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Anno_Domini (3 stories) (167 posts)
3 years ago (2019-07-31)
Hi sunshinemilia, I think that your gut feeling (terror when you saw her as a shadow) tells you all you need to know about it. Please avoid it.

Lady-glow... Yes, to make it all the more convincing, I don't see why it cannot replicate the cross necklace. We must remember that real life is not like in the movies, where demons shirk away at any sign of the cross. There have been actual (documented) cases of demonic possession and influence upon Catholic priests (one such case documented in the book "Hostage To The Devil" by Malachi Martin), who went about their duties in their vestments and sacraments (but found it increasingly hard to perform their duties as their possession progressed).

Yes the while Christian cross reminds them of their eventual defeat by the Christ, but some of them seem to tolerate these reminders more than others.

BeautInside... Demons (from the Christian perspective) aren't exactly known for their truthfulness and forthrightness... In fact they existed before time was created so I can't imagine that they would be too impatient. I feel that our definitions of "demons" are not in sync, so I think it helpful that I explain that I am not talking about Hollywood-style definition of demons for theatrical effect, with red eyes and causing objects to fly about. In fact, demons are "deceiving spirits" (1 Kings 22:23). They're not going to show up with horns and breathing fire. They'd much rather appear as someone you have a connection with (deceased relative / friend / guardian etc) to lure one into a relationship with them.
Caz (342 posts)
3 years ago (2019-07-29)
Hello Sunshinemilia,
This is, without a doubt, the saddest thing I have ever read on this site! It reminded me too, of friends who were expecting twin boys about 15 or 16 years ago, but when the big day came, there was only one live birth and the other was stillborn.
I can't even begin to imagine how that must have felt, but at least they got to hold the little body and tell him how much he was loved. They also named him and found a place in a beautiful and peaceful garden of remembrance, which was solely for children. They visit often with their other two children to spend time with their son and often take a picnic. Then when the boys birthday comes around, there's always a special cake with both their names on it.
I'm so very sorry your parents naver got the chance to do any of these things. The doctor's motives for not telling them of their unborn child may have been good, but they were wrong. Your parents should have been told, then maybe they could've done something for their lost little one. They are not to blame for not knowing, but now that they do, would they not consider doing helping her now?
You say your fear is 'letting her into your lives', but isn't she already there? She's been wandering around 'literally' like a little lost soul searching for her family, when what she needs is to be at peace.
Biblio is right! This child needs to be acknowledged by your family and given a name of her very own.
Maybe your parents would consider making a small plot on your land or garden for her and plant a tree or a pretty bush, with a little plaque with her name on it. Somewhere you could talk to her or lay flowers on her/your birthday and I wouldn't be at all surprised if you never saw her again!
PS...She hasn't got 'your face' btw, she has her very own which looks exactly like yours, because she's your twin sister! Best wishes to you and your family!
sunshinemilia (1 stories) (13 posts)
3 years ago (2019-07-26)
also sort of an update I could just be overreacting: we don't usually talk about this subject out loud in my house especially not at night but 2 nights ago my boyfriend and I were speaking about her over the phone, he kept referring to the other spirits as well. He was encouraging me to write about the other spirits and encounters in my house. I started to feel uneasy and scared and I told him we shouldn't be talking about it. As if on queue my brothers came running to my room asking if I "heard it". I didn't hear anything and probably either could be that I don't have their gifts or because I'm very Hard of Hearing. They heard someone knocking on their window. My dad came into the living room and said he heard it on his window as well. He went into the backyard with his gun to make sure it wasn't someone outside, no one was there. I'm afraid, maybe it wasn't my twin it could have been a couple other ones, but I think something wants us to let it in.
sunshinemilia (1 stories) (13 posts)
3 years ago (2019-07-26)
[at] BeautInside when I saw her she appeared to me as a shadow, sometimes I wonder if I ever saw her face and maybe over time I suppressed the memory, I was terrified. As soon as she disappeared into the bathroom I would wake my mom up and beg her to hold me while I slept. My niece wasn't afraid, she seemed angry actually. Like she couldn't believe this girl had the audacity to look like me. I don't think she knows that what she's seeing are spirits. No one has ever talked to her about them and she's never even seen a ghost on tv. When she sees something bad she says it's a monster and the others she thinks are just people that no one else sees.
sunshinemilia (1 stories) (13 posts)
3 years ago (2019-07-26)
[at] anno_domini that's exactly how my dad feels. I understand where that feeling and thought process comes from as those exact thoughts are always in the back of my head. My fear is finally allowing her to enter our lives in some way and then accidentally letting something else in.
BeautInside (3 stories) (326 posts)
3 years ago (2019-07-26)
Hi Anno_Domini,

