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BadJuuJuu (guest)
 
10 years ago (2011-03-22)
SmokeyKnight, if you haven't gotten the answer you want by now, you're probably not going to get the answer you want. To be honest, it appears that you are trying to discredit HiddenJoker's story. Granted, I may be reading your comments wrong, if so, I apologize. There are just so many unbelievable tales on here that I'm at a loss for why you keep coming back to stories that don't sound contrived. This story is believable. Unusual, but not impossible. If you are trying to "out" a bit of fiction, there are plenty of stories here that could do with an outting. Again, sorry if I'm just reading your comments wrong. May be lack of sleep, but you're coming off (in my opinion) as kind of over bearing.
Miracles51031 (38 stories) (4976 posts) mod
 
10 years ago (2011-03-22)
SmokeyKnight - When I was 16, I had a very bad experience in the home that I grew up in. As a matter of fact, it terrified me so badly that this is what caused me to shut down my "gifts" for 3 years. I also never spoke of this experience to anyone until I was 33 and then I only told my brother, my mom and my aunt.

My niece told me one day that she hated the bedroom that I slept in when I lived at home. She said it scared her and she didn't know why. I had never said anything to my niece or my daughter about what I experienced in that bedroom or that house. I never told my sister, my niece's mom, about my terrifying experience. I know that my mom, brother and aunt wouldn't have either because my sister denies my experiences.

My daughter was afraid of my little boy's bedroom in one of the homes we lived in. She couldn't explain it either, just that it made her uncomfortable.

My point is, hidden_joker's brother didn't have to have any prior knowledge of her room to be afraid of it. Sometimes that feeling is just there.
SmokeyKnight (3 stories) (193 posts)
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10 years ago (2011-03-22)
Although, I have to ask why your brother would be afraid to go into your old room if there was no knowledge about the history of things relayed to him.
"My brother and I were trying to scare each other, and jokingly, I said I'd go back into my old room."

I find it hard to believe he'd be scared of your old room without knowledge of what had happened.
SmokeyKnight (3 stories) (193 posts)
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10 years ago (2011-03-22)
It could be possible, but if you believe them about it not being them, I really can't say one way or the other.
hidden-joker (1 stories) (14 posts)
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10 years ago (2011-03-22)
My mother denied telling my brother about this, as did he, when I asked if he'd heard it.
I'm not saying this is reason to throw away your theory, I'm just suggesting it might not be plausable.
However, the factor that the both of them might be lying is still in play.
SmokeyKnight (3 stories) (193 posts)
 
10 years ago (2011-03-21)
Maybe he heard the stories from your mother and did it before hand?
hidden-joker (1 stories) (14 posts)
 
10 years ago (2011-03-21)
Although I am sure it was the same ones; I may be wrong. I have asked my mother about it, and her exact words were, "I burned the ones with the circles, they freaked me out."
However, even if she did keep them, I haven't a clue as to how my brother, one, got them, and two, maneuvered them into the room without my noticing - he was standing outside the room when I had gone in.
SmokeyKnight (3 stories) (193 posts)
 
10 years ago (2011-03-21)
Can you recall whether or not the pictures you saw were in fact burned?
hidden-joker (1 stories) (14 posts)
 
10 years ago (2011-03-21)
To anyone I seemed rude to - I apologize, I don't try to sound like I'm starting a fight, but I often come across that way.

SmokeyKnight - My Grandparents have reported never seeing anything past this story; nothing more than the an occasional eerie feeling, or a place in the house that just felt cold. While I agree with your statements, being that it would be easy to mimic something like that, I do, in fact, remember my mother burning most of the old pictures - admittedly, not all of them. We never showed my brother those pictures, but he may have heard about them from my mother. I will look into this, thank you.

Towards Trix - Noy at all, I like to hear a thought out suggestion of explanation, instead of blatant denial. I can tell you that my Grandmother has mostly felt strange emotions in her house - however, given her lifelong back problems, she isn't able to go downstairs. My Grandfather is, and he has always complained at how cold the basement, or more specifically, my old room, always is. This may be just due to faulty heating, but it's been brought up enough that it may be more than just that.

