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zzsgranny (18 stories) (3326 posts) mod
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9 years ago (2011-07-09)
Ashy: Remember just yesterday how miffed you got when you thought someone was "bashing your gods"?...I guess I don't understand how you could turn around the next day and do the same thing... I know you're new here, since I'm not... And I'm being very patient, but so far, you haven't shown a lot of respect for smeone who moderates this site and is probably at least twice your age... Not that I expect you to kiss my butt, but hey, I don't take that kind of disrespect from my own kids, even if they are in a bad mood...

Now, let's wipe the slate clean and start over okay?...With more respect this time 😊
AshyVikernes (1 stories) (32 posts)
 
9 years ago (2011-07-09)
Well now I know thanks. ^^
Just people [no offense] seemed anal at first on this site. But I kind of do understand now. I should research the Wiccan faith more and Celtic Paganism.

The only reason why I said "Morrigan" was because these people are Wiccan and they said demons and it brought back this memory so I was told this one year ago. XD But it is false. But being on this site I hath learned. \o/
Miracles51031 (38 stories) (4972 posts) mod
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9 years ago (2011-07-09)
Ashy - we all have our bad days, some of us more bad days than good. And some of us take our bad days out on others on this site.

But I'll give you a piece of advice. Since you're new on this site, it would be wise not to pass along a "religious rumor" without knowing who you're going to piss off. After you've been here awhile, if you choose to stick around, you'll get a feel for who follows what religion. But it's never a good idea to just come in right off the bat and say something like that, without being able to back it up with something other than "my friend said..."
AshyVikernes (1 stories) (32 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-09)
Sorry if I seemed rude. I am not in a good mood. I just joined this site as well. So sorry if I don't know everyone and everything and so in the "in" crowd. Just sometimes seems like people make me out as the bad guy here.
AshyVikernes (1 stories) (32 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-09)
I didn't need you to tell me. Don't need to tell me twice. Ok so I was mislead. So she told me, then I figured out myself. 😆
zzsgranny (18 stories) (3326 posts) mod
 
9 years ago (2011-07-09)
Ashy: BadJuuJuu's a very devout Wiccan, also, and you just heard otherwise, so, yeah...
AshyVikernes (1 stories) (32 posts)
 
9 years ago (2011-07-09)
I kind of figured she wasn't either because she's a Celtic Goddess and not "bad" at all. O,o
AshyVikernes (1 stories) (32 posts)
 
9 years ago (2011-07-09)
Well that's what I heard from a devoted Wiccan themself so yeah...
BadJuuJuu (guest)
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9 years ago (2011-07-09)
The Morrigan is not responsible for demon attacks on anyone. Never heard that one before.
AshyVikernes (1 stories) (32 posts)
 
9 years ago (2011-07-08)
Yeah I remember the gods showed themselves to me when I was getting into the Norse Pantheon. Was so awesome to see Thor so vivid, Odin too. *-*

I'm not much of a witch or mage. More like a Shaman. I have too much of a warrior mindset to do magic. Like I would practice very simple magics but my mind isn't very good for it. I do have a liking to herbalism and potions. But I'd prefer taking an axe and fight.:P
redphx (4 stories) (827 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
Interesting. It must be that they just feel so old. There energy is very foreign to me. I think that must be the problem. I'm just not used to that type of energy as with some of the Hindu gods. But those gods are really fascinating in that some of them seem extraterrestrial. The Roman/Greek gods I do like. Vesta is one of my favorites.

When I practice though I don't call out for help from anyone. I don't ask permission and I don't say thank you. Like with some Wiccan ceremonies they call the corners and adhere to the goddess and the watch towers. I have never done this. I do enclose a circle of light around me but I rely solely on my own power and will and don't ask for assistance. Like I said I've only asked Michael for help a few times and that was when I knew that I was in trouble. For the longest time I always thought the gods/goddesses didn't like me because I was always looking for a sign from them. It wasn't until I got older that I realized that they aren't supposed to play such a huge role. Humans always say how God leads them down there path. It is unfortunate that more people don't take credit for their accomplishments. Like God didn't make them win that tournament. They did it themselves. I hope that one day more people will start to take responsibility for their actions and accomplishments. Humans are not chess pieces, in a giant game played by the gods
AshyVikernes (1 stories) (32 posts)
 
9 years ago (2011-07-08)
My thoughts? Well I am connected them. They feel very old... Ancient of course.:P

They are of "Southern Spirituality" like for example Norse would be "Northern spirituality". So they do have a different way of doing things. I guess I would consider them very independant. XP Very hard to explain.

Well you can trust some gods/goddesses. It all really depends on who.

Well no. Horus is of the light, his uncle Set is of chaos and dark and you know that drift...

I would really have to say it is all about independence.
redphx (4 stories) (827 posts)
 
9 years ago (2011-07-08)
Rab-You are welcome. I don't think anyone on here has ever said that I say mature things. *g*

Ashy - What are your thoughts on the Egyptian gods? I have never received a very warm and fuzzy feeling from them. They seem to me to have maybe been born into the lower vibrations and aren't necessarily "light"

Yes I don't think Loki is dark but he is considered to be darker if you had to choose a side. And I don't think that any god/goddess can be trusted fully but that would also depend on the siutation too.
AshyVikernes (1 stories) (32 posts)
 
9 years ago (2011-07-08)
I have a friend who is a practitioner of Wicca and has told me The Morrigan is responsible for the demon attacks of the Children of the Lord and Lady. Correct me if I am wrong, please.
DeviousAngel (11 stories) (1910 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
Ashy, I will keep my eyeholes and earballs open. 😉 You and red both have very unique perspectives on things, and I am curious as to both of your spiritual preferences and how they work for you.
Rabidren (14 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
Redphx- I've seriously never heard that mature of an answer on here.

