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My Mother Has Seen My Doppleganger

 

So something has been happening lately that at first, I didn't put much thought into. But now it's starting to get strange. First off, I am a complete pleb when it comes to paranormal knowledge. But my mom has been seeing my doppelganger. So I do not know what a doppelganger is and I do not know if it is related to some kind of entity (or possible thought form/tulpa) that's stalked my life (refer back to past stories for that information if you want).

So any help I could get from this would be great. I have a stressful life and have tons of anxiety and symptoms of depression. I state this because some people have pointed out that having negative feelings/emotions can make a person vulnerable to things on the other side.

A few weeks ago or so, my mom woke up in the middle of the night and saw me walk past her into the bedroom holding my laptop. There was no mistake. She saw my exact face and Apple laptop. I didn't say a word to her. When she went to check on me, I was asleep. In the morning she told me about it and she said it scared her. Just today, she heard and saw me again go into the bedroom. When she came out, I was sitting in the living room and she asked me if I went in there just now and I said no.

What the heck is happening now? Now I am extremely sensitive to any spirits/entities that have existed in our apartments and in the Victorian house museums I've been to. So what is happening? Is there a ghost taking on my form? Is it a thought form? As I typed this, I literally heard someone snap their fingers next to my ear. I have no idea what's going on.

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The following comments are submitted by users of this site and are not official positions by yourghoststories.com. Please read our guidelines and the previous posts before posting. The author, DirtCreature, has the following expectation about your feedback: I will participate in the discussion and I need help with what I have experienced.

DirtCreature (guest)
 
2 months ago (2017-05-20)
Thank you ^^

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valkricry (34 stories) (2619 posts) mod
 
2 months ago (2017-05-20)
DC,
This is from the Submission Guidelines: " Although we allow stories from a very close relative, like your parents, or child, who shared it with you in intimacy, not to entertain, we cannot allow stories from "a friend of a friend" as it is not reliable." So, I would say that if it is an experience of a family member that you trust was telling the truth and not embroidering details to make it more scary or entertaining, then it would be submissible.
DirtCreature (guest)
 
2 months ago (2017-05-20)
To the mods, are we allowed to post family experiences if we were not there? I just want to double check before I make a submission.
BlackCatAttack (guest)
 
10 months ago (2016-09-15)
No worries I am safe! Haha. Nothing negative has happened lately. Just weird things.
Goggzy (guest)
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10 months ago (2016-09-15)
Blackcat

I agree the doppelganger seems to be an astral projection atleast things haven't got worse.

I still don't believe it to be negative so I don't think the doppelganger is anything to worry about.

I did think about you and was slightly worried that things may have became negative when I saw the title and I am very glad it hasn't.
BlackCatAttack (guest)
 
10 months ago (2016-09-15)
Still having experiences. I suppose that's just the consequence of being sensitive and having a mother who is as well. You'll never truly escape having a paranormal experience big or small. At least that's what I think haha.

Yeah, Goggzy, for a little while it was just the usual stuff, me picking up on stuff, hearing stuff, but this started happening. My mom witnessed my dopple (or what we've come to believe is me astral projecting) about 4 times now. The last time she saw me when I was asleep. I was rocking back and forth and wearing my sleeping clothes (which consist of a t shirt). She wanted to say something but it disappeared. As of late, my mom has not seen it after that.
Goggzy (guest)
 
10 months ago (2016-09-15)
I haven't been on this for awhile so didn't realise you were still having issues. I came on to start a story before we do a investigation this weekend purely because with 5 minutes of entering a room to talk to the man who has had experience's I ended up with a couple bad Scratch's on my chest.
shelbyloree (5 stories) (255 posts)
 
10 months ago (2016-09-12)
Sorry, yes I think that makes sense to answer your question. Get a little sidetracked typing on my phone.

My family moved every 6-7 years like clockwork growing up. No matter where I went things were always the same regarding the spirit realm stuff.

