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HaDev (guest)
 
4 years ago (2013-04-18)
Whoa! 😲 I've been Moderated!😭Good job Mods! πŸ˜†

Val...you telling me to come out? I wasn't in hiding!
valkricry (39 stories) (2730 posts) mod
+1
5 years ago (2013-04-18)
BJJ - haunted by anime? (Shakes head) Now THAT is sadπŸ˜†.

Rook - you are right, I do not speak Hotrodese. Does anyone?

Havdev- Perhaps you will come out and participate now?

😊
valkricry (39 stories) (2730 posts) mod
 
5 years ago (2013-04-18)
For those of you who may have missed this - from the 'Creature Laying Next to Me" Thread:

Zzsgranny (16 stories) (2726 posts) mod 2013-04-18 (6 hours ago)

I want to ask everyone to keep your replies to Hotrod on hold. Martin has been contacted.
demonicsheikh (55 posts)
 
5 years ago (2013-04-18)
[at] scary ritwik
Yes he will try to contact you. He will show up randomly after that.
valkricry (39 stories) (2730 posts) mod
+1
5 years ago (2013-04-18)
Dear ritwik,
As frustrating as it sounds, I have to echo BadJuuJuu - NO ONE can give you a definative answer about Zen. Is he good or evil? He has done nothing to harm you, only to frustrate you when you have been at the board for long periods. So, I do not 'feel' he is evil. But, I am not there, and can not feel his essence, as you can. Now, I am going to ask you to do something for me. Really, really be honest with yourself on this: When Zen puts in his appearances are you already growing tired? Mentally or physically? My hunch is you would say 'yes', the hour grows late, you have been allowing 'others' to use your energy to communicate, it is tiring. I am trying to think of an example to illustrate what I am getting at, and, unfortunately the best I can come up with is someone playing a video game for hours, and they know they should quit but still continue for 'one more level', which leads to another and another. Their performance suffers at work/school, their social life dwindles because that game has become everything to them. In a nutshell, they are 'addicted' to that game. Ouija can be like that. Addicting. Perhaps, Zen is your own personal timer. If you 'leave the board and other occult' odds are Zen would leave you alone. If he doesn't you can always go back to it, right?
BadJuuJuu (13 stories) (1034 posts)
+3
5 years ago (2013-04-18)
Um, Seshomaru is a character in the anime Inuyasha. Seshomaru is a dog demon who takes human form, and travels with an imp and a human child. He's the half brother of Inuyasha. They occasionally work together, but usually end up fighting. Used to watch it every night. 😐
valkricry (39 stories) (2730 posts) mod
+1
5 years ago (2013-04-18)
OK, ritwik for you I will try and 'translate' what I THINK n_ishwarya is trying to say...
Copy of Original post:
What will you tell for. Sesshomaru. He is mighty dog demon. He is still. Holding me. He seems. To. Love. Me. But. He scares. Me by telling that. He. Will kill my loved parents and friends.he. Does not want. Anyone to be friendly to me once tried to kill my friend."
My 'translation':
" What advise can you tell me for Sesshomaru, a mighty dog demon. He is still holding me (captive/possession?). He seems to love me, but scares me by telling me that he will kill my parents and friends. He doesn't want anyone to be friendly with me. He once tried to kill my friend."
That's the best I can do.
StewieArcobaleno (1 posts)
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5 years ago (2013-04-18)
scary_ritwik
It would be very interesting to ask 'Zen' if he is Zagan a King and President of Hell which at first appears with griffin wings and then as man. Also I would like to know about his reaction to your question. Did you actually ask him who he is?: p
BadJuuJuu (13 stories) (1034 posts)
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5 years ago (2013-04-18)
I know you want definate answers, but in the paranormal there just aren't any. All anyone can honestly give you are opinions and guesses. Some of thoses guesses may be right, or close to right, or so far out in left field there is no point even paying attention to them. Anyone who tells you "it's definitely this" is full of themselves. We can't test paranormal activity in a controlled, laboratory setting, so it's impossible to say something is definate, or final. It's all just guesses, educated guesses, but guesses. So, I'm sorry. No one can give you the final answer on this Zen.
I will give you my opinion, my guess. I think Zen is a manifestation of your subconscious instinct. I think this because, in my opinion, Ouija usually contacts our own inner knowledge rather than an outside entity. That being said, Ouija is not as closed and controlled as some other forms of divination. It's easier for some random entity to hijack Ouija divination and cloud your own inner wisdom, and deceive you. I think that Zen is your inner wisdom telling you to drop the Ouija before something truly disturbing comes through. Your instinct knows you're playing with fire, and is trying to appeal to your conscious in a way it knows you will pay attention to. Is Zen good or evil? He's whatever you are.
This is just an opinion, you can make of it what you will.
scary_ritwik (2 stories) (34 posts)
 
