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geetha50 (15 stories) (986 posts)
+2
7 years ago (2012-10-25)
Granny,
You are right, this has gotten way off topic and I think it should be stopped because the original poster hasn't bothered to response.

BUT I will say this to Seven25 (and this is only because Seven25 still asked for help).

Seven25,
I don't know if you missed this by accident in all the fighting that was going on but I posted a message to you in my first post on this story and I still stand by it. At this point, I don't care if you are the original poster or not but you have asked for help and that is simply what I am doing. Here is what I wrote in my first post:

"This is the social worker in me that is talking. I'm going to take a BIG leap of faith here and say that you might NOT be the original poster BUT I will give you the same advise as above, here. Go talk to someone you trust. It could be one or both of your parents, guardian, doctor, teacher, religious leader. Also, I mentioned doctor because I want you to check out your health (both physically and mentally). I don't think you are crazy but it's always good to rule out everything else from this world before going to the paranormal. Then I suggest you go to a religious leader and see what he says. What is following you is not good. A TRUE protector does not hurt you and like another poster mentioned earlier, a protector is there to guide you and help you deal with problems on your own. PLEASE get help!"
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
7 years ago (2012-10-11)
~sorry mom...

Jav

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zzsgranny (18 stories) (3323 posts) mod
+8
7 years ago (2012-10-11)
*sigh* Okay guys, there's way too much time and space being taken up with this thread...Let's all move along...There's some pretty interesting stories that are being neglected because of this piece of work...

Any further comments not pertaining to the story or directly addressing the O/P will be deleted... Please take the issues off site or to your own story thread/s...Thank you! 😊
seven25 (18 posts)
-1
7 years ago (2012-10-11)
please stop saying that I am dtiger I am not and will never be I just wanted help but all I have gotten is judgement I am one of thoose people who hate fighting I don't swear unless I have to and this is still no reason to swear so I won't but I promise on my life I am thirteen and I am not dtiger like I said I just want help but no one will help me cause they are to busy blaming me for nothing
chelly (4 posts)
+2
7 years ago (2012-10-10)
at Jav

You are awesome! I like your craziness and you direct way of saying what you think. I am not saying this in any creepy way... I just like it when people are direct and to the point.

I don't know why, but I read the comments before I read the story. (I do not normally do this) and enjoyed the comments actually way more that the story itself. I do agree, this is NOT real. I'm not an expert and I don't have any stories of my own as I just joined and I don't really have "stories" just dreams. So I just come on this site and enjoy the stories because the paranormal fasinates me...ALOT. But to get back to my point: this can't be real due to the fact that (as I heard) ghosts are ghosts because they don't know they're dead and in the storie the "boy" said he is dead. Secondly, do ghosts correspond via technology/letters/IM or anything... Don't they just normally appear and if they do say something they actually SAY it?

Yet again, I'm NEW and I am 100% honest if I say I really don't know how spirits usually works... I just go by logic and what I heard.

Jav, thank you for pointing out a pattern... Will definately be more sceptical from now on
curiousDevu (10 stories) (45 posts)
+4
7 years ago (2012-10-10)
I spent 5 minutes in reading the story, half an hour browsing through the comments, and I am not saying that this is an outright fiction, but it didn't quite ring to me as true. And as someone had rightly pointed out that after the mention of the story and comments being too mature for a 13 year-old, the updates by seven25 mysteriously became grammatically incorrect. Also the author dtiger and seven25 seem to be the same person, the latter apologized for saying something about kissing and stuff which didn't really take place. Maybe he is forgetting the ID he has been using, and something that struck me as being the oddest part of the story was the conversation with the "ghost" on an IM. How does a spirit contact a living being through an IM? Or has Mr. Jobs been helping the spirits up there? 😆
You are right Javelina and geetha50, the story is just a bait for luring in vulnerable teen girls, [at] javelina your anger is quite justified. Such stories are the outcome of books like Twilight and Vampire Diaries, every girl thinks a gorgeous vampire is out there, just for her who would guard her from bullies and other things, this story should be deleted.
Scbsd (guest)
-2
7 years ago (2012-10-10)
Ok, once again Javelina, I honestly don't know what you are talking about. Which question, and what would be your answer?
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
7 years ago (2012-10-10)
Besides, judging from the way you asked the question, you would be very surprised at my answer.

Jav
Scbsd (guest)
-1
7 years ago (2012-10-10)
Javelina, I didn't see anything by that that idiot calling you a liar for saying that you'd been raped. After he told everyone that he made up the whole story the comments section went ballistic and I only stayed around long enough to put in my own two cents worth. I didn't really pay attention to what was being said by anyone else, ESPECIALLY not the OP.

I never saw what you are talking about. If I would have, I would have said something in your defense.
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
+3
7 years ago (2012-10-10)
Excuse me? You now want civility? Holy moly!
Listen, do you recall a couple of weeks ago when that guy posted a story about being raped by a spirit, only to return a few days later laughing at everyone who believed it because he made it all up just to make his point? Well, later on that same guy called me a liar for claiming I had been raped. In all that back and forth, not once did I say "ask SCBSD, he can tell you I'm not lying"? No, I didn't. And when you did come and comment, you never said a thing either way about any of it.
Now you want me to say something in your favor? After all the crap, the cold shoulder, the too cool for school attitude you throw at me even when I am being civil?
A year ago I might have.
Today? No.
Congratulations, I am going against my own policy of "even though that guys a jerk, I'll do the right thing" just for you. Happy now?
I'm not family, I don't have to put up with you.
Plus, as you noted previously, you think I am insane. I think I'll stick with the insanity plea, those guys get away with murder.

