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Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
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6 years ago (2011-09-25)
wow that's amazing! It's good to know that I was able to get through to you.

Yes things are much quieter and I am quite calm, thank you. In fact very calm and I just had a call from a mum who is interested in lessons for her 8 year old. This happened as soon as I opened your email! Can you believe that? I opened your email and my phone rang! For work! I choose to believe that it's you sending or doing whatever it is you are doing. This call was legitimate, definitely, and I was recommended by a mum from a group of 3 little 8 year olds who I started with last Wednesday. That little group was one of those positive things on the horizon I mentioned to you before but had difficulty in getting off the ground.

During these difficult times, work doesn't come easy here in Greece so it's kind of like a miracle. I now have one lesson continuing from last year, a second with the group of 3 that came out of the blue when I met you and started with the rosemary. There was some sort of delay or blockage and the first lesson kept being put off. I created your shield on Wednesday and that same evening we had our first lesson! Now a third lesson recommended from that group arrives when I opened your mail tonight. This is not coincidence. This is you doing this every time we communicate... I will continue to send positive thoughts and energy your way.

ummmmmmmm Just had a thought. You say... Things should be quieter and should remain that way... Just realised what you mean, don't know exactly how but thank you!
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
Yep, I can mute the cell but not the land phone. I met a woman back in August and we have become friends. She lives nearby but she's been away on vacation and also helping a sick sister of hers. She's come home for a bit and she called me. I found a can of cockroach spray and went and spent a couple of hours with her. Felt good to get out for a while. She wanted me to stay awhile longer but I don't want to risk being out too late. She doesn't understand my problem with the psycho but doesn't matter, I got you
rookdygin (24 stories) (4325 posts)
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6 years ago (2011-09-25)
Let whoever it is leave a message. No reason you have to answer an unknown caller. Is there a way to 'mute' the ring tone on both or either phone?

Rook
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
Rook, here we go again, house phone and cell are both ringing one after the other, withheld number!
rookdygin (24 stories) (4325 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
Vanessanda,

We are all on a journey and it's a journey that requires you 'learn as you go'. I have lots to share, but just as much to learn.

I am glad that I am able to help you on this part of your journey, it seems that I may indeed be your Guide at this period in time. Glad I can do it and I'm happy to be here for you.

Respectfully,

Rook
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
I thank you from the bottom of my heart and soul. I feel your energy and your positive thoughts. Just knowing you (even from a distance) makes me feel safer. I may be wrong but I feel you are some sort of guide. Some people here go to a priest regularly for spiritual guidance. I've often thought about it, but due to circumstances, which I've explained to you, it just hasn't felt right. I think I've found my spiritual guide.

I also thank you for your patience with all my questions. You know they come from a pure heart. I'm just not as informed as the rest of the people on this site.

With gratitude
rookdygin (24 stories) (4325 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
You should be able to shield yourself and once complete then work on the home in the same setting. Just make sure you are completely done with the personal shield before you begin the home shield.

I'm glad that I've been able to help you. Feel free to continue asking questions. I'll be getting relieved with-in the next hour so I'll answer when I can...I've got another round to do here on the Hour.

Be Well, Be Safe. I'm sending positive thoughts and energy your way.

Respectfully,

Rook
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
Yep, starting from the beginning "feels" right for me. If I went straight to step 2 I would feel that I have not done it the right way and I would have doubts in my mind of the shield being complete or effective
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
I felt safer even after the first time and I thought maybe do it once a week until I completed it 3 times. I even thought, you know, 3 times over three weeks. Actually, it's exactly one week today anyhow since step 1 first time round but I felt more of an urgency today because of yesterday. This just strengthens my belief in doing these rituals in three's, that this is right for me personally. I haven't done the personal shield yet. Can I do that kapaki (on top of the home shield) at the same time? Or does it have to be separate occasions?
rookdygin (24 stories) (4325 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
If you are doing it in 3's. Then start at the beginning each time. As we have discussed, each time you do this will make it a bit stronger until you've completed setting it up 'your way'.

Rook
rookdygin (24 stories) (4325 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
However you are most comfortable doing it.

When I do it I tend to Open/Air/Sweep the entire home at once... Then come back and do the actual Shield. There are no set rules however... Just do it however 'feels right' to you.

Rook
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
Rook, I started on the 2nd round today. I'm still airing the house. Or can I skip that part each time and go straight to step 2?
rookdygin (24 stories) (4325 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
Vanessanda,

I'll find out more and post it as validation. He sounds like the type that needs to be kept at a distance. I will work on helping with that. Have you completely done the Technique 3 times? Or are you still working on completing the third one?

Rook
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
trust me on this one Rook. The person on the bike is the same person calling. I've put the caller off before with all sorts of excuses like 'sorry I'm booked". I have even been down right rude to him. His persistence alone was disturbing. I believe your shield was making me keep him at a distance even though I have been desperate for work. But each time I shook him off or backed out of a meeting with him, he would call straight back and arrange a new meeting. This time he didn't call until almost 24 hours later. He needed time to think this one out. I have more thoughts about him but I don't want to tire you too much.
rookdygin (24 stories) (4325 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
It sounds as if that may have been what he was doing... I can't say for sure... He may not be the person calling, but maybe he just happened to see you at the bus stop as he rode by on the bike...

Just remain calm... Keep an eye out... Keep the doors and windows locked and the phone at your side...

