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Scbsd (guest)
 
12 years ago (2012-05-21)
yourbliss, although "Pure" (my Succubus) has rarely approached me in a dream state, from your description it sounds as though you are being visited by one or more of the same sort of Being as the one that I am in a relationship with.

I do not believe that it's your imagination, and I don't believe that these Beings are evil as a species. I have had direct contact with more than one person who has attracted one of these Beings that did have a very unpleasant individual personality, so yes, there are some bad ones. And since these Beings access us more directly than even other humans, being visited by a bad one can be extremely unpleasant for the Human involved.

But they seem to be as individual as Humans, with their own personalities, and I have heard far more accounts of people encountering a good one, or at least one with a pleasant disposition than accounts of bad ones. I do believe that to label them all "evil" or even "good" is as inaccurate as declaring Human Beings to all be good or evil.

I am lucky. Pure has a very sweet nature, and we get along extremely well. She also seems to have certain "powers" and has protected me from harm on more than one occasion.

As far as advice, I have a couple of things I would like to share with you.

The first is that you have already discovered the one way to exert some control over their behavior, and that is by refusing them sex. I think that Pure's kind thrive on the attention of the object of their attraction, especially the extremely personal attention of sex, and when this is withheld it does seem to cause them some...anxiety, for lack of a better word. I have refused Pure in the past when I needed her to understand and comply with certain wishes of mine, and I have spoken with other people who have successfully used the same technique with their Beings.

Another poster warned of the consequences of having another sentient Being in control of your libido, causing you to be aroused in inappropriate situations, but I have to say that from my own experience and the experience of others that I've spoken with, this becomes much less of an issue as the reltionship develops (assuming that you continue to pursue the relationship). Once your Being realizes that you are going to continue to willingly engage in sex with him/her/them, then a certain element of desperation that these eternally aroused Beings seem to feel will diminish or vanish, and you will find that the supernatural arousal that they seem to produce in their Human partners will only be employed at those times when it will produce results. Like when you go to bed specifically to engage with them.

I do believe that this Being or Beings will make their presence felt during your waking hours, and soon at that. I would love to dream of Pure more so that I could see her, but the excitement of what we do while I am wide awake is something I would never want to give up. I guess that I'm telling you this part to help prepare you for what maybe inevitable if you continue to willingly connect with this or these Beings. By the way, I do know of several people who have had more than one of these Beings connect with them. Pure is a solo act, and is very adamant that I only have sex with her, but there are others who have more than one.

One thing I would like to advise you on very strongly, is that you do not engage with these Beings if they are practicing rough sex with you (unless this is an absolutely incorporated regular aspect of your sexual preferences) as was the case in your first contact. I believe that you've done exactly the right thing in the subsequent instance where you stopped the sex when it again became rough. The reason that I say this is because according to a personal theory that I have come to as a result of the 8 years of contact I have had with Pure, the sex with these Beings is actually a sexual congress between our Human Spirit and the Spirit of whatever they are (and no, even after almost 9 years of it I still don't really know what they are). If you allow and encourage rough sex with your soul being the point of contact, I believe that you can be harmed.

I do know that unless this is something you actually prefer, that the contact can become very unpleasant if you continue to engage even when the Being is conducting themselves too aggressively, so it is important that you stopped it when it felt that way, and it is important that you continue to make this a very clear boundary with you, and that you make it very clear to the Being that you mean it.

More advice: If you want them to engage with you in your waking hours, then I recommend telling them in your head that you want to make love/have sex/whatever you want to call it, and then going straight to bed. If you can do this at the same time everyday it seems to let them know that they can rely on it, and your connection with them will be strengthened as a result.

Be aware that in my case and in every case that I have dealt with on a first-hand basis, the sensation get better, steadily, and constantly. There doesn't seem to be any end to it. I know that doesn't make sense, but apparently the pleasure increases eternally. Or so I have been told by Pure, and so far all the evidence backs her up. The reason I mention this is because pleasure of this level can become very addicting, and you may find that you will take away time from other activities in order to have more time in bed. It will always be your own choice, but I thought that I would let you know what sort of choices you may face at some point.