Jav
rookdygin (24 stories) (4454 posts)
 
7 years ago (2012-10-10)
Scbsd,

Agreed, but you asked a question, I had an answer.

Respectfully,

Rook
Scbsd (guest)
-1
7 years ago (2012-10-10)
I guess you could be right, Rook, but I don't agree with your theory.

I don't think that the OP did this innocently. I agree with Javelina in that I think that this story was put up as bait.
Isolde (guest)
+3
7 years ago (2012-10-10)
Zzsgranny and Javelina, thank you for your replies. I didn't mean to offend anybody. I was just wondering. And perhaps it is a good thing the story combined with the comments is published. The youngster that do come here, can get a fair warning about these matters. Don't trust strangers!
rookdygin (24 stories) (4454 posts)
+1
7 years ago (2012-10-10)
Scbsd,

I can...

FOR THE THRILL OF MISLEADING PEOPLE...

Just for the sake of posting BS to see how many people believe it.

Is that 'innocent' enough for you?

Respectfully,

Rook
Scbsd (guest)
-1
7 years ago (2012-10-10)
Rook, if you can come up with an "innocent" reason why a man pushing 60 would pretend to be a 13 year-old girl, then you have a better imagination than I do.

There is no good reason I can think of that any grown man would pretend to be a teenage girl on the Internet.

Can you think of one? I can't.

Therefore, anyone accusing me of pretending to be a 13 year-old girl is accusing me of being a pedophile in my book.
Cfinnegan (17 posts)
 
7 years ago (2012-10-10)
Jav!
The fact that the original author has not yet posted is rather like someone not turning up at court.
When I read this I could tell something was wrong. It sounds like the author went out their way to try and sound like a teenager or whatever.

Anyway, the word comments should be changed to arguments just for you!😂
Sorry! Apart from when the story is ridiculous.😱
Scbsd (guest)
-3
7 years ago (2012-10-10)
Javelina, Troyarn didn't say anything about sex, but he was expanding on an idea that you yourself raised in your comment (which in fact I agree with) when you said--"This sounds more like an incubus/succubus type story. And I do believe the author is driving it in that direction. There have been others who've submitted this sort of fiction here, and I do believe this to be fiction, for the sole purpose of luring other young girls toward a certain direction."

Why else would a grown man pretend to be a 13 year-old girl?

You didn't openly accuse me of being DTiger/seven25 but Troyarn did, and unless Troyarn believes that DT/725 has a different motive than the one that I (and you) suspect the OP of having, then Troyarn has accused me of being a pedophile.

I can handle a lot of abuse, but I won't let people libel me in that sort of fashion without challenging them.

You would never accuse me of anything like that, right, Javelina?
rookdygin (24 stories) (4454 posts)
+4
7 years ago (2012-10-10)
SCBSD,

Umm troyarn has made exactly two comments on this thread, and neither of these seems to insinuate what your driving at... The comments he made were...

"I have to agree with many on here... That when I first read this story I thought it was written by a male and also that, once people said the writer seemed over 13, there were more misspelled words in the replies.
Hate to say it, but this is one reason I skip all stories written by "teenagers"."

AND

"Now I'm thinking Seven25, Scbsd, and dtiger are all the same people. Man... I just come on here to read true stories and share my own. I have enough drama in my life... No need to take on more."

The only accusation he made is that he 'thinks' (his opinion) that you, seven25 and DTiger are all the same person... Right or wrong that is the only thing he has said. So I do not see how you've jumped to the conclusion that he's 'insinuating' you are a Pedophile.

Jav didn't even use that term concerning you in her comments, in fact she agreed with you and you seemed to ignore this fact... Which resulted in her 'poking' you... She said this TO YOU...

"SCBSD,
Nothing has been deleted. That is just how stupid this idiot is. Also, those posts saying that "she" was going to tell her mom, and then then saying she did tell her mom? They came up so quickly it would have been impossible for all of that to have occurred in that little amount of time. I mean, it was only minutes from when rook posted that both of those responses appeared. One right after the other. So yeah, it's a bunch of hooey. Don't believe it for a minute."

That was directed to you and seems very civil to me...

You then made a comment to zzgranny and Jav responded, again very civilly, with this...

" Funny you mention that part of the story as being the add-on part because that was where my suspicion was first raised. I thought it was weird that it was more of a side bar comment than part of the story. It was never brought back to the horse at all after that, and that is weird in itself. Horse lovers are diehards about talking about horses at that age. They don't just stop where this one did without coming back to it."

Again you ignored her... Given the History between you two ignoring her is your choice but at no time within these comments have Jav or troyarn even hinted at you being a Pedophile.

Paranoid much?

Respectfully,

Rook
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
+2
7 years ago (2012-10-10)
And there you go. The master instigator. Nowhere in his post does he mention anything about sex whatsoever. But you put the words up as if he had. Time and time again this is your response to anything you don't like. You, and all your little "friends" do this. It's the name calling I think you're addicted to. It's constant. Your finger is always pointing at others in an attempt to remove the spotlight from yourself. When will you get it? Everyone sees through that little charade. They have for a long time now. When you point at someone else and start the blame game, that's when it's over for you. It's your pattern pal. You keep following the same patterns. Even when you try to change it, it comes out anyway. Get over yourself man! Nobody's buying what you have to sell.