At BadJuuJuu - Thank you for sharing that; I believe I will reccomend that my Grandmother try laying down some rules. I appreciate your compliment, thank you. C:
BadJuuJuu (guest)
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10 years ago (2011-03-21)
I'm in agreement with Trix. An angry child's ghost seems to fit the description of activity. As you no longer live there, it should be easy enough for you to avoid further interaction, but your grandmother may want to set some rules if this child continues to misbehave. Generally, if I feel someone new has come into my house, I tell them something along the lines of, "you should consider crossing into the light. That is your best chance to be reunited with your loved ones. If you are not ready to cross over yet, you can stay here awhile, but you have to follow the house rules. You are not allowed to hurt or frighten any member of this household, whether human, ferret, cat, or dog. If you can't follow that rule, leave in peace now." That's worked pretty good for me so far. For a ghost who has been in the house awhile, you may have to run the rules by them a few times just to get the point across that this is your home and you call the shots. Your grandmother may have to claim her space.
On an unrelated note, and as someone who has been on this site a little while, I think you have been very respectful and mature. I think spring fever is getting to all of us. ❤
Trix (14 stories) (407 posts)
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10 years ago (2011-03-21)
Hi hidden-joker, I believe anger is a condition which the tongue works faster than the mind. That's why I try not to fight, and because there are much better things to do. I admit that sometimes somebody can just light a fire. I think in a way the circle thing is stirring the pot here with your story. Even though it sounds so unreal I can't say you lie, because I don't know for sure. There are so many strange things happening in the paranormal that we can't understand 100%, or some of it even 50%.
I feel whatever it was is attach to the house, because when you left the place it seemed not to have followed you to where ever you moved to. The fact that your mother heard: Ok I'll be there". If you were asleep then who asked the question like for instance will you be there? Maybe there was more than one ghost in that house, but you only saw this 'she'.
What I don't like about she is the anger, and refused to play with you, and mommy and daddy are mean. She bumped your grandmother, just like a naughty angry child would to for attention or out of anger. For me it looks like something was slowly manifesting itself in that house and it started in your room with she'.
What does your grandmother says? Does she experience any other strange things while living there, or do you think it's something with your old room? Sorry for this long comment. Trix

Pjod (3 stories) (978 posts)
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10 years ago (2011-03-21)
eh, I don't know. I believe you may have experienced a child-like spirit while growing up in the home. It seems to happen quite often... And these are just the stories being reported... As there may be many more that are never spoken of outside of the home...

I still say the bro set you up with the recent pictures on your old bed though. I'm not a gambling man, but I'd bet on that one... 😁
SmokeyKnight (3 stories) (193 posts)
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10 years ago (2011-03-21)
All I asked for was the answers to my questions and to voice my opinion based on what I've read thus far. Sorry if it came across worse than that.
zzsgranny (18 stories) (3326 posts) mod
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10 years ago (2011-03-21)
Alrighty then...Let's all cool our heels for minute okay?...

I suggest we begin again...hidden-joker, if you could, please address Smokey's questions...Smokey, that shoud be good for you, right?...Let's not go further in this tangle, we're looking for solutions, not more problems...

Thanks guys!

SmokeyKnight (3 stories) (193 posts)
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10 years ago (2011-03-20)
Hmmm... You want more a story I can believe more than this? I'm sure I could link at least 1000 stories out of the 8000+ on this site. I pointed out where you were rude (maybe I shouldn't have used the word 'snyde' and gone for 'rude'). I'm not saying you haven't read the stories or whatever, you obviously never bothered with the comments since you didn't seem to expect what anyone has had to say. Someone hanging out for a year and reading stories and comments would have made sur to cover their bases.

Us "vets" can't help if we don't believe what you've said to us. I gave my thoughts on your attitude, and then I stepped back and asked questions. I don't believe in holding grudges on here, when I want to find out about a story. So since you didn't bother to answer any of my questions/comments, I'm left to believe you didn't read my comment all the way through, or you were unable to respond. Maybe I just stuck a nerve and you don't want to reply to the whole "Now, for the story itself (as I've tried to avoid this one for a cool minute): the ability to mimic a picture of "black circles" is not difficult, especially to someone who SAW the pictures. So I think it was your family having some fun with you. Did you watch the pictures get burned? My mother kept all of my drawings and paintings from when I was little, and they're in perfect condition to this day. Why would your brother care if you went into your old room if he didn't know what had happened?

You ever bother to discuss things with your grandparents or your mother to see if/what they recall beyond the story?". So, I just asked the same questions and made the same comments AGAIN. Care to answer this time? Or are you getting too mad to respond?
hidden-joker (1 stories) (14 posts)
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10 years ago (2011-03-20)
Towards SmokeyKnight - I sincerely fail to see where I may have been immature.
Or rude, for that matter. I fully expected to see disbelief, and I accept that. However, when I am accused of ripping off from a story completely, you can understand that I may feel the need to defend myself.
Perhaps some of these 'veterans' should take time helping, instead of pointing out what a, for lack of a better word, 'newbie' I am.
Furthermore, I have been reading stories on this site for a good year and half now; However, I only recently created an account.
We're all mature here; why not focus on what I'm asking, and not what you think I stole this from.
Would someone who stole this from a movie be so passionate in defending?
This site is based on trust - trust that a person is telling the truth. If my story does not seem believable, then I implore you, please, find one that is more believable than mine.
Perhaps you need to get facts before you start accusing.
In any case, I will leave this topic now; I'm not going to get riled up over just another critic on the internet.
SmokeyKnight (3 stories) (193 posts)
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10 years ago (2011-03-20)
This whole story drips of rip off from Japanese culture. I didn't find your explaination very clear, please explain better. Use small words, I'm a little slow sometimes.