5 years ago (2013-04-18)
So far and Finally I once again ask every body What can be the FINAL CONCLUSION regarding Zen...

Is he Good or Bad?
If I leave the board and other occult, Would he try to contact me by some else way?
scary_ritwik (2 stories) (34 posts)
 
5 years ago (2013-04-18)
[at] Hadev,

I am a Jain. I speak Hindi. And my father's village is Ashoknagar (M.P).
scary_ritwik (2 stories) (34 posts)
+2
5 years ago (2013-04-18)
Dear Rook,

Firstly I thank you for your explanation.
😊
As for what you asked about HotRod's comment, I will tell you only what I know.
There are only two divisions in the Jain religion.
1st are the "Digambaras"
And 2nd are "Shwetambaras" and there are no casts in Jainism, (Jainism religion was founded to remove all the castism from the people because all are one)

I am a Digambar-Jain may be about whom HotRot is talking about are Shwetamber, but still there is no difference in our cultures...
scary_ritwik (2 stories) (34 posts)
 
5 years ago (2013-04-18)
dear nemaa,

Thank you for reading my stories and for giving it a thought. 😊

[at] n_iswarya,

What are you saying? I don't get it. πŸ˜• πŸ˜•

Do anyone knows what is she trying to say?
scary_ritwik (2 stories) (34 posts)
+2
5 years ago (2013-04-18)
demonicsheikh,
Thanks for your explaination. But let me clear one thing, I was not trying to record Zen's or some other spirit's voice. I opened the recorder to record my own questions, so that I may remember them in sequence. And what the board may be answering would too get recorded because I spell the alphabets along, on which the pointer rests. (this avoids confusion and I spell the alphabets for 're-confirmation')
HaDev (guest)
 
5 years ago (2013-04-18)
A whim. Thought I could find out the details that I asked for without getting assaulted, if you know what I mean πŸ˜‰

Even tested the lingo on another story too.
Isolde (guest)
 
5 years ago (2013-04-18)
HaDev,

I'm sorry if I insulted you. It is good for you to speak out like this.

But I do wonder why you choose to pretend to be someone else (who speaks lousy English, perhaps too lousy to even understand the stories) in stead of just saying what you had to say in the first place.

Isolde
HaDev (guest)
 
5 years ago (2013-04-18)
Potrod if you think what hit you out of the blue...don't sweat yourself.
I have been on this site from a long time. I read stories. Laugh at some. Wonder at the others. But I never felt the urge to sign up.
But a few days now... This was an itch I had to scratch.
You are ruining 'Indian' name on an international forum, and I gots ta speak up.
Isolde (guest)
 
5 years ago (2013-04-18)
Hello HaDev, welcome... Or must I say Hotrod?
If I'm wrong then I sincerely appologise.
Isolde
HaDev (guest)
 
5 years ago (2013-04-18)
ritwik you in what religion?

What mother tongue you talk?

