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AmberMoonPriestess (15 stories) (158 posts)
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13 years ago (2009-01-26)
whitebuffalo

Heres a couple of websites with some fun cat superstitions and facts

Http://petcaretips.net/black_cat_superstition.html

Http://www.literary-cat.cwc.net/superstition.htm
DeviousAngel (11 stories) (1910 posts)
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13 years ago (2009-01-23)
My goodness, I completely agree with Kisho. You say that you're a Christian? You talk about vandalizing people's property and wanting to vandalize a church because you think it's the meeting place of a Satanic cult, then you throw away three harmless and innocent little black kittens because of a silly superstition and you come and expect us to believe that you were a victim of some kind of demonic scheme? I think this was karma in action if you ask me. If you're really a Christian, you should be ashamed of yourself. There was nothing Christ-like in your actions whatsoever.

Blessings,
DA
Evarin (4 posts)
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13 years ago (2009-01-09)
This is an interesting story. I am a paranormal investigator and tend o stay away from anything on the demonic side, nothing good usually comes of it. On a side note I owned a black cat for a long time, she was the sweetest thing in the world. I jokingly called her my bad luck charm, but Faye was just a cat no more no less. Thanks for the story!
dreamergal72 (6 stories) (793 posts)
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13 years ago (2009-01-06)
I know I hear black cat is bad luck but that just a statement for words. But Black cats is good never know its friendly you might miss it out of that cat may be friendly and of course you should had put in shelter so people can adopt loving cats.
dreamergal72 (6 stories) (793 posts)
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13 years ago (2009-01-06)
I agree with redon1867 I love cats too and I have one of my own and I don't throw cats out of no where cause that is so cruel to me it get me upset if I see somebody throw cats away like if it just trashbags it not right and its god's animals that made it in this world to be human's friends/best friends. Not just to treat them crueland abuse. Also you going have to learn not to go and mess with church building and Leave satan cult alone too.
Luca (1 stories) (83 posts)
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13 years ago (2008-09-20)
Cool, I also graduated in '05.

Dude, that was reckless, messing with a cult was not smart at all. From what I've heard and read, they can be very persistent about getting even (eventhough you didn't manage to TP them); my guess is that they probably watched you guys entering their territory (so to speak) and decided to give you a little warning with the cats. About the car, no idea, man. But it sure as Hell creeped me out.

After getting rid of the cats, d'you receive anything else?
Brad (1 stories) (18 posts)
 
13 years ago (2008-09-17)
First off, Thank you to Brownie09. And I don't think that all black things are evil, neither do I think all black cats are evil. But the fact remains that 1. I went to this place. 2. It is a cult, I know I didn't go to the wrong place, and my friend was a next door neighbor to the place. 3. The black car was across from me at a 4 way stop, already stopped well before me, I tried to let them go first, but they went after me, then they happened to follow me down 2 roads and almost a 3rd before I said screw that, I'm not going down a trail type road with a car following me. And lastly this all could be a coincidence, I know. But was it sheer coincidence that the day I get back from trespassing on a Cult's property that 3 black kittnes show up at my house when I had never seen them before, my dad didn't know where they came from. Pretty big coincidence I think. Then when I didn't want these demons (cats) in my presence anymore I go to get rid of them and at that moment, those roads, an all black car happens to follow me. I'm not paranoid, dillusional, or very superstitious. But that is a lot of coincidences.
ladyannne (11 stories) (91 posts)
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13 years ago (2008-09-15)
Someone once asked me how the tall black conical witch hat developed, so I went surfing, to little avail. I did manage to turn up an idea that the Salem witch trial era cartoons took the pointed Quaker hats and the Cone of Power and put them together. Sixteenth to seventeenth century women wore pointed hats, and as the higher class adopted newer fashions, the poorer folk were slower to fashion changes, also the ones usually accused of witchcraft. These older, poor, lonely women usually relied on cats for company as well. Add the previous Black Death of Europe, Pope Innocent VIII's decree of 1484 denouncing all cats and their owners, all condemned witches must burn along with her cat and you have public panic running amouk. My ninth great aunt, Susanna North Martin, one of the Salem "witches" hung in 1692 had neither, go figure.
My small town has a very old and serious cult, still alive and kicking, but I would hate to think of anyone bothering them for a multitude of reasons. Besides being an focus no one needs to go poking in unless they want serious trouble, what if the rumor of their location is incorrect, and you end up being the real bane to an innocent? Not something I would want on my conscience.
Aside from the black car, which really could have been anyone for any reason not known to you, three black cats showing up could have been perfectly harmless. Cat families do travel together.
We post here to share and learn, Brad, so perhaps you had something to learn. Maybe your "warning" was to stay away from a place that was harmless after all. Wishing you peace and wisdom!
Brownie09 (6 stories) (293 posts)
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13 years ago (2008-09-15)
Brad first off Reneespring, wasn't talking about that, what she was saying is that you saying a black cat is evil and anything evil is black, that you should try saying that to an african american person.

