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celtcharm (29 posts)
 
15 years ago (2009-01-27)
Thanks so much for shareing this wonderful experience. I met my 2 Spirit Guides for the first time just last year. I have so much to learn and your experience really warmed my heart! Peace, Celtcharm
troyarn (5 stories) (479 posts)
 
15 years ago (2009-01-27)
I'm afraid I'm with DeviousAngel on this one. Although it was an interesting story and I love to read about Native American ways and beliefs, I have a hard time going with this one.
AmberMoonPriestess (15 stories) (158 posts)
 
15 years ago (2009-01-26)
whitebuffalo

You are very welcome.

I hope he contacts you soon in the meantime here are some websites I have found usefull

Shamanism.org
Shmansong.com
whitebuffalo (guest)
 
15 years ago (2009-01-26)
Thank you, AmberMoonPriestess.
I have a LOT to learn, it would seem!
Thank you for patiently walking me through it and not getting all weird when I ask for things to look up. I really appreciate that.
Also, thanks for checking for me with your Blood Brother. I REALLY, REALLY appreciate that. I have, literally, been searching for four years. What a FIND, that I should run into someone HERE that knows someone! Thanks again!
AmberMoonPriestess (15 stories) (158 posts)
 
15 years ago (2009-01-26)
heres a native American woman who fought at the Battle of Wounded Knee, Anna Mae Pictou Aquash.

Wetamoo, mobilized and led her people to fight the encroachment of European colonist during King Phillips War

Many women are Warriors in a different sense than men are, but a few do take up the path of actual battle.

A Spirit Warrior can fight in many different ways for their people, they don't have to fight Spirits of Evil.

Many Spirit Warriors fight to save their people from being crushed into oblivion.

I guess I just am not clear enough in what a Spirit Warrior IS.

A Spirit Warrior can be many things and fight in many ways for their people.

I am a Spirit Warrior in the sense that I am a Warrior and I battle in the Spiritual sense.

I know others who battle in the civil rights realm and are considered Spirit Warriors.
DeviousAngel (11 stories) (1910 posts)
 
15 years ago (2009-01-26)
Oh I know that there have been many women warriors throughout history. You'd have to live in a cardboard box all your life not to know that. I'm talking about in your CULTURE, which is vastly what this story has to do with. I'm not talking Irish culture, I'm talking your Native American culture. Unless you just didn't understand my question, it sounds like you're being evasive.

Blessings
DA
AmberMoonPriestess (15 stories) (158 posts)
 
15 years ago (2009-01-26)
"We also are Blood Siblings through ceremony not actual blood relation, we cam from different parents. I don't remember if I actually pointed this out before or not."

Quoted from a post of mine under the brat-Brat story

I drank water and ate roasted meat and vegetables. I did not think it was important to the main part of the story because I did not eat anything special.

There have been many women throughout history who have been Warriors, some are even Spirit Warriors. Joan of Arc, Tomoe Gozen, Hangaku Gozen, Boudiccia, Vishpla, Aahhotep I, Zabibi, Samsi, Tomyris, Himoko, Jingo Kogo, Mavia, Saimei and Dihya al-KahinaMedb (Maeve) of Ireland, Aife (Aoife) of Alba (Scotland), and Queen Scathach of Skye.

Heres a website dedicated to women warriors.

Http://www.lothene.demon.co.uk/others/women.html
DeviousAngel (11 stories) (1910 posts)
 
15 years ago (2009-01-26)
Oh, really? Where did you say that? Because you referred to him as your "Blood Brother" in your Abandoned House story, which tells us that he is a member of your immediate family. But that's fine, maybe I missed a detail somewhere along the way.

Firstly, what did you eat and drink while you were out there? I don't understand how you could leave this detail out. My first questions, if I found my child after her having been missing for a week, would revolve around whether or not she was harmed, if she had eaten or slept or drank, etc. Basically if she was okay physically.