And when trying to figure stuff out about spirit realm stuff (personally) I'm notoriously awful with my predictions. But it never hurts to research - and take note of little oddities. Everything may clarify given enough time.
BlackCatAttack (guest)
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10 months ago (2016-09-12)
Thank you Shelby and Manafon for your help. I bet my money on it being that and if not, it still makes everything more at ease. I'd love to read those. Going to definitely find these and read them!
Manafon1 (5 stories) (447 posts)
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10 months ago (2016-09-12)
Hi shelbyloree--Myers suggests that a person can conceivably astrally travel when wide awake as (he postulated) our dream life, or "subliminal operations" (thoughts, feelings etc.) continue as we go about our day in a fully conscious state just as they do while we are unconscious.

It seems like a good possibility that BlackCatAttack is unconsciously sending an element of her personality that can be perceived by her mother. The Society of Psychical Research conducted tests many, many years ago, in which a person would consciously try to make their image, or apparition, appear to percipients who had no prior knowledge this was going to happen. Several of these tests were successful and the "apparition" appeared to the percipients as solid and human like.

Although BlackCatAttack wasn't consciously sending her image to her mother, it seems that a similar result has ensued. It's mysterious but fascinating stuff.
shelbyloree (5 stories) (255 posts)
 
10 months ago (2016-09-12)
That may be what Mana was getting to with Meyers' quote. Rather than the problem being embedded or stuck on this plane, everything may be happening at the astral level.

It's just getting confusing because at that level things are so fluid and constantly changing, you haven't got much hope of making any sense out of it. (Just a dream - just my imagination.)

Recall old fairy tales when people would wander off into another 'realm' where time moved differently (one night passed there while a hundred years passed here), or when a sidhe would come at night for her human lover.

Oh, while I'm on the subject, I highly recommend Michael Scott's Tales of the Bard trilogy. It's out of print, so you'd have to order from ABE, but he is an Irish folklorist who wrote really good fantasy books based on his research that covers a ton of information. The cover drawing of the third book (Death's Law) might ring a bell too.

I don't personally get the feeling something is mimicking you and walking around to be devious, I'm sure what your mom saw was you. One more piece to the puzzle.
BlackCatAttack (guest)
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10 months ago (2016-09-12)
If I'm astral projecting without knowing it, is it possible that I only know this entity through that? So it isn't attached to the apartment or my new one, but to whatever it is ghosts live in... Just something I was thinking about. Wonder if there are stories like that on here. People only communicating with spirits through astral.
shelbyloree (5 stories) (255 posts)
 
10 months ago (2016-09-12)
No, it doesn't.

Mine ended up being a real person with astral projection, simply enough. We seemed to have been tuned to the same frequency or something, clicked pretty well and very familiar with each other. Found him a week before his dad died suddenly, then once the mourning passed, we parted. (Extremely edited version here) I haven't come across a similar case though.

I don't necessarily think yours is that cut and dry, but it might not be quite as complicated as it appears right now. Things tend to appear much murkier when you're at the center, but may clarify as time goes on.
BlackCatAttack (guest)
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10 months ago (2016-09-11)
That's very possible. I've tried to figure out for a long time what time period this entity came from but after a while, and looking back at my past, looking through my journal entries, I sometimes wonder if it's even human at all.

You're right though. All reveals itself in time... Getting anxious over it won't make it easier.
shelbyloree (5 stories) (255 posts)
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10 months ago (2016-09-11)
I think it's ok for the OP to wander a bit. It's when commenters get sidetracked the mods stop it.

I've gone back to your previous stories, I'm glad you got ahold of Kat, very similar situations it sounds like.

I was curious about alternative explanations, because for 28 years, I thought I had a ghost following me as well. Or a fairy or some spirit thing, couldn't figure out what he was.

Turned out I had ahold of the wrong end of the stick big time, since he revealed himself only in pieces (didn't even get a name out of him until I was 19) so I was left to ponder the situation for years at a stretch. Yeah, it was annoying. Hindsight it was a no duh, but in the middle of it was a whole lot of what the...?

Hang in there, all may be revealed in time, or not. Maybe someone or something was attracted to your mom, but since she was not interested, or paying attention, it turned its attentions to you, a more interested participant?