Your reputation has little meaning here, you're A) new to the site and B) someone with the knowledge you're safe behind your keyboard. So your little snappish comments to the vets around here is a little rude. I'm the first to snap at someone and I've had it out with several members on this site myself. But don't think for one second that comments like "I assure you, it's not taken from 'The Ring', given that I've never seen the movie, so I'm not sure what exactly happens" are going to make this story any more logical. "I apologize for not being specific enough for your taste" was a bit of a snyde comment, don't you think? I'm the kind of person who doesn't care whether you've been here for 5 minutes or 5 years, I'll call it as I see it and if I think you're full of it I'll make sure you know. And most of us "vets" are the same way. Javelina is no exception. So either give all the details (re-read and expound on thoughts as if someone with no clue of the situation would be reading it) or expect "obvious questions" and comments with a healthy side of disbelief brought to your plate.

I didn't see anything to indicate "immaturity" from any of our usual members. However, I HAVE noticed a level of immaturity from you. So I think maybe YOU need to look at what you said maybe looking from an outside point of view and decide where you crossed the line.

Now, for the story itself (as I've tried to avoid this one for a cool minute): the ability to mimic a picture of "black circles" is not difficult, especially to someone who SAW the pictures. So I think it was your family having some fun with you. Did you watch the pictures get burned? My mother kept all of my drawings and paintings from when I was little, and they're in perfect condition to this day. Why would your brother care if you went into your old room if he didn't know what had happened?

You ever bother to discuss things with your grandparents or your mother to see if/what they recall beyond the story?
hidden-joker (1 stories) (14 posts)
 
10 years ago (2011-03-20)
Towards Javalina - I don't believe I was being rude at all. However, if you found it rude, I apologize.
Furthermore, my personal opinion is that it doesn't really matter if you've been a veteran on the site, what matters is the advice you give.
If I had gotten the same words from someone who had joined that very day, would you have made the same argument? Just some food for thought. I believe I stated the reasons I believed it was not a possible answer, and those reasons seemed crystal clear to me.
If you have time to be doubting my maturity, you might like to look at your own. In addition, my brother has denied knowing anything about the occurances told in this story - I suppose it would help to mention that this is not the only strange event that has taken place; Recently, I mean.

Bellatrix - My brother was born shortly after we left the house. When I had moved into the house, it had been just my mother, father and I.
Of course, my Granparents and my uncle lived there too, at the same time.
I hope this clears up any confusion.
Petersspirit (4 stories) (144 posts)
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10 years ago (2011-03-20)
Hello hidden-joker,

A child ghost, as many said, is also my opinion here. There is a young spirit at my brothers house and at one ocation she fisically interacted with us. What fascinated me is the drawings of which you knew your mother had burned them! How strange and scary is that to find them again recently laying on your old bed? Once I had a piece of paper in my own hand writing appearing on my desk at school. A paper I never wrote, it is mind buckling...
Much enjoyed reading your sharing!

Greetings:
Peter
DeviousAngel (11 stories) (1910 posts)
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10 years ago (2011-03-19)
Heather911, um... The devil got to her first? I don't think that God/angels/heaven/whatever and the devil have a race to the finish line to claim people's souls. Going by the Christian ideology of heaven and hell, a child's soul is innocent, and unless she did some really terrible things at a young age I seriously doubt that the "devil" just randomly claimed her and turned her into a demon. Demons are fallen angels and they were not biblically said to be hideous gargoyles with horns and red eyes. They were beautiful angels, and thus capable of even better deception than scary monsters.
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
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10 years ago (2011-03-19)
hidden-joker,
You came here for input, right? You did say you'd appreciate any suggestions. So why are you tossing a very credible suggertion out the window?
In your own words you say "My brother and I were trying to scare each other, and jokingly, I said I'd go back into my old room."
To me it sounds as if your brother is completely up to speed on the story, and you were trying to spook him. So for you to throw out a perfectly good suggestion from a veteran on the subject in such a backhanded fashion doesn't say much for your maturity. And being new here is no excuse to start your reputation off on the wrong foot now, is it?
Beyond that, I enjoyed your story. I just didn't care for your treatment of our veteran posters. We're not just a bunch of strangers on this site. Some people have been here helping others for years. It's what we're good at, helping others. Of course, who's to say you're not doing what you're good at, being rude.
Bellatrix (1 posts)
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10 years ago (2011-03-18)
I'm confused about your brother. In the beginning you said that you were an only child. But when you recently returned to the house you mention your brother. Was he born after you left this house? Was he a step-brother? Would he have known about this incident from when you were a child, before he was a part of your life?
hidden-joker (1 stories) (14 posts)
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10 years ago (2011-03-18)
Towards DeviousAngel, and Worried_Brit_Chick;
I assure you, it's not taken from 'The Ring', given that I've never seen the movie, so I'm not sure what exactly happens.
Nevertheless, I do see where you're coming from. I don't really have a reason to lie; this site is for maturity, and thus, I'll keep that reputation.