Those are interesting points, but for what I can understand "fake Emmy" has been around for several years and hasn't create any havoc, which in my opinion doesn't match with any demon's behaviour (unless this is a very patient one). On the contrary, her interactions with Emilia and her family seem to me very benevolent. She didn't try to scare anyone, she just seems lost and out of place. It's natural to fear what we don't know, and what we don't understand, so being afraid of any interaction looks natural to me. Especially, if someone had a negative experience in the past.

It looks like "fake Emily" is trying to belong, if she really was Emilia's twin she should actually belong to that family, she probably feels it too... She didn't make it to this realm, even though she was a still-born, an inoccent soul, it's still a soul. Maybe she didn't cross to the other side because she couldn't let go that sense of belonging, and "grew up" mimicking Emily's growth.

You pointed out some interesting questions undoubtedly, but for me it lacks the havoc a demon is due to cause. In so many years, that entity has shown nothing but a benevolent behaviour. I know they can be deceiving, but somehow over years it would have to lose its patience. πŸ˜‰

[at] Sunshinemilia, I'd trully appreciate if you could reply to the following questions:
1) when you first saw "fake Emmy", do you remember the feeling it gave you? Fear, confusion, sadness...?
2) When your niece told you about her, did she look scared?

Usually the feeling it gives is half way to understand the nature of the entity. But this is just my opinion. 😊

Looking forward to hear from you. ❀
lady-glow (13 stories) (2930 posts)
3 years ago (2019-07-26)

Those are some interesting points though, - do you think a demon would be fine wearing a cross or any other religious symbol as part of their attire?

As for using speech as a means of communication, it has been discussed that often spirits 'talk' through telepathy, hence skipping the need of learning to talk as a living child would.

In my opinion, some spirits are unable to leave this realm either because the person isn't aware of their own death or because they are afraid of what might be waiting for them at the other side.
Anno_Domini (3 stories) (167 posts)
3 years ago (2019-07-26)
Hi sunshinemilia,

I tend to take the side of your family on this, that interaction with "it" should not be sought nor encouraged.

I do not believe that "spirits" of people come / stay back in our realm, but let's say that they do.

1. Who has been clothing her? Where did she get her clothes from like the cross she was wearing?

2. Why does she age in tandem with you? Usually you read in stories that such "spirits" stay the age that the pass on, so how does she age in tandem?

3. Who taught her how to talk? I don't think any child has learnt to talk on their own. Ever. Yet she talked to your brother.

4. From your account, you seem to be the target of its attention. It first appeared to you when you were 6, and then to others around you when you didn't acknowledge its presence.

I do not believe that ghost of the deceased stay in our realm. This is a demon which wants to make contact with you, and I would advise against it (pls see my profile for my thoughts). This is probably a demon who is using the excuse of your vanishing twin (as lady-glow mentioned) to interact with you or your family. Instead, if you are religious, rebuke it in the Lord's name. If you're not your best option would be to seek help from your local pastor or priest, especially if the activity escalates.
lady-glow (13 stories) (2930 posts)
3 years ago (2019-07-25)
sunshinemilia - thanks for replying and for the additional information.

I'm not surprised if your father and siblings are afraid of their abilities, not all people with sensitivity to the paranormal are ready to embrace their skills and to make them part of their daily life. Unfortunately for them, spirits will always feel attracted to them 'thinking' that they can help them with they unresolved issues.

If your family decide never to establish contact with the paranormal, I hope they learn to protect themselves from the draining effects of those spirits.