Respectfully,

Rook
rookdygin (24 stories) (4325 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
Just making sure...It's going to help with what I'm going to do later. I'm glad your calmer.

Thanks for your Trust and Faith. Remember forewarned is forearmed... I will do what I can, but Greece is a long way from Texas... If there is a Friend who can come visit I think that would be a good idea... At least someone who can come by and walk with you to the market and such.

Respectfully,

Rook
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
Rook I don't know if it makes a difference or not but I had arranged to meet him at a busy bus stop because he told me he has no car and would be using public transport.

I was closely checking out any passers-by because I half expected to see the blast from the past. When I saw the bike rider, he had the jacket on. But, when he followed me home, he had taken the jacket off. It could have been because he saw me checking him out when he rode past close to the stop and he tried to change his appearance. And, he probably told me he was coming by bus to distract me so I wouldn't take any notice of a bike rider. Just to show you how sneaky he has been.
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
You also got the glasses too, Rook but they were both mine. The maroon and the glasses come together too. If you hadn't insisted on the maroon, I would never have thought of my own glasses. It's more than excellent
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
Oh my God, Rook. Were you looking at him through myyyy eyes? My marooned rimmed framed eyes?

Ok I'll be waiting, in the meantime I will take step 1 of personal shield ❤
rookdygin (24 stories) (4325 posts)
+1
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
From my initial Validaition:

"Blue and grey (silver) bike.

Tan khaki style pants, sandals (dark brown, closed toe). Light tan (dirty white?) windbreaker style jacket over a maroon t-shirt?

Extremely Receding hairline and glasses."

I missed his shirt color (actually light blue and dirty).

The Maroon color was actually your glasses...

If that is correct then I have an excellent place to 'start' once I get home.

Again, you are not alone. Make sure everything is locked up and that the phone is close in case you have to use it...

Respectfully,

Rook
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
You saw glasses and you saw maroon. Put the two together Rook! They were both mine. You were 100% right from the start. As you said I was confusing you a bit with my emotions that's all. I'm calming now, thank you for being here for me.
rookdygin (24 stories) (4325 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
Here in about 10 minutes I have to make a round here in the building I'm guarding. That will take 15-20 Minutes. I'll be back afterwords...

Rook
rookdygin (24 stories) (4325 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
The refresh arrow on my browser is blue in color... It is to the left of the address bar.

I understand your scared... But you can't let him do that to you... If you have a camera take pictures of him and then go and speak with the police... Perhaps they can compare them... If there was a case from before... And see if it's the same guy. I won't be able to get a really good 'reading' until I'm off work.

Respectfully,

Rook
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
anything you do or say is fine by me. Itrust you must have worked that out by now. Maroon glasses rook!
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
i found it it was 2 little green arrows one clockwis and one anti
rookdygin (24 stories) (4325 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
Red rimed glasses...Lol...

See your not alone in all of this. Looks like it's an 8 hour time difference... I won't be able to do much until I get home this morning, that will be 0600-0630 my time so about 1400-1430 your time. I'll 'do my thing' and post about it here... That won't be until I go to work Sunday night at 2300 (0700 Monday Morning for you) If that is alright by you that is. If not I'll e-mail you. It's going to be alright.

Respectfully,

Rook
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
I haven't steeeped foot out of the house since rook. Therel's a kind of arrow to the left of the http addrsss is that the refresh. My entier bodfy is in spasm is it fear or is something happening?
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
Rook Il'lm looking at the frames of my reading glasses... You could easily call them maroon very easily
rookdygin (24 stories) (4325 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
Dear Heart you need to press the refresh button on your browser window... It looks like an arrow going in a clockwise circle somewhere near the address bar...

Take a deep breath... Did you happen to pick up the Wasp Spray like Jav mentioned? I do not think you will need it but better safe than sorry.

Respectfully,

Rook
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
LRook we are still on daylight savings so it'ls 10. 07 now. We switch I don't know november I think or oct I cantl' remember. Of course you have my lpermission
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
My reading glasses rook! I was pleeking at him through the curtains through my reading glasses. I was wathing him through the dark red frames of mly reading glasses! Oh my...
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
so nervous I got time wrong it wasn't 10. 45 it was 9.45 Its now 10am athens greece tim. I don't know if its delay or you're not on yet but I'm still not getting a post from you so I'm goonna quickly do step 1 of personal shield while the phones have gone quiet back in a bit
rookdygin (24 stories) (4325 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
I'd ignore him... Or answer and say that sense he missed your last meeting you've gone and filled your calendar... And there is no longer any room for more people.

I haven't had time to do much more...

So the bike, jacket... Pants and shoes were all part of what he was wearing...

I have to ask this was your Blouse/Shirt a dark shade of red or maroon in color? That would complete the validation...

I am here until 0430 CST time USA...It's 1100 your time now so that puts me 9 hours behind you...I'm going to do what ever I can to help you... Do I have your permission to do so?

Respectfully,

Rook
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
Yes receding hair line. Not a friend at all. I think it's somebody who traped me twice before on the pretence of wanting english lessons. LThat happened about 7 or 8 years ago. I can't be sure because back then he had a full head of heair. Is it the same guy rook? I tM 90% SURE it is

Rook I have a feeling he's going to come by again today
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
rook no marooon it was dirty blluish grey tshirt
The phone has stopped ringing. I haven'lt read your comments yet haven't had a chance. Soon as I switched on computer to find you he started callling
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
Rook, no glasses my phones are ringing off the hook! Isw it him, it must be him the number is silent and he has always called from silent number. Everything else is right! He wants to try for 11 today I thillnk. Ev Its 10. 45 athens time
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-25)
Rook,
Just got back on and checking here first.
You're welcome, both of you.

