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Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
I do not know. I really wish I can tell you. I guess life is so complex. This experience with him totally rocked my world. I was scared to tell anyone about it for months. Thank God I have friends who actually listened to me. Some were skeptical (I mean come on let us be real the church says he is the devil). But they did not judge me so I gain the strength from them to be more open.
I am pretty sure I am not the first person who met him. I know of people (but they are few in number) that have had a positive experience with him).
And I know people who have had terrible experiences with him.

I can only tell you my experience not theirs. I am not sharing anyone's experiences out of respect for them because they know the reaction of the masses. When they are ready they will do it themselves.

I believe when St. Paul told Timothy to test all things and scriptures. So I tested him and I did not find any fault with him. All I can say is that he is a very loving being out of what I experience.

And I found this webpage by accident and decided to share my experience.

Hey this site is something else. I read some stories that blew my mind. I did not know so much people have had experiences with the supernatural. I should tell my friends about this site. They will be amazed but very cautious. In Trinidad people are very very cautious about experiences outside of the church
Pjod (3 stories) (978 posts)
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12 years ago (2010-05-13)
I have a question
What makes you so sure that this Lucifer has all good intentions for you? Why you?
Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
I did not say I believe that if you speak out against gays and porn (well to me find porn to be de-feminizing and disgusting) and other stuff that you are being is closed minded. I believe in freedom of speech and that everyone should be heard in a respectful manner.
The reason why I riskede posting my experience was to find someone who have had real life experiences with the spirit world so I can talk to and get advice.
You cannot blame me if I refuse to listen to people who think I am making it up or who think I am confuse or mentally ill and so on.
To it would not make sense paying them any attention. I learned this from some of the youths I counsil. If you are to rash to jump to conclusions they would not bother telling anyone anything.
I think you can learn a lot from teens 😆
I think I made a mistake sharing this on this site. I should of used more wisdom and kept my experience to myself and my close friends. I just thought Americans would of been less ignorant.
I am sorry if you all misinterpreted me.
I will take all of you'll comments you made into consideration.
bnaredr3 (1 stories) (19 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
It seems you're more troubled then you think...
Completely agree with Pjod and granny... Usually when people proclaim over and over "I'M NOT MAKING THIS UP", it turns out to be made up.
Enough said, already wasted 2 precious minutes of my life writing this post.
p.s. If I told you I can make people disappeared by simply looking at them... Would you believe me?... Without questions?
chopis (78 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
Well, I just want to say that this sounds to me like the comments about being open mind about gays, lesbians, porno etc... We (Christians) have to agree with everyone's else believes and life styles or be called "short minded", and if we show our believes, then, we are "old fashion, short minded people"...guess the world is a better place now that we are so freely open?, 😕, good for you if you want to hang out with your friend "Lucifer" and to bad that you found your experience at the church so bad, me personally, I'm not a church goer, I only believe what I believe is good, so to each their own.
Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
No my dear it is the jews. They wanted him dead since his display at the synagogue where he trashed the place because he did not want them selling in his father's house.
The jews saw him as a threat because Christ was teaching things that are completely different from The Judaic laws that were bondage.
He came to preach Love and Forgiveness which is against Judaic law which preaches on an Eye foe an Eye and a Tooth for a Tooth.
Christ is truly Love and I love him too.