Where your father village?
rookdygin (24 stories) (4320 posts)
+1
5 years ago (2013-04-18)
scary_ritwik,

I feel I must apologize for the 'mess' Hotrod has made of your comments thread. He doesn't even seem to understand that it was you who 'said'...

"HotRod13,
You stated "Ritwik is an indian. ZN means something else in ritwiks religon. I know what it means and ritwik knows it too."
Well I don't know what it means in my religion would you tell what you know about it?"

Now he's gone and said...

"...pikwik belongs to jhansi. Its about 1200 kms from where I live. A lotta jains live around my place and they pronounce things differently. Pikwik belongs to another culture."

Do you know what or who he's talking about?

Respectfully,

Rook
Hotrod13 (141 posts)
 
5 years ago (2013-04-18)
Lol rook, pikwik belongs to jhansi. Its about 1200 kms from where I live. A lotta jains live around my place and they pronounce things differently. Pikwik belongs to another culture.
Peace
Hotrod13 (141 posts)
 
5 years ago (2013-04-18)
Isolde,
Thank you.Jin,jinn,zin,zn could mean many things in india. It can mean an elitened one, a sage or the djinn. With nearly identical sounds. Zn Β± zaza would mean something else.
Peace
rookdygin (24 stories) (4320 posts)
 
5 years ago (2013-04-18)
Ummmmmm Val may not have studied those languages... But did you completely miss this comment from
Scary_ritwik? (Puff fires up the 'instant re-play' that is installed on the Miss Demeanor which displays the following quote from 19 hours ago)

"HotRod13,
You stated "Ritwik is an indian. ZN means something else in ritwiks religon. I know what it means and ritwik knows it too."
Well I don't know what it means in my religion would you tell what you know about it?"

That is directly from the O/P's own 'fingers'...So what do you have to say about that?

Puff Bayram
Hotrod13 (141 posts)
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5 years ago (2013-04-18)
Dear val,
I think I sounded snappy. I'm sorry. Blame it on culture.
Dont you too feel that spirits often communicate using metaphors, similies or just hint at something? In a round about way, do they communicate.
Peace
Isolde (guest)
+2
5 years ago (2013-04-18)
Oh, come on Hotrod, why don't you just answer the questions? Is it because you don't know the answers and hide yourself behind 'insults'? Because that is how it feels like to me. Come on, be a teacher, and explain to your 'students'.

Isolde
valkricry (39 stories) (2730 posts) mod
+3
5 years ago (2013-04-18)
ritwik,
I'm not sure what to make of your phone's refusal to record the session, but I have heard other's say that certain entities do not like being recorded and will turn such things off. I agree with sheikh on the energy causing things to topple or be tossed as opposed to signs of evilness.
At Neema, I found your posts very interesting and well thought out. But I do have a question. Can you elaborate on why you think Rook's theory fell apart after the numerology part? I'm really curious about that. I'm always curious on how folks arrive at their conclusions 😊, as it helps broaden my personal base on how things are viewed by others and aids me in gaining knowledge.
At hotrod: I did read your post; "Zn could be the "JIN" in jainism" does not mean zn is used as an acronym or identifying name by practioners of that faith at large. This means it's your own personal opinion, and I can respect that.
rookdygin (24 stories) (4320 posts)
 
5 years ago (2013-04-18)
scary_ritwik,

I am sorry, just about missed your question for me in all the 'mess'. Sorry about that. You wrote/asked...

"..."I also 'FEEL' that this 'Entity' is trying to communicate to you that your 'EARTHLY PATH' (makes sense if this is indeed and elemental) does not include using the Board and possibly the Pendulum."

Would you please make it a little clearer to me..."

All I was trying to say is that this 'Elemental'... (Earth has four ELEMENTS...earth, air, fire, water)... This entity is an 'Earth Spirit' from one of these four elements from 'Mother Earth' and was/is trying to tell you that your 'personal path' while here on Earth does not involve using Ouija Boards or Pendulums.