THANK YOU.
AshyVikernes (1 stories) (32 posts)
 
9 years ago (2011-07-08)
Devious:

I got some stories to share as well. But the page is temporary down because they're weeding through stories to see if they're invalid or not. So I have to wait until Monday. XD
DeviousAngel (11 stories) (1910 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
Jeffrey Dahmer and Adolf Hitler were Christians too. That does not mean that everything that came from them was acceptible. I do not PERSONALLY feel there is anything wrong with the Harry Potter series. I actually quite enjoy the books myself. But I suppose that is neither here nor there...

I appreciate your contribution, but unless you have factual evidence that the advice and opinions offered here are invalid, standing up in the middle of a crowd and saying "you're wrong and I'm right!" does not really make you a voice of authority or wisdom. Though I am absolutely fascinated to hear these stories of yours, so I really think you should submit them for posting to the site.
redphx (4 stories) (827 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
Rab. I know angels can turn bad. I actually don't trust them very much at all. But Michael I do. I have had a few experiences with him. The thing about angels is they use their position to the extreme. They are very self rightous and judgmental creatures. Lucifer is still an angel but I don't think he is Gods enemy. I think that the human bible of lies used Lucifer as an example. He was basically thrown under the bus.

The human desire is to control. THey will do that in anyway they can. Lucifer was used to show people what would happen if they disobeyed. People obviously got scared and therefore they were easier to control. Entire wars were fought in the name of God and Jesus. Lucifer didn't turn bad. If you think about it. THe bible basically said if you think for youself and don't follow orders like Lucifer you will be cast out of Gods kingdom and burn for eternity.

People made God to be so ruthless. I don't think it is like that at all. God has given his angels free will too, just like humans. They can make mistakes and they can become mean and hurtful. I feel that most angels do things mostly to benefit themselves.
AshyVikernes (1 stories) (32 posts)
 
9 years ago (2011-07-08)
redphx:

You're welcome!

Well thing is in Satanism they are not worshipping the christian version of Satan.

There is Baphomet but he isn't bad as everyone makes him out to be. He;s helped me with my work already. Very well respected with me. Same with Lucifer. He is a totally different deity. He is led to believe to be a Pagan Sun God.
zzsgranny (18 stories) (3326 posts) mod
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
Rabidren: From your comment, I see you haven't yet read the "Comments Guidelines" at the bottom of the page, so, I'll clue you in on just a portion (Jitow, a little refresher course for you):

"This site offers discussions on the topic of ghost experiences, with people coming from various cultures, so please avoid proselytizing or preaching, unless the author of a story specifically asks to receive feedback from that religious perspective. This site is not about religious beliefs, it is about actual personal paranormal experiences and exploring reality with an open and investigative mind so we can actually learn more about the paranormal, with the same empirical mind set that made science so successful in other fields. Religions have a lot of wisdom to offer in terms of personal spirituality, but they can also limit our knowledge of the world with old superstitions and unproven dogmas. It's fine to share what your religion has to offer as a possible explanation, but everyone has their own, they certainly don't come here to be converted, so please, don't push it on others as irrefutable fact."

This poster has stated that they are Wiccan by faith, so unless you have something to offer that involves the use of Wiccan beliefs, please move on.
Rabidren (14 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
OTL

Wow.

Just...wow.

I'm not going to so anything more, If some people can't even understand.

Just...no. OTL
redphx (4 stories) (827 posts)
 
9 years ago (2011-07-08)
Thanks!

Then I would say that I am LHP. I don't really like satanism because I don't really think it is appropriate, but that is just my belief of course and they can do what they want to. (which is what they do anyway because it is part of their religion)
Rabidren (14 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
redphx, Yes, Saint Michel can be good to call on,
But what I'm saying is, Even ANGELS can turn bad.
Satan was an angel once, now He's God's enemy.

Saint Micheal Doesn't have as much power as God, Although in The Bible It said he was a truly awesome angel.
bacchaegrl (506 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
I have no idea what you just said Rabidren. What? Harry Potter let you cast out demons? Huh? I promised myself I wouldn't get into these sort of things. But my mind is completely boggled by your statements.
Rabidren (14 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
DA, PFT.

Sorry, But Harry Potter isn't satanic.

DON'T BELIEVE ME?

J.K. Rowling is CHRISTIAN. She said it in her Interview.

If harry potter WAS the work of the devil, I wouldn't be able to cast out about 3 demons that dive-bombed in my life~

Now let's be MATURE and not argue on this, I think she really wants some advice~

P.s.- Don't believe in God? OK with that. Your goin to Hell, not me <3

❤ ❤ ❤
Trix (14 stories) (407 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
Why are you so serious about everything, because we have one life and should we not enjoy it girls? Why does everybody just want to fight all the time about senseless stuff? Divious I'm still not mad at you, you know cheer up man!
redphx (4 stories) (827 posts)
 
9 years ago (2011-07-08)
Um St. Michael is allowed to act outside of God. God doesn't control him. Angels have free will just like humans and demons and fae and any other being. I don't understand why people think that God is so controlling and mean like that. God trusts His angels to do the right thing. He doesn't micromanage like people think he does.