To tie in with the Doppelgänger your mom has been seeing, and to tie back in with this experience, maybe 'they' have finally found a way to get her attention or something, don't know.
BlackCatAttack (guest)
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10 months ago (2016-09-11)
I understand you now Manafon haha. Yes, that right there is pretty much why I keep trying to figure out what is happening... It's driven me into a hole trying to figure it out that I've come to the conclusion at times that I must be crazy because it's just easier. "Probably just hallucinating, yknow?"

I've had some theories about it. I do keep a journal with my experiences and haven't seen a pattern... If you go back to my san diego story, I started seeing a shadow man/men and after that, all apartments were seemingly haunted. Now I've seen other apparitions in the NJ apartment but this dark energy is consistent so it's possible this thing originates in the first apartment (san diego) and as Shelby said we have "similar" energies or something.

But again it's just an idea I have. It could be anything really. Whoops, is this bad to go off track on my own published story? I don't know if that's a rule on this site or not.
shelbyloree (5 stories) (255 posts)
 
10 months ago (2016-09-11)
Well if the same thing is happening in multiple locations, I would look at what's consistent at both places.

I'd say it could be attached to an object in the house (even a piece of jewelry, size wouldn't matter), something biological (it could be an ancestor, or recently deceased family member trying to tell you something), or it could be attracted to you based on your energy imprint as you've said.

The last one might be tricky for a human, but maybe not so difficult for something else. Abductees have reported being followed state to state (we know you by your light) and many wonder why they *always* wind up living in a 'haunted' house.
Manafon1 (5 stories) (447 posts)
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10 months ago (2016-09-11)
BlackCatAttack--What I meant is that in the many, many case study books on psychical phenomenon I have read over the years I have never come across a well documented instance of a person being stalked by a ghost. Could it happen? I suppose it is possible and I know there are other reports of such things on this site.

From my perspective, I would think it just as likely there could be other explanations. You seem to be open to that possibility as well. As others commonly suggest on YGS, you would probably benefit from keeping a journal to see if over time any patterns emerge.
BlackCatAttack (guest)
 
10 months ago (2016-09-11)
I did believe I was being stalked before that because I kept hearing and glimpsing at stuff in my new place but there was a part of me that was skeptical of it until the visitation dreams started up here. So it made me wonder why an entity I've seen in New Jersey is now appearing here in Florida. I can't think of any other reason why that would happen other than high emf levels or something else, or maybe even a tulpa I accidentally created." So besides those two possible reasons, it made me start thinking there was a stalker on hand especially since other people have experienced similar things on here. I don't hold steadfast to any theory. It's entirely possible, there is nothing stalking me at all and that I came to that conclusion because of sensitivity to entities or even just energies... Whatever it is it's perplexing.
BlackCatAttack (guest)
 
10 months ago (2016-09-11)
I believed myself to be stalked because I have visitation dreams from the same entity in two states now. So that has led me to believe that. I've read quite a few stories on here of others seeming to have an entity following them.
Manafon1 (5 stories) (447 posts)
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10 months ago (2016-09-11)
Hi BlackCatAttack--I have never read of a person being "stalked" by a ghost. There are lots of cases of spirits being seen in the same location over and over again (referred to as a 'haunting apparition') but someone else would have to comment on a ghost stalker.

However, as you do seem to be sensitive to perceiving psychical phenomenon, it would seem logical that you could have "visitation dreams" and occasionally perceive apparitions. It is probably best not to create elaborate scenarios of ghosts stalking you though. Once you get it in your mind that you are being stalked, every shadow and bump in the night can suddenly seem imparted with a significance they simply don't have.
BlackCatAttack (guest)
 
10 months ago (2016-09-10)
Going back to my stalker, if you've seen those stories... Would me being so sensitive and projecting have to do with why they have showed up in my dreams and why I've seen other apparitions?

Because I wonder if the two are connected.
This is a great discussion.

I saw a story of a woman on here who's husband had died around Christmas? And she was pregnant and crying in the kitchen. She moved out of the house and the people who moved in there reported seeing an apparition of a crying pregnant woman. It was insane.
Manafon1 (5 stories) (447 posts)
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10 months ago (2016-09-10)
shelbyloree--It's very cool you found that Norwegian term. As for the meaning of the quote from Meyers, I believe, what he is saying is that our unconscious, or "dream life", continues to operate concurrently with our waking state. In essence then, an astral projection can theoretically, occur even during an "agent's" waking hours.

