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I am currently 7 months pregnant with my second child and while we have almost always had something going on in our home I noticed something different. I was around two months pregnant at the time that we started getting new activity in the house. Of course the prankster still messes with our kitchen clocks from time to time, nothing unusual. But then as we started bringing things for the baby into the house like diapers, clothes and her crib I noticed that there was a strong combination of both anxiety and anger in our home for a few days. I thought maybe I'm just being over emotional between out of whack hormones, getting ready for the baby and trying to get my oldest daughter Maggie into a special needs pre-k class which anyone with an autistic or down syndrome child knows that its a lot testing, evaluations, paper work and usually a waiting list so needless to say things have been a bit wired. Later that night as I was putting the bedding on the crib I felt a strong quick tug on my pj pants. I looked down expecting Maggie to be there needing a drink or to go potty but she wasn't. I peeked into her room and saw her sleeping soundly as her moon and star projector quietly hummed on her night stand. I walked over to switch off the tiny projector and cover her back up when I heard small shuffled footsteps going down the hallway towards the living room. I looked down the hall but saw only a short shadow round the corner and vanish, I thought it strange but didn't think about it too much seeing that nothing happened for the rest of the night. A few days later I was folding some baby clothes putting them away and decided to take a break to fix lunch for Maggie and I, while I was making our sandwiches I heard her say " No that's mean!" in Collin and my room. I automatically stopped what I was doing to go see what Maggie was into knowing that she normally says something along those lines when she knows she is doing something she shouldn't almost like she is getting onto herself before she does it. When I got to the bedroom some of the clothes were unfolded and sprawled out around the crib. Maggie picked them up and handed them to me, smiling " I'm a big girl!." I took them from her and folded them quickly asking her not to unfold them again and put them on our bed to finish later. She looked at me confused and followed me out of the bedroom, later that night I went to finish laundry only to find the baby clothes knocked off the foot of the bed with Collin's work hat and box cutter laying in the middle of them. Assuming he had simply knocked them over while changing and didn't bother picking up his things or the mess he made I was a bit miffed. I put his things away from work and sat down to finish folding the baby clothes when he walked in and sat down beside me. "What happened here?", he asked picking up a few outfits and folding them, putting them in a pile," I thought you already did these." I took a deep breath trying not to snap at him, "I did but You must have knocked them over when You were changing." He looked at me strangely and said " No they were still folded when I walked out." I explained to him that his hat and box cutter were in the middle of the clothes when I came in and he said that while he had left them on the foot of the bed he didn't knock over the clothes. I apologized and we went on with our night setting up a few more odds and ends all the while wondering how they got knocked over. Maggie hadn't been back in there since the first time it happened and Collin said he didn't do it... Clothes don't just grow legs and jump on their own, but I didn't see the point in dragging on the topic so I left it be and went to bed. I was restless that night and couldn't sleep something just felt off in the house. Maggie was resting and so was Collin so what could possibly be wrong? I went into the kitchen and got a drink when one of Maggie's toy trucks lit up and started playing music. I went into the living room and switched it off knowing that the only way it could turn on was if someone pushed the button, someone or something obviously wanted my attention its the only thing that added up. First the clothes and later the toy truck, I walked around the living room looking for anything else to be out of place but nothing was. I could feel eyes on me I just couldn't tell from what direction and as I scanned the room I couldn't see anything out of the norm. Not even a shadow I was tired and frustrated not knowing what was in my house. So finally I said, I know someone is in here with me and I know You were the one who messed with the baby clothes and turned on the truck can You please just show yourself or at least show me where You are? A few minutes went by and nothing happened I could still feel someone there watching me but I could not see them which only made me a bit more nervous. I once again searched the living room and dining room studying every corner and eventually every room of the house...Nada. So I turned the lights out and was about to try and lay down when I noticed Maggie's projector was flickering on and off through her partially opened door. Thinking she woke up and was playing with the switch I opened the door the rest of the way to find her sitting on her bed staring at her floor giggling she turned to me still laughing and said "Look girl " I walked around to the other side of her bed and only saw a small shadow sitting there. How could Maggie see her well enough to know that the child was a girl but I couldn't. I've rarely had difficulties seeing spirits but yet this one was mostly hiding from me, why? The more I tried to focus on the shadow the less I could see. " Bye " Maggie said waving at her wall I watched the small shadow pass right through her window. So I tucked Maggie in and went to bed myself knowing I had to be up early for a Dr. Appointment the next day. I tossed and turned only getting a few hours sleep I couldn't get the child like figure out of my head why would she come here was she simply curious of Maggie and why was she so curious/mischief concerning the babies things leaving the biggest question why wouldn't she let me see her? After a check up with my doctor I went home and did a thorough cleansing of the house opening all the doors, windows and dark spaces spreading positive energy all through the house. I had a little bit more peace of mind and went on with my day as usual. Nothing happened for weeks, until I was making our bed and I kept feeling eyes on me from the bedroom door when I turned around I saw a light short messy haired little girl with wide green eyes that seemed emotionless staring back at me wearing a simple light blue dirty dress with no pattern just a flat bib type collar and waist strings untied. No shoes and what looked like red clay stains on her hands, feet and part of her legs. Her thin lips formed a hard line as she studied my every move. I knelt down in front of her smiling, she quickly scooted away from me and just watched seeming to wait for something to happen. Almost like a scared animal backed in a corner but her eyes remained emotionless, thank you for letting me see you I said softly not wanting her to become frightened and leave can you tell me your name? She said and did nothing until she quickly reached for my hand which I willingly held out to her though I couldn't really feel her touch. She looked like she was trying to smell me though her eyes never left mine until she quickly dashed down the hall into Maggie's room almost as if she was looking for her but she wasn't there, Maggie was still at the sitters house. The little girl sat in the corner her knees tucked to her chest and just stared at me, I asked her if she wanted help moving on but she said nor did anything. She almost looked sad, once again I tried approaching her but this time she wasn't having it. She darted past me and when I went to look for her she was no where to be found. Months have passed and I have only saw her one other time sitting next to the crib looking into it but as soon as she saw me she vanished. I have asked Collin if he has seen her, but he said no.