So yip I guess Mel Gibson film was right. And that is why the jew population was offended with the film and called him crazy too.
I am so sorry if I sound a little mean but I am kind of tired of people who do not know me calling me confuse just because I am different. In my country there is a lot of prejudice. So I learned to toughen up by force.
But please continue. I want to hear more from you. I did not mean to sound narrow minded.
I am a kind of of person who thinks outside the box and want to learn more in life.
Pjod (3 stories) (978 posts)
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12 years ago (2010-05-13)
Rashi,
you are all over the place. I simply gave my impressions of your posted story, and how very similiar they are to other case studies out there, that have not turned out well for the oppressed. Yes, I know, you do not fit into the catagory, as you are not oppressed. Neither were the subjects in other cases, for a long time.
Ah, but maybe yours is the exception, and this Lucifer, has nothing but good intentions. That seems to be what you want to hear--
just one thing. The Romans crucified Christ. A teacher of the Bible should know the difference, no? 😊
Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
I am not confuse my dear. Lucifer never hurt me and I think some of your comments were based on paranoia and superstitions. That is why I love Lucifer because he encourages me not to take hand me down stories from people who think I am crazy because have had a different experience from their own. Hey the Jews called christ crazy too and they crucified him. Lucifer encourages research. So I am not ignorant. I love science and I turn to it when I am not able to figure out something.
I find people should not judge others as the bible say. Only God can judge me because He is perfect and he knows me better than anyone else.
I am sorry if anyone is offended but the bible said to be completely honest no matter what.
I thank God everyday for the freedom of Speech. That is something my ancestors did not get the opportunity to experience.
Whoever feels offended and chooses to leave my page I say you are pretty childish because you will always meet people who experience differs from yours.
Chocolata (I like that name:) thank you for sharing your experience (I finally met someone who is not judgmental). I am interested in hearing more from you. If you want to talk to me personally please email me at rmawuta [at] yahoo.com
And Pjod get a grip on yourself. I am not a foolish little girl as you think. I am 24 years and I teach Bible study. So I know hell of a lot of The Word and Christian History and Mythology. And I love y church. Lucifer never came between me and my salvation.
Please continue your comments. I love challenges. I embrace them.
chocolata (2 stories) (22 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
jpod you are right we really don't know, but I do know mine was real since my mother actually saw with her own eyes and actually took me to church to get exorcised nothing worked, everyone that was around me was terrified since I had developed some kind of strenght to make wierd things happened and it all ended when I decided that what I was doing was wrong, and believe me when people are evil inside they can be evil on the outside, specially when you have it in your genes. But don't worry I'm okay now with 3 kids and praying to god that they never encounter evil things like I did.
Pjod (3 stories) (978 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
I will read your story, and no longer post in Rashidah's thread... As no longer be a pest in her quest. 😁
Pjod (3 stories) (978 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
in response, Chocolat...
I'm glad to hear you no longer have to endure this type evil in your life. From what I understand, not an easy thing to shake... And every exorcist says the same thing. It is not the process of getting rid of evil that is the most difficult-- it is the lifestyle change the victim must make, and stick to, in order to remain free of the relapse of evil.
chocolata (2 stories) (22 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
jpod
look up My father's visit after death. And I saw my father's death before time.
Pjod (3 stories) (978 posts)
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12 years ago (2010-05-13)
chocolata,
I don't think anyone is calling Rash crazy. You seem to be certain that these visits she has had are not in her head. That would be impossible, as you don't know her at all. You have had similiar visits, I know. Yours may be real, while hers imagined... Or vise versa. The point is, we here, all of us, have no way of knowing. Were the two of you able to both recognize the same pieces of jewelry this young man happened to be wearing? No, of course not. Get my point? Assuming both your experiences are real-- I would tread very lightly in the future, as many, many cases I have look at, begin like this, never ending well.
chocolata (2 stories) (22 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
jpod
My father's background is full of evil and I had started following in his footsteps when I was younger, then I realized that I was doing all the wrong things which means that I actually had something bad going on when the man left I became suicidal and depressed and I would wake up every morning around 3.30 am to an extreme pain in my abdomen and you could actually see something moving in there like if I was pregnant, which was impossible since my mom had taken me to the doctor and found out I physically was still a virgin. It all ended when I really became pregnant with my first child and that is when I realized that what I was sleeping with was a demon and nothing else. Not christian but do believe in God, and thank God that I no longer have those experiences 😊
Pjod (3 stories) (978 posts)
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12 years ago (2010-05-13)
Rash,
check out a book called Dark Sacrament. You will find some case studies--similiar in nature to your own-- cases documented in Ireland, alone.
Chocolata,
The fact that you have family with such a history as occult worship, does not surprise me, after hearing a little bit of your similiar story (similiar as Rash.)
There are many cases labled "Ancestral Evil"--where the victim, because of his/her family background, became the focus of much evil.
Rash,
since you seem somewhat unwilling to respond to other posters questions (not my own--I have heard enough to form my own idea of what may be going on) I'm afraid you are leaving yourself ignorant of some good advice, as there are a few folks here, while may not have had the same experience--you seem to be after--could certainly help you at least get a diff perspective on things--as you are obviously a bit confused.
good luck!
chocolata (2 stories) (22 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
Rashida I'm so sorry I had not read your comments from other people and let me tell you they have nothing to account for and it seems that they think that because you had an experience you are crazy, believe me you are not. I totally believe you and like you said there is no point in making up stories. You are not alone. 😠 😊
chocolata (2 stories) (22 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
by the way I am from Belize. I come from two different backgrounds on my mother's side it's mostly christians and from my father's side almost all of them are devil worshipers I am in the middle I believe in god but not in religion I am agnostic. 😕
chocolata (2 stories) (22 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
Hi I read your story and I can honestly say that what happened to me is almost similar to your experience, it happened when I was 14 I was sleeping in my room, my door was locked and my windows too but for some reason I would have encounters with a very handsome man, he was around his early 20's I was kind of afraid at the begining but after a few seconds I would feel this urge in my body and I would just surender to him. Do you think this was normal? I will post my story later when I'm able to, look out for "Visits from a strange man"
zzsgranny (18 stories) (3327 posts) mod
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12 years ago (2010-05-13)
Rashida: Thank you for the clarification... I won't be back
Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
I did not post this personal account to convince anyone. Like I said I could really careless if people do not believe me. Everyone has a right to express their beliefs.
I find making up stuff to be retarded. I have better things to do with my life to than up stories. But I appreciate the comments though.
I am still looking for some one who have had similar experiences like my own.
Please email me if you have had that experience so we can talk about it.
I will greatly appreciate it.