I myself don't believe that black cats are evil one, I've owned a pure black cat yeah it had green eyes, two = my sister, nieces, and nephews, have a black cat yeah with green eyes. I have a friend that has a pure black cat it has green eyes, and none of them are evil. What everyone was saying is that you shouldn't have carried them off, what if their mother cat was around? She could have been a white cat that mated with a black cat. Yeah some would turn out black, and maybe some black and white. I mean don't take it the wrong way.

As for the Tping that place where the cult is supposed to stay, it is a good thing that you didn't, because you never know what might have happened if you did. Okay yeah there are a lot of high school kids that like to sneak around and drink, but you did the smart thing and didn't drink and drive. With your friends drinking they could have gotten themselves hurt. As for the black car that was following you, it was probably someone that had to go the same way you had to, to get to their house. Lastly, for the car not wanting to unlock, and the head lights going out, I can't explain that either. It could have been something telling you that you shouldn't have tried to mess around with something that you didn't know much about.

Sorry about the long comment, but I am not calling you a liar about the not drinking or tping part, because that part was smart, because you never know what sorts of things that could have happen if you did.

Peace, Luck, and May God Be With You
Brad (1 stories) (18 posts)
 
13 years ago (2008-09-15)
All these people who have commented in the past 5 months seem to think I was drinking, oh and we didn't end up TPing, and it is a satanic cult. Can I prove it no, but those cats didn't just appear out of nowhere, they were brought by evil. Who hasn't TP'ed some one before? I'm soooo horrible, give me a break. And when I dropped those cats off there was a field within a football lengths ways away. So just incase they were regular cats I'm sure they ended up ok. So maybe before you people post anything you should actually read the story. And RENEESPRING, I didn't call the cats theN word. I just heard from a reliable source that was a sign to not mess around anymore. I'm not racist.
Grinder (5 stories) (22 posts)
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13 years ago (2008-09-07)
Sorry to sound mean or anything, but what you and your friends were planning to do doesn't sound much like being a 'strong Christian'. Forking and TPing may be for fun if it's someone you know, but doing it to mess with people you don't know doesn't sound very Christian-like. Maybe it's just me...
monkeyking12345 (5 posts)
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13 years ago (2008-09-07)
đŸ€” nice but be carful there freaks much I got lost in one of there places so yea and they started hunting me down can't really trust them
Kisho (2 stories) (60 posts)
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13 years ago (2008-07-15)
Out of curiosity, beyond the rumor, were there any signs that it was a satanic cult's hideout, other than the fact it was a church with a "Church of Christ" sign? Cause Satanists can't usually stand being around Jesus' name, and other such things. Seems like a really counter-productive place to hold their unholy sermons, or whatever it is they're supposed to have been doing there.

Also, so far as the guy in the car, the fact that he turned down the street you didn't turn down, despite being behind you, lends quite a bit of credibility to the theory that you happened to be going the same way as him for a bit.