Michael is able to cast out the dark. That is what he does. And it is ok to ask him for help.
AshyVikernes (1 stories) (32 posts)
 
9 years ago (2011-07-08)
redphx

Loki isn't quite "dark" although he is a very chaotic god. He likes to mess with people's minds, fates, etc. I've had it happen and it is so annoying. XD

He is not to be trusted of course.

Norse Gods are warrior gods. They are nice though. ^^

Egyptian Gods don't scare me they're quite awesome and I am connected to them via past life.

The Left Hand path is all that is not submissive to a deity (ies). Left Hand paths contain dark and light entities and alignments. Left hand paths do not worship a deity but they hold a mutual respect (I respect them greatly and is connected to them while they respect me and vice versa). I believe honoring a god/goddess is different than getting on your knees and worshipping [being submissive]. I do talk to them of course. They offer guidance to knowledge I seek.

Left hand paths would be Satanism, Spiritualism, and basically anything that's not organized religion or main world religion.

This was very brief but I hope that helped some. ^^
DeviousAngel (11 stories) (1910 posts)
 
9 years ago (2011-07-08)
Ooooh, thank you Ren for that awesome distraction. I much more enjoy arguing with someone who is a fanatical religious nut. THAT at least is a discussion that makes more sense to me. At this very moment I can almost appreciate your prejudice because it has a foundation, even if it makes absolutely no sense.

My suggestion: ease up off of the horror movies and ghost shows. The Dark Ages actually ended quite a while ago, so you can stop trying to crucify witches now. And sorry, but there really aren't many exorcists... Especially ones that watch Harry Potter, which has been condemned by the Catholic Church. The Catholic church has a very strict policy on who is allowed to perform exorcisms, and I seriously doubt having "Harry Potter fan" on your resume is going to help land you the position.
redphx (4 stories) (827 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
I am attacking Devil'sTrix.

Acutally I will stop. I am bordering on harrassment.

I apologize to DT. I did mean to offend you but it isn't very nice.

Red positions halo back on top of her horns. 😜
Rabidren (14 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
ALSO. PLEASE DON'T believe that Saint Micheal can do that.

HE CAN'T.
He can only do it through GOD.

GOD > SAINT MICHEAL

Whatever these people are saying is wrong, sorry.:P
redphx (4 stories) (827 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
Devil'sTrix - you said hell! Isn't that a bad word because it is associated with devils? The devil is now going to come get you because you said hell. He is now going to think that he is allowed in your home.
bacchaegrl (506 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
Trix, please. There is no need to fly off the handle. We all know you haven't really offended anyone. You just made a rather bold claim, and some people asked you to back it up. Please don't feel attacked or cornered. I don't think anyone is trying to do that to you. Please sit back and breathe for a moment. We all know you are a valued poster. This is all based on a huge misunderstanding. Please don't take it personally. No one is here to bring you down. Please understand what is being said to you here.
Rabidren (14 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
Oh gravy, This is big.:/

😲

Yes, this IS a demon. Pretty sure it is.
Well, I heard in your story that it said "Goddess", and I'm almost positive that's what witches say when they do a ritual (watched something on TV the other night)
This will be good practice, I want to be an exorcist when I Graduate~

1ST THING 1ST:
DON'T BE AFRAID. TRUST THAT GOD WILL PROTECT YOU. If your not a Christian, I advise you be one now, Because God's the only one that can stop this.

2. Once you have done this, stand outside your door.
Make the mark of the cross that priest's do (Touch Up, Down, Right, then left) , And walk inside, knowing that god will protect you. (If anything happens, Say this over and over (what I do when somehting happens to me) : "I claim The blood of Jesus Christ, Get away from me". Or, " O Lord, Help me" < Saved me Twice~



Once your in the room, Begin Praying on God to cast this demon out. Trust he will. Bilieve he will. Ask His holy Angels to be with you.

After this, You might want to talk to a priest, ask him to come over and do the rest.

Hopes this helped, It's what I would do If I were in your shoes ❤
bacchaegrl (506 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
Haha, DA! I have to practice being a good girl too. I really do. I just couldn't bear to read one more misinterpretation of what you were saying. It was kind of painful to watch. You had good points, they just didn't go through.
Trix (14 stories) (407 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
DeviousAngel you call me a five year old. You are 24 years logistics field aspiring artist ext. I am 41 year old ICU trained and not falling for your attack! I do anything to offend any one... Why are you offended? If you don't like me say it in my face, what the hell is your problem? The author is the one who should step on my toes here not YOU. Trix.
redphx (4 stories) (827 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
Trix doesn't like things that are devilish. LMAO that is the funniest thing I've heard in a long time. It doesn't make sense then that you don't like DeviousAngel. She has ANGEL in her name. And she provided a wonderful definition of devious so to me you don't make any sense.

I actually like devils. They are so very cute. And to be honest I would rather kick back with a demon that someone who is judgmental enough to not like someone based on the name devil. I hope you know that the devil himself doesn't exist. Lucifer is an angel and will always be an angel.

Devil is a personification of the evil that is inside everyone. It represents that evil that people do and what they are capable of. I do hope you know what a personficiation is. So in essence you are more like a devil than most here. Because you pass judgment on people and think that you are better than most.

I shall now call you Devil'sTrix. LOL
DeviousAngel (11 stories) (1910 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
You're right bacchaegirl. 😊 I will settle down and be a good girl.