Jav
Scbsd (guest)
 
7 years ago (2012-10-10)
Troyarn, why do you think I would pretend to be a 13 year-old girl?

Are you accusing me of being a Pedophile? If you are, then why don't you come right out and say it?

Just because I have sex with a Spirit doesn't mean I am interested in young girls. You need to get your thoughts checked, because you are jumping to some seriously flawed conclusions.
rookdygin (24 stories) (4454 posts)
+5
7 years ago (2012-10-10)
Next on...

'As the Instigator Stutters.'

WILL DTiger return and make a comment?

IS seven25 really DTiger and if so WHY the deception?

WHY do so many of the regulars on YGS believe this 'STORY' to be 'bait'?

Stay tuned the answers to these questions and many more may yet be reveled on...

'As the Instigator Stutters.'

Puff Bayram

LNTP

(Swearing out loud as this seems to be the only signal coming in over the Miss Demeanor's satellite TV)
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
+1
7 years ago (2012-10-10)
Oh yeah, just to pound the point home. This is the first time the person known as seven25 has officially addressed me by name, or any other way for that matter. Even though I have addressed this person more than once, they have seen fit to give me the time of day until now. And we all know who loves to give me the cold shoulder, don't we?

Jav

~It must be a burden having to always act as if you don't hear the voices in your head screaming at you.
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
7 years ago (2012-10-10)
Troyarn,
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at your last remark. Welcome to my crazy little world. You better run though, you don't want to be here when the door shuts and the lights go out.
Ahh Crazytown... Home sweet home.

Jav 😉
troyarn (5 stories) (479 posts)
+2
7 years ago (2012-10-10)
Now I'm thinking Seven25, Scbsd, and dtiger are all the same people. Man... I just come on here to read true stories and share my own. I have enough drama in my life... No need to take on more.
troyarn (5 stories) (479 posts)
+2
7 years ago (2012-10-10)
I have to agree with many on here... That when I first read this story I thought it was written by a male and also that, once people said the writer seemed over 13, there were more misspelled words in the replies.
Hate to say it, but this is one reason I skip all stories written by "teenagers".
seven25 (18 posts)
-3
7 years ago (2012-10-10)
mabye your the crazy one on this

And jav thank you for believeing me 😐
seven25 (18 posts)
-3
7 years ago (2012-10-10)
scbsd-
Sorry but you got the wrong person I am defanintly not dtiger I can promise you that I am the one and only seven25 no one else sorry but you might as well except it (I apoligize for my rudeness but it is only the truth)
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
7 years ago (2012-10-10)
SCBSD,

That has got to be the most telling statement you have ever made here. I know you have a rough time dealing with reality and talking only as one person, but you get by.
Now me? I have never claimed to be anything but crazy. I wear it like a crown sweetheart. I work hard to keep the crazy coming, you know that. But insane? Hmm...
Tell you what. How about we leave that at 'it takes one to know one'?

Oh yeah, I'm as crazy as they come!

Jav 😆
Scbsd (guest)
 
7 years ago (2012-10-10)
In fact, and I say this with a certain amount of care for you, I think that you're a little insane, Javelina.

None of what you say to me makes any sense.
Scbsd (guest)
 
7 years ago (2012-10-10)
Good for you, Javelina, but what you say still makes no sense to me.
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
7 years ago (2012-10-10)
SCBSD,
It's alright if you want to pretend you don't know, I wouldn't have it any other way. You see, you have a pattern as well, several actually. As a matter of fact, you are one of the reasons I do so well when it comes to the patterns I watch for. Maybe that doesn't mean much to you in the grand scheme of things, but it does keep me vigilant. And that's all that matters.

Jav 😁
Scbsd (guest)
 
7 years ago (2012-10-10)
I don't understand what you are trying to say, Javelina. You aren't making any sense to me.

In which case I am going to leave this and go elsewhere.
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
7 years ago (2012-10-10)
SCBSD,
Just pointing fingers and having fun at your expense. I wouldn't want you to get the impression I had any change of heart about you. I tried being civil, but you are too uptight to play that game. So I went with the old standard. What? Are you going to act innocent here now? Oh God, I hope so! Otherwise this would be no fun at all. 😆
Have a nice evening pal.

Jav 😁
Scbsd (guest)
 
7 years ago (2012-10-10)
Ok, make that Javelina, what the hell are you talking about? (two comments back. The one before you tripped-out over the down-votes, none of which had anything to do with me, btw)?
Scbsd (guest)
 
7 years ago (2012-10-10)
Javelina, what the hell are you talking about?

I am not trying to start a fight here, but your most recent comment has me wondering... What the hell are you talking about?
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
7 years ago (2012-10-10)
Aww! That's so sweet! Keep those down votes coming dear, we would hate to think you had lost your style.

Jav 😆
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
+1
7 years ago (2012-10-10)
[at] SCBSD,
Wow, that was the most perfect form of a$$holiness you have mustered up in quite some time. You couldn't have ignored me more than you did during this exchange. So, to what do I owe this honor?
You are too funny! 😆 😆

Jav

~PS~ You don't have to try so hard, it's not a competition. 😆
Scbsd (guest)
 
7 years ago (2012-10-10)
Thanks, Zzsgranny. I guess I just skimmed it.