As for black cats being evil, there's no truth in that whatsoever. Cats more often than not, of Any color, will actively protect against negative spirits. It could well be that they sensed something was following you home that night and decided to go there to repel it. And as for bad things coming in 3's, that's about as credible as getting bad luck from walking under a ladder or breaking a mirror. The only reason 3 has any significance is that it takes 3 of anything to be considered a pattern.

Going out to vandalise an old church, and dragging 3 kittens away from their home and leaving them far away from any chance of survival, based on rumor and 200 year old superstition? I'm sorry, but it sounds like the only entity acting evil here was you.
ghostluver_aly (1 stories) (4 posts)
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13 years ago (2008-06-13)
just because the cats were black doesn't mean they were evil.
sure black cats were associated with witches in salem and what-not, but like
redone said, they had other familiars, like toads, I'm sure. So if your house became infested with toads would you have gotten rid of them?
also, if you knew it was a satanic cult,
why in the world would you get drunk and try to tp it? If they were bad, then your not very smart in trying to make them
mad...if you really are a strong Christian,
do what God and Jesus would do, and DONT
tp and be mean to your enemies!

God Bless
and I apologize if this message
offended you...
bardsidhe (38 posts)
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13 years ago (2008-06-01)
just because you are p-a-r-a-n-o-i-d does not mean someone is not out to get you...

as for the cliche black cat thing... Well Black is not the face of everything evil after all 'The Devil' is depicted in most stories as a Red Skinned Demon...
Crow's (black) are though to be Messengers and Such from the other world who carry the spirits from this world to the next.

our ancestral cultures are what determine how things will manifest themselves to us...
reneespring (148 posts)
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13 years ago (2008-05-24)
Is that what a *strong Christian* does? Toilet paper people & drink while driving? You think this cult was evil? Take stock of your own character. You left some kittens in the woods to maybe starve or lack for water & potentially die a slow death because of your superstition against black cats? Is black evil? Try saying that around an African American & see the resonse you'll get. Most Satanists don't promote the things you do as a *strong Christian*! Like Satanists are usually loving towards animals and would feel irresponsible drinking & driving, knowing it could hasrm or kill themselves or others.
mizzcrowley (8 posts)
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13 years ago (2008-05-24)
In response to White Buffalo, black cats were associated with "evil" when they were said to be the familiars of witches in the middle ages. This time is a shame to so-called civilized society and Christian clergy whom during this time murdered innocent women young and old, burning them at the stake for witchcraft and "consorting with the devil". These were folk people who were undoubtedly pagans and did not even have the Christian Devil in their belief pantheon. Ironically enough, Catholic priests were the ones who actually created the "Black Mass", receiving monies from noblemen who paid for spells to get riches or revenge on someone. The Catholic Church had to take these wayward priests in hand. The Catholic church also unwittingly promoted Satan as a deity when corrupt clergymen in high places took sides with the noblemen to oppress the poor serfs, taking profit off their work. Since the serf's enemies' god was the one of the bible, this god's known enemy was Satan and therefore, a friend to the common people. This could have been the original start of Traditional Satanism. This and other information can be located in the book "Satan Wants You," by Lyons. Another interesting bit of information is that the god Shiva, in the Hindu religion, is also the god of the common people.
mizzcrowley (8 posts)
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13 years ago (2008-05-24)
I'm upset by two things. That a Christian response to a group they essentially knew nothing about was vandalism driven by bolstering their courage with booze. I am most upset that a superstition caused the author to go out of her way to abandon in a remote area three kittens who may have just been lost from their owners and if homeless, not delivered to an animal shelter. Sometimes I wonder if people live in the 20th century.
Brad (1 stories) (18 posts)
 
