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"[at] MyChaoticPeace: Roger and I have been dating for nine months now. I'm...to be honest, I doubt sometimes just how real it all is. Because if you think it through as being real, sure it works, but if you think it through as being fake, it makes more sense. As far as for his protection, I don't think he's done anything. Which scares me somewhat, but I think he's as clueless as I am. Which is why I posted here, to get an idea."

No way, if you follow the play by play it doesn't. You just have to step out of the emotional aspects of this to really get a good look. He said 'John' was his ex love who died in a car accident, you ask around or it comes up in convo and suddenly he doesn't exist. 'John' suddenly wants to kill Roger and makes a random deal that he doesn't follow through with just in the nick of time? 'Sarah' the innocent by stander speaks in 'Johns' defense knowing 'John' has abused Roger on many different levels? No, that's not right. If 'Sarah' was a innocent spirit she wouldn't be ok with that type of behavior. 'Sarah' knows too much to be innocent, and doesn't act in a 'good' way by allowing and advocating 'John' to act as such.

Look 9 months isn't as long as you think. I was with a man for two years and was fooled into his craziness and it all seems real because they say it with such conviction but that doesn't mean it is.

Be careful which friends you ask and how you ask questions. For me his (My ex) friend supported him. It wasn't until his friend got a crush on me and tried to get with me that I found out the true whole story. Make sure you ask the questions innocently enough to ask multiple friends quickly. If they are the type that'll discuss and support their friend (like my case) for whatever reason you want to make sure they don't have time to match up. Perhaps you should really sit and talk to his parents too. Tell them you're just concerned for his safety (and yours of course). They might be able to give you some in site into any trends that might have lead up to this sort of behavior.

I'm almost hitting 100% belief that he's lying to you. Right now I'm at 80%. If this was something he has been dealing with all his life, or even a long period of time, he would know how to protect himself. If this was serious he would have looked into it himself without any prompting from anyone else. He would be taking the measures needed to keep himself and you as safe as possible. If not for himself then for you. I really think you should do some digging. I don't want to hear anything on this forum about you getting hurt where it could have been avoided. The fact you're reaching out tells me you're not fooling around and you are legit about this. So please, do what you need to for both you and him.

imaginary, granny is right. If Sarah is a separate and innocent entity then a blessing will not bother her or force her to leave. I have some questions for you if you don't mind. Have you ever seen or experienced any paranormal activity at Roger's house? You have stated that you witnessed Sarah speak through him. Could it be possible that Roger was just changing his voice to make you believe it was happening? Manipulation in relationships is very common. Some people are very needy and feel they have to dominate their partner. I myself have been a victim of this kind of relationship, and believe me it's very easy to get roped in. Most of the time you don't even realize it. I agree with whitebuffalo and think you should get some opinions on Roger from his friends and family. I know you love and care for Roger, but please don't forget to take care of yourself as well. 😊

Wow. This is NOT your story, but HIS?
First, I have GOT to say that "Roger" must be quite a personality. A bit of a... "Let us get this out in the open right now" kind of guy. Otherwise, MOST people that I personally know who are gifted generally keep that bit of information to themselves early on in a relationship so as not to be considered "nuts".
I have not read through the rest of the comments, so if I say something that someone else has, I am very sorry.
On the other side of that, though (meaning my first paragraph) unfortunately, is that SOME people think it is a... Uh... A pointer to higher intelligence to be able to experience what others can not. SOME people keep up the farce for as absolutely long as it has a thread left in Truth.