Thanks a lot
Rashidah
zzsgranny (18 stories) (3327 posts) mod
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12 years ago (2010-05-13)
Rashida: Also, one point I'm hoping you can clarify: In your comment, you stated, "we as Christians have been misled by the Bible", but twice you cited it as proof that 1: Lucifer still visits heaven, and 2:the name "Lucifer" is never mentioned... So I pose this question: Do you or do you NOT believe the Bible?...

I'm sorry if I have offended you, just need clarification...

JPing: That is the way the story goes, the one I heard anyway... Lucifer wasn't trying to wrest control of the throne, he merely opposed God's wishes, and for that, he and all the other angels who agreed with him were expelled from heaven... NEVER to return... It is from latter teachings, and others interpretations that we get the idea that Lucifer is completely evil, because of a so called vendetta against God...It's that "I'll show you" attitude that a rebellious teenager gives when they oppose a form of disipline from their parents...

Still out on this though 🤔
Pjod (3 stories) (978 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
in response to Jping... Interesting post. A diff perspective... I believe we are all here to experience in the flesh, to further our spiritual growth, getting closer to God. We come down here, already with the knowledge that we will suffer... But learn while going through it. If the good lord were to intervene in such a situation, our spirits would never gain the knowledge that we came down here for. After countless lives/experiences...perhaps then we will not need to any longer come down and live the human experience.
JPing (guest)
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12 years ago (2010-05-13)
I'm not inclined to believe you outright about your experience, Rashidah. Though I would like to bring up another point concerning the Lucifer character which I believe is relevant to your story.

How exactly can anybody be so sure that Lucifer is evil and Yahweh is good?

Neither the Bible nor the Qur'an provide us with a detailed account of the Devil's perspective involving his revolt against heaven.