Slept all day and got up to print some shirts. As soon as I get cleaned up I'll be back.

Jav 😊
rookdygin (24 stories) (4325 posts)
+1
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Vanessanda,

I'm getting...

Blue and grey (silver) bike.

Tan khaki style pants, sandals (dark brown, closed toe). Light tan (dirty white?) windbreaker style jacket over a maroon t-shirt?

Extremely Receding hairline and glasses.

I need to know friend or foe? I'm not feeling anything except your emotions... Your fear... Your nerves so I'm not picking up on any other emotions...

Jav,

Thanks for helping here.

Respectfully,

Rook
rookdygin (24 stories) (4325 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
This explains why I slept so bad. I'm not normally on line on Saturdays as it's my 'day off' but had that 'feeling' that said go check.

Jav,

Contact me... Oh screw it I'll contact you via e-mail...your getting my phone number cause this could have been avoided...

I have a card reading to do for one friend and my 15 year old daughter is telling me there is 'something' under her bed that wants to eat her feet... So it's time for me to 'Re-Shield' the house 9it's been 2.5 years so it's more that 'due').

Stand by for that e-mail Jav.

Respectfully,

Rook
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
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6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Jav I don't know anymore. But I'm calmer again now. It comes and goes in waves. I'm going to close up all the shutters and lock up and go have a lie down I think.

Thank you again so much. I don't know what I would have done without you today.I'm going to put up the personal shield as well but ican't I just odn't have the energy right now.

I love your stories about George. He must been a lot of fun to have around. I wonder what he was like in the flesh

With love,
Vanessanda
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
+1
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Vanessanda
That is true. Now what? Hhmmmm...
You can always have a male friend come over each day for a couple of weeks to makw it look like you are never alone. Or borrow a neighbors dog by offering to walk it for them.
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Except that he hasn't called back yet to re-book or to see what reaction he gets from me. I don't think he will. At least I hope not. Surely he's figured out that he's been sprung, don't you think. He's probably thinking right about now. "Hmmmmmmm did she see me on my bike?" "Was there a screen on her doorbell and she recognised me." I had told him that if he was late that I would not go ahead with a lesson because I had other things to do. He promised he wouldn't be. My problem is that he now knows exactly where I live
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
+1
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Vanessanda
That's why he kept ringing the doorbell. He knew you were home. But that's not the point. He was purposely late after he had begged for lessons. He could have come up to you in the street but he chose not to. All his fault, not yours. Don't let yourself feel bad. He is an idiot! And now you must tell him he needs to go elsewhere for lessons.

Jav
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Javelin, he was right behind me! I raced home and went straight to the computer to find Rook and hadn't even finished telling him the story before the guy started buzzing on my doorbell! He was right behind me Jav. Seconds behind me!
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Vanessanda
I'm still right here with you. I have to make a cup of tea though. It sounds good.

Jav
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Javelin I make my own sourdough bread. It's risen beautifully and ready (has been for a while) to go into the oven. So, if you get a whiff of fresh baked bread in a few minutes, it's coming from my place 😆 Come have a taste
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
I'm better Jav thank you so much. The breathing is coming easier and I'm starting to calm. I haven't moved off this site though except to make my cuppa or to peek through the curtains or to pace. I haven't even gone in to check my email, yet. I just feel safer staying put for a while
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Vanessanda
You're right about them needing space. Since my daughters are now grown up, my dogs get spoiled rotten! I just can't help it, they are so cute!

Jav
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Vanessanda
You're welcome.
That's what this site does well. Once you get to a point wher you feel more relaxed you can work on that shejld. It really is amazing how many people have come back to say how well it has worked for them. They even sheild their cars and out buildinds. How are you doing now hun?

Jav
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Jav I just peeked at your profile and it put a smile on my face. Sorry there's some sort of delay with my computer and your posts dont' get here very fast.

The problem here is that we don't have gardens. These apartments are like cement jungles. I see dobermans and rotties on balconies and I can't help thinking how cruel it is. You would probably have lots of space for your babies.
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Javelina, I've just made a cuppa and I'm trying to control the breathing! How did you know? I'm trying to take deep breaths but I have a problem when I'm anxious. The fear is slowly diminishing so maybe he's gone or thinking of going. I'm not sure yet. I've just had a quick look at your profile. Thanks for your help. When I couldn't find Rook I went into a real panic. Thank you for grounding me. ❤
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Vanessanda
Have you ever thought about getting a dog? I have two dogs. If you look up my profile page there is a photo of my dogs, I love them like my kids. Yhe white dog is "Rocky" and the brown dog is "Tazer". NOBODY messes with my house or property with my dogs around.

Jav
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Vanessanda
You can do that now, put up a shield for yourself. That's a great idea!
Rook does care. That's what I know for sure. He cares about each person he helps. He always checks on us. That's just his way

Jav
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
When I feel safe, I will go out and get the wasp spray for sure. I wouldn't be comfortable with a gun and there's always the possibility that they will wrestle you for it and turn it against you.
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Vanessanda
Don't let this guy make you feel small. That's what they do, try to make you feel threatened. You are going to be fine, I can feel it. You have us too. We can all concentrate on sending you protective vibes and energy. It helps. Remember to breathe normally

Jav
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
You know what Jav? Rook told me that when I had completed the shield for my house, that I should use the same ritual to protect myself. I haven't done that yet. I am still using the rosemary soap though
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Javelina, that explains why I feel safe just 'knowing' him. Come to think of it, Rook (not the cops) was the first person I felt the need to contact.

