lucifer want for us? Since he opposes Gods veiw to protect us and love us, dose he want to hurt us and watch us suffer because humens are both good and EVIL, because he gave us the gift to live forever even though we could have the choice to go against him by sinning then ask for forgivness? He hates this fact, huh? Won't he earn our trust just to make us suffer? He scares me, not because of the stories, I was never exposed to the tales, I'm fearful of him because he didn't want to love us, he was angery against us for the love we got from god, he was once favored but now has been cast out. I feel sorry for him but I will never trust him since he went against god for that reason, he wanted his power? Was it to get rid of us? 😐 πŸ˜•
ZiShu (281 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-15)
mizzcrowley

Lucifer WAS an Angel of Light. What gives you the idea that he IS still currently an Angel of Light? Have you not heard of Fallen Angels?
Satan became an Angel of Dark after he was locked in Hell, and became king of demons as well.
The accounts I speak of are not "inner" events. Me and friends have witness many things that came from Satan and from Satan himself. A lot of these events we have experienced together. Forget this inside or inner stuff, Satan is real, and is here to take us away from God and to pull us into Hell.
Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-14)
I choose not to be specific because I realized that I am on a public web page full of skeptics. That is why I left my email address to does who actually experienced Lucifer. It is not wise to say everything to strangers. I feel more comfortable opening up more to my peers who would not judge me.
I was thinking about posting another experience but I changed my mind after reading some comments made by people who have not had an actual experience of him.

To me he appeared in a very beautiful form of a boy in my mirror. I guess he takes on many forms according to the person because I was thirteen then and I would feel naturally safer with the form of an innocent boy.

I am also at Grouply. Com so anyone can join that group and find me. It is a more personal group with people who have had actual experiences with the spiritual realm who I am very open around.

I am not upsetting anymore people with more of my experiences. I am not in the mood to read waste of time comments that are of no help to me in figuring my experience out.

Please email at rmawuta [at] yahoo.com and please be respectful as I respect everyone's experiences even if I may not believe them.

Some of the articles I read on this web sounds really funny but I would not tell the persons that because I was not there with them while they were having their encounters. I do not believe they lied. If they do it is was between them and God.

To be honest I was very surprised that my experience was posted because the heads of this web said that they were tired of some of the posts because they believed that they were made up by crazy teens (I think I understand where they are coming from because some of the articles are so...) so they were cutting down in some of the entries.

I am thankful at least that they believed my experience enough to post it.
Mosha (3 stories) (12 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-14)
I'm sorry but find it hard to believe he appeared to you. After all, why would he? My friend believed she encountered him too when she was walking home one night, of course she was on her own at the time so there was no witnesses. She tells me she heard him and she knows it was him, but she doesn't know how she knows it was him (She didn't know such things existed). Thats all she will tell me. Her parents have told me she arrived home hysterical and she wouldn't sleep for weeks.

I hope your safe my friend, and take care ❀
girl25 (5 stories) (28 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-14)
you are not specific rashidah. You are very general. You don't give details to believe your story. Like what... Did lucifer had horns when he appeared to you? Because his shadow in my wall was with horns! Or did he had a tail? He appeared as a human, as an animal or what?
girl25 (5 stories) (28 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-14)
Lucifer appeared to me, too. I was 18, I think, 6 or 7 years ago. As a shadow on the wall, in the mirror as a black figure, as a hand taking my bank card and the picture of virgin mary and jesus. Finally, my mother turned into satan. We were siting and talking with my mother when suddenly she tranformed for seconds. I was studying at university so she came and visited me. We slept together at the same bed. But this night, seven years ago, she turned into satan again when I was next to her at the bed. He was really hairy and black. But I felt so comfortable, so I hanged him and slept. Other things happened but they passed years, like strange smells from christian pictures. Now nothing is happening for over two years. Also I want to share another experience with lucifer. He did something in my head. I was thinking his name very strongly and I felt a burning hand entering my head. Like a finger entering my head. I want to say that lucifer is real and I want to ask rashidah how he appears to him. What he looks like.
Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-14)
I do not understand. What do you mean that he used you for five years and the darkness overshadowed you. Lucifer is a being of Light. Send me an email at rmawuta [at] yahoo.com and tell me your story if you are not comfortable posting it here. I want to hear it.

