Ghost stories comments: Page 3

Zander: I'm glad that you enjoyed my account. It is a small world that your father,& grandfather were attorneys around that same time. Wow!
If I had known then what I know now about Bill I would have looked them up, & asked them to put Bill so far back in a cell, they would've had to pipe him sunlight.
Of course, I didn't know then what I learned later. Oh, well. The 'important' thing is I did learn, & had some assistance from the paranormal realm. Help can come from the most unexpected of sources.
Wouldn't you agree? Thanks for reading, & commenting!

The Very Best 😁 😁

Thank you guys for reading my story.

You guys probably right. I maybe high during that time. That other 'me' maybe friendly, he harmless though. He was just sitting and doing nothing.

Appreciate you guys!

That's amazing! My grandmother was born with the veil as well. I believe they call it a "caul" and it's prized by sailors as providing protection at sea, of all things. Thank you for another great story!

I'm really enjoying reading your stories. My father and grandfather would have both been attorneys in Columbus when you were passing through. My grandfather was also mayor of Columbus for a time in the 40s. The then mayor had died in office and as Head of City Council, he had to fill in. He didn't win re-election but he really shook things up! Smashed some slot machines with sledge hammers because he said gambling hurt families. Looking forward to reading more of your writing! Glad your story had a happy ending!

I used to live in Dorcas in the 70s as a child.
I just happened to do a search for it on Google to see if I could find out anything about it and up popped your story!

What was your other self doing, apart from sitting at your kitchen table? Was it looking back at you or just staring into space?

From what I gather it seems to be a very helpful entity, probably just wanted you to join in for some breakfast before you head of.

Sudabi777, Very interesting encounter. However, I can sympathize with your reaction. I, too, would freak out. I feel that 'one' of me in this world is more than 'enough',lol! Trying to inject a little levity here to calm you down a bit.
Many people have seen their Doppelgangers. However, most subscribe to a parallel universe for an explanation. I'm open-minded so that 'could' be a possibility. Yet, like L.V. Mentioned, you had just been drinking. So don't rule that out as a possibility either. I hope I'm not offending you. I'm merely throwing out some theories that you may want to consider. I've no doubt you saw something that alarmed you, but just consider what we've offered to you. If that happens again-I hope it doesn't for your sake-please let us know about it. Interesting read!

Take Care!
🤔 😊

Hello sudabi777, interesting experience, thanks for sharing it!

My overall feeling is that this encounter was nothing of any concern. You had never mentioned whether you've had anything like this happen to you before, so if this is a one time occurrence with nothing else preceding it, you don't need to worry.

You may have witnessed a time slip of sorts, not all so called doppelgänger sightings are just that, some see an event in the past or future as it were. Was your motorcycle actually running when you went to check on it? Was the 'other you' looking at you or oblivious to your presence? Perfume can tend to linger, so I'm not sure about that. You had mentioned drinking earlier in the evening, and that could have some influence on the events, but you also seemed extremely aware of your surroundings during this time as well. You had mentioned it being around 3AM which seems to be a prime time for the supernatural for various reasons.

The mind can tend to panic when it experiences something outside its known environment and comfort zone, and that can generate fear, not necessarily the situation itself.

I don't doubt that you experienced something out of the ordinary, but I don't feel you were in any danger or that it was a warning. On the contrary, I feel you were witness to something extraordinary, and I do also understand your reactions. From your other story, you seem to have a sensitivity to the paranormal.

Hopefully it helps add a different perspective, good luck!

Hello old-dude, good to see you still check in now and then. Your stories are some my favorites, especially the ones revolving around the Texas Road. That night you and your friends tried to get a photo of the alter stone and your experience on Boblo Island are my favorites.

I too am intrigued by the ghost horse and the other mysterious circumstances surrounding the Texas Road and that whole area. There is a lot out there about it, but it's nice to get the perspective of someone who was actually there and grew up in that general area

I know you have checked in with updates of the area now and then in the comments of your stories and it's been awhile, but if there are any other stories you have to share regarding the ghost horse and that whole area around the Texas Road, I'd really enjoy hearing about it!

Thanks again for sharing your incredible encounters!

Hi Roshhh, I certainly get your point regarding the family as they wanted you to concentrate on your board exams and this is why they must have told you to forget about this incident. I am also from India so I know what your parents must have told you.