Since it seems like your family wouldn't come together to talk to your sister, perhaps your mother and you can talk to her even if you can't see her.

Good luck and keep us posted.
Bibliothecarius (9 stories) (1082 posts)
3 years ago (2019-07-25)
Greetings, again, sunshinemilia.

I read your response to lady-glow; it has me somewhat concerned.

I feel sorry for your dad, as "his abilities have scared him since he was young." I know what that can feel like. I have been scared by one of my own abilities as recently as four years ago; however, disliking some of the sensations and data my mind can discover through whatever bizarre process it uses doesn't mean I can ignore the entirety of my brain. I embrace the fear & the uncertainty because *sometimes* they're simply a part of getting the insights and the knowledge that is revealed to me.

Yes, there are scary spirits and entities at work in the world; however, an overwhelming number of spiritual entities are either good or completely indifferent. Good spirits (whether they are angels, guardians, guides, elementals, pranksters, or protective loved ones) and indifferent ones (usually residual hauntings that are engrossed in tasks or behaviors from their lifetime, or perhaps sentient entities that are simply doing their own thing and really can't be bothered with living people) make up the bulk of haunting phenomena.

Certainly, living people may react with shock or fear to any entity, but that's the reaction of the living person to unexpected or inexplicable circumstances; that's *not* the fault of the spirit.

When people "shut off" their natural gifts, that can create a spiritual pressure, like water held back by a dam. If more that one family member is suppressing their psychic abilities, and they're sharing a house, that's a whole heck of a lot of unused energy just sitting there. No wonder "things follow and feed off of members of my family and their energy." It's entirely possible that "fake Emmy" is simply using a portion of that untapped potential to manifest herself as she believes herself (with some justification) to be a part of the family.

Honestly, the policy of ignoring "fake Emmy" to the point of iron-clad resistance to acknowledging her at all probably *should* have generated angry & negative behavior. The fact that the worst thing she's done is wake people up when she's lonely would indicate that she is --as you suggested--"innocent."

When it comes to discovering your twin's identity, your dad "begged me not to, because when you seek something out you might actually find it." This doesn't mean that ignoring it will make it go away; finding out what is going on is the reason some of us have these gifts in the first place. I believe that, given sufficient time and evidence, science will be able to discern the nature of these "gifts." (I suspect that it's something to do with the human brain's electrical energy interacting with quantum fields to a greater or a lesser degree, but that's *only* a theory.) If your family is religious in some way --I infer this from your belief in Heaven-- then ignoring these gifts is just squandering the very tools that can be used to determine what is happening and why.

I apologize if this seemed a bit "preachy" (from an agnostic, no less!), but it is a self-defeating exercise to ignore the tools available while waiting for the problem to solve itself.

Take care.

Sincere best wishes,
sunshinemilia (1 stories) (13 posts)
3 years ago (2019-07-25)
[at] lady-glow
Thank you so much for your insight. I don't believe she mimics my clothes, always a dress of some sort. I suppose my niece must have spoken to her and realized she was not speaking to me. She is very calm about the things she sees. My parents have not given her a name, my dad tries to pretend she doesn't exist when he can (his abilities have scared him since he was young and that's how he copes). Everyone (except my niece) is afraid of their abilities like my father so every experience they have with spirits is unwanted and they refuse to seek them or engage contact with them. A group effort to help her is sort of impossible, my father and my brothers and sister believe that speaking to her/them is the worst thing you can do, that by engaging it will make the activity worse and more frequent. My mother and I have always been curious as to what would keep her here? We believe in a heaven and we don't understand why an unborn baby that is innocent would still be tethered to this earth?
BeautInside (3 stories) (326 posts)
3 years ago (2019-07-25)
Hi SunshineEmilia,

Please allow me to quote the following part ""He said a girl that looked exactly like me, he thought it was me, shook him awake saying TJ wake up! Please wake up! TJ!" He was angry of course and yelled at her "get out of my room!" He said "I" got sad and slowly walked up the stairs...". If this was a dark entity it would get angry, vengeful or both, instead of sad.