I have dreamed of her once since then sitting in a barn hiding in what looked like a horse stall quickly eating something her wide eyes darting in every direction. She looked terrified but satisfied if that makes any sense, she snuck out and was gathering eggs from the chicken coop gulping down the yolk until she threw up. A booming male voice laughed cruelly " Thats what you get for being greedy, you little twit. " He grabbed her by the neck and rubbed her face in the vomit, kicked her in the side and left her laying there and I woke up, I'm not sure why she came to our house and why she hasn't come back since. I simply wish there was something I could have done to help her, who knows maybe she will come back I just hope one day some how she can find peace.

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Macknorton (4 stories) (475 posts)
 
3 weeks ago (2017-05-04)
Hi Tretinray

Quite possibly. For me, I believe that once you have left your body, you no longer rely on the crude 5 physical senses to experience the material world.

So you are now experiencing a world that is, from what many understand, vibrating at higher rate.

I guess the theory is your physical body is made of matter and therefore interacts with the matter around you. You are on that particular material wavelength.
When you are no longer in your body, you are interacting with that new environment that is in your new wavelength.
So following that, I personally don't see how those who have passed over but remain close, or trapped, to earth, could "see" as people in a physical body "see".

Light reflects off physical objects and into our retina. If there's no light source in the spirit world such as a sun or light bulb, for example, and no "retina" then the properties of light must be completely different and somehow received differently?

I obviously don't have the answers but it's fun to really think about this and consider all possibilities.

Regards

Mack
trentinray (2 stories) (58 posts)
 
3 weeks ago (2017-05-04)
I just had a thought about the spirits seeing colors or not. What if it is both? A spirit that is stuck here has not been to the other side right? Then there are those spirits of our loved ones that are not stuck but come back to visit or help us out. Maybe one type of spirit sees the world as it was seen in living and the other sees it in the shadowy way.
Example; once you cross over you see the other side in all it's brightness and when returning to our earthly realm looks shadowy in comparison.
Just a thought that popped in my head with the difference of opinions.
-Trentinray
Macknorton (4 stories) (475 posts)
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3 weeks ago (2017-05-03)
Hi Miracles

Absolutely no offence taken. I certainly don't claim to know everything about the Spirit realms. I've read that the matter in our material world can appear very "shadowy" and grey / gloomy.

I've also read that in the Spirit realms away from this plane of matter, there are indescribable colours and sounds that our sense can't even comprehend.

I assume every ones experience is different once they have passed over, much like ours in the land of the so-called "living".

Cheers

Mack
Miracles51031 (31 stories) (4689 posts) mod
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3 weeks ago (2017-05-03)
Mack - I don't want this to come across as me implying your information is incorrect. I just want to share a personal experience with you, and everyone still reading the comments. Based solely on personal experience, those who have passed, yet linger, can see colors.

I'm on my tablet so I am not going to try and fully explain how I know this. (My tablet and I don't speak the same language. And I think my tablet is under the impression it can read my mind Lol.)

Anyway, since I don't think I have submitted this experience, I'm going to. It was actually pretty cool if I do say so myself.