The land must be haunted and that's why it was deserted. Still, I hope you are now in good health and did your best in your board exams.

If it had a beating heart and walked this earth, I believe they can show themselves from the spirit realm. Many people have seen their passed dogs, cats, elephants, many different encounters. A Panther would be an amazing sight but not near my feet. I always wondered if deer hunters are followed by their kills only since I trapped and killed and then seen dead mice running in my home.

Lady-glow, Rajine, & Lisa: I am glad that you all enjoyed the account.
That's right. Wisdom comes for the lessons learned the 'hard way'.
I believe that we've 'all' been down 'that' road once, or twice.
Lisa, I'm glad that you don't mind the length of the narrative.
Thank you all for reading!

All the Best! 😁 😁

I really enjoy reading your stories. The longer, the better, no need to apologize for the length! Please continue to write. 😁

Yes it's best just to forget about that place and move on, I wonder if there's anyone living in that house now...

Hi SashB

That is very true, faith is important, very few people are lucky enough to be spiritually gifted, I think you should focus on it as well.

Hi GingerRead

It's always good to rule out the rational before going the supernatural route, only when something cannot be explained with logic and rationality then you can go onto the impossible.

Hi Dindin

That is actually quite fascinating, it would be really interesting if you shared a few of your UFO encounters. It's great that the clicking has stopped.

Ouija boards are not the safest, and a lot of people learned that the hard way, but I understand that it was a trend back in the day, what you experienced as a kid is very strange, mostly spirits take on a human form.

Hi Linjahaha

It's amazing how time puts things into perspective, the more you look back at it.

The signs were there from the very beginning, I think even that old dilapidated vehicles fuel tank falling apart was the first sign that you should turn back, it is coincidence that it just so happened to fall apart at that exact moment. But I'm glad that everything worked out for you in the end, I do believe that we all have a guardian angel out there looking out for us.

Welcome to YGS.

Hi Garm99.

In my opinion, it is hard to say what exactly the panther was. After reading your account I think you were fully awake as to consider this vision a nightmare, on the other hand, if the house had been haunted, more activity would have been expected.

It is said that improper use of the Ouija board can open portals to the spirit world, I hope your grandmother and her friend closed the sessions before putting the boards away. Otherwise I don't think your innocent playing of spelling words would be considered as opening a new OB session.

This may be a long shot but, have you considered the possibility of seen your spirit animal that night? Though scary, this wouldn't be a bad thing.

Thanks for sharing.

Hi Linjahaha.

Definitively there're people looking for you not only in the physical world, but in the spirit world too.

Who hasn't taken any wrong decisions during their youth? At the end, these wrong decisions are lessons in life.

Thanks for sharing this interesting and fascinating experience.

The reason the activity has recently begun in earnest, I would imagine, is due to your 12 year old child just hitting adolescence. At that age and time in life, spirit energies can use their turbulence like a "battery" source. How is the 12 year old doing? That might be my first concern. What is the history of the home itself? Is there by chance an old man in your village who is a bit of an odd duck but knows the town history and may be a dowser? If you bring him round he should be able to tell you who and what it is and what they want. I'm getting something to do with a well on the property. And some jewelry is coming to mind as well. Some spirit is missing something or concerned about it. Has your husband tried automatic writing or drawing? He may be able to get further information that way. And I'm picking up you can get messages in dreams fairly readily. Just speak out loud what you want to know before you turn in and see what happens. All the best

Hi Dee, I'll look into the video. Alot has changed in the area but I think it is the same area. I'll watch the video and let you know.