I am given to understand that the Qur'an says that Lucifer felt offended by the notion that humanity was God's finest creation and refused to bow down to what he considered 'inferior beings'.

However, in the entirety of the bible, Satan is attributed with only a single murder. Albeit, one he was given permission to do by God. God on the other hand is responsible for millions of deaths.

So I ask, how do we know which is truly the evil one?

Having said all that I would like to add that I don't believe in any of it. I appreciate it from a purely fictional perspective.

While I'm at it I would like to quote Epicurus:

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"
Pjod (3 stories) (978 posts)
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12 years ago (2010-05-13)
no offense Rash, but I do question your mental stability. Many people see/hear things that aren't there. I don't know if most of these people are actually seeing/hearing someone or something that is real or imagined. Same goes for your case. I don't expect you to try and convince the skeptic, that what you have seen is real, as it may very well be real TO YOU.
Just a warning. Most cases like these, that turn out to be real, often do not turn out well for human involved. In fact, there are countless such cases, that have started out very much like yours, that ends in very much the same way. My guess is, be it real, you will have a price to pay, in the end. When something seems to good to be true, always turns out to be a price tag attached.
This being does not want anything in return but your love? Don't believe it, not for a minute. I'm afraid, if this being is real, you are in for quite a ride.
Thumpersgirl (33 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
zzsgranny said what I'd intended to say. And y'all are right about the rebuking, I wasn't thinking clearly when I typed that. Mommy brain strikes at the perfect time to make me sound dumb yet again lol. Could you explain this relationship in greater detail? I'd like to understand it a bit better. Oh, & this is totally off subject, but I've always wanted to go to Trinidad. Is it really as beautiful as its made out to be? Thank you.
zzsgranny (18 stories) (3327 posts) mod
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12 years ago (2010-05-13)
Rashidah: I don't think we've been misled by the bible, but rather the people who've construed the words to fit their own interpretation...I'm sure it's the same with the qu'ran...

I agree with JPing, Lucifer is not afraid of words spoken in God's name... He MAY fear God, but you said yourself that your faith in your religion was weak, and therefore, so was the force behind your words... He saw right through...

This relatioship has me puzzled... I can't figure out why THE Lucifer would bother with any one of this realm... I mean, he's got his lackies to do the dirty work for him... And I mean no offense, but what makes YOU so special?...And what, pray tell, is he teaching you?

Personally, I wouldn't want to have a close relationship with ANYONE who calls himself "Lucifer"...
JPing (guest)
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12 years ago (2010-05-13)
Thumpersgirl, to run from God/the name of God is completely out of character for the Lucifer/Satan character.

He is after all the one who rebelled against God along with half the angels in heaven (so the story goes). He's no coward.
Rashidah (guest)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
Thumpersgirl thank you for your input. But from my experience with Lucifer he still ventures into heaven to meet God as stated in the book of Job. That does not sound like a being that flees from the presence of God to me.
I am just saying that I realized that we as Christians have been mislead by the bible. Remember the bible has been tampered with for centuries with a lot of books being taken out of it.
But I understand where you are coming from. The name Lucifer is not mentioned in the bible. I think Christians attributed the name Satan to him out of ignorance.
Thumpersgirl (33 posts)
 
12 years ago (2010-05-13)
This is a very interesting account. Now, I'm not saying I don't believe you, but I do have a possible point to bring up. I've only been a Christian for 9 & half years, so I'm no expert, but I've never heard or read that angels don't share names. How many Americans haven't gone to school with 5 Jessicas & slews of Smiths, Browns, etc? This could be an entirely different Lucifer than the one that comes to mind. Or a ghost whose parents named him as such when he was alive. Because if this Lucifer was Satan, he would've had to leave when you rebuked him. I'm not saying I'm right or you're wrong, I'm just putting out some food for thought. Thank you for your story.
MissHill (6 stories) (67 posts)
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12 years ago (2010-05-13)
This is very interesting, and I thank you for telling it, and I am also interested in the comments that will be received,

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