I don't have a decent neighbour. The only one lives a few streets away and she's away on vacation
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Vanessanda
Pepper spray is nothing compared to wasp spray! With the wasp spray you can be further away from the person, no need to be close. It shoots really far and if you go for the face you can't lose. It will temporarilly blind an attacker giving you enough time to either flee or bash them in the head with a heavy object. Police departments here reccomend it as a very efficient deterent

Jav
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Jav you're right, I need some sort of protection. I don't have anything. I need some sort of spray. I tried to get pepper spray when I had the stalker in the past but I was told it was illegal here. Someone told me to buy a small can of hairspray and that it would do the trick but I guess I had relaxed a bit because I stopped having late lessons.

In fact one his requests were for him to come to my house in the evenings and I told him I was booked every evening (lie) so it had to be mornings.

It's scary that this could happen in the mornings too. The stop where I told him to meet me is right next to a little park outside a supermarket. In the park there are always always always a group of little old men who meet for a chat. It's never empty. So when he rode past on his bike he would have seen 7 or 8 little old men as well as peoople going in and out of the supermarket Even so, his intention was obviously to come into my home at all costs. I believe Rook's shield stopped him.

I still have an uncomfortable feeling in my chest. I don't think he's given up yet. It's in my chest this time and not in my stomach
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Vanessanda
You should always have a plan B. That's my rule. The wasp spray is great for those who don't own guns. Myself? I prefer my 357 hand cannon
Don't let this guy in the door if you are alone. What about any neighbors?

Jav
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Vanessanda
Yes, it's your shirld protecting you. And probably Rook too. He does thatstuff. He can "view things from very long distances. It's pretty cool too.

Jav
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Sorry, it wasn't 11.03, it was exactly 11.08. Imagine how bad my feeling was that I remember the exact time
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Vanessanda
What have you got for protection? Baseball bat?
Pepper spray? Dog? OR MY FAVORITE... Wasp Spray? Just for future protection, it's a good idea to get a couple of cans of Wasp Spray. It shoots a stream of poison about 10 feet (1.3meters), it sticks to whatever you spray it on, it is highly irritable to the skin. And it will burn.

Jav

Jav
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
In fact, I suspect when he called at 11.03, that he was probably lurking somewhere nearby. But I got in first and told him that he'd missed his appointment and couldn't change my arrangements.

Jav, is this the shield protecting me?
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
generalchaos, last 2 times the meeting fell through, he called me. This time he hasn'nt called. That's suspicious isn't it? The meeting was for 11am and I waited until 12. Last one was also at 11am and at 11. 03 he called me.

Javelilna, I have never trusted anybody like I trust Rook. And I have never even met him in person. And yes I feel he is my protector and perhaps a guide but I haven't said that to him yet. I dont' want him to think I'm being extreme
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Don't worry, I'm staying right here lady. You can bet on it!
The cops will do a drive by if you call. Plus, it's a good idea to let them get a look at him

Jav
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Javelina, I'm in Greece, the force here is undermanned and they don't do drive-bys. They will say something ridiculous. Unless there is somebody actually trying to break into your house or you have actually been assaulted, they won't bother. Then it takes them ages to get here. Believe me, they will ask stupid questions and then tell me I'm paranoid. They will think I'm an idiot.
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Vanessanda
We alol feel that way about Rook. He's got that protector vibe going for him. And he NEVER lies. He's one of the good guys, that's for damn sure.

Jav
generalchaos (2 stories) (141 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Hi V - hang in there. Don't go outside, just stay in.
You agreed to meet him at the bus stop, not your house. Just breathe...
If he tries to contact you again, meet him ONLY in public - and only if you are comfortable doing so. Don't meet him at your house!
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Javelina just stay with me a while and tell me what you think. In the meantime, I'm pacing. I wanted to go to the street market for fruit and now I'm too scared to go out the door. You can't imagine how much weird stuff happens to me. It's never ending. One thing after the other. I'm so tired of it. I never get a break from it. I started to feel a bit better when I met Rook in here. I don't know what it is about him. I felt that maybe there was a possibility of all this stuff coming to an end finally
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Vanessanda
None of that matters. Just call them and have them at least drive by the house a few times.

IT'S THEIR JOB

Jav
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
You call the cops and tell them the guy won't leave even though no one answered the door. You tell them you're freaking out and this guy is scaring the crap out of you. They don't need much more than to hear the stress in your voice when you call.

IT'S THEIR JOB

Jav
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Javelina I did 'set it up' a few times! And he did apologise 'It's my fault, I should have confirmed like I promised'. That's pretty much like saying "I don't know what I was thinking", isn't it?
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Vanessanda,
Ok. I've sent out a couple of emails and just waiting to hear back.
I can't gaurantee we'll reach him though, he's probably got the night off, which means he's with his family.
Is there anything I can help you with?