That's all.

Respectfully,

Rook
Hotrod13 (141 posts)
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5 years ago (2013-04-18)
Roik,
I have nothing against you. It would be better if you ignored me. But the way you come to oonclusions amuses me, you appear to be at sea most of the time to me, which you try to make up by putting up pompous posts, trying to sound very right, scholastic and knowledeable and observant. This is just a put on. It seems funny when one tries to be whzt one he aint.
Peace
Valie hun,
I have already explained that. Please read my post carefully.
Peace
n_ishwarya (1 stories) (14 posts)
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5 years ago (2013-04-18)
what will you tell for. Sesshomaru. He is mighty dog demon. He is still. Holding me. He seems. To. Love. Me. But. He scares. Me by telling that. He. Will kill my loved parents and friends 😭.he. Does not want. Anyone to be friendly to me once tried to kill my friend
rookdygin (24 stories) (4320 posts)
+3
5 years ago (2013-04-18)
Hotrod,

You Praise nemaa (Well Met nemaa 😊) and yet continue to 'bash' me.

You may not agree with how I got my results... You are calling my use of Numerology both 'simplistic' and 'subjective' and yet it seems our 'answers' for scary_ritwik are pretty much the same thing.

How can that be? A NON HINDU using methods that are not traditional Indian methods? Heaven Forbid!?!

Do everyone a favor, GET OVER YOURSELF.

Rook
valkricry (39 stories) (2730 posts) mod
+2
5 years ago (2013-04-17)
Ritwik wrote:"HotRod13,
You stated "Ritwik is an indian. ZN means something else in ritwiks religon. I know what it means and ritwik knows it too."
Well I don't know what it means in my religion would you tell what you know about it?"
I should like to know too.
Hotrod13 (141 posts)
-2
5 years ago (2013-04-17)
[at] nemaa,
You have made some very interesting observations and hit the nail on the head. Its more than enough to put ritwiks doubts to an end.
Rook,
You can learn a lot from nemaa as nemaa is an enlightened person, and also set your tendency of hitting your head on the nail to an end. No offence meant.
Peace
Moral:we learn something new everyday.
Hotrod13 (141 posts)
-1
5 years ago (2013-04-17)
Dear nemaa,
I agree with you. I have the same views as you. Zn could be the "JIN" in jainism, which means the enlightened one.I.E lord mahavira or god, like you said it could been HIM. You think exactly like I do, and that maybe because we both are indians. I also feel that the numerology thing is just rooks imagination going wild. Its very subjective.
Peace
nemaa (guest)
 
5 years ago (2013-04-17)
I mean to say it was referring to soul inside living beings and that it too is soul like them albiet supreme soul... I would ritwik is lucky to have been guided to stay away from ouija by god himself...
nemaa (guest)
 
5 years ago (2013-04-17)
[at] scary_ritwik
[at] rookdygin
I read the story (both parts) and rook's analysis too, and found them interesting...
But rook had analysed the clues given by entity very well but seems to have gone astray after the numerology part...
I personally feel that entity was supreme soul as he is the one who has control over both good and bad... Thats why coin was oscillating between sun and moon... Which he meant to say he has control over both...
As for looking like you it means supreme soul resides in each and everyone maybe its ritwik or rook or myself... And appears to devotess as they are...
Sorry if I have offended any religious sentiments... And I am hindu...
scary_ritwik (2 stories) (34 posts)
+1
5 years ago (2013-04-17)
Dear Amie_16,