And still, one thing about my comment didn't change. Women were not called upon during battles; it was traditionally seen as the man's duty to protect his family and fight for his tribe. Why would you be called upon to become a warrior now? You say this battle is "timeless" but women spiritual warriors weren't documented before, as far as I know, so I would think that if all of this is true, you would be chosen to become a healer by default because it is more the role of the woman to be the "healer" of the family rather than the fighter.

Blessings,
DA
AmberMoonPriestess (15 stories) (158 posts)
 
15 years ago (2009-01-26)
smokey

If you had read all my responses you will see where I said I had food and water. I did not hink it relevant to the core of the storie. But I should have known better, it seems to be the one thing everyone jumps on. That or my Teachers name.

Oh well I KNOW its true I KNOW it happened and no matter what I say not everyone will believe me.

I do not believe it was a dream, I was not on a vision quest or dream quest I was not even actively searching for a teacher at the time this happened.
AmberMoonPriestess (15 stories) (158 posts)
 
15 years ago (2009-01-26)
the others were gathered around my wigwam when I found them. I do not know why no official search was called. I did eat and drink.

I mentioned in a post elsewhere that my brother and I are from different families we became brother and sister through a ceremony.

I myself am not blackfoot I am Chippewa.

I am not posting fairytales what I post is completely true but I am already over trying to defend myself against those who refuse to see the truth.
SmokeyKnight (3 stories) (193 posts)
 
15 years ago (2009-01-26)
Sorry, Amber. Gonna have to smoke check you on this one. Devious is correct. You can go several weeks without food (up to 4 weeks). You can go 4 minutes without a pulse before you suffer brain damage. But water you can only go 4 days before you die. You'd have dehydrated and died 3 days prior to the end of this "enlightenment". I'm sorry, I'm been in the Army 5 years.

Montana in the summer is not known for rainfall, so you couldn't have just absorbed water by osmosis. Sorry to burst your bubble.

And a week without sleep? I've gone 4 days no sleep with tons of caffine, but you're trying to tell me you went a week. I was on adrenaline alone when I did 4 days and 3 nights no sleep. They did a mental evaluation on my whole shift in Iraq because we had no chance to sleep with the events happening (I won't get into details for OPSEC reasons). Your mental state would be highly questionable after a week, especially with no food, water, anything. After about 2 1/2 days of no sleep, you'd being to hallucinate. After a week? I'd really question your mental status.

Does sound a little odd that the name was Ravenwalker (which already sounds like a Pagan alias). Sounds very Americanized.

I have to also agree with everyone saying that a missing person's report would have been filed based on how much you express your family cares. Unless they don't really (but that's not my place to call).

I spent about 2 years or so as a Wiccan. I got with a really tight group in Kuwait and I kind of grew a distrust of Silver Ravenwolf. Came across too commercialized IMO. But that's not the topic at hand. I had a guy named Jason who was a shaman. Always stayed with the Pagan circle. He always told me that the best teacher you will ever find will be within you.

So all I can think was maybe this was a dream? Would explain the missing parts, the impossibilities... Is that possible?

>Smokey<
AmberMoonPriestess (15 stories) (158 posts)
 
15 years ago (2009-01-26)
My bloodline is Anishinaabe, more commonly known as Chippewa, or the Little Shell.

We don't have our own reservation in Montana yet so we attend a lot of the other tribes pow-wows. That is how I met my brother.

I used the word tent instead of wigwam because a lot of people wouldn't know what a wigwam is.
AmberMoonPriestess (15 stories) (158 posts)
 
15 years ago (2009-01-26)
surya
why is it odd a spirit guide would know about what had happened in my life. He said he had been watching me for awhile.
AmberMoonPriestess (15 stories) (158 posts)
 
15 years ago (2009-01-26)
sorcha

No I wasn't I drank and shared foood with him. I didn't think it was an essential part of the story but I should have known better.
whitebuffalo (guest)
 
15 years ago (2009-01-26)
OK. HOW dumb am I?
Uh, rhetorical question, Peanut Gallery! No need to respond!
I am holding, in my hand, To Stir a Magick Cauldron by Silver Ravenwolf. SHE (must be TWO RavenWolf's😉 -and nodding) is very insightful, I might add. I only forgot her name. <shrug> Sorry.