Trix, I do not have a problem with you or dislike you as a person, but if that makes you feel justified, I completely support your chosen opinion. May it bring you the utmost happiness. All the love and light in the world to you! ❤

...good girl startiiiiiiing...now!
bacchaegrl (506 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
Aw, come on DA, leave Trix alone. She obviously doesn't understand what you were talking about and misinterpreted your intentions. You don't need to drag this out any longer. We all know what you meant. We know you weren't intentionally rude. Can't we just leave it at that?
redphx (4 stories) (827 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
AshyVikernes

Oh Loki - I really really love Loki. So much that I named my dog after him. This dog though recently passed away about a month ago. I really do like this god though. I am how you say a fan of the dark side too. I don't consider Loki to be dark. In fact I think he is just all fun and games. Whether or not we think its funny is another question. I don't think that he really means serious harm. I think gods sometimes forget how fragile a human is. They can sometimes get a little carried away. I have not had very much experience with the Norse gods. They seem to be a little bit harsher than the others. I don't much like Egyptian gods though, they actually scare me.

Can you tell me a little about the left hand path. I have heard this term before and I am not exactly sure what that means. Someone once told me that I seem to follow the LHP. I don't know:/

Jitow - Jesus is not the only one who can help. Yes Jesus is a figure of the light and in multiple universes for that matter. He is the ultimate light as are so many other gods/goddesses. This statement is just not true. What happens if you encounter a evil entity that doesn't believe in Jesus. The entity would just laugh at you. Sometimes it is better to try to get rid of a being based on their beliefs. Not just yours. So yes Jesus is a great one, but there are other light entites that can help. Like St. Michael for instance.

And I am a witch and I am not from Harry Potter. This was slightly insulting and a little bit ignorant.
DeviousAngel (11 stories) (1910 posts)
 
9 years ago (2011-07-08)
Trix, maybe you are not clear on what "devious" means.

De
Trix (14 stories) (407 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
You know what DeviousAngel, actual it should be just devious. I know you don't like me, and I don't care, because there are, many other people that love me the way I am. I don't blame you for being so dam cold and heartless. Being so devious is going to let you be full emptiness on the end of the day, because you are so cruel. Sorry for invading your page DevilishSia as I said. I respect your believes. Trix. ❤
DeviousAngel (11 stories) (1910 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
...and clearly I am arguing with someone who has the debating capacity of a five year old. Well, I am done here. I guess it's true what they say, Trix are for kids!
Trix (14 stories) (407 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
Devious Angel. I am waiting. I am waiting. I am waiting. I have done nothing to offense you at all! The author should step on my toes... Not you! 😠
DeviousAngel (11 stories) (1910 posts)
 
9 years ago (2011-07-08)
I already did explain. Maybe you are not understanding, but I simply do not feel like repeating myself. Please go back and read my comments again. Tell me how I can explain this any more clearly to you than I already have.
Trix (14 stories) (407 posts)
 
9 years ago (2011-07-08)
DeviousAngel, I don't know what your problem is with me? Explain the problem then maybe I will understand. Trix. ❤
DeviousAngel (11 stories) (1910 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
Trix, please explain how I am attacking you, because clearly something is being lost in translation. Is it a language barrier issue? Because I have been very cordial to you up to this point. I asked you a legitimate question based on your judgment of someone, and I am sorry but saying that you will not reply or help someone based on their screen name is judging them, however you want to dice it.

I am willing to drop this. I just do not understand how you feel I am attacking you and if you are going to make an accusation, please have an explanation to back it up.
Trix (14 stories) (407 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
DeviousAngel, I know everybody is from different cultures here and I do respect that. Devilna says nothing without the story for me. I do not see the devil in everything. I'm not here to judge anybody. I read the stories, and like everyone do reply on those ones that makes sense to me. Maybe I was wrong to reply on Rooks comment, because I'm the ONE who should have posted my experience to try and help other people on this site. Rooks' comment made me feel guilty, because I Know what happened to me can help other people. What is wrong with you? Is it nice to attack me like that-well then enjoy it. Trix. ❤
DeviousAngel (11 stories) (1910 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
Trix: I am willing to take into consideration that you are from South Africa (according to your profile, at least) and your culture is much different than mine. However, I am entitled to my opinion just as you are yours. I did not present it in an offensive or militant way and I am not looking for a fight either. I do have the right to compare my life to the lives of others whenever and however I want, because how else do we understand each other but to compare and contrast our lives? I simply stated that I thought your judgement of that person's character based on their name, which in context (correct me if I am wrong) is meant as "mischievous", was a bit absurd.

So let me ask you, if you knew of someone named "Devilina" who was by all accounts a good person regardless of her name, and you saw her drowning or trapped in a burning building, would you refuse to help her because you don't want to be associated with the devil?

How does that make you less devilish?
Trix (14 stories) (407 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
Hi DeviousAngel, I don't have anything devil' in my house and, yes I won't eat Red Devil pizza and devilled eggs. Thanks we don't have that in my country. Please respect me for that. I by all means don't ever push my religion onto anyone here. If you want to be Devious then be my guest that is your choice, please don't lose the angel part. I am what I am, and you are what you are, and nobody can change that. I'm not here to fight at all. Life is much more than fighting after all. If you don't like me I accept totally. I don't like the devil so what's so wrong with that? If I want to drop a message for Rook here-what's wrong with that? I'm honest out of my heart to tell DevilishSia why didn't and won't stick my nose into her story, and I DON'T judge her at all. She is free to believe in whatever she believes, and to choose whatever name she wants. I will still send my experience to YGS because maybe she will also gain by it. Don't compare your life to others... You have no idea what their journey is all about. With all respect. Trix. 😉
DeviousAngel (11 stories) (1910 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
Trix: I appreciate your kindness and respect on this site, but avoiding someone because their name is "Devilish?" That seems a bit ridiculous. That doesn't mean she worships the devil. My own name is "Devious"--devious is another word for devilish.