But... Ok. I have GOT to know...
When Sarah speaks to you, through Roger, could you please explain to me what her voice is like?
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait... That third paragraph. You start out by saying that Roger had you believing that there was another ghostie name of "John" that you found out later never actually existed, and yet he could cause Rogers fingers to get broken...?
DID that ghost exist, or was it a put on BY Roger?
HOW would a fabricated ghostie "almost" kill Roger?
He said ("John")... He said WHAT?!
Ok, I am sorry. I can not read through the rest of this. In complete honestly, and in a spirit of protection FOR you (I KNOW he is your fiance, but...) WHY would he lie about WHO this particular ghost was? WHY would he lie about an accident that took someone's life, let alone let you believe it was someone that he supposidly LOVED?
I would implore you, if you believe all this cockamamie crap, to do a background check on your Roger. Start putting "feelers" out about him to your friends. As you are engaged, to be MARRIED, you more than likely have mutual friends, "your" friends, and "his" friends. I would encourage you to ASK their opinion of him. I personally would not say "Ummm, Tracy. What do you think about Rogers ability to be a vessel for ghosts to talk through?" I would stick to the natural aspects of humanity here.
Let me tell you why. I have no clue how old you are, but if you are on the verge of being married, you are old enough to hear this.
When we get into relationships that the OTHER party is at a different "speed" on, and we are completely and fully "head over heels in love" with that individual, they most generally are aware of that. They sometimes do, or say things that can pressure US to do things we are not yet ready to do ("If you have sex with me, it will clear up your acne. I SAW that on Dr. Oz").
I can think of no stronger a pressure as KNOWING (as you BELIEVE this person has an ability) that in two years time, the love of your life will be KILLED if you do not perform.
I am sorry. I think Roger is handing you a line. A very convincing and elaborate one, at that, that just sort of fell into place when the knowledge that you accept his "gift" finally sunk in to him.
Wa-do.

Moongrim his no lady ok? "HIS" LoLx
Granny me too, I think Roger got a problem...
Imaginary - I'm not saying his a psycho, I'm just saying that maybe he wanted to have sex with you badly that he make this thing up... I think it would be best if you asked a medium to go with you in the house (with out Roger's concern, hide it from him,) this is the best solution that I can think of... I won't recommend aguing about john (cause we haven't had a proof if his even true)

NOTE: John is Roger x-boyfriend and imaginary is a HE 😐 I have read a misunderstanding about some comment so I'm making it clear for everyone 😆

-Aya Winchester
> watching ellen

Friend: I apologize, I also assumed you were female!... 😆...But it doesn't change my opinion... Just be careful, I don't think I need to tell you that!...Maybe try to pick up clues from other aspects of your relationship to figure out if indeed he is just trying to manipulate you... I have a few questions for you, but I don't want to ask them in a public forum, so if you're interested, just e-mail me, it's on my profile...

Cosmo's right about the blessing not having a major effect on "good" entities, as they have no reason to fear it... Maybe that should be your first course of action...It's worth a shot, right?...You don't have anything to lose at this point 😊

Dear everybody, thank you for your responses. Due to the amount, I'll reply to the ones which I have questions on.

[at] BadJuuJuu: Your comment was not offensive. It was actually quite true. We made the deal because at the time John was planning on killing Roger anyway. It was desperate and stupid, and he didn't keep his half anyway, so we're not sure what to think of our half.

[at] cosmogal926: thank you. If we bless the house, though, and Sarah happens to be innocent it won't get rid of her?

[at] moongrim: I'm not a lady, and I don't live in his room. I live in my own house.

[at] PrincessLotus: I've tried telling my pastor, but he doesn't believe in the sort of thing, and Roger's priest offered to bless the house, but warned it would get rid of Sarah. I'd never considered that the two would be the same entity. But thinking about it, Sarah has been rather... Knowledgeable about it all. Now that I think about it that's a very plausible option. I don't think your post was offensive either, thank you for your advice. I'll speak to Roger's priest when I get a chance.

[at] MyChaoticPeace: Roger and I have been dating for nine months now. I'm...to be honest, I doubt sometimes just how real it all is. Because if you think it through as being real, sure it works, but if you think it through as being fake, it makes more sense. As far as for his protection, I don't think he's done anything. Which scares me somewhat, but I think he's as clueless as I am. Which is why I posted here, to get an idea.

[at] zzsgranny: It sounds that way from the outside doesn't it...? I don't know, my own emotions make it seem possible, but there definitely is a chance that he is mentally disturbed or else just manipulative and knows I believe in these sorts of things...