I think it interesting about the ANIMALS chosen to portray the Guides to this Guide. Let me explain.
The Owl: (Leave the COLOR of the owl out. The only time the COLOR of the owl really matters is in Harry Potter) Owl's keynote is DECEPTION because she is able to see truth through DELUSION. She is associated with clairvoyance and WHITE magic. Her power is strongest in the night. She is called Night Eagle by some tribes and sits on the East of the Medicine Wheel, the site of illumination. The Pawnee believed she was a symbol of protection. Cherokees believed Owl and Cougar were sacred because of their ability to see in the dark and bringing messages in dreams.
The Oglala Sioux held Snowy Owl in high esteem. Warriors who excelled in battle wore a cap of this bird's feathers in honor of their bravery. The Siouan Owl Lodge believed the forces of nature bestowed keener vision upon those who wore owl feathers.
Other tribes feared Owl and called her feathers deceivers, associating this bird with sorcery and dark magic. Ojibwas believed she was symbolic of death and evil. The Pueblos associated her with Skeleton Man, the god of death and fertility.
Paches were frightened of owls because they believed these birds embodied spirits of their dead.
There is historical proof.
Apache scouts tracking Geronimo were terrified when one of the U.S. Cavalry soldiers had a Great Horned Owl with him on the search. They said that it was a bad omen. They couldn't capture the renegade Chiricahuas if the Owl was present. The animal was left behind.

The Wolf: (Again, color means NOTHING. It is only a description to distinguish him from others) Wolf also symbolizes CUNNING, wisdom, searching, DREAMS, magick, intuition, transformation, death and rebirth, intuition and protection.
Native Americans believe that Wolf is teacher and pathfinder to find new ideas and teach them to the tribe. He imparts a sense of family and loyalty. Moon is the "power ally" which helps Wolf to access the subconscious that has the secrets of knowledge and wisdom. Wolf tells people to seek out solitude to find the teacher within the self so they can teach others about spirituality. He helps people to learn to trust insights when they learn to value the inner voice and to HEAR the deceptions of SELF and of OTHERS.

I still really do not understand. But I will wait with the others for a few answers. The Animal Guides are strong, let us hope they lead where one SHOULD follow.
Thank you.
rhodes68 (14 stories) (1596 posts)
 
15 years ago (2009-01-26)
I just noticed I've been referring to Silver Ravenwolf as a "he" when it should be "she".

Apologies!
rhodes68 (14 stories) (1596 posts)
 
15 years ago (2009-01-26)
Well...you know me TOO so you should have expected I would jump in as soon as you worded that magic phrase "I just... I just can't..." 😉
whitebuffalo (guest)
 
15 years ago (2009-01-26)
Rhodes

HOT DANG, you HIT it!
I have been wracking my brain! And there is was all along! THANK YOU.
Absolutely right. RavenWolf (Silver Ravenwolf, that is) is an AWESOME writer in the "Occultism Circles" (Sorry guys, please excuse the pun) and wrote the book "To Stir A Magick Cauldron", "To Ride a Silver Broomstick" and is the director of the International Wiccan/Pagan Press Alliance.
THANK you. I KNEW it would come to me, if I kept asking the questions.
THANK YOU RHODES for knowing me well enough to know something was tapping me at the side of my brain.
DeviousAngel (11 stories) (1910 posts)
 
15 years ago (2009-01-26)
I am in complete agreement with everyone else here, surprise surprise. I'm sorry but I but I can no longer give you the benefit of the doubt here. Every story you post gets more and more fantastical to the point that it's absurd.