Seven25, I don't believe you. I think you are DTiger.
seven25 (18 posts)
-2
7 years ago (2012-10-09)
i promise I told my mom about it and that I am thirteen I was not lieing I promise
seven25 (18 posts)
-2
7 years ago (2012-10-09)
scbsd-
What I meant by the kissing things is that the ghost does not do that your right I did not post anything wth kissing in it
zzsgranny (18 stories) (3323 posts) mod
+3
7 years ago (2012-10-09)
Scbsd: Nope, this is the story that was published... Maybe you were bored and skipped that part accidently LOL 😊...

What makes me suspicious is the fact that this account has been here for days and we haven't seen hide nor hair of the "author", at least not the one by the screen name of DTiger 😆
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
7 years ago (2012-10-09)
Funny you mention that part of the story as being the add-on part because that was where my suspicion was first raised. I thought it was weird that it was more of a side bar comment than part of the story. It was never brought back to the horse at all after that, and that is weird in itself. Horse lovers are die hards about talking about horses at that age. They don't just stop where this one did without coming back to it.

Jav
Scbsd (guest)
 
7 years ago (2012-10-09)
Zzsgranny, is it me, or has this story been added on to?

I don't remember this bit at all: "The first time I think I really saw Alex was when I was ten. I was at the stable, playing with my favorite horse, Sky, in his paddock. I would spread my arms out, and roar, scaring him a bit, and he'd run. I'd laugh really loudly, just having fun.

But I heard another laughter along with mine. It was unmistakeablely a boy's laugh. That's when I saw Sky pin his ears forward, and look over at the far end of the paddock. (Note: when a horse pins his ears forward, he's interested in something, paying full attention, or happy. When they are pinned flat back against its head, they're not happy at all.) When I followed the direction his head was pointing in, I saw him. He was really far back there, but he was there. It looked like a boy that worked at the stable. Definitely older than me. I couldn't make out any details, but I stared a little more until Sky stirred a bit. He usually didn't like people or other horses in his paddock. But I was an exception merely because I kept giving him peppermints.

I remember seeing him canter over to scare the boy away. But when he got there, he whinnied, and came running back. When I looked over to where the boy was before, there was nothing there. So I brushed it off, thinking it was just my wild imagination, or maybe the stable boys were messing with me.""

Am I imagining things or was this story added on to? It doesn't even seem to make sense in the narrative, but seems to be placed merely to get young, horse-loving girls (meaning all of them) to pay attention to it.
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
+1
7 years ago (2012-10-09)
Isolde,
This story was up for a couple of days before I saw it. That means a lot of others read it before me and didn't say anything about it. Sometimes it takes a loud mouth like me to bring attention to something others have passed over because they just didn't like it. And don't forget, I've been here a long time and I have reason for watching for certain patterns that occur on these stories. Not everyone has the time I do to dedicate to it. And the editors/mods have full time jobs outside of YGS, so they don't have any extra time.

Jav
zzsgranny (18 stories) (3323 posts) mod
+6
7 years ago (2012-10-09)
Isolde: We editors try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt when deciding whether to publish a story or can it...Usually, discrepancies aren't revealed until the story posts... Cut us some slack, mmmkay? 😊
Isolde (guest)
+4
7 years ago (2012-10-09)
Question: if this story is so clearly a fake and potentially very harmful, why was it published at all to begin with?
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
+3
7 years ago (2012-10-09)
[at] geetha,
Woman, if there is one thing you and I have in common it is our righteous indignation rants. Once we get on a roll it's pretty hard to stop us. And what you said about it being a guy who wrote this? Definitely! That's exactly what I saw too. It reeks with the creep factor.

SCBSD,
Nothing has been deleted. That is just how stupid this idiot is. Also, those posts saying that "she" was going to tell her mom, and then then saying she did tell her mom? They came up so quickly it would have been impossible for all of that to have occurred in that little amount of time. I mean, it was only minutes from when rook posted that both of those responses appeared. One right after the other. So yeah, it's a bunch of hooey. Don't believe it for a minute.

I hate to say this, but all of this puts me in mind of that guy a few years ago that tried to take credit for the J Benet Ramsey murder. Remember they had to extradite the guy from Thailand? He got a free ride back to the states because he walked into a police station claiming he had killed her. Mark something, I can't remember his last name. But that is who this creepy narrative reminded me of.

Jav
SirenBelva (7 stories) (64 posts)
 
7 years ago (2012-10-09)
Wow. Just wow. I was alarmed when I read this story for multiple reasons which included many of those mentioned by previous posters and I would like to thank the veteran users of this site for your insights regarding this issue. I Favorited this story only to be able to refer to it as an example of something created to lure vulnerable teenagers into who-knows-what. Thank you everyone for caring and for vigilance. The Internet can be a very scary place. 😕
Isolde (guest)
+2
7 years ago (2012-10-09)
Ha... The only thing good about this fictional 'thing' is that he always locates her lost things, the calculator etc. Would love to have a ghost in ny house who would find my lost things, I always misplace my carkey, wallet, lighter etc...
(Sorry, can't help myself...)
Scbsd (guest)
+5
7 years ago (2012-10-09)
seven25--"and also I would like to say that I did not mean the kissing things."