I hope you know I meant no offense Smile
valkricry (32 stories) (2575 posts) mod
 
4 weeks ago (2017-05-01)
Thanks for the info, Mack. Between you and me - I hope they're wrong, because if I come back as a ghostie, I'd miss colors. Kidding
Macknorton (4 stories) (475 posts)
 
4 weeks ago (2017-04-30)
Hi Valkicry

I've read this on a couple of occasions. One source I can recall and can give you is from some Spiritualism literature from the spirit who called himself 'Silver Birch'

There are many books published with his teachings / philosophies and sorry I don't recall which book it's in. It makes sense to me as I believe matter is the shadow, spirit is the reality. Kind of the complete opposite to what our senses tell us...

That may not be everyones cup of tea but I find it fascinating and personally believe it to be genuine.

Cheers

Mac
valkricry (32 stories) (2575 posts) mod
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4 weeks ago (2017-04-30)
Mack,
I have a question. You said, "... From my understanding, to spirits expressing themselves in the spirit world, material objects appear as dark shadowy things, and our spirits / souls are clearly illuminated." While I've heard about our souls being 'shiny', I'd not heard of material things being shadowy. I was wondering if you recall where this theory came from? It intrigues me.
Allicatt (4 stories) (57 posts)
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4 weeks ago (2017-04-30)
Hi Mack, Please allow me to make a quick announcement and I will come back to answer your questions.

To anyone following this story both commenting and not please note that in the next few weeks I may not be able to answer your questions as quickly as I have been due to some things that I learned concerning my pregnancy and precautions that we are going to have to take, my little one could be here in a matter of weeks and I have quite a bit of preparation left concerning my daughter Maggie's care while I am in the hospital and myself including multiple up coming doctor appointments. I simply didn't want anyone to think that I am ignoring You, I thank each of You in advance for reading this and for being patient and understanding. Depending on how things go after delivery it may still be awhile before I can come back, but I will be returning.

Wishing You all the best,
Allicatt

Alrighty, coming back to You Mack let's see if I can purify this water a little bit rather than throwing in Yet another handful of dirt. Starting with using the EVP recorder.

And before anyone says it yes I know this source of EVP recorder is not highly reliable but one of the recorders used that showed the words being spoken on my screen was an app on my phone. Titled Ghost hunting tools (detector) anyone that has a smartphone can look it up under google play store. I tried it under the suggestion of a friend who said she used it a few times and liked it so curiosity got the better of me. While it is far from fully accurate and you obviously get words that have nothing to do with what's going on I did get a few words that were relevant to the conversation the little girl and I were having but in the long run I ended up deleting the app because honestly while its not really that grand, kind of useful but not enough to keep. I never mentioned this before because I already know that a lot are looking at this as fictional unfortunately but everyone has a right to question it as I know that this site gets a lot of evident contient that is fictional and I didn't want everyone to think that I was an idiot on top of it all. BUT I was also using our original EVP recorder to capture the actual voice recording which is an 8Gb digital Ghost EVP recorder. Definitely not top of the line but a lot more reliable than some that I have had. The majority of the conversation I was using my gifts focusing mostly on hearing and using the EVP recorder and app as a second refrence. As for your question of can You guys hear the recording I honestly am not sure how I can send it.

Its stored on a memory card that is in the Evp recorder of course and right now we do not have a working laptop seeing that Maggie pulled it off our kitchen counter while it was charging and it damaged the screen and the keyboard and the usb cord that goes from my EVP recorder to hook up to a device is too large to be plugged into my phone. I'm not sure how I could get the recording to my phone from the Evp recorder unfortunately... Future refrence to anyone with a toddler four year olds and electronics are not a good combination especially when it has a touchscreen and flimsy plastic hinges that connect the keyboard to the screen. Confused

Secondly thank you for explaining that spirits can only see objects in as You described a shadowy or dark object that is something I did not know and find both sad and interesting I'm going to look into that. Do You know why that's the case? I have never heard of that before, the only logical explanation that I have concerning her being drawn to the toy is I'm pretty sure that she has never had someone actually give her a gift before or actually show her kindness.

I purposley got a horse because I know that she was around animals when she was alive seeing that in the dream I had there were chickens and horses I thought something familiar may actually draw her to it and I got one with the rainbow mane and tail because I thought it would bring her joy because what little girl dosent love something bright and colorful but now knowing that spirits can't see things in color but more shadowy objects I know that won't be the case. I'm not really sure other wise why she would be drawn to it other than the knowing that it is hers alone and possibly that made her feel important or special which was my intent I wanted her to actually feel loved for once.

As for how I try and help spirits cross over which please keep in mind I haven't had a lot of sucess with this. I am still improving my methods and I am completely open to any advice that others may have concerning it.