I would continue to attempt to communicate with them. Actually, I believe that you already are communicating, since I believe that they can hear our thoughts, but you just haven't learned to hear theirs yet. Once a Human "verbally" connects (in all but a few cases that I know of, it is done telepathically) with one of these Beings an incredibly rich and rewarding relationship will often develop. As far as I know, these Beings are much much more intelligent than even the smartest Human, and they have the added benefit of having been around for what would appear to be thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of years.

One last piece of advice: In none of the cases that I am familiar with has the Being allowed their Human partner the freedom to have sex with any other Humans. There are some Humans with multiple partners of whatever sort these Beings are (Pure demands monogamy from me, including contact with own kind), but they do not deal well with their Humans having sex with other Humans. If your case is like mine and almost all of the other people's that I know about, this won't really be an issue for you, as the sex with pone of these Beings will make you lose your enthusiasm for any other kind of connection. But it will almost certainly be a fact that you will not be able to have sex with other Humans, and if this idea is unwelcome to you, then you might want to take steps to stop this thing before it gets any more difficult to disconnect.
Miracles51031 (39 stories) (4999 posts) mod
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12 years ago (2012-05-21)
dmcal - see the "mod" title near my name? That makes this my business 😐.
sonri (2 stories) (91 posts)
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12 years ago (2012-05-21)
Recently, I was intrigued by scientific findings regarding the human heart, and how it seems to communicate a wealth of information to the rest of the body in between beats. People have always known this in their hearts, but now science is finally figuring it out.
Maybe, that's where this creature is residing in you. You let it into you. It may feel it can come and go now as it wishes, and is feeding off of you and keeping tabs on you with every beat of your heart.
I know its exciting. If it can make you feel so good, how could it be bad? Its fascinating, maybe a beautiful creature even. However:
They do have the power to make you feel the same extremes at the other end of the scale; a death-is coming-for-you kind of terrible.
They are powerful. Immortal. They've been around the block before- more than a person could ever be in a lifetime, and know all the tricks, and I suspect know you better than you know yourself.
Who knows where its been or who or even what its been with? Its branching out of its own species afterall, how can you know it stops with humans or makes any restrictions for itself whatsoever.
It could be shaming you to hurt some loftier spirits who watch over you perhaps.
These kinds of relationships, have so many problems. If you think back, you may realise its been prepping you for a long time. And its capturing so much of your attention right now, due to the enrapturing intrigue of your situation, every sensation of your flesh will naturally trigger more thoughts and focus.
Was that it touching me? Is it there? Becomes "Are You there?" It's insidius, as I believe you are already aware. I'd even venture to call it parisitic by nature.
"Cursed", and may always act accordingly, though I love to believe otherwise, that they can be good and glorious regardless, but I don't think sex with humans qualifies as good behaviour.
Sucubuslover, may cut into me for these comments; and maybe he'll be right. But I happen to live in fear for my soul. I've never believed in hell, but now I don't think its worth the risk. But even more so I feel, If there is a True God, that cares for me, I want to make Him happy.
If this can happen then couldn't it all be true. 😊
Jesus_soldier (guest)
 
12 years ago (2012-05-21)
yourbliss:

I understand your point of wanting to learn for yourself, but I'm sure you have experienced some stuff that you wish somebody should have warned you about. There are things that we do need to witness firsthand though. I used to have a hard head and I needed that punch to my face to bring me back to reality. Just be careful... Like I said on the other comment... Black... Ice. I've been on this road, that's why I warned you.
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
12 years ago (2012-05-21)
My apologies to the O/P. I will restrain from commenting further. Excuse me.