Thank you all for your advice and thoughts on this. They're so very appreciated.

Friend: (sigh)...My first thoughts on this was that Sarah and John are one and the same being...I've been waiting to see if anyone else picked up on that... I won't chastize you for making a deal, that's already been voiced...

I would like to mention that there is no difference between a "Christian" and a "Catholic", as "Catholics" ARE Christians... I wish everyone would get that! LOL 😊

I also am leaning toward the possibility that your boyfriend has mental issues... Please don't misunderstand me... It irks me to no end when people are deemed mental because of their belief in the paranormal or supernatural... But this "deal" sounds like something a manipulative person would make to take advantage of a naive, young Christian woman...

So now, the deal is made and it's two years later...You're still together, but haven't made good on your part of the deal... Hypothetically speaking, let's say your boyfriend threatens to take his own life (a sin for Catholics) if you do not follow through on your part, because that's what Sarah says John will make your boy do... What are you going to do?...This is major manipulation, honey... And I'm afraid it's not paranormal...

Please talk to your pastor, minister, Sunday school teacher, Bible study leader, the crazy bag lady at the bus-stop, ANYbody, and get an outsider's opinion, and some help for you and your boyfriend... ❤

😕 Why in the world would you make a deal like that? It doesn't even make sense if you love him at all that wouldn't have happened. You don't seem to be Christian and he doesn't seem to be Catholic given the very idea you're dabbling in such a way into this sort of thing. If you aren't ready to have sex, what in the world would make you put a time limit on it if this is true? And if you two break up? You've already both signed off on this little deal you made. So if you two break up before doing the deed, you'd be sentencing him to death should you believe this is real correct? Let's set all that aside for now though, I'd hate to detract from the immediate danger with the inevitable danger... Let's address this in the now.

Allowing spirits or demons to share in your body is not the way to go. Allowing a spirit or demon to do anything sexually oriented to you under duress without seeking professional help from a member of your church was silly. You should have immediately sought out help once you felt the danger against you life had past. And even if you did feel threatened instead of allowing an evil or dark entity to have it's way with you, Roger should have turned to prayer and God if he still does believe himself to be a devout Catholic regardless of the situation. Go speak to a person of the cloth and allow them to help guide you out of this situation.

You don't make deals with a possible evil entity or any 'entity' at all. 'Sarah' and 'John" could easily be one in the same. It could be an entity trying to ease into your trust, past your defenses, and take what it wants from you, whatever that may be. If he knows what he is doing he should know how to ward himself. What is he doing to take steps for his protection?

How long have you two been dating? Are you sure what he says it happening really is? Are you sure what he says and does while 'possessed' isn't him? 🤔

Not trying to offend but this is a very seriouse situation you've put yourself in by allowing him to bring you into it. He shouldn't have introduced you to such a risky situation. He should have been looking to getting rid of 'John' long before allowing you into his home if this is real. If it's sexual energy it needs to survive it doesn't need you to get it. If it's already known to take 'advantage' of Roger, there is no reason for it to wait. It doesn't add up well to me.

Alright. This is so disturbing & it kind of makes me sick & angry at the same time. BADJUUJUU is right. & BAJUUJUU I am a Christian pastor & I take no offense to you comment at all. If people can't see the reality in your comment than screw them. But on to the point.

I as a pastor & a mother have to say 'Shame on both of you!' Both of you being believers 7 messing around with such dangerous crap is beyond me. What on earth were you thinking? & how do you know that 'Sarah' & 'John' aren't the same? YOU DON'T! You don't need to be coming here to ask for help, you need to talk to your pastor. I'd think you both would know this? In no way am I trying to be a jerk, I'm being completely real. I am a raw person, not your typical bible thumping overly religious pastor. Which some find quite odd & don't understand, but that alright, it doesn't phase me in the least. I share BADJUUJUU's opinion though. This was foolish & dangerous & now that your boyfriend has shared his body with God knows what, it's going to take some time. A lot of cleansing & blessing. I would even suggest a 'Soaking Prayer' Your pastor will know what to do more than me, because he/she can deal with this more hands on. I can only hope that the two of you are serious in wanting help to free you from this mess. Bless you & yours & please keep us posted. If I offended anyone, that was not my intent & I apologize now, so please don't scold me. I would rather us focus on the matter at hand than some one complaining about their feelings being hurt. So please know now I mean no harm ❤