MiaG - Thank you!☺ That's crazy you mentioned how my husband and I seem to be with each other. We're actually very close with one another. We both swear, that we could write a book about how we finally ended up together, and wouldn't be surprised if there was a movie made afterwards lol. I love that we have such a good story of us coming together, that makes it feel even more, like it's meant to be. We're each other's best friend, to where we very rarely like to do anything apart. We don't feel the need to escape from each other, like some couples seem to, and love being able to spend as much time together as possible, talking about any & everything. We already know how special what we have together is, and just how rare it is to have apparently. We can't believe we managed to be so lucky, to have what we do, knowing how in other areas of our lives, where we haven't been as lucky. You're not the first person to notice this about us either. I think some seem to be more envious of what we have, wishing they had it too, but it's times like that, that reminds us how rare it is to have what we do. Sorry to keep going on about that though! 😅 I don't want to come off big headed or whatever, about it. It's just that's the one area in my life, that I truly value (aside my children of course), and make sure to appreciate, such an amazing blessing, considering what all I had endured, before getting with my husband now. Even the struggles we've went through, since being with each other, I couldn't imagine having to have went through it all, without him by my side. I too love being able to hear of couples like us, that despite whatever they have went through together, at least they stayed by each other's side, fighting each battle together, and coming out even stronger, on the other side. That's how it's supposed to be. You're supposed to be a team! That 50/50 thing I've heard in a marriage, is something I don't agree with either, as a married couple should BOTH be putting in 100/100 on each side, giving it their all, NOT their half. Now of course there will be times when one may not be able to give 100% of their selves, but that's when the other should help pick up their end, and help them get back to 100% again. Too many couples today, fail to see it that way though. Anyways, I'll stop my rant now lol 😅 I hope you're doing good still?☺ Sending you warm & positive energy!

The Lost Voyage 11 - I'm happy to see another agree to that theory, about that topic seeming to draw attention from the spiritual side. I feel like it doesn't get said enough, how dangerous it can be, to just get caught up in all that stuff etc, to where you're attracting spirits to you. It's a constant struggle for me, to want to benge watch paranormal shows, and talk about that stuff, then having to worry if you drew attention to yourself, while doing so. I think what you said you do, to protect yourself from having this problem, is a very smart idea. I know I should protect myself, when I do things like my Oracle or Tarot readings, so not to have this happen, but didn't really think to do so when wanting to watch paranormal shows etc, or just talk about it. That's a really good idea to start doing though!😄 I hope to hear back from the poster of this soon, as I'd like to know if this could possibly be a reason for the increased activity around their home?

Walt: Just 'had' to put in my 2 cents here. I don't know if you still read this site, but 'this' account is fantastically terrifying.
I, sincerely, hope you're alright now. It's terrible what happened to your Dad. Possibly he was being tormented also. I don't know.
This was an incredible read!

Take care! 😊 😊

Hello Twilight1011,

I'm glad your husband is handling the loss of his mother a little more. The pain never goes and there's no set time frame for adjusting. You also need to look after you. You are being a great supportive wife and giving your husband strength to help him through this sad period, but you too are going through this and hopefully he is just as supportive.

You sound like you have a really strong compatible relationship with each other. That's so lovely to read. It warms my heart knowing that through ups and downs, thick and thin, couples can bond further and get even closer. You are one of the lucky one's.

How uncanny you turned the astrology card in your reading. There's obviously a bigger force at play. The good thing is you're enjoying learning astrology. Don't give up, it's completely worth it once you get the hang of it. Imagine being to use the planets to predict events, and other significant dates in advance.

Hope your both doing better, warm wishes, and positive energy back to you.

Twilight1011 - You bring up a good point as well, regarding how the different ways talking about or watching ghost stories etc, can draw that type of activity to you. Many posters on this site alone mention the eerie feelings they have while trying to put their story into words and submit it.

I myself even posted a story of this very thing happening to me when I was a teen engaging in a lengthy conversation about ghosts and learned first hand what can happen!

Since then I have made sure to protect myself and set appropriate boundaries when reading or commenting on stories on this or any supernatural site, watching any kind of ghost stories AND especially talking about this kind of topic or relaying stories to others. I make it clear, though I'm extremely interested in this topic, it is NOT an open invitation for an experience 😁

That may be something to consider as well MW, it may play a role in the activity picking up after it initially started. Still and all if any new remodeling coincided with the first encounters starting up, there are ways to deal with that as well.

I look forward to hearing if this is the case or not?

The Lost Voyage 11 - I'm glad you mentioned the recent possibility, of any new renovations being done around the house. I forgot that I had wanted to ask about that as well, but unfortunately with constant distractions going on around me (my kid's lol), while I tried to write my first post to this, I forgot that part.😅 But I was thinking the same thing, on whether or not something new was being done around the house, that could possibly be something that the ghost, who might have already been there, didn't agree with, and is trying to let you know? If you have done something new, does the starting & planning time of this project, match with when the activity seemed to pick up?