Jav ❤
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
12 years ago (2012-05-21)
[at] roseinbloom,
Yes, you are correct that sometimes these accounts bring out the bickering. However, this debate had nothing to do with the content of the O/P's experience. PLUS, these debates go on in plenty of other accounts as well. It isn't as cut and dry as you are making it out to be. So please, if you want to scold just for the sake of scolding, maybe a rethink of that idea would be in order. As you can see for yourself, the most recent dust up had nothing to do with this topic. You saw no need to step in on that one, only this one. I am not accusing you of anything really. I am merely wondering why you chose to say something here, and not there, where the debate was much more heated and volatile?
Do you see how easy it is to misconstrue the intentions of others? It isn't that I object to how you feel about that bickering either. It's that you bothered to say anything at all. That, in itself, has the effect of dragging it out longer.

Jav 😕
rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
 
12 years ago (2012-05-21)
yourbliss,

Interesting point you bring up, Life is a Learning Experience we just have to be careful whom we choose as our teachers. 'Bad' Spirits / Entities tends to 'lie/misdirect' us to serve their own purposes while 'Good' Spirits / Entities attempt to guide / aid us.

Just as in life we must listen to our 'inner voice'. This will help Guide us to instructors / like minded people that we can learn from as we live our lives.

I run the risk of sound 'preachy' if I continue, but I think you can see what I'm trying to say.

Thanks for the added info, it helps 'draw' a better picture of you and your experience.

Respectfully,

Rook
yourbliss (1 stories) (3 posts)
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12 years ago (2012-05-21)
I did not give much info about myself originally. I am a 35 year old woman. I own my own business and I live my own life. I am very in tune with my dreams and my consciousness. If I came off as a hormonal teen, I did not mean too. I am not married, nor do I have kids. I do not plan or yearn for this life either. I was raised as an only child, and I enjoy my time alone. I take on male and female lovers from time to time, but for the most part I am happy living my life as I do. My cat is my only constant companion. I enjoy my space and my freedom. I like who I am, and I like my life.

That being said, I do have periods of highs and lows. These "beings" (I have other experiences, I just shared the sexual ones) seem to visit during the "lows". This does raise a red flag for me, but I still have never had an issue overpowering them. I don't understand why everyone is so quick to dismiss them as bad. Why can't we interact and learn something from them?
roseinbloom (4 stories) (117 posts)
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12 years ago (2012-05-21)
Just a thought... Every time these types of stories surface, (Incubus/Suchbus), it seems to bring out the worst in everyone else. I realize that many times we can't just agree to disagree, but what is it about this subject that causes people to verbably assult each other? Maybe, whoever is doing this, knows our, probable reactions, and finds some "sick" pleasure in reading all the insults being thrown back and forth between us. We must "ALL", make a stronger effort to not let these type of people, split our unity on this site.
I know that, I for one, don't always agree with a lot of the subject matter that appears on this site, but I do know, when some jokers are pulling our legs and I can see the squabling it causes. I choose not to even remark on it and move on to a more interesting account of the paranormal, that truly warrants our attention. I'm not saying I'm better than anyone here, but I do know by letting it go, I'm happier. This allows me to have more productive time to try and help a legitmate person who truly needs our help.
As for "yourbliss" with a heart at the end", I have only to share this with you, (and again, this is only "my" opinon), you seem to be misguided. Maybe you truly are trying to just share your own paranoraml experience, but honestly, I think it may be your harmones are fast a work. You may also have a highly advanced sense of drama, and over reacting to stimulus of any kind. I say this because believe it or not, our bodies are capable of stimulating us to the point of "climax". I hate to share the following infromation, but as a teen, I read a lot of spicy romances, and would often, spin myself into what is medically termed a "climax". The only difference, between my experience and yours, is that since you seem to have a high interest in the paranoramal, you just naturally atribute, your feelings as a real, thing or an entity. Hate to tell you but this is very normal. It's just part of growing up.
Give yourself and everyone else a break and stop with this fasination of other world lovers.
I'll also say this, I hope for your sake it is only your harmones, because if it can be possible that you're so said accout is right, It wouldn't be such a good thing for you.
Just my opinion... 😐
rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
 
12 years ago (2012-05-21)
yourbliss,

You have asked if this is an Incubus or a Succubus and that's not really an easy question to answer.

