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A Fresh Start? Not Exactly


Carrying on from my previous stories. We moved to a house my Dad had renovated. It had previously been a shell of a 2 up 2 down but my Dad converted it to a 3 bedroom home for us.

It was built around 1900 and was a classic Sandstone terraced house - a beautiful building if truth be known. We moved in less than a year after the loss of both my mum's parents (within 7 days of each other) and my dad's father. All three died within months of each other.

For around 6 months all was quiet. It was a large house with a sitting room to the front which we only ever used for special occasions, a living room/dining room to the back with a kitchen extension. We had a split level staircase which led to a large landing. Off to the left was a large double room which my sister and myself shared; to the right, a small boxroom which was used by family visitors and my parents' large double bedroom. There was also a long corridor running from the boxroom at the front to the bathroom at the back of the house. When the bathroom door was closed, that corridor used to give me the chills as very little light would penetrate that far.

It was a bright spring day and I went up the stair to use the toilet, doing my usual thing of running along the corridor when reaching the top landing. I've done my thing and left the bathroom to venture more slowly back down the hall toward the stairs when I stopped in my tracks! I was about halfway down this corridor and could see on the wall facing me (outside wall of my parents' room) what looked like a shadow moving slowly up the stair. I edged further up the hall and nothing was coming up the stair that would explain this. I can only describe it as stick figure like, or at least extremely skinny. It appeared to have what looked like the head of an animal with horns (I even then edged away from stating it was a goat head but that's what it most resembled), though the horns seemed to be protruding from the back of its head or at least pointing backward rather than up or forward. It's body was slightly hunched and its arms and hands were long wily and bony. The legs of this shadow I remember were again animalistic, like the hinds of a goat, though I remember it having feet rather than hooves which again were extremely long and bony.

As I stopped, it froze against the wall. I looked again to the stair but nobody or thing was there. As I moved, it moved closer to the landing at the top of the stair. I stopped, took a deep breath and took a run toward the stair and bolted back to the living room where I told my mum about what I'd seen. Neither of my parents believed me, my sister too was sceptical but she later admitted to seeing the same thing one night when she got up to go to the toilet, this time standing as though facing her standing on the flat of the landing.

The rest of our time there I never actually saw anything but cupboard doors would open for no reason in the bedroom, wardrobe doors would stick, only to open easily seconds later. Noises would be heard in the bedroom, like the cupboard door being opened and closed.

We moved from that house after a couple of years to a new build in another town and the feeling in that house was very different. It felt new, no history, no demons...until.

One night when I was around 11 or 12 I was going to my bed. I walked up the hall, turned to my room to open the door and there, sat on my bed was this very same stick figure. It turned as though to look at me and made to stand up. Upon hearing my muffled yelp, my sister shot out of her room to ask what was wrong. Then she herself noticed the same thing stand up from my bed and move very slowly and purposefully away towards my wardrobe. Both my parents came up the hall to see what was going on and were again sceptical when I told them what I'd seen. Once my sister told them that she'd seen it too they then took it more seriously but ultimately nothing was done.

Thankfully nothing more occurred in that house of a supernatural nature for the remaining 8 years we were in there.

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Haunting_Marie13 (1 stories) (15 posts)
9 years ago (2015-09-18)
I would've cried and screamed my head off. I've heard of creatures like these, but can't remember what the name for them is. Thanks for sharing. I really enjoyed hearing your experience.
babygoatpuller (4 stories) (432 posts)
9 years ago (2015-09-15)
AlienDewd- Never be afraid of a goat. (unless a buck is coming up behind you with his head down!) 😆 They're wonderful little "people" and wouldn't hurt a soul. 😊
RedWolf (31 stories) (1292 posts)
9 years ago (2015-09-14)

I don't think this entity meant you no harm. I think the only reason you feared it was because of it's odd looks and imposing size.
As I read your story and comments I got no sense of danger from this entity. I think it used your wardrobe to get back and forth between dimentions. As it stuck for a few seconds it may have been in there to come into our dimention then changed his mind and went back to his and didn't want you to see what it looked like or frighten you by letting you see him just disappear. I hope this makes sense to you.
I remember when I was 3 or so I would go in my mothers room and talk to a Native American Brave that was in her closet. She would come in and ask who I was talking to and I would tell her my friend the Indian. She was 27 or so and a non believer at the time so she would drag me out of her room telling me that there was no such things as ghosts. That's why your parents didn't believe you or your sister, they didn't see it so it didn't exist.
Well you can't see air but it exists. I think that is one of my biggest peeve that I have with non believers.
Carecrow (5 posts)
9 years ago (2015-09-13)
Hey cool story---weren't you the guy who ran up the hall and down the stairs? Maybe it was the goat watching. Getting a visual probably eased the tension.
Bibliothecarius (9 stories) (1091 posts)
9 years ago (2015-09-12)
A note to WillowWaly:

My laptop froze up last night! WillowWaly, our messages were typed at the same time! When I'd posted mine, Then added the first correction in a second message, I read yours, and wanted to corroborate your points. I agree with your assessment, but think everyone would benefit from the clarification that nearly two centuries passed between Milton's writing as a fanatical political apologist for Cromwell's Puritan Interregnum, and the Romantic era, when people started to see his depiction of Satan as heroic. Milton included all of the traits of a reprehensible, irredeemable sinner into his Satan: One who questions authority, one who argues his points, one capable of persuading others, etc. All the things that the later ROMANTIC movement thought were laudable.
rookdygin (24 stories) (4458 posts)
9 years ago (2015-09-12)
I am jumping on the 'non-demonic' 'non-devil' boat here.