Thanks
RedShadows-n-BlackFlames (36 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-14)
No problem, and yes he knows many things. I was with him for roughly around five years until the over whemling darkness got to much for me to handle and when I was sadly used by him. I'm not saying what you are experiancing is wrong, I just don't want you to be finally useful to him and then get hurt later on... I just whanna be a friend not a critic.
Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-14)
I understand. I am aware of the stories of him being the ultimate evil and so on. I will be more cautious of him but I believe that he is a very wonderful being full of knowledge and that he was misunderstood.

But I will use more wisdom and drill some more questions at him and test him more. To make sure he is not deceiving me. I guess that is what life is all about. Gaining knowledge and testing its source.

Thank you for your input
RedShadows-n-BlackFlames (36 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-14)
yes some men of god do come off as they-are-better, and they are mostly wrong and the church isn't always the right way to go. But messing with lucifer can be tricky, yes he sometimes choses mortals but they might be a second motive then love. I saw him too, and was used by him to hurt another soul. Maybe he is good to you, but not to all of us. Just be careful, anyone can be tricky, and you are right he isn't bad, but he also isn't good...
Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-14)
Blind Faith is so pathetic. I have had experiences with pastors where I picked up that they were doing something wrong. When I spoke about it I got insults (just like from some of the comments I get on this page) telling me I will burn in hell for criticizing a Man of God only to find out for themselves.
And the sickening thing was to hear their apologies after that.
I learned that some of the most extreme christians that believe that they are above sin and reproach. Who are forever condemning people to hell has some of the nastiest, sickest secrets hidden by them from the public.
That is why I developed a Don't Care' attitude. I may come off as rude to people. But I am not being rude. I just tired of the hypocrisy of people.
bigC (4 stories) (80 posts)
+1
12 years ago (2010-05-14)
the point is to not follow blindly you have to question because then if you believe and have faith its because you have it not just cause it right or told to or grew up on it or and fear.
Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-14)
And for the record I do not think that you are evil. It is sad that some christians do.

I tell my christian peers not to take on anyone who says that you will burn in hell because you just have a simple theory that is different from the church. To me that is a method of control used by the church to keep people functioning as robots so they can always stay in control.

Thank God that times are changing and that people are getting wiser.
bigC (4 stories) (80 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-14)
sorry one more just thought I say that rashidah even though I got the creepy love the devil vibe when I first read the story but then I read the comments you and others have put and you pretty well enlightened I might not agree with everything you say but a lot is true.

I for one do not go to church because I've done my research into their different believes and their histories and some of it is just messed up on a whole other level like you said.

Plus the catholic itself not the people I don't like cause back hundreds of years ago we telling people that you are all going to HELL, UNLESS you give us your money now that just sounds like good old human greed there
Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-14)
I believe the bible is not entirely false bigC. I think it depends on research and what your intuition tells you.
The bible has some very good teachings about morals. The thing is I believe people are too gullible in believing all of the stories and forget that the bible is just a book of stories told by people who decided to share them. The bible is subjected to critiquing.
Thank you for your post. I think I will use it to do some more research. πŸ˜‰
bigC (4 stories) (80 posts)
+1
12 years ago (2010-05-14)
oh, also god is all powerful so he could have made lucifer just vanish from existence so christians like it or not god is also incharge of hell and lucifer is more of just a spokesperson for hell.