MW, not sure if this means anything to what you're experiencing, but I've heard when you start to think about the paranormal world more, from talking about it, and starting to be more aware of your surroundings, that you can end up attracting the paranormal side to you, as they see you're more opened to noticing them now. I don't know if that's possibly the case for you, but I thought it was worth mentioning. I know when it comes to my hubby and I, whenever we start to talk more about that stuff, and start watching a lot of paranormal stuff, it seems to increase the activity around us, that normally wasn't as noticeable before. My other theory, has anyone in your home, in this time period you've said it's picked up, brought anything used into the house? Like antiques or something given from a family member etc? My reason for asking this, is because if so, then it's possible whatever was brought into your home, could possibly have some spirit attached to it. If it's a past family member that you knew, it could be them looking over you, as you've said how it doesn't feel bad. But these are just some theories I've thought of. They may not be the case with you, but like I said, I thought it was worth mentioning, incase it could be of help to you. Whatever is in your house though, I think it's best to go with your instinct, so if it doesn't feel like something that means y'all harm, then there's most likely nothing to worry about, in that case. I do want to at least state this as a caution, whatever you decide to do, be careful! Like I had said before, noticing the activity now, and reacting to it etc, can be what draws whatever it is, in more, as you're now giving it the attention it needs, to be able to get stronger etc. I don't say this caution to make it sound like something bad, I'm only mentioning it so you can be aware of this. Listen to your intuition about it, and make sure not to go against whatever your intention is trying to tell you. Welcome to YGS!☺ and I look forward to reading your updates about this. Sending you good vibes 😊

Hello MW, interesting story, thanks for sharing it!

It has been noted that remodeling in and of itself can stir up ghostly activity, usually that of a prior resident.

I understand that you had mentioned you have been working on this home for 9 years now with no activity, that has been something that started recently?

Has the haunting activity coincided with some remodeling/restoration project that just began, ie: maybe getting around to a closet space or bathroom etc that hasn't been touched on prior?

My point being that, whatever resides in the house (assuming it's not someone passing through, like a relative visiting) may have been fine with the remodel up until now, but maybe you started working on a room or a space recently that it doesn't want altered? That would explain why you've heard nothing up until now.

I'd be curious to know, as well as what else might have occurred since you posted this experience!

MiaG - Thank you for giving some helpful information, about how to learn astrology reading etc. I really do appreciate it!☺ I think something is really pushing me lately, to learn how to read and understand astrology stuff. The other day, when I did an Oracle reading for myself, just being opened to any helpful advice etc, that I might need, I got an astrology card, that was pretty much telling me how I should look more into astrology, and learn what all it means, and how the planet alignments can influence us etc. I sat there dropped mouth lol, as I got this card, telling myself that something is obviously trying to get my attention, as it apparently wants me to finally study more into learning astrology stuff, instead of wishing I could understand it.😅 I just thought it was crazy though, considering I've been talking to you about it lately, a lot more, and I've been looking into it more as well, so to get that card at this time, makes it feel more than just a coincidence. But aside astrology talk, we're doing better now, but still have our moments where we're reminded she's no longer with us, to do the thing's that we normally would with her. We're having to push through all the hard moments, as we experience the first full year without her.😞 I'm happy that my husband has seemed to finally make peace with her death now, from how we lost her exactly, so I'm very happy about that for him. I've tried to help him through this, saying how he can't keep holding onto his anger with her leaving us the way she did, as it will do him no good, and how I believe him not being able to forgive her, he could be affecting her on the other side, not being able to fully heal the way she needs as well. It took some time, but he seemed to one day finally understand her side of it, and in doing so, he was able to forgive her. I hope you're doing good as well, as I know you also lost a loved one? Sending you love and good thoughts!

Hi dazybloop

Since you have been there twice and I'm guessing that nothing happened the first time, then I think that it was something that followed you and your boyfriend, maybe a passing spirit perhaps.

Thanks! It's been about 8 years since the clicking. And funnily I have seen UFOs periodically as well.
I haven't had anymore clicking since then. So it's all good.
Thanks for listening. I was a bit worried.