Jav
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Javelina thankyou I'm shaking like a leaf. I don't know what to do anymore. I can't go outside and have a better look because I don't know if he's round a corner or what
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Rook, I'm a little calmer. I waited for an hour at the bus stop during which time I saw a guy ride past on a push bike a little distance but not in front of me and he did a u-turn. The guy had a weird smirk on his face, the kind that leaves an imprint on your mind. After waiting an hour, it crossed my mind that your shield may be protecting me from contact with the person begging for lessons so I almost ran home and switched the computer on straight away to check your advice. No sooner had I got on to YGS, than there was a frantic buzzing at my door bell. I could see his face on the screen and it was the guy I saw on the bike! And, he had the same smirk! Rook he must have waited until I got sick of waiting for him and then followed me home on his bike. He buzzed so persistently and for so long, it was obviously a person who knew I was home. Anybody else would have buzzed a couple of times and left.

At this stage you're probably thinking "You idiot, call the cops". Apart from the fact that the police here is not on the ball anyway, what would I tell them? I think this... I think that... They'll think I'm nuts. After all, I did make arrangements to meet with him.

Is it the shield that has kept him away from me so far and in my desperation for work, did I push my luck? Am I being paranoid? I probably sound it but the stalker from the past had a similar look. It's been years and I can't be sure. This one was balding but the one from the past would have aged over the years.
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
DISCLAIMER: If friends begin saying things like, 'I don't know what I was thinking, I drove right past your house and had to turn around. It means they are dealing with something negative in their life... NOT that they mean you ill will or anything negative. However if someone suddenly stops coming over, does not wish to even enter your home anymore after you 'set this up'. It may be a sign that they may not have had your best interest in mind.
Javelina (4 stories) (3749 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Listen hun, Rook hasn't answered yet so I'm going to see if I can dredge him op. In the mean time, if you are this upset, I suggest you call the police ASAP. Trust your gut feeling on this. Keep typing when you can while I try and find Rook, OK? Call the law, they would rather come and assist when you're in a spot, don't hesitate.

JAV
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Rook, he's standing up at the corner on the street above me and he's watching my house! I think it might be the same guy who stalked me once before. He is definitely the same guy whom I saw ride past on a bush bike. Because I was suspicious I was checking out passers by and he was checking me out too.
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-24)
Rook, I've managed to get back on the net. Some sort of electrical interference was going on and I thought I'd lost my computer. It was actually switching itself off completely. Hmmmmmmmmmmm, I wonder a bit about what may have caused it.

I was anxious to get on and check something that you said about when the shield is up and people can't find your house or make arrangements and don't show. I can't find that advice. I'm sorry to tire you but can you please send it to me again.

Having grown up in Australia, pretty much the only thing that I can do to earn a living here is teach english. Some guy has been calling me for the last 2 weeks and literally bugging and begging for lessons from me. He doesn't want me to go to his house, he wants to come to mine! My instincts went on red alert for several reasons but being pretty desperate for work in this current crisis, I thought I would give him a chance.

Several times and for different reasons, the first meeting has fallen through. I thought I would give him one more chance and arranged to meet him at the bus stop some distance from my house. I told him to confirm on friday afternoon and make sure to be on time on Saturday morning.

He did confirm on Friday and I told him I would be waiting at the stoop ohhhhhhhhh he's at my door!
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-22)
I absolutely agree about book education. In fact, I enjoy being around people who have no formal education a lot more than those who have. You learn so much from them that can't be learned from books. And, yes, grandma was extremely smart and astute in a lot more ways than that.

Right again, thinking back now I often watched grandma while she was healing and I wished she would teach me. I probably subconsciously learned things from her that I have buried deep down in some hidden corner of my mind. Or perhaps it "crossed over" rather than was learned. I remember now that when she had finished her healing, she would mumble a prayer over the person and cross them...hahahaha... 3 times! 😉
rookdygin (24 stories) (4325 posts)
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6 years ago (2011-09-22)
Vanessanda,

It sounds as if your Grandmother was very 'educated' in many ways, just not 'book smart'. Just because someone has not been to, or did not do well in school does not make them 'uneducated'. Don't fall for the 'Media' Hype. 😉

I do believe that Physical Healing can be separate from Spiritual Healing... Simply because you can have Physical problems with out having Spiritual problems. However you may have picked up some of your grandmothers knowledge just buy being around her and you unconsciously applied that while doing your massages.

I am working on what you asked via e-mail. Please give me a day or two more, and please... No more back ground information as it may cloud any validation points I may have.

You are absolutely right, just caring make all the difference in the world. 😁

Respectfully,

Rook
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
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6 years ago (2011-09-22)
Rook, very interesting site but I don't have quick time to download and have a better look around. I've explained to you why I don't want to download any more programs... Remember YGS? It pretty much confirms the little I know about healing hands. You know stuff you see on documentaries and the like. But there is also some personal experience involved. My paternal grandma had some sort of gift. She was completely uneducated but she could heal everything from warts to broken bones. People from all over Ilia would come and see her for healing. I don't think she could do spiritual healing though, just physical problems. Do you think one is possible without the other?

When she came and stayed with us for a few years in Australia, there were even doctors who would send her patients! Believe it or not!

At one stage I massaged somebody and word got around and family and relations would come and visit and ask for a massage. They said that I had inherited grandma's gift. People who had never really taken any interest in me before. This only slowed when I moved out of town and it was too far for most of them to come.

I don't talk about it much and since I'm pretty isolated at the moment, I don't do it much anymore, anyhow. But if I'm with somebody who has aches and pains, I offer to give them a massage, no explanations, no anything, just "Let me give you a massage. A nice massage always helps". I think just caring about others makes all the difference, don't you?