Just so you know I'm christian but to most I'm evil because I question every not just follow because I was told to or out of love or fear like most churchs. Most christians maybe know the words like their own name but few actually know the meaning of them.
Mervyn (1 stories) (10 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-14)
"He became my counsellor my teacher my friend and my lover" she also says she had other lovers. To me that sounds sexual.
bigC (4 stories) (80 posts)
+1
12 years ago (2010-05-14)
now in the bible somewhere it says god caste lucifer out of heaven because he Hated HUMANS and would not love them as god commanded so he was caste out or something very close anyways my point is that even if he isn't the EVIL being that the church says he Hates humanity so why would he love you. In honest I don't even believe in hell people create there own hell. I also don't believe the bible because it was created by man even if god told him the man was the one that wrote it.
IwanttoHelp (24 posts)
+1
12 years ago (2010-05-14)
Well if he is good to you people don't have to make problem of this right?
I'm also Christian but I think even Lucifer has a big meaning in our life remember that without all the bad stuff in our life we would'n learn anything.
πŸ˜• 😜
Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-14)
If you read my post you will realize that he does not food spoon me or hold my hand through life.
He would not encourage me in being dependent on him. He encourages me to think outside of the box and find out stuff on my own and stand on my own two feet.
If I whine about something he will usually get annoyed and tell me to Suck it Up and have some backbone and stop complaining.
He is like a parent that sends me out in this world to find out about life for myself and try to figure it out without just sitting in a room and allowing someone teach me everything and quote from them like if I am some dumb robot.
annaxagony (1 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-14)
...well then. Maybe it's a guradian angel? 1 thing is I know a lot about Satanism/Satan, and it wouldn't happen like that. Satan isn't the kind of guy who wants to hold your hand through life, you know?
MidnightRose (1 stories) (15 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-14)
Rashidah,

I have read some of the other posts and I would like to say this one thing... Follow your heart.
skytiger859 (8 posts)
+1
12 years ago (2010-05-14)
oh, you gotta be friggin' kidding me! You're that gullible?!?!
Rashidah (guest)
-1
12 years ago (2010-05-14)
My relationship with lucifer was not based on sexual needs. But Like I said I am not wasting my time answering ridiculous questions.

A note to Kryssey. It sounds like if you read one of those crazy grimoires on how Christians fantasize on what demons are so suppose to look like. And for the record I never said that I blame God for anything. If you choose to believe a demon that convinced you to believe that God is to blame for everything that is your issues. I hope you worked out everything fine with your life.