With that mode of thinking, you better start avoiding Devil's food cake, dust devils, Dirt Devil vaccuum cleaners, Red Devil pizza and deviled eggs.
celi1997 (4 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
Why are you guys constantly fighting over what someone said, either by commenting or in writing their account? I'm new here so this might be normal, but it doesn't seem like the right type of thing to discuss on this site... I don't mean to be rude but some people don't feel this way... And I find that unfair to the author. ❤ 😆 ❤
Trix (14 stories) (407 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
Jeepgrl16, what's going on in ones heart is what matters most. To fight over religion is so senseless because we all going the same path on the end of the day. Dying, and going to a grave, being a spirit. I'm one of those who want to end up with the good people and not the evil ones. I totally agree with you on the religion part. Every person has it's free will and we are not the ones to judge. I also believe-don't stuck your nose where it not belongs so I'm going to stay put now. Take care. Trix. ❤
jeepgrl16 (12 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
Jitow,

This site is a open minded site and we respect everyone faith and beliefs. I ask you to respect what others people believe in. I think that it is quite rude to say that about others faith and I don't think that you would like it if I said the same thing about Jesus Christ.

Sincerely,
Reba
Trix (14 stories) (407 posts)
 
9 years ago (2011-07-08)
Hi Rook, I apologise. I will after this account send in my whole experience. I'm the one who's supposed to have been writing my experience already a view month ago. I'm sorry I'm like a real snail Rook. I'll get some ' gummy juice' and finish it. Why I couldn't get to finished it, is because of the lost of my beloved dog... When I start to get to it, I end up crying with toilet rolls next to me-tissues is not enough for all my tears I'm still crying over that 'dogchild' of mine.
[at] devlishSia, sorry I didn't comment on your story, but don't take it personal but the devilish name puts me off, and let me feel that I don't belong on your page because the devil is my enemy. Please don't take this too personal. It's only me this is how I am. I don't want anything to do with the devil. I hate the devil so much that I don't want to have anything to do with even his name.

Rook helped me to accomplished some stuff within my household that I was not aware exists. It works for me and I'm going to write about it-finish my next story. It's not easy dealing with negative energy, but Rook taught me, and he is a great teacher. I have lots of respect for him because he is down to earth sharing his knowledge and don't want anything in return. If you do what Rook teaches you-you'll be fine, but you have to put your heart at it. That's all I want to say for now. Take care. Trix. "NS- I will always keep Rooks name up high, because he is a good person always willing to help, so don't take him for granted please."
rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
+5
9 years ago (2011-07-08)
DevlishSia,

I do not mean to 'detract' from your experience but somethings need to be addressed...

The O/P, back on the original experience has commented... (and I quote...) "Thanks Rook I'll try what you said!" This was posted 24 hours ago, so please let's give the O/P a chance to try any and all methods they choose to.

And now for something completely different...

Jitow,

If you've done the research into the advice that has worked, why don't you post it for us to see...it's easy enough to verify if one takes the time, but time is valuable and if you have done this already, share the results with us I'd really like to see them (please name the stories the 'answers' can be found on...).

I've been a member here for a while (Oct 2008) and I don't remember seeing many 'replies' that confirm which 'advice' worked for an individual. I've seen many, many 'Thank you all for your helpful advice' type replies but not very many that have said... 'and the advice 'so and so' gave me about calling on Christ and Heavenly Father was what worked and now I'm 'born again.

So please, post the results of your research in the archives, I'd love to see the results. As I said before, it's easy enough to check if necessary...

There are people on this site I have helped and one of them has said they will try and post their experience. I hope they do post the experience of what was done and the results... But it's up to them however and not for me to say who or what happened...

So, how about it, care to share?

Respectfully,

Rook
Loganz_sis (1 stories) (150 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
DevilishSia

I asked the question for one reason only - you came back posted this second chapter as if nothing happened in between. You had the opportunity to try a few things. It is only fair to expect a response as to how helpful our tips were. By not responding and only posting sequels to your original story you give me the impression that you are here to entertain yourself at the cost of our time.

Rook, honestly I want to consider that she is caught up in a war with this demon and hence has not acknowledged our questions, but for how long?

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AshyVikernes (1 stories) (32 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-08)
redphx:

"And no matter who you pray to the king or queen of those places is not going to help. That is not what they are there for. We have to fight our own battles that is how we learn.

We all have to fight for ourselves and people's faith regardless of what it is, is the reason people have strength."

I really agree with this part. I have no intention of nitpicking you and if it turns out that I am. I am sorry. XD

But I do not have full dependence of the Gods/Goddesses I am connected with. I am of the Left Hand Path. I hold a mutual respect with them...
AshyVikernes (1 stories) (32 posts)
 
9 years ago (2011-07-07)
redphx:

I was blocked from connection with Odin because of Loki [the trickster]. I used some techniques to get passed it and overrided his trickster be-hind and got to Odin. XD And to get it back, it just comes back after the influence of that deity is gone.
redphx (4 stories) (827 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-07)
I think that is what I said to you. In a sense but I am just saying that I can't be blocked from the light. Because if you are of the light you can't be blocked from it. I just don't see it happening. But if you feel that your connection was severed then ok. How did you get it back then? I guess what I'm not understanding is how can something break your connection if your connection is internal. Maybe we are speaking of two different things.
AshyVikernes (guest)
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9 years ago (2011-07-07)
[at] redphx

How do you know? You never experienced it. I've been blocked off once or twice. It can happen, anything is possible. So if you have not experienced it then you cannot claim it cannot happen. I deal with some powerful things, but I do override their power. Not everything is perfect. It is a part of the balance of the universe; because if things were perfect, there would be no problems.
redphx (4 stories) (827 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-07)
i don't ever depend on God or anyone higher up for help. I ask Michael because that is his position. He likes to help people and he can over come the dark as he is a warrior of light.