I always make sure my house has been thoroughly cleansed, that I am fully shielded and protected and I normally use a white candle, incense (usually a calming nature based scent or myrrh) and an amethyst stone that I keep charged with peaceful energy. I then invite the spirit that I have been encountering to step forward and to focus on the place that they are attempting to go. Like you would when You are trying to astral project and to see and feel themself there until they reach their destination. I have only known it to help twice unfortunately and I am still trying to learn better ways to help as it seems through the years I have encountered a lot of spirits that seem to be stuck here and there is little I can normally do to help.

If you have anymore questions please feel free to ask.

Sincerely, Allicatt
Macknorton (4 stories) (475 posts)
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4 weeks ago (2017-04-29)
Hi Allicat

Thanks for your response, however it has simply created more confusion and muddied the waters further.

Your detailed description of your interaction / conversation using the EVP and how words appeared on your screen, was exactly that: a description of conversation in the room, between yourself and this spirit, centred around a toy.

(note: from my understanding, to spirits expressing themselves in the spirit world, material objects appear as dark shadowy things, and our spirits / souls are clearly illuminated. So why or how a spirit existing on a different plane / vibration would be drawn to yet another simply shadowy object is hard to understand. A flesh and blood abused child, sure, but a spirit?)

Your subsequent description contradicted that first description to a large degree.

You wrote:
"...Later when I went back and actually listened to my Evp recording it was a lot as you said. Only a few words were actually understandable and the rest static. I was able to make out " mine " (when she was referring to the horse) and " Girl" (when I asked her name the first time) ..."

Your earlier description of your conversation with this apparent child painted a much different picture. A picture of you and her exchanging questions and answers in utter clarity, as if she was a real child sitting there in front of you.

Why have an EVP at all when it was seemingly mind-to-mind communication? Why then change your story to later listening back and conveniently picking up these key words over otherwise pure static?
Can we hear this recording?

Please advise what make and model EVP you have and how these words appear on the screen.

I quote: "...can I ask you a question? There was a long pause and I finally saw Yes coming up on the screen.
What's your name?
Another long pause followed by the word Girl..."

I have researched this further and can't find any EVP that has this incredible feature?

Also you mentioned assisting spirits to "pass over". Can you please provide details on how you personally achieve this very complicated and difficult process, as I'm sure many readers who have spirits in their homes, would love to know so they can also assist these apparently lost souls find peace.

Regards
Mack
Allicatt (4 stories) (57 posts)
 
4 weeks ago (2017-04-29)
Valkricry, Thank you for those points especially the years. I thought about comparing based on clothing and things of that nature I was just having a hard time with the clothing. Honestly, I never would have thought about the insult being a good point as well. Missouri is known for a lot of war history involvment a few more than others. I appreciate your insight.

Sincerely, Alli
valkricry (32 stories) (2575 posts) mod
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4 weeks ago (2017-04-29)
Sometimes the answers lie in dreams. This comment,"I haven't been able to get a lot of research done concerning the history of the land because I don't have a lot of information concerning the little girl. I don't have a first or last name to go by or a year unfortunately and concedering this house has been here for years I don't really know where to begin." Actually you do, and I'll explain why I think so.
First, you know they had chickens (if you are no longer rural enough to have them too, that's clue 1.) So you can look into what years that might have involved.
Too vast an area? Clue 2: Man calls her a 'twit', which is Brit slang, not really in use until 1935. Not really popular in America until the late 40's, early 50's. Probably migrated here with returning troops from the war.
Clue 3: The girl's mode of dress. Peter Pan collar, and ties. Mostly popular between 1930 and 1960. Because of the usage of 'twit' I'd focus late 40s, early 50s until the 60s.
Bibliothecarius (5 stories) (657 posts)
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4 weeks ago (2017-04-29)
Alli, I'm just going to respond to Tweed for a moment, if you'll pardon me.

Tweed, it has never been wrong to look out for your friends' best interests through caution, questioning, or simple statements of support. (Sent you a more detailed e-mail.)

Best,
-Biblio.
Allicatt (4 stories) (57 posts)
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4 weeks ago (2017-04-28)
Hello Tweed, Let me just take a second to say thank you for your honesty concerning all of this. I would much rather You just out right say it then to continue with the captin planet get up even though you do have a good sense of humor. I would like to say that it is not in my intentions to as you said "garnering attention." That is not why I shared this story at all. I shared this experience because I thought it was something that others could take interest in. I have absolutely nothing to gain from spinning a tale about a little ghost girl who has went through horrific things. I couldn't begin to even make up a story so horrid to draw attention that is absolutely wrong in so many ways. Nor am I attempting to be a damsel in distress, I am sorry if this seems far fetch or false and You have every right to question it, I joined this site because I enjoy other peoples accounts and stories even though I don't comment often I hope that later I can some how be of help even if its just a word of comfort or uunderstanding, being able to give someone else advice in a topic I'm strong in, who knows.