14 years ago (2007-12-20)
Ok, juliette. A cult is a group, sure. But they do have a place for rituals, and I'm sure they don't live on the streets. They must have a place to stay. The car had no electrical problems, it never did anything like that other than that one time, coinsidence... I think not. You don't have to believe this story, the cat thing is true. They weren't scared of me, it was easy to catch them. I put out some food for them so they would let me grab them one by one. But it took me more than one try to keep them in the box. Cats don't like to be put in a box. As for the car, it followed me down 2 roads, read the story again! I wouldn't make up the story, its not like I'm getting paid for this, or I'm selling books. This is a true story and you don't have to believe it. But don't go telling me I'm p-a-r-a-n-o-i-d!
Juliette (8 posts)
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14 years ago (2007-12-16)
First of all no satanit cult... But strange rumor and old church, next the car had electrical problems, maybe caused by all of your fear (concious and/or unconcious) or maybe it was already an issue with that car, thirdly, I just don't believe the cat thing - it must have been really hard to catch them! Oh, and one more thing, adding that an all black car followed you down three different roads is just ridiculous. Can you say, p-a-r-a-n-o-i-d? Hehe BTW a "cult" is not a place.
whitebuffalo (guest)
 
14 years ago (2007-12-14)
Thank you redone1867 and FRAWIN for the information! I keep seeing the "black cat syndrome" all over and it is just odd to me. I always thought a cat was a cat. I never knew I was supposed to think some were "evil". I just like them. đŸ˜ČI will have to check the history channels listings to see if I can catch that program. Thank you both again!
redone1867 (4 stories) (37 posts)
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14 years ago (2007-12-13)
ok brad let me just say that I think your in the wrong for under age consumption tresspassing and trying to break in to a church. Now I don't think those things were wise. Or very nice for a young person. Second is your cat female... If not cats that are not fully grown usually do not travel by them selves. Trust me I know this I breed cats. I aslo have 4 black ones and believe me they are not evil in any shape or form... It just means they are rare. Thirdly all things tend to happen in threes but it's also a wives tale. Now you shouldn't have been mucking around with those things and if it was a warning then good. Learn from it so it is not worse next time. Or could it be the mean sob that was following to get back at you. They may not have even been satanic, every town has a so called hell house. I think things were just to coincedental and to easy to debunk in this story and if your suspicions by some stretch are true, you need to watch your self and where you put your toilet paper. I also can't believe you dropped off three innocent animals outside of town and probably miles from their home and mother. Why not take them to an animal shelter instead of freaking out over nothing.
FRAWIN (guest)
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14 years ago (2007-12-13)
whitebuffalo, there is a series on TV called Monster Quest, that had a show on last night about these black panther sightings across the U.S. They had a bit on there aboout how the "black cat" became viewed as being evil. The show comes on the history channel and they will probably show it again some time this week.

FRAWIN
redone1867 (4 stories) (37 posts)
 
14 years ago (2007-12-13)
the black cat theory came about just after religion became big in europe right around the time the entire wart green face square toes came about. Now everyone has a different familiar not necessarily a cat. It could be anything really. Since time began black was associated with demons and evil to some people... But it really goes back to when the burnings and persecution began.
whitebuffalo (guest)
 
14 years ago (2007-12-13)
I STILL do not know anything about satanic worship, and will still not comment on that as I KNOW a comment made in my ignorance WILL offend someone.
whitebuffalo (guest)
 
14 years ago (2007-12-13)
It has been brought to my attention through a different source, that my ignorance was offensive. I am honestly sorry. That was never my intent. Please allow me to word my question so that it may be more clear.
Does any one happen to know where the myth of black cats being connected with evil came about? They are associated with satanic worshippers in this story, and connected to witches in others. Could someone please help me find the ORIGIN of when and why black cats became evil?
They are honored and revered in Egypt, why the difference here?
Again, I apologize as it was never my intent to appear rude, inconsiderate or non supportive. I merely asked as I do not know about cats and religion. Please forgive me, unnamed individual that I have offended. I am honestly sorry and thought my apology should be public.
Thank you.
whitebuffalo (guest)
 