Jping use your good sense. That is what Christ did. He changed the Judaic Laws. He preached things that were totally different. If he did not change the Judaic law then why do we today not offer up animal sacrifices anymore? Explain that please.
You have a problem with Mel Gibson because unlike you he did historical research. He refused to take bias stories from the church. He actually went out of his way to search for the truth and expose it to the world. And to me I applaud him. You can go right ahead and applaud Judas. I will use your post in my bible study class to show my church the ignorance that is out in this world. Mel gibson never came out and said that he was anti-Semitic. If he did then post an article where he said that and stop making up dumb accusations just because you do not like him.
You have a problem with free thought.
DPez (5 stories) (37 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-14)
I'm curious, Randcan, where you got the impression that the relationship between "Lucifer" and Rash was a sexual one? I wasn't given that impression at all, so I'm not sure if I just skipped over that part of the story or not.
Randcan (62 posts)
-1
12 years ago (2010-05-14)
Only because I am openminded do I consider that you are having an actual relationship with a real entity. Religion aside... A being came to you and eventually had sex with you at a young age. Strike 1. The being claims to be of a certain famous identity, and you totally believe him. Strike 2. You believe an ArchAngel of enormous power has time to be getting a hard on with you. You're Out! If you're not schizophrenic, or a habitual liar, then you have an entity who is comparable to a child molester. He is not Lucifer. If Lucifer exists, he has better things to do. If he is powerful, and good, like he is good to you, then he should be out saving children from being tortured in people's basements, etc. Not laying around with you, chatting and having orgasms. In general, most likely, God is a nonperson. He is a system, of order, and balance, and with a type of "consciousness" that we cannot define. We shed our human body, then after some time in the afterlife, shed our spirit body, and progress upward in knowledge and purity. Knomes, half human looking/half animal, elementals, tulpas, etc etc., are real, and some are legitimate entities like us, on a path, and others are thoughtforms we've created. Either way, they have intentions. For all you know, this Lucifer could be a ghost of a charasmatic man who loves interacting/screwing young girls. If I had a relationship with a powerful entity, I'd tell her to get her as*! Out there and quit wasting time with me and help some children I know, or people screaming in pain in the local hospital. Talk about guilty sex, and wasting time shooting the breeze... Get out there! Who the hell am I? A dumb young kid, and you're millions of years old. Do you really want to play with the chimpanzee? (me). I heard what you got to say Lucifer, thanks for the religious instruction, now hit the pavement. And let's see some results. Otherwise I'm disgusting too. Every minute you waste with me, you could be "helping" (and probably screwing) someone else who really needs it. I aint your Virgin Mary. In fact, I aint no virgin anymore, thanks to you! LOL Take your erection made of ether to a Dolly Parton look alike who's died. In fact, how many virgins are you screwing right now, behind my back? Oh and Mr. Big, tell me I'm pretty again. The little boy at St. Jude Hospital getting a painful transfusion right now, can wait. [ If the Devil's real, and God too, they can both kiss my as*! ] What a setup we got here. They're "at war" and billions have to suffer for a millenia. What a crock. People - we're not here to learn anything. Learning is a consequence of being alive. We're here just to be incarnated; if only, for a second of life, in fetal, or at birth. Our spirit continues, and we get to the other side, where they DON'T have ALL the answers, and are trying to learn and understand more, and then... Move on and move upward. This is not a training ground, this a train station. We're only here to pass thru. Don't think that because you're still alive and reading this, that you're special. Or God has a plan For You (but not for poor Jimmy who got his head bashed in this morning by his Dad because he spilled his cereal). No, you're special, and God has something else in store FOR YOU. Prosperity to your bank account? Would you like that in large bills? He created a gazillioin galaxies and he has an interest to count out paper money. Or maybe he has a mission for you, or wants you to hang around and learn more - 'cos you're such a big thinker, especially when you're on the crapper. No people. YOU'RE JUST LUCKY - that you're the one - who didn't get hit by a truck last Tuesday! When a person dies at 5 or 10, what did they Learn? Zip. Those are just the breaks, of living on a rock hurdling through space. Accidents happen. Like your life, No rhyme or reason. You -PUT- the purpose in life, (or better, REALIZE IT and Live by it) if you want to. OR... You can sit on the couch and watch Family Guy forever and do nothing. It's up to you. But if you will, take an interest, (while you're waitin for the train/before you're out of here) then feel compassion for others and act on it... So that you can get on with the business of Feeling and Comprehending our INTERCONNECTIVITY (our true path and priority). What you do to someone, good or bad, you do to yourself. Our path is all one in the same. Respect for each other and creation. And action; overcoming laziness (in this hungry, horny, crapping body). Being inspired.
An animal or beast has base motivations. We are now wearing our human dress, and are responsible for higher aspects.
kardagen (2 stories) (161 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-14)
Alright, I almost did not comment, and now that I am I'm thinking I shouldn't, but I will anyway. Rash, do believe I in no way intend on attacking you, or your story, your belief, and experience is your own. Such an experience is beyond my scope as in my own belief there is no such entity as Lucifer. Certainly depending on which side of the glass you peer from. 'lucifer' maybe decieving you, from the other side he is trying to open your eyes. People have asked 'why you?' out of the billions of people, why not? Is what I ask. Why does...'god' choose to bless one, and seemingly ignore another? Who knows. As for your account I believe you have... Somthing with you. But its not for me to determine what/who it is. I wish you luck how ever this story unfolds. My two cents for what they are worth.
JPing (guest)
+1
12 years ago (2010-05-14)
"He came to preach Love and Forgiveness which is against Judaic law which preaches on an Eye foe an Eye and a Tooth for a Tooth."

Though I agree that the eye for an eye concept is entirely amoral and barbaric, Jesus himself said: "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them..." Matthew 5:17-20

It is for that reason that the bible still contains the Torah.

"So yip I guess Mel Gibson film was right."

Mel Gibson is a anti-semitic, fascist brute. His portrayal of the Jews in the Passion was explicitly intended to insight hatred towards them.

That Christians throughout history have felt the need to blame the Jews for Christ's death is entirely illogical. As is their condemnation of Judas.

Someone had to do it! If Judas had not betrayed Jesus and the Jews not killed him then he would not be your saviour, would he!?

So on behalf of all Christians I would like to applaud Judas and those Jews.
DPez (5 stories) (37 posts)
+1
12 years ago (2010-05-14)
Wow, thank you for sharing your story. I'm really intrigued. When I was attending church at a younger age, I often asked my church leaders why Lucifer was the ultimate evil. What happened? What proof does anyone have that it was really Lucifer? And they always told me to find my answers in the "Good Book."
But then I posed the question, what if God is the trickster? Naturally, I was told that that was blasphemy and have since lost touch with the church. I'm still spiritual, just not Christian.