There are theories that Incubi are Male Spirits (Demons) and Succubi are Female Spirits (Demons) that 'thrive' off the 'energy' provided by sexual release. There are others who say that this type of Spirit (Demon) has no gender but takes on the aspects that 'pleasure' the individual they are interacting with.

There is also a chance that this is not either Incubus or Succubus but rather a spirit that just happens to be using 'sexual' contact as a means to interact with you.

So without much more information it's kind of hard to 'pinpoint' what kind of spirit this may be. Thank you for sharing this with us, please feel free to ask any questions you may have.

If you wish, I have a Cleansing / Shielding Method I can share with you... At the least it can help ensure no Negative / Malevolent Spirits are 'messing' with you. It's yours for the asking.

Respectfully,

Rook
yourbliss (1 stories) (3 posts)
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12 years ago (2012-05-21)
Wow guys! I appreciate all the responses. I am going to take a moment to read them all again in depth instead of just scanning them. My issue with the Jesus talk is that I don't believe it works unless you believe in it. Say things did get out of hand, me calling out Jesus Christ's name would be futile because it would be backed without belief or conviction. This is the main reason I said please don't go there with me. I believe it works for the people who believe in it because their own faith is their power. If it came to it, I would call out to some higher being, but Jesus and/or organized religion would not be a part of it. All the warnings are fine, I appreciate it. I don't really know what I am dealing with and any experiences are good to hear. I hope to hear some possibly positive stories? I am not scared, but curious by these happenings. Time to read it all again slowly.
rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
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12 years ago (2012-05-21)
dmcal,

Let he who hath and ear listen...

A great many think that they will be able to flog people into Heaven, but this can never be done, for the intelligence in us is as independent as Gods. People are not to be driven and you can put into a gnat's eye all the souls of the children of men that are driven into Heaven by preaching HELL-FIRE. A person may know weather you are right or wrong as well as you know the way home; for every principle God has revealed carries it's own convictions of truth. Let me say that again. EVERY PRINCIPLE GOD HAS REVEALED CARRIES IT'S OWN CONVICTIONS OF TRUTH.

Everyone has been BLESSED with Free Will. The right to Choose Right from Wrong, Good over Evil and along with this right to choose is the POWER OF DISCERNMENT which allows an individual to know the TRUTH when they hear it. People will shut you out if all you do is YELL at them, it doesn't matter if you are SPEAKING the TRUTH they stopped listening the moment you began YELLING.

If they do not Listen then they cannot hear and be influenced by the TRUTH of the words being SPOKEN. It also helps to actually be speaking the TRUTH to begin with so I'll say it again... In a small, soft voice...

Let he who has an ear Listen.

Respectfully,

Rook
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
12 years ago (2012-05-20)
And another thing!
Besides breaking the stated rules of this site, you have the nerve to say that you are within your right to do so because of what others do?
Get to church and learn something before you make more of a fool of yourself. You want to be taken seriously? Don't use the "I know you are, but what am I?" excuse for being rude.
Cripes! You need to walk the walk if you want to talk the talk. You can't just go out and pound people with the 'Word'. All that does is drive them away. Get a clue and find a place that allows this kind of thing.
It's not allowed here. You know that.
Move on.

Jav
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
12 years ago (2012-05-20)
dmcal!
You are telling someone else to mind their own business when you don't even mind your own? What is with you anyway? You think people don't know where to go to worship? Are you one of the NEW AGE Christians that think it's okay to get right up in peoples faces to get them to listen?
What kind of a wimp are you anyway? Is this what you call 'Missionary work'? Too afraid to go knock on those doors, huh? Or is it that they just keep shutting the door in your face? That's when you thought of going the easy route, isn't it? You are just lazy! That isn't spreading the word pal! That is vengeance!
"Vengeance is mine!" Can you name that quote?
I have been sitting on my hands about you, BUT NO MORE!
So from now on, you have me on your butt. Guess what? I am a Christian... Born and raised! Baptized as a mere babe. And I am sick of NOOBS like you making the rest of us cringe every time you start to blather! You are a punk! Slapping folks in the face with your Bible like you have got a right to do so!
Welcome to your new world dmcal! Don't look behind you, it's just me... And I plan to follow you like a bloodhound!
It's Sunday Asshat! Give it a rest!