14 years ago (2007-12-13)
Good show, Shane, thank you for a bit of knowledge there. 😊
Brad, WHY would anyone go about to tempt or taunt something or someone they know nothing about, I will never know. I just shake my head. There are things out there worth leaving alone.
How are black cats connected with a satanic cult? Is that just another stereotype?
You know, I can not comment on this one as I just do not want to show my ignorance about this form of worship. I am not knowledgeable in this area, and will leave well enough alone out of respect to it's worshipers. Thank you.
Emma (3 stories) (39 posts)
 
14 years ago (2007-11-14)
I agree with Babylon, shame on you for dumping three defenseless kittens. Furthermore, I'm disappointed that you and your high school friends were out drinking and driving, admit to repeatedly vandalizing places with toilet paper AND showing religious intolerance towards this group you call a cult. Grow up guy and be a little stronger in your faith. For sure, Jesus Would Not Do That!
babylon (20 posts)
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14 years ago (2007-11-10)
hmmm,sorry but I can't really get past the dumping of the poor cats in a box. It is actually an offence in my country. Sorry but I am an animal lover:) good story tho.
mustang (5 stories) (749 posts)
 
14 years ago (2007-11-09)
Hi Brad! Pretty brave of you and your friends to want to got TP'ing some satanic cults domain. So why didn't you TP the place? Was it because you heard scuffling in the building and it scared you off? Well I highly doubt I would have been brave enough to TP some satanic cults place to begin with but if I were I would have just done it and ran! I think you were more curious than anything. Anyway, if the 'cult' does dabble in weird satanic business than they probably knew what you were up to and tried to scare you with the car thing and the three black cats. By the way, black cats are my favorite. They're witchy like! Cool story! Glad it wasn't me. Take your hint and don't TP people's places. 😊 Hope to hear from you soon! Be good! -Shelby ❀
Brad (1 stories) (18 posts)
 
14 years ago (2007-11-09)
I would first like to say to shane, that none of what happened was my imagination. I also have done investigating on satanism. It says people who are satanists are not necessarily devul worshipers, just people who make them selves they're own God, or people who live in the flesh. But I believe these people where I live are the real thing, Devil worshipers. I don't have proof, but just weird stuff goes on over there. For everyone else that commented, Thanks! Maybe I will post another stroy sometime soon.
nydialovesthis (2 posts)
 
14 years ago (2007-11-08)
wow! But how would the cult know you were going to TP their "sanctuary" 😜 that must been a heck of an experience.

be careful next time
ChrisB (6 stories) (1515 posts)
 
14 years ago (2007-11-08)
I wouldn't want to get that kind of warning. I think that was a lesson for all of you and we should never mess with evil. I liked reading that story. Never heard of anything like that. I hope to hear from you soon and take care
Patch (3 stories) (91 posts)
 
14 years ago (2007-11-08)
I agree with Shane, I was actually going to write something alone the same lines. I have Satanic friends. (I'm not satanic myself) ut they're actually pretty decent people. Your story was great. You're luck that you got a warning :)
Shane (13 stories) (1258 posts)
 
14 years ago (2007-11-08)
Damnant quod non intellegunt. Basically people fear what they do not understand. Maybe do a little research and you will find that most "satanist" are not what you believe them to be. It is those who think they know what it is to be a "satanist" that create the problems. Most Church of Satan or C.O.S followers do not go about mutilating animals or performing human sacrifices. How do I know, I have been doing research into the various religions of the world. Good place to start is www.religioustolerance.org, they give you an insight into some of the worlds religions and beliefs. Now was it a ghost or demon that warned you off. It could have been, but it could also have been an overly active imagination or just coincedence for those events that happened as you were leaving.

Peace, Love, and Luck be with you.
KimSouthO (27 stories) (1960 posts)
 
14 years ago (2007-11-08)
I am a firm believer that evil does exist. It carries itself in manmy forms and has jusras many traditions, superstitions and grouoings and good and Christianity.

PLEASE never try to 'mess' with anything that may be evil or want to conjure evil again, especially when you do not know what the ramifications may be. You may not be so lucky as to receive any kind of warning the next time, or the warning may be much more harsh and detrimental in many ways to all envolved.

God Bless!

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