Regards
rookdygin (24 stories) (4325 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-21)
Reiki (Sorry I misspelled it that first time) is... Well this...

Reiki is a Japanese technique for stress reduction and relaxation that also promotes healing. It is administered by "laying on hands" and is based on the idea that an unseen "life force energy" flows through us and is what causes us to be alive. If one's "life force energy" is low, then we are more likely to get sick or feel stress, and if it is high, we are more capable of being happy and healthy.

(from the page found here... Http://www.reiki.org/faq/whatisreiki.html)

Not sure why my comment hasn't shown up on your experience, but hey you got the information and that's what's important. 😁

Respectfully,

Rook
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-21)
Rook, I don't see your response on this page. I actually read it on yours. There is a lot of weirdness in my life!

I decided to continue doing everything in three's because when I first mentioned using my kandili, you told me that it was a good thing to stay within my comfort zone and so I did. You didn't laugh when I told you I would use the soap 3 times before moving on to the shield. You simply encouraged me to do it in a way that feels good. But, what I find most comforting is the fact that whatever little thing I do slightly differently, You come up with a response that relates my idiosyncracies to your shield. Even with the cleansing... You tell me that doing it 3 times will only serve to make the shield stronger! And yes, the presence of the shadow man is definitely diminishing.

You also tell me it's ok to keep asking questions. You don't know what you're getting yourself into! Ok, here goes... Rook, what is "Reki"? 😆

I thank you once again
rookdygin (24 stories) (4325 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-21)
Vanessanda,

As Douglas Adams once wrote...'Don't Panic'. 😁

The 'light/flame/shield' you picture need not be white... And it seems yours may be that 'soft golden light' that you have described. So no worries there.

Continue to use your Kandili at night, if it brings you peace of mind and allows you to have positive thoughts as you prepare for to bed it's a good thing.

The 'pyramid' you saw, comprised of golden lines... The point being the flame and the base centered on your chest, may have just been a visual manifestation of the positive energy being generated. The fact it was centered (the base) on you suggests that you were focused on the candle and 'emitting' positive energy into the environment. Take the image of that and visualize it expanding to fill, first the room, then your entire home. Picture it going into every tiny little corner of your home.

I have to admit you are the first person to do this in an increment of 3...however, that being said, your Shield Strength and amount of Positive Energy filling your home will only increase each time you use this technique. You stated that the 'shadow mans' presence already seems diminished and by the time you complete this for the third time should be gone completely.

Thank you for the update, continue to ask any questions you may have and please keep us posted. I shall continue to send positive thoughts and energy your direction.

Respectfully,

Rook
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
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6 years ago (2011-09-21)
Rook,wierd things are happening. Firstly, as you know, I used the rosemary soap 3 times. I was brought up to believe that these things need to be done once each in the names of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.

You mentioned something about me being distracted. When showering, I find it difficult to imagine the white light emanating. Instead, the light keeps turning a golden colour. Despite that, as soon as I started with the soap, I saw positive things approaching on the horizon, and trust me it's been a long time for me.

On Sunday, I completed step 1 of the cleansing and immediately more positive signs on the horizon! For these positive things to come to fruition, I have to follow them up and I did and it looked as though these things were going to work out.

Due to the running around following up, I wasn't able to take step 2 until today. Did I interrupt the shield? Everything is falling through again.

Today while trying to complete step 2, again I felt very distracted the whole time. I lit a white candle and it burned fine so I blew it out while I went for my shower first. Then I put the candle in place so I could start but the flame wouldn't take hold. There was a tiny flame half the size of a match head which struggled and eventually went out. I tried a couple more times but nothing.

I didn't want to use my Kandili because I don't like blowing it out, I let it burn out on its own so I found a tea candle and lit that.

The flame took hold but kept doing weird things and making weird shapes. There was a little shovel shape which kept stretching towards me and also in other directions but mostly towards me. At times the flame just went ballistic. I also found it very hard to stay focused on a white light.

At one point, a golden straight line emanated from the flame towards me. I thought it may be a reflection from my reading glasses so I took them off. Not only, did I not lose the golden line but I saw 4 or 5 more lines stretching towards me. The best way I can describe it is to say that it was like an upside down pyramid shape with the point in the flame, and the base on my chest.

I fully intend to complete the cleansing another two times but... Can you find an explanation for what's going on?

Apart from that, an update on my shadow man... On Monday night I felt more comfortable than I have in a long time and decided that I could sleep without my kandili. However, again I felt a presence. I didn't feel the horror or terror that I have felt before, nor did I actually see anything. Just to be on the safe side, I decided to light the kandili at about 2 or 3 in the morning. Last night, Tuesday, I did manage to sleep without it.

I would be grateful for any more advice.

Thanks
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-15)
Truth, yes my daughter is sensitive, very. She has never expressed fears of being raped but that doesn't mean she doesn't have them I guess. She does have difficulty trusting people and believing they have good intentions towards her. That could result from bad experiences she has had.
TruthInDarkness (4 stories) (259 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-14)
This is *strictly* in jest. Did the "stick man" look anything like this:

Http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/218/tonylevinstickman.jpg/

On a slightly serious note, *this* man has been seen just about everywhere! Name a rock band that has been around for at least 10 years (and up to 40) and he can likely be traced as "related" to that band in some shape or form!

Anyway, interesting stories. I'm not sure that the "stick man" and the "man" that visited your more recently are related. My tendancy would be to say, "no."