Thank you for reading my story and good to see your comment. As for your question about using the board here's a video on youtube
Www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWlPL4KZvBM
you can watch it and you can google for Sandy Cristal's blog on ouija boards.
scary_ritwik (2 stories) (34 posts)
+3
5 years ago (2013-04-17)
Rook,
No need for apology my ouija board isn't in sanskrit or hindi. Its a common one (though home-made) with english alphabets,numbers,YES-NO,Good Bye,Sun-Moon. And you are right every religion has the same theme
'Treat Others As You Want to Be Treated'
Ans HotRod13 you too must understand this theme. How many more negative karma do you want to achive? You've already scored -105 points. Right now YOU NEED PEACE.
scary_ritwik (2 stories) (34 posts)
+5
5 years ago (2013-04-17)
HotRod13,
You stated "Ritwik is an indian. ZN means something else in ritwiks religon. I know what it means and ritwik knows it too."
Well I don't know what it means in my religion πŸ€” would you tell what you know about it? πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜‰
scary_ritwik (2 stories) (34 posts)
+3
5 years ago (2013-04-17)
HotRod13,

I never said and I don't believe "that the ouija board is path to the lord" O.K. Don't relate things by your own.
scary_ritwik (2 stories) (34 posts)
+1
5 years ago (2013-04-17)
Dear Rook,

Thank you very much for your advises and all your comments. You know better about things. I am sorry I don't know much about numerology, I think I just got what you exlained. But I didn't understood what you said in the last
"I also 'FEEL' that this 'Entity' is trying to communicate to you that your 'EARTHLY PATH' (makes sense if this is indeed and elemental) does not include using the Board and possibly the Pendulum."

Would you please make it a little clearer to me...
😳 😊 😊
demonicsheikh (55 posts)
+1
5 years ago (2013-04-17)
[at] ritwik
He isn't evil. The tossing of items are regular in ouija board because of energy.
Phones are not good for recording spirit voices. Get an evp device.
Because most spirits draw energy or drain energy handycam+smartphones are useless.
scary_ritwik (2 stories) (34 posts)
 
5 years ago (2013-04-17)
dear Pjod,

I your question is really worthy. I can't explain it completely, but I can say that I know God is with me and he loves me and he won't let something wrong happen to me ever. I believe and feel I am protected. 😁 😁 😁
scary_ritwik (2 stories) (34 posts)
 
5 years ago (2013-04-17)
Thank you every one for reading my story. There is one more thing which I didn't share in my story, because I didn't feel it right. πŸ˜• πŸ˜•. During the session which is described in the story two more paranormal activities took place.

1. Before when I began the sΓ©ance I had opened the "Voice Recorder" of my phone (to record the questions which I'll be asking, and what ever the board would spell out).
After the session was over, I clicked on button of the keypad to 'stop' the recording function. The phone lit up and on the screen it showed the 'option' "Record" rather than "Stop". Meaning, that the phone didn't record the conversation nor anything else, the feature/function didn't even started!

Now, I am using my phone for more than two years, and my hand is set or say used to its keypad. I'm absolutely sure that I can't be mistaken, I had pressed on the right button to start the 'voice record'. But got nothing recorded.

2. At the time when the coin (planchette) was moving on its own, three of my books (and they were heavy) fell down from the shelf, and that made loud "thud" noise. I know this sounds like a movie-seen that's why I didn't gave it in the story.

These two happenings promoted the thought of Zen being negative in my mind
valkricry (39 stories) (2730 posts) mod
+1
5 years ago (2013-04-17)
Amie_16,
To answer your questions, you keep your fingertips on the planchette and speak your questions. The 'spirit' spells out its answers.
I personally don't believe it is something to mess with - especially if you are inexperienced. If the board is not properly closed, or you have not taken proper precautions many report disasterous results.
demonicsheikh (55 posts)
+1
5 years ago (2013-04-17)
why you guys fight? Lolx in every experience.
Some are psychic some are not.
Some are well gifted storytellers some are not.
Some are critics some are not.
The point is only help+advice is required in comments not fighting. Lolx sorry if I said too much
Narella (guest)
+5
5 years ago (2013-04-16)
Hotrod: No,I'm not going to engage in a verbal spat with you. Have a nice day.
demonicsheikh (55 posts)
 