It breaks my heart just to think that someone can be that lonely, I am very sorry for your mother's loss but it seems a loss for all of your close family too... This might be somethig you weren't counting on, but there's something that needs to be done. Biblio is right, you should address your twin, give her own name, treat her as family and try to explain what happened o her and why not everyone is capable of aknowledge her. I don't think ignoring her is the best decision, she's lonely and that attitude towards someone, even for a wondering soul, could be a nightmare.

Please take care and keep us posted. ❀
Bibliothecarius (9 stories) (1082 posts)
3 years ago (2019-07-24)
Greetings, sunshinemilia; welcome to YGS.

I'd like to quote one of lady-glow's points and build upon it: "Based on your narrative, it doesn't seem like your twin means any harm to anyone..." From your description, I suspect that the entity is your deceased twin; those who can see her have limited, almost one-sided interactions with her. My concern is that your brother's (understandable) comments were of outright rejection.

Though your young cousin is able to distinguish between you and "the fake Emmy," ignoring her completely may be the wrong approach, here. I think that "the fake Emmy," more than anything, feels lonely.

She doesn't even have her own identity as an individual; she has to "borrow" your name and be in places that you *could* be -within reason- but not while you're there. This brings us to another of lady-glow's salient questions: "Have your parents given a name to their daughter after learning of her existence?" Perhaps it would be good for your whole family to sit down and try to talk to her. As several family members apparently have parapsychological gifts, they could simply ask her to join you all; now that you all know she is there, there's no reason for her to be shy, nor for her to hide.

While it is reasonable to fear the unknown, your concern that "I am afraid she is not who we assume her to be" is not justified by the details you have provided here. She has had ample opportunity to scare, assault, and bewilder your family members, yet she has done *only* the third of these. She attended your young cousin's birthday party, for goodness' sake! That's not an evil entity, merely a lonely one.

Please, let us know how you are proceeding with this unusual circumstance.

Sleeping-with-steve (8 stories) (533 posts)
3 years ago (2019-07-24)
Hello SunshineEmilia,

I'm so sorry to hear you lost your twin sister at birth. Your poor mum must be devasated, especially considering the doctors didn't tell her at the time.

Your twin is obviously in between here and the after life. As Lady-Glow says, 'Perhaps it's time to ask for religious help or try to cleanse, bless, and shield the house.

One of YGS's members ROOKDYGIN has a cleansing ritual on his profile page. I use it every fortnight. Not only is my home really clean, but it's also fragrant too from the sandlewood and sage.

Here's Rookdygin's profile page:


Please keep us posted on what happens.

Your twin obviously needs comforting and is trying to tell you something. Maybe ask her what she wants. πŸ˜•

Best wishes,
😘 ❀ 😘
lady-glow (13 stories) (2930 posts)
3 years ago (2019-07-24)
Emilia - welcome to YGS.
In my opinion, what your mother experienced was not stillbirth but a vanishing twin. Regardless, I imagine it was shocking for the family to learn that they had lost a baby.

For what you say, this spirit has aged in parallel to you. Does she mimic your clothes too?

It seems like she has been a constant presence over the years but, to be honest, there's something I don't understand about your story, IF "Many in my family have the gift to see those on the other side", have they the ability to discern when they are seeing 'the other you'?

"there's a girl and she has your name and your face with long black hair"
Does this mean that your niece has talked to the spirit?
Have your parents given a name to their daughter after learning of her existence?
Perhaps acknowledging like an untimely lost member of the family could help her to find peace.

Based on your narrative, it doesn't seem like your twin means any harm to anyone but, have anyone tried to communicate with her and help her to either cross over or to understand the reasons that are holding her to this plane?

"things follow and feed off of members of my family and their energy."

If sensitivity to the paranormal runs in the family and they are aware of it, have anyone felt curious about learning ways to protect themselves and their mΓ©nage?

Knowledge is power. I don't share the opinion of not investigating what these 'many spirits in your house' might be or might want as long as no one interacts with them, but if they are draining the energy of the living, some measures should have been taken a long time ago.

Perhaps is time to ask for religious help or try to cleanse/bless/shield the house and protect its inhabitants.

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