As for your daughter seeing a shadow man, she's likely just a sensitive too. The shadow man *might* not mean her any harm or even be trying to scare her. Not to pry, but does she have reason to believe that someone is stalking her that might want to rape her? Something like that might have induced her fear when she saw the shadow man.
rookdygin (24 stories) (4325 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-13)
Not to worry, no misunderstandings here... And while you've brought up some good points... This is not the place to have such a discussion. Please contact me via my e-mail (on my profile) and I'll have the whole 'church' discussion if you wish.

Glad you found the soap 😁. Take care, I'm sending Positive Thoughts and Energy your way.

Respectfully,

Rook
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-13)
Don't misunderstand me. I am religious, I just don't go to church and I have nothing against those who do. In fact every time I pass one, and there are two or three or more in every suburb here, I always go in and light a candle. They often have these little side rooms where people like me who don't want to go into the church proper can go. These little chapels are humble and I feel much better in there. I go in because of what the church is supposed to represent. I light my candle and say a prayer and I leave.

Several things have happened over here involving the church which you wouldn't describe as God's work and that upsets me a lot. One thing that upsets me no end is that people buy expensive gold or silver icons, all sorts of stuff and gift them as offerings to the church, which then recycles them and resells them. Some people even buy huge expensive crystal chandeliers and gift them. To me it's kind of like a bribe to God, If You do this for me, I will buy You an expensive gift. The money goes into the church coffers and you see priests driving around in limos and living in luxury villas when there are people living on the streets and kids begging for help with their drug addiction. The important ones wear robes, crowns and carry staffs that are studded in jewels! Real ones! Rubies, emeralds etc. I just feel that all that money would be better put towards helping the poor and needy. The church here has got a huuuge amount of property and yet the crisis here is getting worse by day. They have even evicted poor people from some of their rental properties because they lost their jobs and couldn't pay their rent.

That's not to say there aren't any good priests here. There are quite a few wonderful priests but they are few and are fighting a difficult battle trying to help those in need. These 'real' priests are relying on charity to help them help homeless adults and kids. They even home tutor kids in their care. Why doesn't the church help them to do God's work? Some have left and gone to 3rd world countries to do God's work and again rely on charity and not the church for help to do their work.

You would be appalled with the huge corruption scandal which broke out a few years ago over an illegal property exchange between the church and the state. The church has toned down the expensive jewelled garb and the flashy cars since the scandal broke out. Most people here look past all that and concentrate on their belief and continue going to church but I find it difficult when there is so much hypocricy and suffering around us and so little help from a church which is so rich and pays no taxes on its huge income.

I was born here in Greece about 10 minutes from the ancient site of Olympia. My parents migrated to Australia when I was 5 months old.

I will try and find your site tomorrow, I would like to get to know you better. I got the rosemary soap so I'm outta here now to take a nice shower with it! Bonus! The package says it's good for slimming, blood circulation and fights cellulite, too!

Thanks again
rookdygin (24 stories) (4325 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-13)
Vanessanda,

There are no 'stupid questions' because 'Knowledge is Power'...So don't feel that way, we all began our 'studies / experiences somewhere, somehow.

As far as being 'inspired' to ask me... It may just have been because you were thinking of me...

As far as what it 'means'...

Basil- Love, Exorcism, Wealth, Flying, Protection

Try this web site...

Http://witchiegirl.tripod.com/herbal_lore.htm

There is some good info on it... And not just about herbs.

As far as why won't it grow... Try this link it may help...

Http://www.container-gardening-tips.com/container-herb-gardening/growing-basil-in-containers.html

If your in a cooler/damper area of Greece that may be why your experiencing problems trying to grow your Basil.

Respectfully,

Rook
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-13)
Here's a weird question for you! You'll have to excuse the stupid questions but I've never studied the paranormal. I can have a discussion but only based on personal experiences and knowledge built on those. Having just published my last comment I decided to go out and look for rosemary. As I was shutting the back door "basil" came to mind. Outside my back door I have been trying to grow basil in pots for years but it just won't take! It shrivels and dies. "Ask Rook" came to mind and I decided to take the risk and go with it. I'm scared this will make me a laughing stock but, Is there sth special about basil and a reason why I can't grow it? Or is it just because I had you on my mind?
rookdygin (24 stories) (4325 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-13)
Vanessanda,

No, this is not my site. I discovered it during an on-line search a few years ago when I was looking for 'True Ghost Stories and Pictures'. If you 'click' on my name it will take you my profile. That may help 'explain me' a bit more. If that's not enough feel free to contact me via the e-mail you'll find there.

I'm just a person with an interest in the Paranormal / Parapsychology who doesn't mind sharing my experiences / knowledge so that I can possibly Help others.

Having a 'Good Heart and Pure Intentions' need not come from an organized church. I have found one that I do attend on a regular basis, but please don't hold that against me 😉. I have used the technique I have suggested to you long before I joined the Church I attend, and I still use it to this day, but it's 'generic' enough that anyone can use it... Religious or Not.

Are you a native of Greece?

Anyway, Please keep us updated and I shall continue to send Positive Energy and Thoughts your way.

Respectfully,

Rook
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-13)
Rook, thank you for understanding. I mean no disrespect to anyone but I'm not a church goer myself. However, I do believe in a higher power. I simply have taken on whatever makes me feel good from religion - the parts that give me comfort and relief and just make me feel better as a person; the parts that seem to relate to my own way of thinking and belief system. And, I often light my kandili as it truly comforts me and I feel protected by its light.