5 years ago (2013-04-16)
hi scary_ritwik
I read your experience with the ouija board and quite a experience you had. The motion to and fro you described might be.
1. Nodding like in yes or no.
2. Directions
3. Sun and moon=day and night.
4. Short words.
I think he is a well wisher.
Now don't hate me for my opinions but ouija board is some serious stuff. I mean you can literally get killed for using that.
I think he is warning you. Maybe he is evil and want to harm you but he can say he warned you.
The spirit said its not human and it is true because you contact the shadow of the human.
You can ask it if you like if he is a shadow of a human.
And when he said he looked like you. Just ask him are you my shadow?
Hotrod13 (141 posts)
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5 years ago (2013-04-16)
Narella,
You are just highly strung. Iam not agitating rook. English is alien to me and I remembered your observations you posted. So to bring the point home to rook I used your reference. Anyways its just the net so please don't get so worked up over your pixelated pen name being mis used as I had no malafide intentions.
Peace
Narella (guest)
+3
5 years ago (2013-04-16)
Hotrod: Please do not bring me into your attempts to agitate people posting on this site.
rookdygin (24 stories) (4320 posts)
+4
5 years ago (2013-04-16)
Hotrod,

Yes I have given my opinion and advice to try and help.

I must make a correction to something I have stated...

Somewhere I mentioned I 'thought' (teach me to 'think' LoL) that scary_ritwik was a Christian... I must correct myself, I checked their profile and they Practice Jainism... (see quote below)

"I am a positive person and a firm believer of God. Though I am a Jain, I believe in all the religions and God in all his forms. I have used almost all the mediums which you have only heard of or maybe you tried but didn't succeed (Ouija boards, Spirit boards, Pendulum method, SΓ©ances, auto-writing) "

Now 'HOTROD' you seem to think that being from India changes what I have told scary_ritwik is wrong because... Well you just stated this...

"Whats true in west maynot be so in the east."

Let me tell you what I DO KNOW... Every religion out there has a 'common theme' it basically says 'Treat Others As You Want to Be Treated'.

I also know that unless corrected I believe they used the 'English Alphabet' when they created their OUIJA BOARD and unless told otherwise then My opinion stands.

I may not be right, I have merely offered my OPINION based on the FACTS of the experience that scary_ritwik has shared with us. I will also offer my apologies if the Board was created using Sanscrit or Hindi for the Written Language... As that would change things.

Rook

(A heavily Modified Double Decker bus pulls up... Loud music blasting, the License Plate reads LNTP... The driver opens the door leans out and calls out...)

'All you seem interested in is stirring up trouble and detracting from any and all advice and opinions scary_ritwik may receive.

If you have an alternate theory/opinion then let's 'hear' it.

If not just SHUT THE (BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP!) UP)

Puff Bayram (Late Night Troll Patrol)
Hotrod13 (141 posts)
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5 years ago (2013-04-16)
Rook,
Well done. You have shown you can speak very well, from both sides of your mouth. You help ritwik, but are you familiar with his culture and religon?
Whats true in west maynot be so in the east.
valkricry (39 stories) (2730 posts) mod
+1
5 years ago (2013-04-16)
Hello Ritwik,
I don't know if it is of any help but there is an ethnic group in Antolia (Turkey) who go by the name zaza, and in Hebrew zaza means 'move'. AZAZ on the other hand is a town in Syria. Do either of those hold significance for you?
Reading through your account, you stated that Zen interfers when you "conduct a sΓ©ance for a long duration". Couple that with Rook's numerological break down of what things could mean, and it seems apparent that Zen is trying to warn you not to allow the ouija to over take your life, that it is not meant to be your life's path. To quote Rook, "this 'Entity' is trying to communicate to you that your 'EARTHLY PATH' (makes sense if this is indeed and elemental) does not include using the Board and possibly the Pendulum."
~Val
rookdygin (24 stories) (4320 posts)
+1
5 years ago (2013-04-16)
Hotrod,

You have entirely missed what I have said... My comment on scary_ritwik's first experience requested that if, 'IF', they used the Board again that they ask some specific questions IN ORDER to help them figure out what 'message' this 'entity' may be trying to give them.