I'm curious about the nature of your conversation with Lucifer. Such as, if you ever covered topics like the true evil, and other things that are taught by the Church? When you were 13, what convinced you that Lucifer was not trying to trick you? You said that when he appeared to you the second time, you were wary. But it seems implied that you already knew about the "supposed" evil of Lucifer before he contacted you when you were 13. Why didn't you react in the same way then?
GingerTea (1 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-14)
I'm not claiming anything myself, but I have -heard- stories where people see someone claiming to be Lucifer, but the only thing "he" does is say something like "I'm not a bad guy" or "I'm not terrible" and then disappear.
Again, I have NO PERSONAL EXPERIENCE to back me up, this is just something I've HEARD.
fatthead (1 stories) (55 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-14)
settle down folks its all good everyone is entitled to there opinion good goly miss moly
fatthead (1 stories) (55 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-14)
is lucifer white black mexican what musilm and you seem like a sane person so man I tripin you may belewve what you say but I don't think so hes trickin you
Kryssey (1 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
I fear your angel is misguiding you, my dear. We want to believe and have faith in the one's we speak to from other realms so much that we buy into the BS they try to feed us. I myself have experienced what you experienced. My luck improved, I was given a lot of advise on personal issues, work issues, etc. My demon was not Lucifer but his best friend; Beelzebub. He appeared to me as a pig with red eyes the first time we met (as I was a in-tuned child). He convinced me that religion was essentially HOGWASH and lies in order to manipulate people into believing God was good. He interpreted to me that God was not a good spirit - one who dwells among sadness and misery. He is jealous...etc. The same description Greeks used to describe Zeus. Angels created in perfection often would tell our God that he was wrong and thereby he cast them out for not having faith in his approach. I bought into all of it. But it was people of faith who shown me the light. The demon stopped visiting me and my luck worsened. I lost my job, my home, my car, my friends, and my family. He came back and said; "This is what you God is doing to you! I can take away your pain again. I can give you all the riches of the world - just believe in me!" I closed my eyes and prayed to Jesus. The demon was in my head and took a long time to finally leave. I only give him credit for showing me what is said about demons is true. They lie! My misfortunes were mine alone... God didn't do that to me! Though I may not go to church currently, I know whom to hold my faith in. And I am proud to say that I steer clear of the dark side - though the dark side will always linger; hoping I will join them some day.
DARKNESS (3 stories) (2022 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
Phwoarr just finish reading this story and immediately I thought this is going to get some good responses, I think I might stay out of this one but thank you for posting your story.

Dan
Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
Please be free to enlighten us about the jews. Any corrections will be welcomed by me.

People who do not study history do not know that Lucifer is a Roman God of Wisdom and knowledge. When christianity now started to flourish they saw This roman god was competition to their God and decided to labelled him Satan (adversary). All other Gods and Goddesses were also labelled demons by the Catholic Church.
If the people at the time refused to stop worshipping them the christians will burn, torture, rape and kill them.
It does not take a rocket scientist to get hold on any article on the history of the gruesomeness of the church. Even in trinidad and Tobago the Spanish Christian Crusaders killed out the indigenous people using The Name of Christ. That is pretty sick.
The most embarrassing thing to ever happen to the church was The Inquisition and well now Pedophiliacs (God help Us Please). I would not even go there now because I will seriously vomit. Maybe some other time because that topic really hit home.

But past is past. I thank God that we now live in the information age and that we will not be harrassed just because we speak of stuff that are outside of the church.

After knowing all of this it is a great wonder why I am still a christian. I still know Christ is Love despite what his so called paranoid followers did.

Because of Christ I hold no grudges. And if Lucifer still wants to keep communicating with me so be it.

Only Christ can judge me. That does not make me less of a christian. But I will not go on Blind Faith. I deal with experiences and facts that back them up. I do not have time to waste on those who want to get all emotional and tralala.