So you apparently went a week without food, water, going to the bathroom and sleep. I'm sorry, but you would be dead. The human body can go for weeks without food, only if you have water. However, if you were to go a week without going to the bathroom, you would die of toxin poisoning, or you'd at least be in so much pain that you would wish for death. I agree with everyone else; your family was still hanging out there looking around for you so frantically? Why hadn't anyone called the police or forest rangers to search for you?

RavenWalker sounds more like a screen name or an occult author than a Native American name. And yet he had two familiars; a wolf and an owl. I'm confused.

Since you mentioned that your brother is a Blackfoot Shaman, I'm going to assume that your bloodline is that of the Blackfoot Indians, especially since the Peigen tribe originates from and still operates in Montana. With that said, the spiritual journey was traditionally a 4-day period of prayer and fasting, not a week period of nothing but discussion with a spirit. Also, it was for males, not females. Females were not a part of the warrior class because they had so many responsibilities to take care of while the men hunted and faught. I don't see why Blackfoot traditions would change so much today because of spiritual activity when they haven't changed in hundreds of years, even in spite of outbreaks of diseases and the misfortunes brought on by the white men.

I don't think you're crazy at all. I don't think you're stupid either. I just think you're looking for attention. Although you accuse us of not doing our research, I think it's you who really hasn't done your research. It's just too easy to find miscalculations in your stories, which you cleverly attempt to justify at every turn. I'm not trying to be mean or evil to you. I just don't come here to read about fairy tales. I come here to read real stories.

Blessings,
DA
KimSouthO (27 stories) (1960 posts)
 
15 years ago (2009-01-26)
hmmmmmmmm, were the authoritie looking for you? Did you ever break for food or drink? When you came out of the tent, were the others just there or did you go back to their area?

God Bless!
rhodes68 (14 stories) (1596 posts)
 
15 years ago (2009-01-26)
There's also an author who goes by that name-he writes about the natural existence and the human experience...he's written many books actually.
whitebuffalo (guest)
 
15 years ago (2009-01-26)
Tent...

RAVEN Walker? OR RavenWalker? You know...

OK, Were you on a VISION Quest? A meeting at the sweat lodge?

A TENT.
Seriously, a Tent?

I am going to have to wait until some other details come in, or get ironed out.
I am STILL missing something.
hobbyholly (11 stories) (572 posts)
 
15 years ago (2009-01-26)
" we looked all over for you, you have been gone almost a week!"

How far from the camp were you? I mean if they were looking all over for you... Ugh

And yeah, I'm with Surya, if you were gone for a week, wouldn't someone call the police? Or organize a large search party?
LostWolff (3 posts)
 
15 years ago (2009-01-26)
native american day/night watch? Not to say they were bad movies but your story on the other hand...

You have to put in a few more details for this to come close to being believible. 😐
whitebuffalo (guest)
 
15 years ago (2009-01-26)
White Owl...
Black wolf...
His NAME is Raven Walker.

I can't, I just can't...

What am I missing?
whitebuffalo (guest)
 
15 years ago (2009-01-26)
OK, NOW I am TOTALLY confused.
Either your Ways are SO different than my own that this is just slipping up over my head, or I need to research A LOT more.
WHAT tribe did you say YOU are affiliated with? Where is YOUR blood from? What clan?
It is OBVIOUS that the research that I have done thus far, does not cover where you come from. In that MUCH of what I looked into revolved around Shaman-ism, that is not too surprising.
We ARE talking about MONTANA, right?
Thanks 😕
Surya (39 stories) (867 posts)
 
15 years ago (2009-01-26)
What I found really weird about the story is how a spirit guide would know about the story of the abandoned house. Then you go one to say you were gone for a week. Surely by the second day at least the police would be informed! All of a sudden your spirit guide is a Shaman and yet you hardly know anything about Shaman's. 😕
Sorcha (59 posts)
 
15 years ago (2009-01-26)
That's an interesting story, thank you for posting!
Were you weak from hunger/thirst when you made it back from the tent in the woods?

Take care!

~Sorcha ❤

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