Sincerely, Alli Smile
Tweed (17 stories) (1934 posts)
+2
4 weeks ago (2017-04-28)
Allicatt,

Something I've noticed with a lot of the 'fiction' writers on here who are successful in garnering a lot of attention from the forum. Is they leave things open ended. In that they don't show any interest in finding out the history of something, or they have a reason/excuse for not doing so.

I find it a stretch that someone with medium skills, who has helped ghosts before, would not be making this girl's identity a priority, name known or not.

Biblio and I have something of an online friendship outside this forum. I hope he doesn't get too angry at what I'm about to say.
I've noticed Biblio, and Rook for that matter, can't resist helping a dame in need. It's a typical male urge, and a very honourable one at that. But unfortunately some people can be overwhelmed by their desire to 'fix' a situation, and to help in general, that they don't see the wood from the trees. This appears to have developed within the comments of your narrative.

I hope you aren't a time waster because I hate watching good people being taken advantage of. But, as I'm sure you're aware, I have been watching this thread, like Mack, and I think you're either totally honest, or you've developed your deceptive skills as a YGS re-offender. Your syntax is all over the place, and I unfortunately think it's the latter. I also found your EVP session very fanciful, it prompted me to email an experienced member to question if it was indeed possible. Their response about your EVP session was very similar to Mack's.

Please use this site for honest interactions only. Or find another site which supports role playing.
Wish-Not (16 stories) (507 posts)
+2
4 weeks ago (2017-04-28)
Allicatt- Concerning your point of not knowing where to start looking,

" I don't have a first or last name to go by or a year unfortunately and concedering this house has been here for years I don't really know where to begin.",

In Arkansas, one would come to my office. I work in the Circuit Clerks office. We keep the land records. One can go all the way back to the 1820's to find out who owned a piece of property. The Assessor's office can aid in getting names for the past few owner's. From there you would have to spend time researching the index books.

Just thought I would throw that in there for you. We are here to help, any way we can.

Been following this thread, fascinating story!
Allicatt (4 stories) (57 posts)
 
4 weeks ago (2017-04-28)
Hello Mack Smile

Thank you for all of your questions and I do apologize for the delay in response. I will do my best to answer all of your questions.

Your first question why at first Maggie could see her clearly and I could only see her in shadow form. My best explanation is this, while I do have psychic abilities I am by no means an expert. I have noticed through the years that a lot of times I can either see, hear or feel them clearly if I am fully focusing and open to the spirit. A good example would be if I am solely trying to see them then normally I have a harder time hearing them clearly and vice versa. I can almost always feel spirits around me or in my home but I can rarely see and hear a spirit clearly at the same time unless I completely open myself to them. When I was younger that was not the case at all but unfortunately over the years that has changed. For what reason I can't really exsplain. I also believe that at the time the little girl didn't trust me She probably trusted Maggie because she is a child reaching out to another and while I don't believe that she can effect my perception I do believe that in a sense she was trying to hide from me because the little girl has had horrible history with adults in general.

When I said that I rarely have difficulties seeing spirits which I rarely do its because of all my senses I rely on sight the most and usually that is how I first notice that something is around that normally isnt. I hope that makes sense.

Leading to the night that I used my EVP recorder, the night that I set up the Evp recorder I had opened myself up completely to the little girl and while it took her a while to approach the little horse I got her while I was in the room and even longer for her to actually talk to me I was leaning more on trying to hear her that night. She wasn't strictly talking to the recorder but more to me. Later when I went back and actually listened to my Evp recording it was a lot as you said. Only a few words were actually understandable and the rest static. I was able to make out " mine " (when she was referring to the horse) and " Girl" (when I asked her name the first time) .

I rarely rely strictly on equipment because it isn't fully reliable or just my gifts because as I said above they are not as sharp as they use to be, which is my own fault but true none the less. I always like to have a form of confirmation being it another person or equipment when I am trying to help a spirit in some way or another.

Leading to your final three points concerning why I shared this experience here, research and psychics/ Mediums. I originally shared this here not looking for help but rather because one I have posted a few exsperiences before and got interesting insight on things that happened when I was a child and a teenager one that was happening when I shared it and I got some good advice. Secondly because I thought that some of the users may find it interesting I honestly didn't know if the little girl was going to come back or not but she did and I was asked to share anything new that may have happened later on concerning this so I did and in the end I did end up looking for advice because I am having a difficult time helping her pass on. Some spirits its easier to help lead to passing than others.