Tell me something solid. Not superstitious nonsense.
mizzcrowley (8 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
[at] ZiShu So I take it you have been approached by demons and this is how you know about it? Or did you read this somewhere?
Where do you get that Satan tries to win our trust? I can't even recall any bible verses that say that. There is that Satan will appear as an angel of light, and this is a very tricky comment, as He IS an angel of light.
How were you and your friend "ruined by Satan"? I'd like to read some of your experiences. Demons tried to kill you? I really can't comment much without knowing the circumstances. People have many "inner demons" that are much more destructive, depending on their self-awareness.
Demons say Satan is a horrible boss? You sound like you were privy to some "inside" conversations. If so, how did you come to have them and how do you know you "heard" accurately?
Just asking. There are so many different ways to experience and perceive the other realms. I try to sort out what is an experience, what type of experience and if it is colored by hearsay from reading or human teachers. And we all must beware of the actions of our Egos.
I mean I enjoyed the Screwtape Letters and Lord Foulgrin, but I realize these are fictional books.
mizzcrowley (8 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
I read through your account Rashidah and your comments. From my experience with this entity, what you are relating appears very accurate. I can look at it as nothing else but genuine.
People tend to look with skepticism at such a rare experience and because they haven't had it and don't know anyone who has, they freeze up and prejudge that the person must be insane. Frankly, most religious experiences of any kind border on insanity because they go beyond the normal mundane perceptions of human beings on into the supernal (other realms).
Most Christians mistake this entity "Lucifer" with the Greek god's name, but really is it more of a title or descriptive adjective than a proper name. Although many deity names are just that, descriptive adjectives. Such as the names of the god of the Torah. I have looked at the oldest accounts written even similar to the "Lucifer account" that Christians have come to apply to and believe is in the bible. It isn't in the bible.
There are many more complications to this than most people realize. Including the one that evil demons are following you around.
I know I can't fit it all into this one post, so I'll close and post again. I'd like to verify in my next post, many of the characteristics and behavior of the entity you describe.
I would also like to address some of the misconceptions I have read here regarding the Jews.
ZiShu (281 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
You do remember that we are told Satan will do anything to gain our trust just to fool us right? All Devils including Satan will approach us with the most comfortable forms and try to become our best friends.
I'm sorry but it seems Satan's plan worked, he pulled you away from the truth of God.
Me and a very good friend of mine have actually been ruined by Satan in the past and currently. He has tried to take our lives many times by sending many demons and devils to kill us. Satan trustworthy? NO! Even the Devils with a heart that work for him say he is a horrible "boss". Which is why they try to leave him.
Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
Sorry for the typo I meant that you made the statement that all demons are not evil. That is how I know that you have indeed have had real experiences the spiritual realm.
Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
And galvon you are right. I believe that you have had actual experience when you made the statement that all demons are evil.
It is ignorant for people to believe that all demons are evil. The inexperience usually make that statement.
It is sad that they believe it.
The spiritual world is not Black and White. It is very complex and you can never know everything about it by just reading one book and listening to hand Me Down Stories.
Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
My church believe that he may have looked like an Arab. Jews are a mixed race not purely white. I read some historical articles on the net that stated that he preached in Saudi Arabia. But it is not mentioned in the bible.

I think it is wise to go with history.
MissHill (6 stories) (67 posts)
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12 years ago (2010-05-13)
Well I said this would be interesting!

And galvon, you where talking about witches being looked down on, I'm not sure how far back you where thinking but for thousands of years, before and after Jesus in a lot of places they where pagan, they didn't worship God as people know it today, they worshiped many gods and goddesses for many different things, every one had there different ones, Greeks, Romans, Celts, welsh, the worship of multiple gods and 'witchcraft' has been going on a lot longer than Jesus.

Time to throw in another spanner, has anyone though about the fact that Jesus was born in the middle east? And he would have looked like all other Middle Eastern men do, and not this white perfect man?
Rashidah (guest)
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12 years ago (2010-05-13)
bnaredr3 I was not aware that you asked me a question.
Or is that how they taught you at school to ask questions?
Why don't you ask yourself if you really experienced what you experienced in your story... Or was it a hallucination? What was it about shadows and particles? Some people in Trinidad might think you have lost your mind or something.

But shockingly I do not think so only on the fact that I was not there with you to see if you made it up. So I cannot say that you were lying.

I thought you were wasting your precious minutes typing to me.

I never asked you to comment. You put it upon yourself to do so. No one forced you too.

If I choose to ignore you and not waste my time answering your ridiculous questions that is my choice.