It sounds to me as if the light from my kandili relates to your ritual to a certain extent and that comforts me, coming from you. I am going to go out today and look for rosemary soap for sure. BUT, there is sth about you which feels "right", for want of a better word. May I ask who you are and why do I feel that you sincerely empathise? I don't feel that you are just "somebody" who finds these stories interesting. I came across this site accidentally while trying to find info on shadowman. I published the story under a pseudonym because I didn't know what reaction I would get and from whom. I'm no expert with computers and mine is a dinosaur. Is this your site?
rookdygin (24 stories) (4325 posts)
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6 years ago (2011-09-11)
Vanessanda,

My 'feeling' is there is just the one... And yes is possible it's 'blocking' or maybe distracting you is a better way of putting it... From cleansing/shielding the home/yourself. You lite the Greek lamp, a lamp that represents 'Holy Light' (White Light/Protection/Blessings) and as you stated (Quoting you): "I felt better and safer."

My advice would be this, start smaller... Start with your self, pick up some rosemary scented soap (rosemary = protection) take a bath or a shower using it. Think happy, positive thoughts... Picture a white light slowly surrounding you. Once out of the shower and dry, put of something that makes you feel safe and comfortable, think about how much you love your children and the go through the steps of the ritual, but focus on yourself, not the home. Once you've done this... Then look towards bigger things such as the house. Rome wasn't built in a day and things like this can take time.

Thank you for returning and keeping us updated. Let us know how things work for you. I wish you and yours well and I will continue to send positive thoughts your way.

Respectfully,

Rook
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-09-11)
Rook, sounds like you know exactly what you are talking about. It's not the house, it's me. The shadow first appeared in our home in Australia where I grew up. It was black and skinny as I said. I now live in Greece. My kids came with me but couldn't live here for various reasons and so they returned to Australia. There is now an unreconcilable rift between myself and my children caused by other family members and I can't get through to them. My entire family has issues but they think the issues are just bad luck. I need help Rook!
The shadow I see here in Greece takes different forms. The last was the clammy, real like figure with mass which shimmied up against me. Is it possible there is more than one spirit, being?

What would you say if I told you that I keep putting your cleansing off until another day? Am I being blocked from cleansing? The other night I felt again that sb was in the house but didn't see it at all. I wasn't even in bed yet so I was wide awake. It was just a very strong sensation and again I thought to myself, tomorrow I will do Rook's cleansing but DIDN'T! What I did was to light what we call in Greek a "kandili". It's an oil lamp you will see in orthodox churches and in our homes which represents a holy light. I felt better and safer.

I have seen and experienced many weird situations, it would take me forever to tell you. Would it make sense to you if I told you that I feel that there is a curse on our family going back to I don't know how many generations? Does that mean anything to you?

Shini, thankyou you are pretty close but as for the ARG, I have never had anything to do with those and so could not possibly be affected by a mythical character or spirit which has no basis of truth in it.
rookdygin (24 stories) (4325 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-08-28)
Vanessanda,

Good question... In order to truly answer that a complete history of the property and home (s) built on it would have to be known.

This 'spirit' could have been there for a very long time and is 'thriving' in the environment... Even doing things to increase the 'mood' so that 'it' is more comfortable.

Another option is that this 'entity/spirit' attached itself to someone in the household due to their 'state of mind' and as the situation has progressed 'it' has done things to 'increase' that environment... Heighten that (those) emotions that first attracted 'it' to the individual... But now 'it' has an entire household to 'work with (on).

Shini is correct as well. It many be a manifestation of the 'environment/emotions' that exist with-in your home.

I mean no disrespect with what follows, just covering all the basis...

Other than my Cleansing/Shielding more mundane things can be done as well... Sit down as a household, talk out any issues there may be. There is a possibility that Professional help may be needed... Whether that is seeing a Doctor and 'talking' through issues or things like AA (or other types) meetings.

Remember mundane issues and problems can, attract these negative beings into our lives. I can't speak for your individual situation but unless the 'root' of the problem is addressed you will have a continuing 'battle' on your hands.

My 'ritual' works for my Family and I...I've taught it to my oldest (19) and he's at least uses it as a personal shield and has sense he was 16.

DISCLAIMER: If friends begin saying things like, 'I don't know what I was thinking, I drove right past your house and had to turn around. It means they are dealing with something negative in their life... NOT that they mean you ill will or anything negative. However if someone suddenly stops coming over, does not wish to even enter your home anymore after you 'set this up'. It may be a sign that they may not have had your best interest in mind.

I wish you and yours well and I'm sending Positive Thoughts your direction.

Respectfully,

Rook
Shini (19 posts)
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6 years ago (2011-08-28)
Vanessanda- An "ARG" is an "alternative reality game", usually done with videos and blogs. Usually, the Slenderman stories were done in an "ARG" fashion, but many other topics can still be done in this way.

Onto the experience... It could be possible that the shadow being attached itself to you/ your home, and sort of created that atmosphere with negative energy.

Or, if you can think of something that could have possibly created that atmosphere in your regular home life, the shadow being could have manifested from that negativity, and is now thriving off of it.
Vanessanda (3 stories) (226 posts)
 
6 years ago (2011-08-28)
BTW Rook, there is totally an atmosphere of Fear, Isolation and Depression in my home and has been for many years now. Are you saying that this is why he comes or are you saying that HE has created this environment so that he can thrive here? What came first... Shadowman or the atmosphere?

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