Scary_ritwik seemed to be experienced enough with the Board to know how to use it, and use it safely. They chose to do so and have now provided the results from that experience... Based on the answers they have received, my experience and my 'GUT FEELING' I have interpreted the answers they received and suggested that the Board is NOT something they need to be using.

Now you are saying this is...

"Its a very serious mistake, to invite unknown entities. Rook is endorsing such a self destructive activity."

I am not endorsing anything that resembles 'self destructive activity'...I would NEVER do such a thing.

As far as being 'nuts'. Yes I am NUTZ... I admit that freely and without restraint but you really should read comments in their entirety before trying to 'put ideas' into peoples heads.

Rook

(I can hear Puff in the Garage, he's warming up the Bus humming something about Troll Patrol...)
Hotrod13 (141 posts)
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5 years ago (2013-04-16)
Rooks observations are flawed. Ritwik is an indian. ZN means something else in ritwiks religon. I know what it means and ritwik knows it too. It cannot be the same in english because it has diff num. Value in hindi.
Peace
rookdygin (24 stories) (4320 posts)
 
5 years ago (2013-04-16)
SmokenMirrors,

No Worries and Well Met. 😁 If you have any questions please ask them here or if you are more comfortable I have an e-mail address on my profile or you can even use the Comment section from this experience of mine...

Http://www.yourghoststories.com/real-ghost-story.php?story=5020#comment

Respectfully,

Rook
SmokenMirrors (6 stories) (78 posts)
+4
5 years ago (2013-04-16)
Hotrod have you read Rooks post in its entirety?

1. Rook says this is in his opinion, and everybody is entitled to an opinion without it been rubbished.

2. Rook says "I have 'felt' (the empathy thing kicking in) that 'Zen ' is a 'Non-Human' Spirit" Yet you say "Do you mean to say ritwik is a non human lol?" How do you draw this conclusion? From how I see it Rook is saying 'Zen' is non-human.

In my opinion Rooks post has to be long in order to give an understandable explanation of his numerology theory. Something I will admit I am new to and was interested to read to broaden my own knowledge.

Rook. Sorry for jumping in but I couldn't bite my tongue any longer.
Hotrod13 (141 posts)
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5 years ago (2013-04-16)
Rook,
Do you mean to say ritwik is a non human lol? If this is your gut feeling there is something wrong with your gut. You yourself mention these are your own feelings,personal,hence subject to error.
Peace πŸ˜‰
Hotrod13 (141 posts)
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5 years ago (2013-04-16)
Also if any believes that the ouija board is path to the lord, needs much self analysation. Not self deception.
Peace πŸ˜†
Hotrod13 (141 posts)
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5 years ago (2013-04-16)
Rook,
Face it man. You numerology thing is again over simplfied anc would fit any person. If you sincerely want my advice-relax,you are too keyed up. Talk to your doc. Your posts must follow logic and meaning if you want yourself to be taken seriously. Again like narella said, things are not simple as you think they are. If you are so sure about yourself, be brief, dont lean on long posts to appear scholastic. Hit the nail on the head and not your head on the nail.
The problem here that op ritwik can't make out who is who. I think,ritwik,you should let the sleeping lions sleep.
Peace ❀
rookdygin (24 stories) (4320 posts)
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5 years ago (2013-04-16)
scary_ritwik,

Thank you for the follow up! I am flattered you choose to follow my advice and find your results very interesting.

Pjod,

We are all given gifts and while we may not understand all the 'why's or what for's' if our Heart is in the right place Heavenly Father will guide us. Everyone has to walk their own path to find the truth...