Sheeesh your people are so tiring. I am only putting myself through this only to find people who have had experiences.
To me it is worth the drama.

You expect people to believe you on whatever you post and find other posts are a waste of your time... Oh please who do you think you are?
galvon (142 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
ofcoursely I do not wana answer for her.

But I do not wana see endless bikerings.

That have no contribution to the current story or anything related.

To draw religious standvieuws etc.

And the person meanings of there words is something diffrent.

So your literly not helping her with her story/situation.
galvon (142 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
bnaredr3:.

I understand what your saying but she was just saying that due to the majority of those people being so judgemental and some of them pushing there religious vieuws so far its drives others crazy.

It wasn't totaly meant as an insult.

As for the bible teachings.

Evreyone has a diffrent vieuw aswell as a diffrent standing point of teaching.

She has made up her mind and teaches those children as she thinks is right.
galvon (142 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
i rarely post on those stories to due to the judgemental and overly skeptic people that need proof for evreything.

So you know I'm quite fascinated by your story and your expriences and wish to learn more from your side.
bnaredr3 (1 stories) (19 posts)
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12 years ago (2010-05-13)
You didn't answer my question...

You say "I am so sick of christians with their holier than thou attitudes"...but in another post you mention that you give bible study to teens...well, do you believe in the bible or not?...make up your mind...

Granny brought up a good point. You'll be amazed how much you can learn if you were open and consider different opinions.
galvon (142 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
i've added your add.

Ad mine.

Michaeltegelaar1992[at]hotmail.com
Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
Thank you. Email me at rmawuta [at] yahoo.com

I am so sick of christians with their holier than thou attitudes.

I hope to learn a lot from your experiences with the spiritual realm.
galvon (142 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
rashida I might like to talk with you sometime.

As at younger ages I was alread intrested in the paramoral and the blood in my family is what makes me see things and feel.

Even see things in dreams and have visions.

I would like to talk to you about some experiences and shed some light on eachothers problems of nowaday judgemental people.

And most people let themselfs be led by emotiones while believing in god.

So some of there religios standing points can be extreme.

Best is to ignore those and only response on the most logic ones but your already doing that.

So I know I'm dealing with a person with a high enough IQ to know what reality is.

Thats why I believe you as the way about you speak about it.
Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
I did not boot you off in the first place. You choose to say 'I will not return' because you did not like what I said.

Please make up your mind.

But I am sorry if I came out judgmental.

But is it judgmental to say that I need to do some soul searching. Who are you to tell people that they need God? You are not a saint.

You are not holier than I am and I am not holier than anyone.

I believe that I am a good person and I love everyone. I do not believe in holding grudges.

If I choose not take your advice then that should not be your problem.

If that bothers you then I believe you will to get over it because I we are all mature people.
galvon (142 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
i believe in gods etc.

But I do not have a relligious believe.

I totaly believe you rashida.

As people nowadays judge others so fastly in the old ages they judged other dark figures as witches only cause they we're darker and outcasts of the rest they got judged wrongly.

Just like nowaday demons it doesn't mean they're all evil and twisted.

I've met some demons that try evreything to protect a human family or a bunch of animals.

Just cause they love them not all are filled with hate.

An lucifer can be both things good and evil.

So can god.

Perfection doesn't exist not even for a god.

For he made us as his mirroring and we still can't undrstand why we do the things we actualy do.
justin102798 (9 stories) (96 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
Hi. I know you may think of him as your guardian angel, but I warn you: you need to be careful... That's all I have to say.
For now.

God bless!
zzsgranny (18 stories) (3327 posts) mod
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12 years ago (2010-05-13)
Rashidah: You answered questions that were posed by me, however, to another poster... I never said that I did not believe you, or that you are mental, nor was I judging you in any way... How can one assist another when simple questions are misinterpreted as coming from a "childish, closed minded, ignorant American"...Your words... Which by the way, I interpret as being "judgemental"! πŸ˜†

I find it fascinating how people react when their hypocracy is pointed out to them... You thump your Bible, and then have sex with Lucifer... May I suggest you do some "soul-searching"...Is God really in your heart, or just your mind?...Ultimately, only He knows...

Sorry if I have offended you, and I promise, I will not return...

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