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zzsgranny (18 stories) (3326 posts) mod
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9 years ago (2011-05-16)
succubussed2: I don't want to start a flame war, so please just take my comment into consideration, okay?...There have been a lot of people who've benefited from JimD's advice... One of the problems with any proposed solution is that the person to whom the advice is offered has to believe the method will work... Another problem is, they have to WANT it to work...Although, I can't imagine anyone not wanting to be rid of a demon πŸ˜†...My point is this: there are all kinds of solutions, but only one will work in any given situation, considering that every experience is unique...JimD's methods have worked for so many, so of course, that's the advice he's going to give... Not so different from yourself, really... Your experience with your succubus gives you an edge when it comes to advising others in similar circumstances...And, I might add, you're adamant that your advice is the only one that will work...

Hatchet buried?😊
suucubussed2 (7 posts)
 
9 years ago (2011-05-15)
JimD, I am personally acquainted with someone who is plagued by a Demon who you said that you could help. This person relied on you, and you assured them that you could solve their problem.

You did not solve the problem; they are still plagued just as badly by this Demon as they were before you told them that you could fix it.

You obviously could not fix the problem, or else my friend wouldn't until be having the problem with this Demon.

I think it's wrong for you to give people hope that your methods will work, when in fact they do not. I am really concerned with the sudden increase in soliciting your "services" that I see her these past couple of days with your copy/pasted comments in peoples' stories.

What you are doing is morally wrong.
ICanHandleIt (guest)
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9 years ago (2011-05-15)
I can't enjoy girls if they surround me, petting me and such like they are in preschool. These girls do not fit my tastes, but I guess I'm too picky. Wisdom and spiritual quests are for those that seek it. I am confused with much, but I also understand much, believe it or not. Sorry to offend you, but when I tried holy water, it only gave me a headache. I don't go to church because it only makes me crazy and hateful. I never liked that preacher, he is so misguided, smacking a woman for trying to stir her chili.
JimD (431 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-05-15)
Hi
I do feel that the whisperings, shadows and head games are classic demonic harassment. Try Catholic Holy water and the phrase 'Jesus and Mary help me'. Note the reaction. Good luck and hang in there, ok? Dukes2352atAOL.com
JimD (431 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-05-15)
Hi
I do feel that the whisperings, shadows and head games are classic demonic harassment. Try Catholic Holy water and the phrase 'Jesus and Mary help me'. Note the reaction. Good luck anh hang in there, ok? Dukes2352atAOL.com
Pjod (3 stories) (978 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-05-15)
Icanhandleit,
no you can't! Your idea of what demons may be, or what can and can't do for you are all just a little bit warped to me. You sound very young and confused. My advice to you... Give up this quest and just enjoy being a young girl, who has normal friends, boyfriends, etc... There will be plenty of time for you to induldge in this spiritual playground when you are a bit older/wiser
ICanHandleIt (guest)
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9 years ago (2011-05-14)
HEY! I have friends! Real ones. What makes you think I don't!? Never assume a trait about someone. Anyway, sorry about the drama, I am permitted that for my age, though I like to put a few metaphors in it, seemingly. I feel sorry for though had to bear with this, my fault.
DeviousAngel (11 stories) (1910 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-05-14)
Uh, a little dramatic on the comments there, author... But I understand. Being a teenager is part of living and unfortunately, so are arrogance, anger, lacking social acceptance and struggling to find oneself. Don't give up on it, just surround yourself with positive energy and if you really want to follow a belief system, research it and know what you're getting into. It's the same, for example, as buying a house. If someone says they'll sell you a house for $1,000, you would want to see the house first, right? You would want to know if the place is going to fall apart when you move in, what you can expect when you live there, etc. Same with religion/spirituality. You want to know what your beliefs are and what you're subjecting yourself to before you launch headfirst into it.