BlackCatAttack is seemingly a person who is psychically sensitive and is, potentially, astrally traveling without consciously attempting to do so. This, by the way, is a fun discussion.
shelbyloree (5 stories) (255 posts)
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10 months ago (2016-09-10)
I found the Norwegian term: vardogr. Spell check fought me on that one!
shelbyloree (5 stories) (255 posts)
 
10 months ago (2016-09-10)
Thanks! I wondered if anyone would know what I was referencing. I couldn't find it online, but now I may be able to.

So he is saying the place we go when we dream is like a parallel place, continuing on even when we are awake? And her mom is witness to this ongoing place where the astral self of her daughter is during stress/sleep?

Making sure I'm interpreting that correctly.
BlackCatAttack (guest)
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10 months ago (2016-09-10)
That is fascianting, Shelby and Manafon. It seems there is more to the human and the soul than we can ever imagine.
Manafon1 (5 stories) (447 posts)
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10 months ago (2016-09-10)
Shelbyloree--One term for the phenomenon you are describing is "false arrival" but much psychical literature simply refers to apparitions of the living as just that or sometimes as "phantasms of the living". I found a very interesting quote from pioneer psychical researcher Frederic Myers which is pertinent to BlackCat Attack's experience and the phenomenon of apparitions of the living in general.

Myers wrote that "the continuous dream life which we must suppose to run concurrently with our waking life is potent enough to effect from time to time enough of dissociation to enable some element of the personality to be perceived at a distance from the organism... For I regard subliminal operations (thoughts, feelings, etc., lying beneath the ordinary threshold of consciousness) as continuously going on, and I hold that the degree of dissociation which can generate a perceptible phantasm is not necessarily a profound change, since that perceptibility depends so largely upon idiosyncrasies of agent and percipient as yet wholly unexplained."

It's a very intriguing tentative theory as to how people percieve apparitions of the living. More food for thought of a thought provoking phenomenon.
shelbyloree (5 stories) (255 posts)
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10 months ago (2016-09-10)
I'm not sure how it works either, but many cultures have names for the living wandering spirit, so it must be pretty common (in a broad human sense).

It's maddening, I can't find the name of this phenomenon I read specifically regarding people of Scandinavian decent - I guess they have this thing where people are heard and seen moments before they ever appear.

Say you're home alone, you hear the door open and mom and dad come in, chat, move around, etc. You venture down to say hi, and no one is there. Moments later, they walk in the door and repeat exactly what you had just heard when you were alone.

It's so common they have a very specific name, but can't remember what it is. Must go research...
BlackCatAttack (guest)
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10 months ago (2016-09-10)
Yeah I noticed a pattern. For instance, I really wanted to go inside the bedroom and was about to move myself from my laptop. My mom heard me inside the bedroom even though I was still in the living room. As most people my age, I'm attached to my electronic devices xD So that could explain her seeing me with my laptop the first time. I get anxiety when I try to sleep some nights and the night she saw me, I was panicking to try and sleep and wanted to get out of bed so badly... So maybe there is something to it. It's definitely an interesting theory Shelby.

Maybe she is seeing me projecting because 2 out of 4 situations I was asleep... And the other I was panicking to get up... It's mind boggling to think about. Just trying to figure it out makes my head hurt haha. It makes me wonder how a human soul works in terms of projection.
shelbyloree (5 stories) (255 posts)
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10 months ago (2016-09-09)
There is a film called 'What the bleep do we know' about all kinds of crazy stuff based on quantum physics.

In it they discuss an object being in multiple places at one time at the quantum level, but when you go to check on it, it bounces back to its point of origin (where you left it). It's the same object but in multiple places at the same time.

Maybe your mom is witness to this phenomenon with your doppelgänger?

In olden days everything was a sign of something bad, because everything was a threat and possibly fatal. I had an encyclopedia of superstitions - it was ridiculous what people did when XYZ happened. But they had limited medicine and limited knowledge.

Doppelgängers are still weird and creepy because we haven't figured out what causes them, so they still have superstitions attached to them. I would guess your mom is probably seeing your astral projection when you're sleeping or resting.

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