I have never seen a situation where God himself (of Jesus for that matter) would come down and step in between a person and their asttral attacker. The reason this works is because their name gives the individual strength. Their inner strength becomes more powerful and it takes away some of the fear. I do agree to a point that fear attracks these entities. People fear all the time. But fear can also be helpful to people as it is an instinct for us to know when something is wrong.

For you to say you have no fear would be like saying you are a robot. Nothing can ever come in between your physical body and your astral body. They also can't block you from anything. The entities that we deal with here are basically just bullies. They are not powerful by any means. Sure they are stronger than us at times but there are way worse things out there. They don't have the power to block signals. That is silly. And no matter who you pray to the king or queen of those places is not going to help. That is not what they are there for. We have to fight our own battles that is how we learn.

We all have to fight for ourselves and people's faith regardless of what it is, is the reason people have strength. But nothing can ever block a persons connection to the light. It just can't happen.
AshyVikernes (guest)
 
9 years ago (2011-07-07)
"It is my belief that if an individual reaches out with all of their 'might, mind and spirit then no 'lesser' power could interfere with that 'line of communication'."

This is true I do agree with it. But you misunderstood what I said. There are many things possible in the astral realm but if you see it through and bring forth will and mind you can override their "blocks". It doesn't have to be "written in a faith" it is reality and this stuff can happen. Fear creates weakness. Fear let's yourself defenseless. I speak of experience not what books tell me what to do. So have no fear, show courage and strength and have the will to fight off malevolent entities.

But sometimes the Gods and Goddesses can be very busy and completing godly tasks. Sometimes they can catch on to what is happening.

Like for instance, I saw Ra and Anubis physically watching over me while I sleep. ^_^ Was so cool.
redphx (4 stories) (827 posts)
 
9 years ago (2011-07-07)
He is St. Michael the Arch Angel. That is what I call him. And no he isn't Christian. If you ask an angel what religion they are they will laugh at you and say they are from the light. They protect everyone and follow no set human rules called religion. I have a very close bond to Michael as he has helped me in a few occasions. He didn't care that I am a witch. There is no religion in the "Gods" eyes. How silly would that be. Jesus himself wasn't even Christian and most people who are Christian are so far off base from what they should be they don't even know it.

Thanks Rook for the quick lesson in Michael. I love how you know as much as I do! And probably a lot more. It is nice to have someone I can learn from for a change.
AshyVikernes (guest)
 
9 years ago (2011-07-07)
[at] rookdygin

You obviously took what I said and butchered it. If your will and mental/aura defenses are weak or not properly maintained then that entity has the ability to block YOUR connection (Third Eye) to obtain the connection to a higher power (s). I got this "information" from personal experiences. I do lots and lots of astral work. There are a lot of powerful entities out there. Think and see things in color, not in black and white.
celi1997 (4 posts)
+1
9 years ago (2011-07-07)
Wow! I can see that some of you think it's her fault... It's not. I don't think she wants this thing following her around. No one would. My friend says that when you start attacking some one for what they believe you need to see yourself. ❤ 😊 ❤
DeviousAngel (11 stories) (1910 posts)
+1
9 years ago (2011-07-07)
Agreed with bacchaegirl... I appreciate open minds, intelligent minds and inquisitive minds. Rook, you are one of those wonderful people that has all three. Keep up the good work!
bacchaegrl (506 posts)
+2
9 years ago (2011-07-07)
Rook, I just want to tell you that I really enjoy your well researched comments, it makes us all become a little more knowledgable when we talk about this kind of stuff.
daisdemons (1 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-07)
the fact that she/he's kissing and touching you could mean that he is friendly and the way you act with your fiance angers him. He could have a secret adoration for you. 😕
DragonStorm80 (1 stories) (440 posts)
+1
9 years ago (2011-07-07)
DevlishSia ~ I would re read over every post of advice that Rook has posted to you, he has a lot of knowledge and is genuine in his views to help you (I WILL sit down one day soon and pick your brain by the way rook he he)

I have heard that putting pure salt over all your doorways will help deter unwanted "guests" and having lavander (potted or planted in the garden) outside the doorways to your house will do this also (if I'm wrong here guys let me know)

I would have thought burning lavender incense would help with this too?

I hope things get better for you soon ❤
rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
+2
9 years ago (2011-07-07)
VAmplifier,

The O/P is worried and scared enough without people saying things like...It's a Demon, RUN... Oh know it's a demon it must want your soul or something. You may mean well, but please think about how you phrase things before posting.

I admit that this experience strange but it is my OPINION that it could just be an angry spirit but non demonic in nature. There is nothing in either of the O/P experiences that 'screams' DEMON. It is more than likely a negative entity and just trying to generate the kind of atmosphere that it can thrive in.

Respectfully,

Rook
rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-07)
Order, Order... People take a deep cleansing breath... Let it out slowly. Now some explanations are in order...

Calling on the Goddess... Most Wiccan's call upon the Goddess... The Goddess is 'Mother Earth' and in most 'circles' She is the strongest of the Entities with-in Wicca.