Specifically, towards reneespring, the first entire half, up until the line, "This is the last thing I remember", is my memory, as well as the last bit.
The only part told from my mother's perspective was what happened when she had gone downstairs; the rest is what I remember.
Just a clarification, I apologize for not being specific enough for your taste.

At Pjod - I don't think that's a plausable answer, if not only for the reason that during these occurances, my brother wasn't born, and since then, we've seldom spoken of the occurances.
However, he may have found out, though I sincerely doubt it.
Thank you for the suggestion.
ghostgirl122 (1 stories) (10 posts)
 
10 years ago (2011-03-18)
I think she was trying to play with you and maybe she
Wanted you to keep the pictures as a reminder.
Plus I like the name
Pjod (3 stories) (978 posts)
+3
10 years ago (2011-03-18)
you mentioned the part about you and your bro trying to scare each other, just before you found the fresh pictures on your bed. It sounds like your bro found a good way to put a scare in you. I'm not doubting your Mom's version of events from when you were young... But it is very possible your bro knew of the specifics and set you up with some new, drawn black circles...
I just don't see the spirit, all these years later, getting up the energy to create these new pics by herself... With out the help of another child to say, fetch some crayons and paper... If you know what I'm saying...
Worried_Brit_Chick (6 stories) (108 posts)
 
10 years ago (2011-03-18)
I'm leaning towards agreeing with DeviousAngel, it sounds a little too similar to The Ring for me.

However, I would say that if what you have posted is true, I'm concerned that you can't remember anything about it. Perhaps getting "She" to do some drawings for you might help you find out what you need to do to help her move on.
DeviousAngel (11 stories) (1910 posts)
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10 years ago (2011-03-17)
Yet again, sounds extremely reminiscent of "the Ring"...a child drawing big black circles (the well) and referring to an "imaginary" friend as "she"...hm.

I think I'll stay neutral on this one too. If there really is a spirit there, well, then hopefully someone will help her move on at some point.
reneespring (148 posts)
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10 years ago (2011-03-17)
I'm sorry, but you told 99% of the story from your mom's point of view instead of your own... I really want to know: What do YOU remember of this *friend*? Please tell us all that you remember about experiences you had with this friend. Thank you in advance.
Heather911 (1 stories) (6 posts)
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10 years ago (2011-03-17)
So your mother said she saw a black shadow hovering over you, it might of be a demon, because they are black. Maybe the child you were playing with died a horrible death and the devil go to her first. You should go back to that house and tell her that she can't be hurt no more and get her to talk to her, take crayons and paper so maybe she will draw something that might be a clue to why she is there... Last month I saw white shadows and I think something happened to he/she but I also think I know who it was, my brother died in 07 and we live in his old house so Hopefully, all the little black figures are my imaginashon 😆 good luck with the spirit child
hidden-joker (1 stories) (14 posts)
 
10 years ago (2011-03-17)
thank you for all the suggestions and ideas so far - I believe that I will look into the history of the neighborhood, as that's a good start.
Again, thank you. C:
taz890 (12 stories) (1380 posts)
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10 years ago (2011-03-16)
have to agree here with redphx and snowhite sounds like a child in spirit, I know I have had friends say things like your mum heard when I was upset or angry like even if my mum was mad at me my friend would stick by me.

And as for your grandma being pushed a child might give a push if they felt like they were being ignored I would sugest you ask she not to do that to your grandma and tell she that your grandma might not know she is there.
Hope this helps please keep this up dated.
Thanks for sharing,
Carl
snowhite (203 posts)
 
10 years ago (2011-03-16)
I think she is a lost soul of a little child. If I were you, I will try to help her to cross over so that she can be with her loved ones.
redphx (4 stories) (827 posts)
 
10 years ago (2011-03-16)
It sounds like the spirit of a child. I would research the house and the surrounding areas to see if any children had died. She doesn't seem to be very mean I think that she was trying to play with you.

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