Anyhow, I appreciate that you came here to post and that you need friends, but my suggestion is to go out there and make them in person, not over the internet on a forum. I think these things are manifestations of your loneliness. Please don't take offense when I say that, it's not meant to be hostile or rude. I'm saying that I can almost guarantee you that these experiences will stop when you find yourself a place where you feel you belong.
ICanHandleIt (guest)
 
9 years ago (2011-05-14)
You two are right, it was selfish to ask god and Jesus to help. I have myself to blame for the problem that got me here. I got what I wished for, though not in the form I intended it, it was love. Since then, the spirits came in, being little helpers, some awful, gave me a little protection from that same harm. Out of everything I long for, true love and feeling of being needed were strongest. However, there was a force preventing those things from happening. I just feel lone and pushed aside, like there is a window that keeps me out. I'm a teenager, with hell as an experience, not of burning or harm, but nothingness. Think of me as a young tree, as others go past me, I can't follow. Then when the winter for those beasts come, my bark is their supply, my wood in the spring, for the termites.
Lilady4 (7 stories) (427 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-05-13)
I have agree with DeviousAngel's first post and cosmogal926 on this one. This story felt very jumbled to me. And controlling the elements is really only something God (or Whatever deitity) would/can do. So I don't know if I follow or really believe your story, sorry. It just seems chock a block full of inconsistencies.
And I do have to agree with redphx on this one, Jesus and God are both great beings who will help you when you ask for it. There are billions of people in this world, and you are kind of mean for asking God/Jesus to help you. You have free will, now use it.
Sorry if this does sound mean, but I feel I had to write this.
Love & Light, Rachel ❀
redphx (4 stories) (827 posts)
 
9 years ago (2011-05-13)
dude where do you live in AZ. I'm in Phoenix. I don't ever want to meet in person ever but I am just curious
redphx (4 stories) (827 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-05-13)
ICanHandleIt - Oh my you are so confused.

Ok - you are right. Not all demons are bad. You are almost there though. They are not spirits with a bad past they are just demons. That is there species. They all have bad energy because that is what they are made of. Their world is in a lower vibration. They can never change their species. Same goes for angels. A demon is not an angel, never was an angel, and never will be.

Shame on you - Jesus helps you everyday, you just don't know it. He gives you support even if you don't see him or hear him. What do you expect him to do? Come sit on the couch with you and have a snack? Tell you the answers to the world? He doesn't do that. He is a teacher to us. He showed us how to live, how to be good, and what true love is. The jesus that is in the bible is a little contotred. He did marry and have a family. He was a loving person. He is the white light.

I don't think you are attracting the demons themselves. THis is what you are doing. You have hate. I can feel it, you feel betrayed amoung other things I won't go into because this is a public forum. Demons don't give to asshats about you. What they are drawn to is the negative energy you are giving off. They don't want your soul, they don't give too assboots. Its the energy they like.

I know a very nice demon. They are not all bad like I said. Most are though. You must be very very careful and don't you ever initiate contact with one. You don't know what you are doing yet. You are very strong in your energy but you need to channel it.

Also God is not a genie. He is not supposed to help you out of shiatpits that you got yourself into. He gave us will and expects us to use it.

I am not a religious person by any means. I don't own any crosses, no bibles, no nothing of the sort. I am a witch but I know what being good is. I have seen both sides of everything. And most people don't know it but I am a very negative person naturally. I get bad things attracted to me all the time. I also have a lot of hate which I shouldn't but I know those are my flaws and I don't exploit them. If you don't want bad things to come to you then figure out how to change your energy into something else.

You have so much to learn. I will help you as long as I can stand you.
ICanHandleIt (guest)
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9 years ago (2011-05-13)
I think the element thing is just another spirit, learning from the heart I pact with. I want to rid it to lure those things, see how they react. Its like layers upon layers of clothing, it keeps you from breathing, my shield dissolves my ability to sense. I was too young to have spasms, like seven (I remember way back). I don't know if my aunt is still wiccan, I haven't heard from her in a while, and she never liked talking about it, though she had her games and spells all over the place. I honestly hate the hear that all demons are evil, they are spirits with a bad past, in my eyes anyway. Jesus has never helped me, not when I needed him most, then the demons gathered. I don't think anything could have a voice like that, it sound older but youthful at the same time. I question exactly what it is, but I kind of call events or almost request them on accidents. I guess my aunt was a dabbler, but I have never seen her with a cross or bible or such. I guess buddhism helps describe me, but I'm more or less so the opposite of atheist, believing all religions for their truths and philosophy. Don't call it all over the place, I am answering the questions in order.
redphx (4 stories) (827 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-05-13)
I think you are a little self absorbed. I can go outside and say "water" and then blame myself for causing the Mississippi river to flood. I could go outside and say "wind" then say that the next gust of air was caused by me. No one can control the weather. You my friend are no exception. I don't know what you mean by your aunt being Wiccan affected your spiritual development. Do you mean this in a bad way? Most wiccans I know are very peaceful and they know how to protect themselves against the darker side of things. My mother was a witch as am I, but I do not follow the wicca.