What "kissing things"? I've been through all of your comments, and in none of them do you mention any kissing. Maybe I am missing something? Could you point out where you mentioned any "kissing things"? Even if your comment had been deleted, the subsequent comments from other posters would have made mention of you tacking about kissing things in your deleted comment.

I don't see that.

In fact the only thing I see is that "DTiger" mentioned something about kissing. And I quote--"I ran to my bed, pulled the cover over my head, and kept my eyes shut despite the taps, the cuddles, the "kisses", and the moving of the covers."

Only DTiger mentions kissing, so why are you apologizing for it? Did you forget which ID you used to mention kissing?

Also, your writing looks me to be intentionally bad after several posters mentioned the fact that your writing seem to be well above a 13 year-old level (examples--"I would again like to apoligize for my wrong writting." " I am truely srry for miss inturppretting this event").

Come on. Nobody writes like that.

I personally think you are using multiple IDs (yes I know, YGS regulars. Go ahead and laugh) for what purpose I am not sure, but think Javelina might have a handle on it.

Also...is it me, am I going nuts, or has this story been edited/added-on to? I could swear that there is a lot more here now than there was when I first saw it a few days ago.
geetha50 (15 stories) (986 posts)
+5
7 years ago (2012-10-09)
Initially, when I read this story, I thought it was a guy writing this. As an amateur author, I like to think that I have a pretty good idea of the different writing styles different age groups write. I could tell this story was right of the bat in your face false. I knew something was off when I kept thinking it was a guy and not a girl was writing this story until near the end.

Secondly, I used to work part time with the City of Toronto before coming full time. As a part timer, I worked as a Youth Leader and I have worked with teenagers and helped with their homework. So, I know how their writing styles are and this is certainly not one of them.

As a woman and a social worker, it freaks me out that there so many ways people can lure teenagers out of the safety area. I would love nothing better than to report these kind of people to the police.

I will be devil's advocate here and say this. If the original poster is who "she" is and the events mentioned above a 100% true, then I suggest you go to your parents, teachers, guidance counselor, or even your spiritual leader (depending on your faith and believes) and GET HELP! What you are experiencing is NOT normal and should be dealt with immediately.

Seven25,
This is the social worker in me that is talking. I'm going to take a BIG leap of faith here and say that you might NOT be the original poster BUT I will give you the same advise as above, here. Go talk to someone you trust. It could be one or both of your parents, guardian, doctor, teacher, religious leader. Also, I mentioned doctor because I want you to check out your health (both physically and mentally). I don't think you are crazy but it's always good to rule out everything else from this world before going to the paranormal. Then I suggest you go to a religious leader and see what he says. What is following you is not good. A TRUE protector does not hurt you and like another poster mentioned earlier, a protector is there to guide you and help you deal with problems on your own. PLEASE get help!
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
+1
7 years ago (2012-10-09)
Wow! I just went through the comments I've been missing and it has been mom after mom and woman after woman. Sorry guys, you are great as well. But it does my heart good to see I am not the only one who got the creeping willies from reading this. Pretty scary stuff, huh? It makes a difference when you are a mom, especially if you have raised teenagers. It's good to know that others will be watching for this garbage. I was so mad after I read this, and after putting my first post up, I thought people might think I had gone over the line, you know? But you guys are wonderful!
I love to see watch dogs in action! Thank you!

Jav 😁
airstream (13 posts)
+2
7 years ago (2012-10-09)
seven25- apology accepted.

By the way, I agree 100 % with Javelina. Be open with your mother. We may not have had the Internet when we were teens, but we do have more life experiences than you have to be able to smell a rat a mile away.
Kryodrache (3 stories) (108 posts)
+1
7 years ago (2012-10-09)
[at] Javelina

Oh, wow xD

Thanks for reminding me exactly why I was so paranoid at a younger age. That kind of stuff terrified me! I was always tiptoeing around the internet like it was made of razor blades. I guess I've forgotten a bit of that over a period of time... Not such a good thing I suppose.
zzsgranny (18 stories) (3323 posts) mod
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7 years ago (2012-10-09)
seven25: It's very rare to see a younger person with manners, and so I'd like to say thank you for apologizing... 😊
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
7 years ago (2012-10-08)
seven25,
Just do the right thing, that's all I ask. Stay away from anything that seems too fanciful and seems as if it was written just for you. You cannot be too careful about this stuff. There are people out there doing this sort of thing all over the Internet. And let me just say, it obviously works because you were drawn into it completely ready to go to battle for this writer. That's what they want. So please be more careful and make certain your mom knows everything.

Jav
seven25 (18 posts)
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7 years ago (2012-10-08)
I promise from the bottom of my heart that I m not the writer to this story I had not thought that this could be an adult and I am truely srry for miss inturppretting this event my mom and I are working it out and I would once again like to apoligize
GloriaW (2 stories) (15 posts)
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7 years ago (2012-10-08)
Wow. I completely agree with Javelina. Not only does this spirit know it is dead but is technologically savvy. Unlikely! I also have two teenagers and am surrounded by numerous teenagers due to being a "class mom" and "team mom". I HIGHLY doubt this was written by a 13 year old unless the writer is extremely advanced. The terminology used is no how teens speak. I am no stranger to paranormal incidents and try to keep my kids away from it. The few experiences they have had shook them to the core and they do not wish to encourage any beings in any way. I believe that the author is an adult. If this is a teenage girl, she has a vivid imagination and may need to become a writer or seek professional help.
Caz (292 posts)
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7 years ago (2012-10-08)
Javelina, as soon as I read this story, I felt it was a complete fabrication, but it never crossed my mind about the author's intent, until you drew my attention to the 'pattern'! It makes complete sense and I shall watch out for it in future! Thank you for that!
rookdygin (24 stories) (4454 posts)
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7 years ago (2012-10-08)
seven25,

Ummm if you 'didn't mean them' then why place them in the 'story'.