Maybe its becasue I have just re-watched Pan's Labrinth or becasue NOTHING in your experience (s) make this 'shadow' sound negative or evil. Sounds more like a nature spirit or perhaps elemental to me.

It does however sound as if it may have been attached to something that was brought into yuor home just before you saw 'it' the first time and that was purhaps removed just after you saw it the last time... Or maybe as you aged your ability to 'see' was effected.

Thanks for sharing.


WillowWaly (2 stories) (97 posts)
9 years ago (2015-09-11)
Guys, I don't want to trot out my credentials (I do have them). I know the folklore. My point is not that I haven't heard of it, but that I just don't buy it.
Bibliothecarius (9 stories) (1091 posts)
9 years ago (2015-09-11)
Damn it! I HATE editing on-screen! "Throughout human history, GOATS have been..."
Bibliothecarius (9 stories) (1091 posts)
9 years ago (2015-09-11)
Greetings, Aliendewd.

I'm posting a response to WillowWaly's question, "What did goats ever do wrong, anyway?"

Throughout human history, have been associated with the Billy Goats' hyper-stimulated sex drive every spring (Rams also fall into this category). Thus, the Goat became a symbol for lust in the Greek mythology, as the Satyr. That's all well and good for the Greeks (then the Romans who hijacked the Greeks' religion & renamed all the Gods). Once Christianity started to codify the rules that "Saint" Paul [really, Saul the former Pharisee and son of a Pharisee, who experienced a Divine Revelation to stop persecuting Christians (though he would later claim that his mother and sister were Christian converts before he was) who was heavily influenced both by his education in the Stoic School of philosophy and by his dual Jewish/Roman identity] and his followers created in the 300 years after the crucifixion of Yeshua Ben Yosef, and the man HE appointed to be the leader, Simon called 'Peter' or 'Petrus' (The Rock). Yes, The teachings of Simon, whom "Jesus" nicknamed "Rock" (given the surviving accounts, one presumes for his thick-headedness as much as his stalwart, dependable friendship) were countermanded by a convert to Christianity who was steeped in the philosophies of ancient Greece. I often wonder if the Vatican's claims to having the tomb of St. Peter under the basilica are because they're worried that he'll somehow escape and point out where Christianity has gone wrong. (The new Pope, Francis, seems intent upon using his authority for the benefit of the poor, the needy, and the desperate: perhaps Catholicism can be realigned with the teachings of Yeshua Ben Yosef, after all...) 😁

So, after the Pauline (yes, that's the adjective form of St. Paul) converts decided to add a Devil to the Bible (a Persian idea, really, muddled up with the Ancient Greek "Hades"), he was depicted as an angel without God's blessing, so he was black (yes, this was derived from racist paranoia about africa: Devils didn't become red until the discovery of the Americas and "Red Men" there) and, to make sure that everyone got the message, the image of the Satyr (which sounds a lot like "Satan" -really Sathaan, the new "Devil" figure they'd incorporated- to the general public) was ALSO co-opted.

Christians associated goats, and their lechery, with practices of witchcraft because of the bias against the Greco-Roman pantheon (as opposed to, say, their association with feta cheese).

Goat (the omnivorous, lactating ungulates which formed that basis of much of the development of the fertile crescent and mankind's evolution into a civilization) became an embodiment of Evil Inclinations, Wicked Debauchery, and Lustful Desires. Any culture with the sense to respect the goat as a useful creature (Anglo-Saxons, the Norse, Celts, etc.) must be inherently evil and it follows that the enlightened Christians must go out and teach them the error of their ways: through violence if necessary.

Horned Gods, Thor's chariot team of Goats, etc., were not treated as evil for millennia by hundreds of thousands of people in the history of civilisation; however, thanks to a Christian misconception that Satyrs and Satan must be similar, they've become a source of supernatural speculation and fear.

A_A (1 stories) (37 posts)
9 years ago (2015-09-11)
In the middle ages, artists who wanted to depict demons had very few details from the bible as how they'd appear, so they conjured images from other older traditions that had already decided what demons looked like.
Most common depictions were of demonization of the pagan deities, most common Pan, God of all. With such imagery as hindquarters, legs, and horns of a goat, in the same manner as a faun or satyr, with the torso of a human. This demonization was most likely conducted by the Christians to popularize Christianity and demoralize Paganism.