Saint Michael: Which Church are you referring to? It seems each 'Church' has it's own 'version' of who Saint Michael is... Be it Arch Angel, Saint or a combination of the two. A few examples...

Roman Catholics, Anglicans, and Lutherans refer to him as Saint Michael the Archangel and also simply as Saint Michael.

Orthodox Christians refer to him as the Taxiarch Archangel Michael or simply Archangel Michael.

Jehovah's Witnesses, Seventh-day Adventists, and certain New Age Christian denominations refer to Michael as the Christ Michael, or Christ before he became man.

So Michael be he Saint, Arch Angel or combination of the too depends on your belief's.

Then there is this...

"Spirits/Entities can block all spiritual communication to a higher power (s)."

Ummm...sorry, but where was this information derived from... It makes no sense, in any Faith or Belief system that a 'lesser entity' could 'block' communication with the Highest Entity, Divine Power, God or Goddess. If a lesser being could do that then there truly would be no defense against attacks from Negative Entities, Demons, Spirits Call them what you will. It is my belief that if an individual reaches out with all of their 'might, mind and spirit then no 'lesser' power could interfere with that 'line of communication'.

Now having said these things, I wonder if you have developed beyond what you need to learn from Wiccan Teachings... Life here is a learning experience and as we grow, develop and learn certain knowledge and belief's and faith assist us as we Grow and Develop. If calling upon the Goddess no longer holds the Strength it once did for you then perhaps it is time to experience and/or try other Faith's / Teachings. I am not saying being Wiccan is wrong, heck I was a solo practitioner myself, but as I learned more I discovered that Life is a Journey of many turns and ones Personal Belief's change based on experience. I am now involved with a Church again (named once... But I'll avoid mentioning it here) and even so I keep an Open Mind because even the 'Teachings' in my chosen Religion have been interpreted by MAN at some point... And may not be exactly what Heaven Father intended them to be...

Another poster asked if you had attempted what I suggested... I pose the same Question... Have you?

Thank you for the update, please keep us informed and consider different ideas from those concepts you have been raised with, you may just find the Help you need comes from with-in and not with-out.

Respectfully,

Rook
reymarkvil (10 posts)
+3
9 years ago (2011-07-07)
CUT the crap the lot of you! Its not about religion! And for your information religion is not even the case here. Who can tell who's religion is the best yeah yeah yada-yada.its stead of worrying about those thing, let's all think of a way on how to help DevilishSia here on how to get pass her current situation.
Loganz_sis (1 stories) (150 posts)
+1
9 years ago (2011-07-07)
DevilishSia

Have you tried anything that Rook advised you of?
AshyVikernes (guest)
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9 years ago (2011-07-07)
It is not that your Goddess cannot make it go away. Spirits/Entities can block all spiritual communication to a higher power (s). I have had it happen to me once when I tried contacting Odin. I can offer some advice to get past that spiritual blockade. Also set up some aura shields and mental shields so it cannot tap into the mind and block you.
Jitow (362 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-07)
To Redphx-I think that you have Saint Michael and the Angel Michael mixed up. Please explain who this saint michael is and what exactly did he do to gain his sainthood. I have never heard of St. Michael. Now there is a Michael the Angel that was created by God as His warrior and messenger, he is nothing but Christian since He was created by Jehovah, Yaweh, God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, Father of Jesus, the angel Michael's very essence is Christian and nothing else. It is this type of misinformation and deception that lead people from where they should be to where they cannot get out of. This st michael must be the patron saint of goddess whatever that is. God actually told us all very distinctly in His word that we are to seek no ther God before Him and that we are to worship and love Him only and we are to love our neighbors just as He loves us.

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zzsgranny (18 stories) (3326 posts) mod
 
9 years ago (2011-07-07)
robertar: What are you refering to with this statement?

"I just witnessed a substandard board that deletes accounts with no warning when person posts contrary to the hive mind."

No one's account on this thread has been deleted... 😕
robertar (223 posts)
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9 years ago (2011-07-06)
I don't understan how what AD said is 'nonsense', especially when this story agrees with his claim. It might be inaccurate, but it does seem to make sense, not nonsense.

Maybe demons are attracted to wiccans, how do you prove they are not? Especially when the Goddess isn't helping!

And how do you throat force someone over the Internet? Is there some throat force app?

I just witnessed a substandard board that deletes accounts with no warning when person posts contrary to the hive mind.
Little_dandelion (2 stories) (16 posts)
 
9 years ago (2011-07-06)
Physical attacks are the scariest. This may sound wierd but when I feel a physical touch of a demon I sing. I don't know why but it works. 😁
Madyrina (68 posts)
+4
9 years ago (2011-07-06)
Devilishsia: in your last story you said that you come from a family of Wiccans, have you asked your family members for help and advice?

I know on the last story that it was suggested that you do a blessing, cleansing, or smudging have you tried any of these?

Don't worry you didn't do anything wrong to call this, demon or not. Demons are truly nondiscriminatory, they don't care what religion/faith/belief you happen to follow.