I'm glad your Mother is willing to help... Take care.

Jav,

Let's hope this one is 'put to rest' and we do not have yet another round of 'As the Instigator Stutters.'

Respectfully,

Rook

LNTP
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
7 years ago (2012-10-08)
[at] rook,
There's the thing I have been waiting for. Speaks to everyone who has addressed them but me. Boy, if that isn't a regular instigator, I don't know what is. I'll just bet the screaming comes when they switch back to the original alias though. I can hardly wait to hear what they have prepared for me now. I am certain it won't be any different than usual. If that's the case, I'll simply ignore it. They tend to bore me when they use the same old rant.

Jav
seven25 (18 posts)
 
7 years ago (2012-10-08)
i told my mom about what was happening and she said she will help thank you for makeing me do that plus she was reading over my shoulder
seven25 (18 posts)
 
7 years ago (2012-10-08)
airstream and rookdygin-
I will take your advice and tell my mother and also I would like to say that I did not mean the kissing things. I would again like to apoligize for my wrong writting.
rookdygin (24 stories) (4454 posts)
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7 years ago (2012-10-08)
DTiger... Or is it seven25?

I question your Identity because of this statement...

"i would like to point out that first I am not lieing and second I could not believe what I just read but I do believe you. Ok I am thirteen and I see ghosts to. The same thing happened to me but not same ghost."

To me it sounds as if you are the O/P attempting to 'validate' your own 'fiction' and that is how I'm directing my comment...

I find this difficult to believe... You claim you've had two conversations with 'spirits' who both claim to be around to protect you...

You conversed with the first one via 'IM' and the second via pre-written questions on paper... BIG CLUE here, as Jav pointed out, is the fact the next question seems to be based on a predetermined answer.

Both spirits are 'tall, handsome, men' who want to protect you? Protect you from? Are you Abused? Neglected? Protection does not include fondling and 'light kisses' of 13 year old's (in case there really are two of you).

This sounds way more of 'romantic fiction' than it does of 'true ghost' stories. I blame Twilight and other stories along the same lines...

I'm not 'sold' on this 'STORY' not at all.

Respectfully,

LNTP
airstream (13 posts)
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7 years ago (2012-10-08)
seven25-
If you are indeed a 13 year old girl as you say you are, please go to a trusted adult for help. I'm sure there is a parent, teacher, aunt, uncle, someone that can help you.
seven25 (18 posts)
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7 years ago (2012-10-07)
airstream-
I am truely sorry I have anger issues and sometimes they get the best of me. Now I would like to point out my mistake I wrote one question at a time after he replyed I truely am a thirteen yer old girl and I regrett the thing I said earlier I should have calmed down please forgive me.
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
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7 years ago (2012-10-07)
[at] seven25,
Excuse me but your story is another big stinking load as well. How do I know this? Let's go with your list of questions, okay? And remember, you said you wrote these questions out ahead of time. Here is the exact quote"
"I wrote a page of questions and left it in my room.
Me: who is following me?
Jacob: me
Me: me who?
Jacob: my name is jacob
Me: why are you following me?
Jacob: to protect you
Me: what do you mean protect me
Jacob: I was told you were in trouble and to protect you
Me: WHAT!
Jacob: talk to you later trust no one"

Now, just from those questions I can tell you are being deceitful. You have them written them as if you already knew the response you would be getting.
"who is following me? Me. Me who?"
How would you know the ghost would answer the first question with 'Me'? Thus leading you to ask 'Me who'?
Maybe your friends will believe that garbage but we don't. And if you truly are a 13 year old, you need to watch out for stories like this. They are written specifically toward getting young girls to respond. The next phase is private email or IM's, after that you may become a statistic. Another child who has simply disappeared off the face of the earth. Harsh? You bet I am! This isn't like playing dolls or house, this is real life, and it's dangerous. If you think you are safe just because this is the Internet, you're wrong. These guys know how to get the information they need to track you down. They pose as someone your age, complain about the same things you do, talk about being bullied or picked on at school, then comes the easy part, they get the name of your school, your best friend, or your worst enemy. Then they start the search. They will find you. Count on it. And if you have been talking with anyone lately that sounds like what I have just described, you need to go to your parents about it, now.

Jav

~And if you are not a 13 year old girl? You better hope we don't find you.
MoonFall (1 stories) (47 posts)
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7 years ago (2012-10-07)
hmmm...let's say for a sec, this story is true indeed...it's still creepy... Alex sounds dangerous and possessive... I would not want a spirit such as this anywhere near me! And the author claims to be 13... Why would a ghost with any sense be kissing and cuddling someone this young? He wouldn't if he had any decency!