[at] valkricry, understood! Thanks for letting me know, that makes sense.

Hi BravelyKegger.

Maybe you are not aware of the fact that I live on an island named Mauritius. There are a lot of things that are not familiar to other people, but our country is multicultural, we have people of all kinds, Hindus, Muslims, Chinese, Tamil, Marathi, Christians, Catholics... You name it. Let me tell you that our ancestors immigrated here from various countries, Africa, India, Madagascar etc... And each of us respect our culture and religion, I have friends of all religions and we are always united, listen to our national anthem if you have time. For me God is only one, god resides inside each of us so that makes us God? We are all devotees of God, the only difference is that we pray differently. For me, God is only one and we are unaware of the fact that whoever we pray are people blessed with special abilities who did good deeds and sacrificed so many things for us, I'm a Hindu and I pray to God that we have been praying because our culture is like this. I cannot change the fact that I'm a proud Mauritian and respect all religions but people can surely change their mindset! Note that I'm an religious person ans just like I feel negative entities, I do feel positive sometimes after praying. Thank you.

BravelyKegger.

What makes you think this was a demon?
What makes you think that all encounters involve demons?

Why do you advise anyone to pray to Jesus regardless of their faith? And by this I don't mean that I don't believe Jesus Christ wouldn't help anyone calling to him, but probably his wouldn't be the first name coming to the mind and heart of a non Christian person.

Perhaps you should read the comments guidelines of the site, specifically the part that says:

"This site offers discussions on the topic of ghost experiences, with people coming from various cultures, so please avoid proselytizing or preaching, unless the author of a story specifically asks to receive feedback from that religious perspective...It's fine to share what your religion has to offer as a possible explanation, but everyone has their own, they certainly don't come here to be converted, so please, don't push it on others as irrefutable fact."

All of this could stop if you accepted Jesus as your protector and savior. Demons operate on fear and vulnerability, but their power was stripped away at the cross Jesus died on. All authority had been given to Christ once he rose from the dead, and those who have been redeemed by him share in his authority and power. It's honestly laughable how weak and pathetic demons really are when you mention the name Jesus, sadly people do not know who Jesus really is and the security we have in him.

This is an interesting story granpaul, and presumably quite terrifying for your friends. It certainly would be for me. I've heard first hand accounts of the sound of dishes crashing in the kitchen, leading to the discovery of a collection of broken dishes, so this aspect of your story may not be uncommon. But in your case it was sound only. Maybe this is a first, and maybe the absence of the broken dishes signifies something. And is the misspelling of 'hel' yours or was this the way it was written, or smeared to use your word?
And finally, the use of the icing on the cake as a surface to leave a message is remarkable, if not unheard of, at least in my experience in reading about hauntings. Was there a piece of cutlery employed as an instrument, or did the spirit (if that's the word we can use to describe the culprit) appear to use a finger, as we might? And if a finger was used, or no instrument found, then the visitor must have taken a bit of icing back home. And if a finger was used, followed by a little finger licking, where did the icing go? I'm trying to visualize the sequence and consequences of the events. The whole thing is so puzzling.

Hello Ranjine,

Thank you for commenting, I have been to that place like 2 times before and i'm unsure if the place is really haunted or is it an entity that followed us or was already following us? Guess it will remain a mystery because I will definitely not try to contact the entity, I don't even know about its intentions.

Hello lady-glow,

Thank you for your questions. We were on his vehicle which I have always travelled in it with him. And the perfume was definitely not familiar because neither of us have ever smelled it before and upon smelling the perfume, I did feel uncomfortable, not that the perfume wasn't good, but it was different from what i'm used to.

And I have known my boyfriend for years now, I'm unsure if any of my departed loved ones have been present at that time, I don't about his family now...

Assuming that you got the perfume smell (again assuming that fragrance is not familiar to you and no one you know uses it) on your way to the hotel, I'd say that it could be a possibility that whatever it was probably followed your'll, but if not then maybe that hotel room is possibly haunted.

I believe that eventually we all are going to be judged and either rewarded or punished accordingly, I think that gangster is being punished for whatever he's done and isn't able to move on because of it.