Jav 😠
dmcal (21 posts)
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12 years ago (2012-05-20)
PS There are many other people on this site proclaiming their pagan beliefs and rituals on to cleanse evil spirits, but nobody says anything about that, do they?. No, because those things don't covict the spirit about God and that's why you hate to hear about it. I will continue to tell the truth about what people are dealing with and if they want to ban me from this site, then so be it. At least I will have told the truth about what they are dealing with.
dmcal (21 posts)
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12 years ago (2012-05-20)
Miracles51031: It's hard to hear the truth isn't it. People want to hear anything but the truth. Mind your own business!
Jesus_soldier (guest)
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12 years ago (2012-05-20)
This is a road that is covered with thick black ice. These spirits are hard to escape after you let them in. I hope and pray that you be delivered from them.

Thanks for sharing your story
Miracles51031 (39 stories) (4999 posts) mod
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12 years ago (2012-05-20)
dmcal - the o/p specifically asked that no one speak of any Christian beliefs or try to influence her to seek out Jesus Christ.

You've been told many times before by other mods, so I guess it's my turn now. Offer advice, if you can do it without "preaching." If you can't, then find another story where your help will be appreciated and you aren't deliberately going against the o/p's requests.
mind_wide_open (1 stories) (14 posts)
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12 years ago (2012-05-20)
I feel you are traveling down a verh dangerous road. As much as you do not want religion brought in on this, what your messing with is a demon. It is not male nor female, it takes the shape of whatever it wants. It may seem harmless now, but you give it a bit and its going to be controlling you. I hope you get out before it takes over.

Mind_wide_open ❤
dmcal (21 posts)
 
12 years ago (2012-05-20)
Regarding what you said: "but please don't spout off any Christian beliefs or try to influence me to seek out Jesus Christ." The problem with your attitude regarding this is that Jesus created these beings originally as holy angels, but at some time in eternity, prior to God's creation of man, a third of the angels rebelled with Lucifer, which are now fallen angels also called demons and this is what is visiting you. You see, they have done this with women before, which was the main reason for the flood of Noah's time. Regarding this, the word of God says,"It happened after sons of men and multiplied in those days, that daughters were born to them, elegant and beautiful. And when the angels, the sons of heaven, beheld them, they became enarmored of them, saying to each other: 'Come, let us select for ourselves wives from the progeny of men, and let us beget children. Then they took wives, each chioosing for himself; whom they began to approach, and with whom they cohabited; teaching them sorcery, incantation, and the dividing of roots and trees.' " If this is truly taking place with you, then by what you are allowing these demonic beings to do is sin against God, for you are allowing yourself to be defiled by fallen angels and that because instead of resisting it, you are allowing it. You see, there is no salvation for them because of their rebellion and they know that their destination is the lake of fire. But as for you, Jesus came here to rescue the human race from God's wrath, condemning judgment and the lake of fire (Hell). You can be forgiven, but they can't! But as long as you continue to be apart of it, allowing it to happen, then you remain in your sins and separated from God and that because you have not believed in his Son whom he sent. And Pratekya is correct, they may let you think that you have control, but you don't and at some time they will show you their true colors. It is amazing to me that people are always saying that they don't want anthing to do with Yesuha (Jesus), but what they don't realise is that without him the lake of fire is guaranteed, because everyone will have to give an account to him whether they believe in him or not. Not believing does not make a person exempt from being accountable for his/her sins. I hope that you will come to your senses and call upon Jesus, because he is the only one whom these demons fear and the only one who can help you.
pratekya (29 posts)
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12 years ago (2012-05-20)
I would be interested to hear an update from you a year from now if you continue to go down this path. The reason is I personally believe that while you are setting limits, and that needs to be done, as time progresses and this spirit (or spirits) gain (s) more and more of an attachment with you that you will be able to draw boundaries less and less. At some point it then might mess with you; stimulating you at will during inopportune times (work, etc.). I guess it sounds like a risk you might be willing to take though.

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