I haven't been able to get a lot of research done concerning the history of the land because I don't have a lot of information concerning the little girl. I don't have a first or last name to go by or a year unfortunately and concedering this house has been here for years I don't really know where to begin. As for the psychic or medium coming into my home I'm just not comfortable with that there are just to many fakes and allowing someone I don't know into my home is not something I am ok with. Nor can I really afford something like that either. I hope that I have answered all of your questions and that it helps bring some clarity. If you have anymore please feel free to ask.

Sincerely, Alli
Captain_Planet (2 posts)
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4 weeks ago (2017-04-28)
Earth
Fire
Wind
Water
Heart! Love

GO PLANET!

I hope the paint you're using is biodegradable Mack, large amounts were needed to cover every corner of the last room. Never fear, I have brought some along! It's magic paint, all the colours of the rainbow, to match the horse of course!

My sentient senses tell me there's trouble a-brewing at the old sawmill. I must go where I am needed. So long for now YGS and remember...

THE POWER IS YOURS!
Bibliothecarius (5 stories) (657 posts)
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4 weeks ago (2017-04-27)
Alli:

Was pondering your response while driving home this evening. Do what any sensible person does: apologize for having upset her, and let her accept your apology when she's ready. State that you're sad that you upset her, and you're sorry because you didn't mean to.

I'll now get out of the way so you can address Mack's questions/concerns.

-Biblio.
Macknorton (4 stories) (475 posts)
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4 weeks ago (2017-04-27)
Hi Allicatt

I've been following this thread and just read you last couple of posts. I have some points that have confused me somewhat so if you are able to clarify, in order for us to assist you, that would be great!

You wrote: "...How could Maggie see her well enough to know that the child was a girl but I couldn't. I've rarely had difficulties seeing spirits but yet this one was mostly hiding from me, why? The more I tried to focus on the shadow the less I could see..."

I'm no expert on how or why spirits appear themselves to people, but I'm baffled as to how the spirit of a young child would be able to "mostly" show herself to you in shadow form at will. What's the point? I always look at motive - why (and how) would she do that? How does she know how psychic you are? She can't control what your perceptions are, surely?

Also you wrote: "...I opened the door the rest of the way to find her sitting on her bed staring at her floor giggling she turned to me still laughing and said "Look girl " I walked around to the other side of her bed and only saw a small shadow sitting there..."

This also baffling to me (don't take it personally - I'm often baffled as I'm a simple man) as how this spirit could be showing herself fully (I assume) to your daughter (who clearly wasn't afraid) whilst simultaneously revealing herself only as a shadow to you. Now, not everybody can "see" spirit, in fact I would say it's a minority who can, and for the vast majority of that minority, the spirit chooses to appear to people, much to the shock and surprise of those people.

You wrote: " I've rarely had difficulties seeing spirits but yet this one was mostly hiding from me..."

In my experience there are very few people who have no trouble seeing spirits, unless they are consciously "opening up" and raising their vibration and consciousness to interact with spirit in the higher vibrations. If you rarely have difficulties in seeing spirits then you must be one of a rare breed who is a very advanced, well-trained psychic / medium.

If that's the case, then logically that leads me onto the next baffling aspect of your recent EVP post. Personally, I can't fathom why would the spirit of a child decide to appear fully to you (and you must have well developed psychic abilities to maintain and hold this image) but then for some unknown reason (s) the spirit chooses to communicate through an entirely different "wave-length" or medium when she's appearing to you and interacting. That would take an incredible amount of skill and effort, I would imagine, on the spirits part to pull that off. It almost seems like an incredibly convoluted and unnecessary method of spirit-to-human communication.

Personally, I have never heard of this kind of dual-communication, maybe other members / readers have? And also my experience with EVP's are that, at best, the static and noise is extremely hard to discern what is being said, if any words are being said at all. It often requires multiple replays to ascertain what the noises are. The image you create is one of you sitting there with your EVP and clearly communicating with this spirit as if you are texting, or on the phone, just doesn't fit with what I know about the unreliability and confusion that comes with EVP's or mediumship in general.

And finally, it does seem unusual that you have come to this site to further try and understand what is occurring, and have spent a lot of time writing and reading replies, yet you haven't carried out any actual research into the area in terms of finding out the child's identity / circumstances as several members have suggested.

And I absolutely think that getting a reputable medium / psychic in to your home would be a fantastic idea, as they could help further gain information on the identity and more importantly, assist this spirit to rest / pass over.
Yet you don't want to do that either. That is a tad frustrating to those willing to spend their time and energy to assist you on this site.

These are only my opinions and merely questions of a searching mind.

Regards

Mack
BeautInside (2 stories) (157 posts)
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4 weeks ago (2017-04-27)
Alli- I wish I could help you through this but I lack experience and knowledge. I really do hope that you are able to help this beautiful soul, who fell victim to such inhuman atrocities, and give her the closure and peace she so much needs and deserves.
There are wiser users that might give you some advice on how to help this defenseless little soul (at least I hope so)...