I don't think it's weird that you are getting used to it, especially since from what I gather, it's a daily occurance, the wildlife cam is a good idea and if you can, an EVP voice recorder would also help I think.

ellielightfoot,
Since you're new, I'll cut you some slack. First, thanks for actually commenting on the stories before launching into what could be labeled 'spamming' the site about your site 'spooked'. I noticed you have all that info on your profile, which is great! So, instead of 'spamming' the site by regurgitating the same info over and over, try just inviting them to look at your profile if interested in sharing their story with your site. 😊

Hi dazybloop.

Was the aroma of the perfume familiar to you or to your boyfriend?
Were you walking or riding a vehicle?

Not being judgemental but, perhaps a departed loved one, either yours or your boyfriend's, wasn't happy about your romantic date and wouldn't have approved of it in life?

Thanks for sharing.

Welcome to YGS.

In my opinion, more than being in hell, this spirit is earthbound and unable to move on, perhaps due to their earthy beliefs and afraid of whatever might be waiting for them in the next plane of existence.

It sounds like this was/is an intelligent haunting and the spirit might feel some remorse of the bad decisions made during his life.

I imagine it would be too late, at least as your friend is concerned, to perform a blessing or cleansing of the house, though a prayer on behalf of that lost soul may help it find its way to the light.

Thanks for sharing.

granpaul, I'm sorry if that event terribly frightened you, & your friend, but some 'good' came out of it. I am 'not' preaching to you, or anything like that. However, I'm glad that it made you acutely aware that there 'is' a God. There are Angels, too. I know that for a fact. I was saved twice by angels, but 'that' is another story.
Possibly-this is 'just' a theory, mind you-that happened to convert, & maybe even save you down the road. Don't be upset with me, please.
Like I said, I'm just theorizing 'why' something like that 'could' have happened.
Who knows? Just maybe that gangster was trying to let you know about his eternal punishment, & making you aware of what could happen if you keep ignoring God. Just another theory here, but this was a fascinating read. Thank you for posting it!

All the Best! ❤ 😊

Yes, Arturo. There was only one plug for the TV and we did remove it. So, as I previously mentioned there was something or someone in the room with us which wanted to get our attention.

Hi there Kota,

I'm so sorry for your loss, and feel honored to have read your story. Thanks for sharing it.

My name is Ellie, I'm a journalist with a NPR podcast called Spooked. We feature true paranormal stories, told firsthand by those who've experience it. We hope our stories not only resonate emotionally with listeners, but raise bigger, more universal questions, as well as help the storyteller and folks who may have experienced similar things feel less alone.

I hope it's okay, but I wanted to reach out to see if you might be interested in sharing your story on Spooked sometime down the line (doesn't have to be soon, if you're not in a place to). I was really moved by your story and your relationship to your father, by how your feelings progressed through time. As someone with Cherokee ancestry, I also appreciated your fathers connection with the earth and world of spirits.

Anyways, sorry for the long post. Please feel free to reach out with any questions or concerns. My email is ellielightfoot [at] gmail.com, or your can call/text ‪ (346) 471-1233‬. I'd love to set up a time to chat with you, informally, just to get to know each other and explain the process at Spooked.

Thanks for considering it, and again, my sincere condolences for your loss.

Warmly,
Ellie

Hi there Rudraditya,

Thanks for sharing your story on this site, I found it super interesting, but also profoundly disturbing. I can't imagine how scary that must have been. I'm happy to hear that you (hopefully) haven't seen the woman since.

By way of intro, my name is Ellie Lightfoot. I'm a journalist and producer for a public radio show based out of the US called Spooked, which features true, supernatural stories, told firsthand by the people who've experienced them. We hope our stories challenge assumptions, and help those who've experienced similar things feel less alone.

I wanted to reach out to see if you might be interested in sharing your story on Spooked. I think it's an incredibly powerful one, and raises questions about why spirits target the people they do.

If you think you might be interested, please reach out to me directly at ellielightfoot [at] gmail.com or ‪ (346) 471-1233‬ with any questions or concerns. This first conversation can be super informal, just a way to get to know each other, as well as explain our show and how we approach storytelling.

Anyways, thanks for your consideration. Hope to speak soon!

All the best,
Ellie

Hi MPS,

First of all, I'm so sorry for what you went through (or are still going through), it sounds utterly terrifying and disruptive.