Now notice... The author has not yet posted anything...why? Hmmm

If this person were alive, I'd say he displays the signs of a potential abusive partner... Believe me, I know the signs well! Or a possible Pedofile! 😐 🤔 😐
Bluerose19 (3 stories) (164 posts)
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7 years ago (2012-10-07)
airstream- "I would be getting her a psych evaluation, burning sage,...something"

Exactly! 😐
seven25 (18 posts)
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7 years ago (2012-10-07)
air stream'
how do you know it is a lie if you don't even know her the same thing is happening to me

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airstream (13 posts)
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7 years ago (2012-10-07)
This is a load of crap. As a mother of two teenage daughters, I would be very concerned about my child. Especially if things had been happening for 7 years. You cannot tell me that a mother would not notice something strange going on. I would be getting her a psych evaluation, burning sage,...something. I am usually one to give the benefit of the doubt but this one is screaming fiction at me.
Argette (guest)
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7 years ago (2012-10-07)
Yup, what Jav said. It's getting so that I have become very selective about what I read here.
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
+1
7 years ago (2012-10-06)
I thought it was funny that after returning under a different alias, that one couldn't help but go back and admire their previous work. Going on about how it should be submitted for publication and crap. Like an arsonist who comes back to watch the flames, you know? What a joke!

Jav
shellzy (8 stories) (218 posts)
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7 years ago (2012-10-06)
Jav I couldn't agree more. I have been on this site for just over a year now and I am slowly picking up patterns too. Especially (as you have pointed out) the one time posters that always seem to crop up always telling the op how wonderful their story is and what a great person they must be... Yeah totally suspicious! 😆
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
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7 years ago (2012-10-06)
shellzy,
It's gotten so that I recognize the styles of the different aliases. And though they are always under a new name, they are not new to me.
I am betting there will be some screams when I say this one, but go back and compare the writing styles of readdysteady and acuteangles, then tell me what you see. It's getting ridiculous anymore.

Jav
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
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7 years ago (2012-10-06)
I have to agree. It seems whatever happens to be popular at the moment, ends up in a story submitted here. How many times have we ended up finding the source of these fantasies to be from the movies, books, TV, or anime? It does get old.

Jav
shellzy (8 stories) (218 posts)
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7 years ago (2012-10-06)
Also If this is true I don't find this Alex to be sweet or caring. I find it down right creepy. A guardian or protector would not act like this. They will find ways to guide you to make the right choices, not be possessive or scary. Sounds more like a fantasy to me...
shellzy (8 stories) (218 posts)
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7 years ago (2012-10-06)
Im sorry but this story reminds me too much of the movie 'Let Me In' where a boy is befriended by a vampire girl who hurts people at school because he is bullied by them.

l also find your narrative very advanced for a 13 year old and I mean no offense to other teenagers out there but I am just comparing your writing style to most other stories on here written by others this age.

I also become very dubious when people claim to have such detailed conversations with ghosts. And a ghost communicating over chat on a computer none the less? Yeah I don't know about that...
Damali (5 posts)
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7 years ago (2012-10-06)
There is so much fiction out there that romanticize the paranormal. I remember reading and loving this series around age 12ish http://www.megcabot.com/mediator/mediator_haunted.php
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
7 years ago (2012-10-06)
Wow! Talk about timing, huh? I don't suppose they are aware of anything else going on around them, do you?

Jav 😆 😆

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Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
7 years ago (2012-10-06)
Bluerose,

HAH! You have got that one right! And if they do, it is only to tell everyone that had doubts how they don't know because they weren't there.

Lakota,

You couldn't have been more right if you tried. These, are simply full of fantasy and romantic notions.
Oh yeah, they usually throw in the stuff about how the guy protects them against bullies. I'm sorry, but I see this as bait for these girls and I have had it. That's all.

Jav
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
7 years ago (2012-10-06)
karu,
I guess I should have specified more, I do apologize for that, but it is the poster that tries to boost the story that is the problem. You see it quite a bit when stories like this one come up. A lot of newbies just here to leave a couple of posts on stories like this and maybe one one two elsewhere to make them look legit. That's part of the pattern. There are other things as well, but I don't want to give them all away.
Again, sorry for any misunderstanding. When I get this bothered and I find myself posting a comment like my previous one here, I have reached a point of no return and simply wanting to say what's on my mind.

Jav
Bluerose19 (3 stories) (164 posts)
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7 years ago (2012-10-06)
Javelina- You are totally correct with your point. And 1 more thing- I don't know whether any other person has noted this thing or not but I have definitely noted 1 very interesting thing about stories claimed to be posted by 'teenagers'-

"Baring a few, they hardly return to comment after posting their story!" 😲
LakotaWinyan (2 stories) (63 posts)
+4
7 years ago (2012-10-06)
I side with Jav. Too many red flags. Too many perverted men make up this type of fantasy thing to draw in little girls so they can harm them.

If the o/p is a teenage girl, she needs to put the manga (violent Japanese child p0rn fantasy cartoons/comics... Google it!) away and get some real friends, and concentrate on living life and making a goal to achieve when she grows up into a woman! That perfect guy comes along when you least expect him to, when you are ready to meet him and he's ready for you.

There is no such thing as a "caring, protective" incubus/succubus.

Such things like that rarely happen, and when they do, the victims are terrified. They feel violated. Such an entity drains your energy, happiness, makes you frightened and desire to not sleep or be alone, out of the fear of being violated yet again.