Blessings. Love
Allicatt (4 stories) (57 posts)
 
4 weeks ago (2017-04-27)
Bibilo, Unfortunately that seems to be the case and I feel as if I'm standing on a rickety bridge above a long fall when it comes to her. As ridiculous or dangerous as this may sound I feel as if I am responsible for her. I'm just not sure how to handle it from here, as You said it probably is rage that is keeping her sentient and I am very lucky that she walked away and didn't lash out.

As hard as it may be I think my next best step is trying to help her pass on. Though before I can even begin to do that I have to rebuild the trust that I just tattered. To go from seeing her tiny smile first time ever back to angry and blank in one night is heartwrenching.

Hopefully I can think of the best way of helping her pass on peacefully so she dosent have to live with all that anger and hurt anymore.

Beautinside, She definitely has been through a lot more than any person especially child should ever have to endure. I have dreamed more about what she has went through and seeing that there are younger users on this site I won't be going into detail. I can say she has seen just about every form of abuse there is. Physical, emotional, sexual... Its just beyond brutal. If anyone deserves peace and happiness its this precious little girl.

Sincerely, Alli
BeautInside (2 stories) (157 posts)
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4 weeks ago (2017-04-27)
Hi Allicatt,

I don't have much to add. But that little girl must've lived such a sad life. On top of that, looks like she wasn't even given a name, this is heart breaking...
Truly hope she can find some confort in you and your little girl.
Wish you and your family (soon to grow bigger) the best! Love
Bibliothecarius (5 stories) (657 posts)
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4 weeks ago (2017-04-27)
Oh God, Alli! She's HORRIFICALLY traumatized.

[Sidenote: book title," A Child Called 'It'"]

He didn't tell her what her name was. Abuse through not only physical violence but also through cultivated dependency upon him and his power over her.

His bullying caused her dissociative thinking. His manipulations DELIBERATELY PROGRAMMED her into believing herself to be an object, not an individual person.

You're very fortunate that she chose to walk away for a little while at that point. My guess --and it is a guess-- is the force holding her together as an intelligent haunting is pure frustrated rage. She must like you, as you're deliberately nice to her, and your daughter plays with her, and you've given her a present. [Odd thought for future reference: If it ever comes up again as a topic of conversation, ask her what name she'd have liked to have.] She walked away because you were right up against the boundary, but you were provoking her *accidentally,* not on purpose. She will cool down a little, over time (her perception of it, not necessarily yours), and she will return to play with her present if it is set up prominently and explicitly for her alone. You can tell her how much you appreciate her being kind to your daughter, and how lovely it is to enjoy being happy and kind, but she'll have SERIOUS trust issues for as long as she remains as a sentient spirit.

Best,
Biblio.
Allicatt (4 stories) (57 posts)
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4 weeks ago (2017-04-27)
AugustaM, Thank you for reading and your comment, You bring up a lot of valid points. While I am not comfortable bringing a psychic or a medium into my home mainly because there are so many phonies and other spiritual hazards that can come with it. You have brought a lot of good research points to my attention.

I haven't really had the chance to look into the actual property history here because I have been busy getting things settled with Maggie and getting ready for my baby who is going to be here sooner than we thought but after things calm down a bit I do plan on seeing what I can find and letting everyone know.

I also do have an update for those who have been following. A few nights ago I was thinking of a way that I could better communicate with the little girl since she wouldn't talk directly with or to me. So I decided to get out my EVP reader and see if I would have any better luck. So I told her that it was a game and that she could tell me anything she wanted with it and nobody else in the house would know.

I set it down in the livingroom next to her pony and waited for anything after about an hour of watching the bars spike and fall between trying to occupy myself with a book I finally got my first word.

Horse

I smiled as I watched the horse fall over on its side looked over and saw her running her tiny fingers through the yarn rainbow mane.

Mine

Yes, I replied the horse is just for you. You can play with her anytime you want.

Girl

Play

I thought she meant was Maggie going to play with her horse, so I told her no that Maggie wouldn't take it.

Too

She can play with You tommrow she is sleeping.

For the first time ever I saw the tinest smile on her face it took everything in me not to tear up. I wanted to know more about her and had the top underlying question her name. I didn't want to chance ruining such a special moment so I tried to approach it carefully.

Can I ask you a question?

There was a long pause and I finally saw yes come across my screen.

Whats your name?

Another long pause followed by the word

Girl

I stopped confused wondering if I worded my question in a way she understood.

I know Your a girl sweetie but what's your name what do people call you?