I think you are young and trying to find yourself. I think that you playing with things and wanting things that you shouldn't. I also think you should read up about wiccans. I know there are some here and maybe they can help you understand the religion.
bacchaegrl (506 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-05-13)
I agree with DeviousAngel. This story makes little sense. Your toe moves one night and it scared you? Why does everyone assume everything is always paranormal. People twitch and have involuntary muscle spasms all the time. I feel tweaks in my shoulders and I feel muscles move when I'm lying in bed. I never once thought it was anything paranormal. People can't control all of their movements all of the time.
I have no idea what you meant about wishes. You were wishing for storms? Did you wish for a volcano? Why are you wishing for disasters? Not that I think you can control the elements. I really don't think you saying fire did anything. A premonition, maybe, but certainly not the cause. The rest of your story is rather confusing. I don't know what you mean by a wall in your mind. Maybe it's nothing, like, nothing happened. Just a thought. How do you see shadowy footsteps? Do you mean feet? Your story leaves more questions than answers.
momof2 (9 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-05-13)
I have to agree with DeviousAngel on everything she's said.

If you Aunt and Mother are Wiccan and allowed you to use their tarot cards, then they weren't Wiccan but dabblers in the practice.

To be completely honest, I have the feeling that you really are not sure what belief system you use. And dabbling with any symbolism of the occult is just an all around bad idea😨!

You need first to discover what or who you believe in, then begin a basic practice, slowly but diligently growing more involved.

Anything you chose to give your heart to will provide you with protection, that you will learn to use when necessary!

Respectful, Mom
guyinsane2008 (guest)
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9 years ago (2011-05-13)
Devious Angel -

Its what tolerance is about. Faith in something is better than faith in nothing. Many people get cured by "sugar pills" because of their faith in a particular substance.

A few of the posters here usually state that one "should pray to whatever deity" one believes in. That is probably the best politically correct advise a poster can give.
aiafaith1 (guest)
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9 years ago (2011-05-13)
I have to go with DeviousAngel and cosmogal. If someone could control the elements, heck ya, the human race would be long gone.

I wouldn't use somebody else's tarot cards either, especially playing with them.

Also, just because the voice sounded soft, doesn't mean it's a demon right away.

Respectfully,

AF1
DeviousAngel (11 stories) (1910 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-05-13)
Oh, and just to clarify for those of you who are Christian and aren't militant recruiters: kudos to you guys. You're the only ones following the actual message of Jesus, which is peacefully practicing your beliefs and allowing your positive actions to influence others into WANTING to be a part of your system. You should never need to ask or tell someone to be a Christian. They have to want it on their own.
DeviousAngel (11 stories) (1910 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-05-13)
Of course it is, Troy. That's because your religion has borrowed many traditions from Wicca and other pagan religions pre-dating Christianity, and they did so to make Christianity more "familiar" for followers--many of whom were forcibly converted under the threat of being slaughtered. The process is simple: integrate and destroy the evidence. Disagree with me all you want but facts are facts.

I appreciate that you're trying to help the author out, but based on your comments on this and other stories, it's clear that you're on a desperate campaign to slander any religion but your own.

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cosmogal926 (9 stories) (1223 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-05-13)
I agree with Devious on this one. I found it difficult to follow your story as well. You mentioned your aunt "was" a Wiccan did you meant that in the past tense or is she still wiccan? If she is then I'm sure she will be more than happy to answer your questions about shields and how to use them. The part about your toe feeling like it was being pressed down by a boot. I think it was a toe spasm. It happens spontaneously and hurts like heck. It's like your toe just locks up. Hate when that happens 😭
DeviousAngel (11 stories) (1910 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-05-13)
This whole story is just... All over the place.

Firstly, you cannot control the elements not matter how strong you are spiritually. If that were the case, the world would have ended a long time ago.

Secondly, playing with someone else's tarot cards is usually frowned upon. Anyone who owns and uses them knows that when people touch them, it changes the energy they are infused with--in essence, it "taints" them. I guess we can cut you a break because you were a kid, but hopefully that's not something you do anymore. The advice is pretty much, "get your own".

Thirdly, what makes you think a Wiccan wouldn't know how to protect against spiritual attacks? If you were really raised in a Wiccan household you would know that they are very spiritually guarded individuals, because a lot of the faith revolves around contact with spirits. First you say you need advice to protect you from the other side... And then you say you want someone to help you get rid of your shield. Why would you WANT to get rid of this "shield" protecting you from being lured in by "demons"?

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