~LSD~

Agree with Badjuujuu there even id jumped in a bathtub filled with holy water but instead of a bathtub I'm leaning more on the pool then holding the old bible plus St Benedict's Medal. No pun intended. And you really need to watch out who you guys deal with even your not sure that guy would honor the deal. Think about it if hes still making threats what's stopping John from killing your man. No offense though just stating facts >.<

What a complete load of bollocks.

Do you think everyone on here is going to accept this as real? An unmarried Christian lady living in the same room with her fiance and 'communing with ghosts?

Yeah Right.

I agree 100% with BadJuuJuu on this on. It is a very disturbing situation you both got yourselves into. I was also going to say that getting your house blessed will not have an affect on Sarah because she seems to be an innocent spirit who needs help. I suggest Roger stop allowing both Sarah and John to enter his body Immediately! You both need to start fazing John out. Take his power away by ignoring him, burning sage, and praying. Then get the house blessed. Take BadJuuJuu's advice to heart, and don't be making any deals with your or anyone else's life. Take Care and I hope everything works out well for you and Roger. Keep us posted.

I can't get my post to behave correctly. So, I'll just tell you this & hope it goes through. I have a solution I've used before that I believe would help you greatly. If you're interested, get my email address from my profile & let me know, its a bit lengthy & won't fit here. It will, hopefully, eradicate John & will leave Sarah alone if she isn't evil. I do hope to hear from you & I'm keeping the two of you in my prayers.

This story is rather disturbing, for many reasons. No matter how benign a ghost may seem, like Sarah, it's never a good idea to share your body with someone else. Think of it like forcing open the lock on a car door. Once the lock has been picked once, it's easier the next time, and the next time, and so on. I know some will disagree with me on this, but allowing one ghost to use your body will weaken the psychic locks that keep you safe, then it's much easier for some other entity to slip in.
The next thing I find disturbing is that Roger wasn't exactly honest about who John is. He has been pretty up-front in the past with you about his ghostly encounters, so why start trying to hide things with John?
The MOST disturbing thing to me out of the many worrisome things here is that you guys made a deal with John. If you haven't had sex in 2 years John can kill Roger? Why would you make such a bargain? You two seem to be putting yourselves in quite a mess of danger by Roger's dabbling.
Now, I'm going to say something else that I know for a fact is going to offend a lot of people, but I'm trying to put together the logic you guys are operating on. You're too Christian to have pre-marital sex, but not too Christian to be upset that Roger plays around with the supernatural? Most Christians that I've met would have screamed "DEMON!" and jumped into a bathtub full of holy water chanting Psalm 23 long before now. Over Sarah. Not even waiting around to meet John. To be honest, his letting Sarah possess him would have had me doing the Wiccan equivalant of running for a bathtub of holy water, so no offense intended to the Christians here by that analogy.
Get the house, and yourselves, cleansed and blessed ASAP. As Sarah seems to be a human ghost, the cleansing and blessing won't affect her. This John though, I'm not so sure about his human status. Get the cleansing and blessing done, and pray like crazy that he's gone. And try to find some loophole out of that deal yall made.

Here is my opion or theory...

1.) john is a poltergeist that was attracted to your boyfriend because he wanted to have sex with you badly, (a person get to attract a poltergeist when he/she is kind of really desprate to get attention or whatever he/she wants and show some symtoms like want you've writen)
2.) a succubi is also a possibility tho they usually have sex and don't treat others to do there job
3.) maybe its a psycho stalker ghost that has a hot toward roger 😆
4.) your boyfriend has a mental problem, (im sorry! I'm just pointing out the possibility! Please don't be mad)

-anyway I go for number 1... Again I'm sorry if I say some rude comment 😨

-Aya ** Drops of Jupiter