Just an observation in general: It seems that when a Christian is being plagued by the "demonic" it's a test, while if it's someone from another religion that person is being "damned", in my opinion, as a Christian; it's hypocritical, unloving, and uncompassionate, and well, not very Christ like. Just my opinion... No just by BELIEF! ❤
celi1997 (4 posts)
 
9 years ago (2011-07-06)
I feel really bad for you... You said in you first story (I think) that you first had this feeling when you were nine... Did anything happen around that time? Is this the worst it's ever been? I really wish you best of luck. P.s. I'm sorry if I sound rude I'm just really curious becuase my mom said she used to see demons around our house when I was a baby... I don't believe her but maybe...
WaitingForDaybreak (3 posts)
+3
9 years ago (2011-07-06)
As I read your story, I tried to imagine what would be going through my mind if that happened to me. But I couldn't imagine it, because it's too frightening and disturbing for the human mind. I am so sorry you had to go through that and I'm glad your fiance was there to help you! I'm guessing that since you said "Goddess" that you are from a Wiccan religion, but I will still pray for you to my God. (I'm a Catholic) I'm not Wiccan, so I do not know how your religion deals with evil spirits and demons. Perhaps do some research? I hope you don't have these experiences anymore! Again, I will be praying for you! ❤
DeviousAngel (11 stories) (1910 posts)
+3
9 years ago (2011-07-06)
bacchaegirl: Don't worry, it was a typo demon. They're all over the place.
bacchaegrl (506 posts)
+2
9 years ago (2011-07-06)
Also, by religeon, I mean religion. Don't know what came over me. Maybe it was a demon. Sorry about that everyone.
bacchaegrl (506 posts)
+2
9 years ago (2011-07-06)
That's right Adventist, you don't know much about the wiccan religeon. I think, if one believes in demons, and I do, they aren't drawn to any particular religeon. What I have heard, and I know it's not always the case, is that demons tend to seek out the spiritually weak. Not that everyone on this site who has a demon is weak. However, they do all belong to different ways of thinking. I don't know where you heard that "fact" about demons. Maybe it's an honest mistake, maybe someone you trust told you that. But I try not to go around spouting my ideas as hard core facts, you will confuse a lot of people and you will make few friends.
zzsgranny (18 stories) (3326 posts) mod
+5
9 years ago (2011-07-06)
Adventist: What?...Sorry to echo you Devious, but "Demons are drawn to the Wiccan religion"?...Maybe it's just that you're ignorant of that religion, or your own religion teaches that non-sense, but please: before you make any more statements such as that I would hope you do the research and enlighten yourself before making those assumptions about any religion...

We TRY not to bash the wide array of beliefs present on this site...
DeviousAngel (11 stories) (1910 posts)
+5
9 years ago (2011-07-06)
Demons are drawn to the Wiccan religion? Wow, is that something you made up all by yourself? Because that is SO unoriginal. I appreciate your trying to give the author advice but could you please try not to force your religion down people's throats? Thanks.

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bacchaegrl (506 posts)
+4
9 years ago (2011-07-06)
I understand, I will never be quick to criticize again. Well, I probably will. But hey, nothing personal.
redphx (4 stories) (827 posts)
+3
9 years ago (2011-07-06)
your story really concerns me. Nothing should be allowed to that to you. It is gross. Even though you are wiccan you should ask for St. Michael to help you. He is not Christian by any means. He is a warrior of light and does truly exist. He has helped me in some of my times of need and I am not even a wiccan I am a witch. I don't follow any religion. You should call on the power of the white light and surround your home, you, and your family. I wrote out in detail on another story how to do that. I don't remember which one so that isn't very helpful to you. This can't continue and it will start getting worse. This thing is dark you start to counter it with pure white light that I feel is the only way
Halo123 (1 stories) (4 posts)
-1
9 years ago (2011-07-06)
Sorry bacchaegrl Sticky Keys Evil sometimes the info is what's inportant
bacchaegrl (506 posts)
+1
9 years ago (2011-07-06)
I know what evil is, but I've never heard of EVEL. Is that some sort of reverend jargon that I've never heard of?
Halo123 (1 stories) (4 posts)
-2
9 years ago (2011-07-06)
Hello
Sorry to hear of your dillema inside and outside of your house. I am a Reverend that has had the abilty to sence when spirts are around and have been Clirvoyant since I was 13 seeing and hearing spirts. Now I'm 48 and have some info for you. This EVEL THING, thinks you need and want it around. Cleanse yourselfs and your house and also the grounds of the property. Two Reverends here will be praying for your STRENTH,CLARITY,AND HOPE IN LOVE AND GOD.
Greenwood19 (1 posts)
+2
9 years ago (2011-07-06)
Wow, you've got a serious problem. I'm a Wiccan also, so the only advice I can give would be to cleanse your house then bless it. Basically make your whole house as sacred as your altar. Then cleanse and bless yourself as well to make sure this thing isn't attached to you specifically. If you want more help or advice, email me directly. Germanpoet3 [at] aol.com
epic_fail (5 stories) (51 posts)
+1
9 years ago (2011-07-06)
Oh, and sleep with something sacred or holy. Christians usually use amulets of Michael, a cross, or the bible, and those are the only examples I can come up with. Whatever your religion considers holy or sacred or something that symbolizes protection, I urge you to carry it with you at all times and urge your fiance to do the same. Since he protected you once, this thing may be angry at him and may try attacking him as well.
epic_fail (5 stories) (51 posts)
+2
9 years ago (2011-07-06)
You're wiccan, yes? I read it in your first story. I think you need to bless yourselves and your house POST HASTE. No waiting to see if it will get better, DO IT NOW. Whatever you believe in, you must believe in it wholeheartedly, or this little bit of Hell will sense your hesitation and pounce. God or Goddess, they exist inside us, and you need to believe that she will protect you no matter what.
Mabs_Sith_Lord (72 posts)
 
9 years ago (2011-07-06)
Forgive my lack of knowledge, but what 'goddess' was your husband referring to? Is he/are you Hindu?

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