I don't know why so many people fantasize about this. It's just not something to desire to trifle with!

MarionK, Karu, I agree. It does sound creepy and invasive. Not a good thing to have around at all.

LW
Karu (5 posts)
+3
7 years ago (2012-10-06)
Honestly, I rather read a lot, but don't reply except once in a blue moon, so nope, not a regular poster. Can't say I disagree with anything you say, Javelina, but I also won't claim anyone to be outright fabricating a story. I take everything I read here with a healthy amount of scepticism either way, but just for a change felt like adding my tuppence, since I rather disagreed with the previous posters. Only the author can say for sure whether it's a true story or not, but don't want to give bad advice if it is.
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
+7
7 years ago (2012-10-06)
Well, I guess it's time to roll up the sleeves again for this one. Here are just a few things I do not feel comfortable with regarding this account of experiences...
~ The author claims to be a 13 year old female. I am not seeing that anywhere in this narrative, something about that claim simply doesn't match up to a 13 year old girl. I have raised three of them, I do have a little bit of experience in this area.
~ This sounds more like an incubus/succubus type story. And I do believe the author is driving it in that direction. There have been others who've submitted this sort of fiction here, and I do believe this to be fiction, for the sole purpose of luring other young girls toward a certain direction. I am being as vague as I can without screaming it out loud. There is a pattern that has been repeated time and time again with these stories. That pattern has obviously been successful for it to be repeated as often as it has been. These are too convenient and far too leading to be anything else. And speaking as a mother of three girls, this bothers me.
~ The next thing that will occur here is the loud accusations and name calling, followed by the ever present, and oh so tiresome,"must get the last word in" syndrome. I say let it go on, I am in no way intimidated by it. And if it doesn't happen this time, it will only be because of what I have said here. The other tactic will be the sympathy train pulling in with a load of shame to dump all over what I have said. I will let that go as well.
~ However anyone feels about what I have said here is not going to change anything. This will continue to occur until others start to pay attention to these patterns. That's all I ask, that other members pay attention and keep your eyes open. I fear for these younger ones that come here and read stuff like this and see it as romantic and fairy tale like. They can be so impressionable and they have much more freedom (for lack of a better word), because of the Internet, than those of us that grew up without it.
~ You don't have to agree with me in this case, but do look at the stats of the posters that have commented before me and you will see a part of the pattern I am talking about. The only "regular" posters to have put up a comment before mine are Bluerose19 and samtillie. All the others are here merely to boost this story as being the real deal, with a couple of posters added that have voiced some doubt. All but the first two I mentioned, have less than 5 or 10 posts to their name. This is part of the pattern I am asking you all to be on the look out for.

Sorry if I have ruined anyone's day here, but I'll risk that over having to put up with this sort of nastiness.

Jav ❤

~~PS~~
The two regular posters are not doing anything wrong here, they just gave their opinions, that's all. It's the others that worry me. Thank you...
Karu (5 posts)
+1
7 years ago (2012-10-06)
I have to say I get the same impression, MarionK. More like a jealous, possessive boyfriend than a guardian angel. He might only be protective so far, but honestly you're still very young. It could just mean there's been no reason for him to be anything but. Rather than getting comfortable with it and just hoping things would be okay I'd find some way to, for lack of a better word, shoo him.
MarionK (guest)
+6
7 years ago (2012-10-06)
Reading all the comments... Am I the only one who gets a creepy feeling in regard to this 'Alex'? Regarding the story he comes across as kind of possessive and invasive, or am I wrong?
Bluerose19 (3 stories) (164 posts)
+1
7 years ago (2012-10-06)
I have to agree with flyclarinet. I read your conversation with Alex, and I remember all that the caring guy said was 'To protect you' and 'to protect you'. The horrible dream that you saw might be linked to what Alex wants to mean 'what he means to you'- 'If anybody hurts you, I won't spare him!' But after all, it was a dream only, so he has 'yet not' harmed anybody in real until now, so relax!

He's definitely a caring spirit and the way he behaves with you, I am sure he will abide by you, if you tell him 'Please don't hurt/kill anyone, even if you care for me.' I think that's it, he will understand.

And well,well,I feel you are lucky enough to come across a 'good' spirit! 😊
RileyAnne (2 posts)
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7 years ago (2012-10-06)
I don't think you're crazy! You basically have a guardian angel. It would help though, if you knew exactly who is he is, last names, any relations to you, or if he is simply drawn to you. I would also accept Alex with open arms. He really does seem like a genuinely nice spirit, or personality - if you will. I understand that he might scare you or freak you out sometimes, I would get scared too, but always reassure yourself that he is your guardian angel. 😉 ❤
samtillie (5 stories) (242 posts)
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7 years ago (2012-10-05)
I agree very interesting, have you had any other paranormal experiences apart from Alex? I am just interested to know as you are feeling a lot from Alex. Let us know. Take care x
flyclarinet (1 stories) (36 posts)
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7 years ago (2012-10-05)
This is very interesting. Looks like you have your own "guardian angel". I for one don't think you're crazy. This has been going on for about seven years according to your story, so it can't be a coincidence. This is the type of entity I would like following me: the kind, caring type. He obviously cares about you, so it shouldn't be too creepy. I would accept Alex with open arms. Next time you two chat, tell him I said hi please.:)

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