She looked at me hard her eyes once again emotionless and her lips a firm angry line.

Girl

After that she stood up and walked out through the wall leading into Maggies room. I went to the door and looked in but she was no where to be found. I hope that I will get the chance to talk with her again but next time I will be more careful. I just hope everything isn't undone.
AugustaM (2 stories) (250 posts)
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1 month ago (2017-04-26)
What a fascinating account and even more interesting as the comments unfolded! Good going with the toy idea and follow through - the idea of this little one having a lovely new toy of her own warms my heart Love

In terms of research, I think you may be up against a bit of a dead end. I don't know what kind of area you live in but, I suppose, every area was at one time rural and I am getting the feeling that's exactly the environment this little girl was stuck in - rural and isolated. In times gone by, many children were born at home and went without any sort of vital documentation. She could have lived and died without anyone outside of the property ever having known she existed...it's a heartbreaking thought. I get the feeling that the mother was absolutely out of the picture as others have suggested and a sense of misplaced blame for the mother's death (i.e. In child birth, I am not suggesting that this little girl is a 'bad seed' far from it) or departure might be one of the reasons that horrible man felt resentment for the little girl.

Given my hunch that documentation in this case might not be yielding, perhaps, a psychic or medium might be a worthwhile option. And, just the same, it couldn't hurt to just check for records and documents just in case. Maybe study the settlement history and population growth for your area - I get the feeling that all this happened while the area was still quite rural... Turn of the century-ish...that may help in giving you a date range. Certainly property records can give you the names of previous owners of the land you live on... I would focus on the years from about 1900-1936. Then cross reference the names you get in local newspapers - if a man had a temper bad enough to take it out on a helpless little girl, for certain he made the local newspapers for some misdeed or another...sadly, the abuse probably wouldn't have made the paper but having the name of a former owner who consistently popped up in local news for drunken brawls etc would give you a pretty solid indication that you had your man.
Melda (8 stories) (258 posts)
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1 month ago (2017-04-25)
Allicat - You're quite right, keep rolling with the jokes because I've discovered that that is exactly what the comment by Captain Planet was Laugh

I came out very quickly in your defense without thinking twice as my daughter gave birth to my sixth grandchild (named Lia) on 10 April so at the moment I feel very motherly and grandmotherly! Please let me know when your baby is born Smile

Regards, Melda
Allicatt (4 stories) (57 posts)
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1 month ago (2017-04-25)
Captain planet, Thank you for the warning though I do know that fresh crib bedding is highly important considering newborns get sick very easily. I plan on washing it before my baby is born. Thank you for your concern Smile

Maggie is my oldest daughter yes, but I do not have a middle child. I am currently pregnant with my second. Maggie rarely actually goes to the sitters house, usually only when I go to the doctor and her dad is working and only long enough for my appointment and then I go get her.

Maggie can definitely pick up words from others, though her vocabulary is limited compared to children her age she can form simple sentences. Social ques are hit and miss but with speech therapy and interactive groups she is doing better.

Good luck with your mullet remember to keep the balance between the party and buisness or things just look funky... And not in a good way. Lol

Mack, I agree Trump could definitely use a visit from captin planet, without causing a political debate here I believe he could use some help cleaning up some messes of his own and others.

Melda, Spotless is definitely the proper wording for it, her I'm pretty sure if I do much more cleaning my house will forever smell of lysol and cleaning supplies. Lol I thought I was OCD before considering Maggie is autistic and has to have structure and order, but add an infant into the equation and my cleaning and organization skills went to a whole new level. I appreciate your kind comments. I try not to let people get the best of me I just let it roll and go with the jokes.

Sincerely, Alli
Melda (8 stories) (258 posts)
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1 month ago (2017-04-25)
Tweed - Have just gone into the profile page of Captain Planet. Do you have any idea of what is happening here? Would like to hear your take on this. ("May or may not be Tweed") Confused This doesn't seem like the type of gag you would pull.

What the hell is going on here? I have noticed that recently people are coming up with rather weird stuff.

Regards, Melda
Melda (8 stories) (258 posts)
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1 month ago (2017-04-25)
Captain Planet - Perhaps you should credit Allicat with a modicum of intelligence.

What on earth gives you the impression that she would place her baby in a dusty crib? I have no doubt whatsoever that the crib will be spotless when the baby occupies it!

I sincerely hope you were simply cracking a joke, insensitive as it might be.

Regards, Melda
Macknorton (4 stories) (475 posts)
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1 month ago (2017-04-24)
Captain Planet! Thank God you're here!
"Captain Planet, he's our hero! Getting pollution back to zero!"
I sincerely hope you visit Mr Trump and speak sternly to him and his cronies.
Oh and by the way... Nice mullet!
Laugh

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