In later centuries this depiction evolved to a more human figure-after the French and American revolutions-to a more Apollo like figure. "By the 18th century, he's ennobled, almost looking like an Apollo," Barryte says - as seen in Thomas Stothard's "Satan Summoning His Legions," from 1790. "People interpreted the figure less as demonic creature and more as heroic rebel against the oppression of the paternal god," Barryte says. These renderings were also influenced by John Milton's Paradise Lost, which drew Satan as an almost pitiable tragic hero.

In the 19th century, the publication of Goethe's Mephistopholes in Faust and Mark Twain's Mysterious Stranger influenced artists to portray Satan as much more of "a sly, cunning, dandyish type of figure," as Barryte says. "Instead of scaring people into sin and intimidating them, he now uses persuasion." And he has to look appropriate for the part: more weasely than bestial. This trickster side of Satan is seen in a bronze statue depicting him as Mephistopholes, by the artist Ude.

While the image of Satan as a red, winged, horned figure persists in today's popular imagination, contemporary artists have bestowed the devil with the most human likenesses to date.

In Jerome Witkin's 1978 painting "The Devil as Tailor," Satan portrayed not as a standard devil at all, but as an ordinary-looking person sewing uniforms for the Nazis during World War II. "Hanging around him in lurid lighting are SS uniforms, prisoner uniforms," Barryte says. "The devil has become us, in a way, he's less personified as some evil creature. It's the human who creates hell on Earth." Curator Bernard Barryte.
Different viewpoints on the image of Satan throughout the ages are dependent of the time frame and human culture.
WillowWaly (2 stories) (97 posts)
9 years ago (2015-09-11)
xxxal3xxx said, 'Goat shaped or horned aparitions are mostly related to demonic entities or so everyone would assume.'

Please don't say 'everyone.' I wouldn't assume that. I don't buy a debased post-medieval Western Christian mythological assumption about the demonic nature of anything. What did goats ever do wrong, anyway?
samtillie (5 stories) (242 posts)
9 years ago (2015-09-11)
Tweed, haha your reply to my comment made me laugh. But in all honesty credit where credit is due. You were karma voted down, that's just shocking. I suppose people can't please everyone on here. I think we all have our turns 😉
If it helps I always try to vote for myself, but it never works haha.
valkricry (49 stories) (3273 posts) mod
9 years ago (2015-09-11)
From your description of the horns, I'm leaning more towards Ram than goat. In many cultures the Ram is thought to be a very good thing. Google Ram symbolism and you'll see what I mean. In this instance (yours) he seems more of a guardian then anything else.
TRUCK (25 posts)
9 years ago (2015-09-11)
Just out of curiosity was there any furniture (old or antique) that you took from one house to the other? Some believe spirits can attach themselves to objects.
Tweed (35 stories) (2501 posts)
9 years ago (2015-09-11)
Aww thanks Samtillie. Must admit I'm laughing it up at your kind words right now because I think I was karma downvoted a bit over night. I'm used to this, it happens a lot and always amuses me. I hazard a guess it's nice comments like yours that keep the downvotes rolling in!
I have an oblique sense of humour. 😆
samtillie (5 stories) (242 posts)
9 years ago (2015-09-11)
Hi, I live your stories. This one intially frightened me but after reading the comments I agree. Awaiting your next submission! 😁
Tweed I must congratulate you on your comments. I always look for them. I feel you are one of the "trusted" on here, with the likes of Rook, Miracles, Redwolf and many others. I appreciate you all greatly, I know where to come if I need help.
xxxal3xxx (1 posts)
9 years ago (2015-09-11)
Aliendewd your story is interesting and also your name. About your story... It seems as if this entity is not malignant. Goat shaped or horned aparitions are mostly related to demonic entities or so everyone would assume. In the other hand if it would have been the case it would have already done something to harm you and/or your sister; but since it just stands and looks at you without intending on coming towards you my opinion is... This creature is watching you as if it were told for you not to leave its sight! I'll try to explain, one reason is because like you said you were headed upstairs by YOURSELF and when headed back you took a bit longer to go back down and that's when it appeard... Another is the last time it was waiting on your bed and when you opened your door and saw it IT acknoledged your presence back got up and went back to its lare wich would be your wordrobe. This is my opinion about your story and I can't garantee that's the reason for your encounters but keep an open mind and remember nothings impossible! And about your name... Have you had any extraterrestrial experiences?
Tweed (35 stories) (2501 posts)
9 years ago (2015-09-10)
AlienDewd, despite social conditioning of Goat type figures representing 'evil', I think this being was protective. I could be totally wrong, but look at the details, it just stands there and backs away. Particularly in the new home, it was sat on your bed, as if to wait for you, then it backed off.

As a side note I think people have a tendency place too much importance on house history. While it's important it's not always relevant. It seems like this is one such instance, where a person, presumably you, was the common denominator.

I've seen a goat/horned type figure a few times throughout my adult life. The legs sound the same as how you described. I don't know if it's the same kind of entity you've seen but it gives off a very serene vibe.

Did you see any details in the apparition or was it too shadow like?

Thanks for sharing, bit surprised to read about a horned figure!

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