Hotrod,

I have never, NEVER claimed to be psychic... Though I am Emphatic. I offer advice to individuals based on my own experiences, research and where my Empathy may lead me and IF ASKED where Prayers, Research and Interaction with an individual lead so kindly 'BUTT OUT'. The O/P tried something I suggested and is now sharing the results of those actions and I thank them and plan to respond TO THEM.

Now that all of that is out of the way...

Scary_ritwik,

I have 'felt' (the empathy thing kicking in) that 'Zen ' is a 'Non-Human' Spirit, possibly an Elemental which is trying to communicate with you. In particular trying to tell you that the Ouija Board and Pendulum are NOT things you should be using... That your Path is actually a different one and you need to stop both. I 'feel' it has tried to communicate this via Numerology... So with that in mind let me 'break down' the answers 'Zen' gave you.

It called itself Z/N at first...Z= 8 in numerology and N= 5

8 = Sacrifice/Power
5 = Action/Restlessness/Life Experience

I 'feel' this 'entity' is worried you are giving up 'Life Experience' by 'sacrificing' yourself to the 'power' of the Board/Pendulum.

But if we break down those number further...

Together they equal 13 and 13 (in numerology) Can be 'broken' down to the number 4 (1+3)

4 = Communication/Interaction

Which is just what 'Zen' has been doing sense you began using the Board.

You asked..."Where do you come from?" answer: N-Z-N-Z...

N= 5

Z= 8

5 + 8 = 13 (1 + 3 = 4) 4 = Communication/Interaction

'Zen' keeps stressing this point... Where 'it' is from is not as important as the fact that it is communicating with you.

Next you asked...

"Which element do you favor?" answer...A-Z-A-Z...

A= 1

Z= 8

8 + 1 = 9

9 = Highest level of Changes

Another 'hint' to change your 'Life Path'.

Next question by you...

"Where you live or belong?" answer N-Z-N-Z again it 'breaks down to Communication/Interaction.

Your next question was...

""When did you died?" answer "9-6-1-0-1-9-1-9-1-9"

This long change of numbers breaks down to the number

1 = Individual/Self Leadership

As well as the answer you received when you asked 'its' age (answer given 9-1...9 + 1 = 10 (1 + 0 = 1)

As a 'Non-Human' Spirit Entity it 'wasn't' born 'per-say' nor does it have an age so it reinforced the fact that it communication is 'all about you'.

Even its answer to your last question...

"Zen what do you look like?"

It answered 'YOU'.

I (personal opinion folks) 'FEEL' that this 'entity' is Non-Human (as stated before) and in fact it may be an Elemental (hence my question concerning what element 'it' favors). I also 'FEEL' that this 'Entity' is trying to communicate to you that your 'EARTHLY PATH' (makes sense if this is indeed and elemental) does not include using the Board and possibly the Pendulum.

From the Information you have provided, based on what you have shared with us, that is my 'GUT' feeling. Again thanks for sharing and thanks for the update.

Respectfully,

Rook

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ShadowHawk (1 stories) (9 posts)
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5 years ago (2013-04-15)
Thats a good point messing with Ouija boards breaks one of the commandments god luck finding out about "zen" though I think its a demon
Amie_16 (2 stories) (104 posts)
 
5 years ago (2013-04-15)
Hey I have questions! My name's Aminah and I'm 16 as well!
The question is that when the spirits are giving answer, do you keep your hand on the planchette? And second is that do you ask them questions by speaking or by spelling words on the board by placing planchette over them?
Pjod (3 stories) (978 posts)
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5 years ago (2013-04-15)
"I have immense faith in God. Ouija and Pendulum only under the protection of God."

I find these quotes curious, only because it is clearly stated in the Bible, warning man not to commune with the dead. (old testament) Now, don't get me wrong- I believe anyone can have a relationship with their creator, without following the Bible.
I'm just curious why you believe you're under protection of God while summoning the deceased.

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