My name is Ellie, and I am a journalist and audio producer at Spooked, an NPR podcast which features true, supernatural stories, shared firsthand by people who have experienced them. As producers on Spooked, we take a back seat to the individuals telling their story. Our aim is to approach the paranormal broadly and judgmentally, challenge assumptions, and use it as a way to explore big, human questions. We've also found our stories and storytellers help those going through similar experiences less alone.

I wanted to reach out and see if you might be interested in chatting about possibly sharing your story on Spooked. It's a powerful and important story, and I'd be honored to help you share it.

Please feel free to reach out to me by email at ellielightfoot [at] gmail.com. You can get a sense of our show/listen to past stories at https://spookedpodcast.org/

Thanks for considering it, hope you and your family have found peace now.

All the best,
Ellie

Hello Twilight101,

I'm not a qualified astrologer. I started a 2 year course but gave up half because I thought it was too difficult. Then years later I decided I wanted to understand astrology and know more about all these planets that apparently play a part in our lives and why. Way back as far stone Henge, large stones were formulated into a pattern so that our planet's could be observed. I wanted to know why? I read, and read, and started learning about what each planet meant, then what each 30⁰ house represented, followed by the aspects (how many degrees each placement of the planets are to one another. Finally after many many years, I understand how to interpret a birth chart Just by looking at it, I can see what the planets indicate. Like anything though, our human will over powers most things, therefore astrology is great as a guideline, but we still have the power to control our futures regardless of the planetary positions.

I don't do other people's charts despite knowing enough to be able to, because I'm not qualified. I just do it for my self.

Don't put yourself down. You are a strong person with a great deal of self worth. You can do anything when you have time to do it.

Start with cafe astrology, it's free and a great way to learn. Start by doing your own chart first. Read what the planets mean.

Moon is how we react:
Sun is the character we show others:
Venus represents love:
Mercury is our intellect:
Mars represents motivation/energy:
Jupiter is money/luck:
Saturn is stability/hard work:
Uranus is the unexpected and exciting dynamic.
They are my abbreviations. The planets mean so much more of course.

Then read about the houses. Once you've done that you'll be able to interpret what a planet means in a particular house. For example, Planets in the 10th, (10th house is career and ambition) will reflect career and work.

Planets in the 2nd house, will reflect your financial situation. (2nd house is Finance) 4th house is associated with family and so on.

If Jupiter is in the 2nd house, that could mean an inheritance potentially.

Jupiter in the 6th house could mean lucky with work potentially.

7th house relates to partners and marriage.

I hope I have given you a way to start that is easy to understand.

I hope you and you husband are coping a little better after losing you mother-in-law. We don't ever get over it but time, helps a little.

Enjoy learning about astrology
M.G

Still nothing sinister but I heard the footsteps at 4:30am last night. Very clear, nothing at all other than that. Is it weird that I'm getting used to it? We are thinking of setting up a wildlife cam we have for the garden. I wonder if that will pick anything up?

MiaG - Thank you for sharing all that with me, I really appreciate it ☺ I want to be able to learn astrology, like you've seem to have 😄 It's a lot to take in, and I'm not one that can learn as easy as some 😓 But hopefully someday I'll be able to achieve that goal, and be able to read into astrology like you can. I wish I could send you my husband and my astrology chart, to see if you can help me understand what all it means, for us as a couple. As for the points on this site, I know it's not of importance, but I like to be able to give them, when I'd like to give my thanks, or if I agree with what was said. But you pretty much answered my problem I was having, with understanding why I haven't seem to be able to upvote you in a while, which was me apparently not up voting enough of other's on here. I don't really get on that much, but will try to visit as much as I can, when I'm able to do so. With that said, for the short times I do pop in on here, I'll try to read the latest stories published, and will comment if I can, or if it's something I'm able to help with, but I guess with not much activity from my end, while on here, I'm not giving enough votes to other's, during my pop in visits. Thank you again for letting me know all that though, I really do appreciate it.

So far you and your husband have experienced pleasant things, although the knocking around 3am is a bit suspicious, given that lots of people associate it with evil, but if nothing sinister is happening I think you should just ignore it.

You need not be afraid of these demons friend. All authority in Heaven and on earth was given to Jesus when he rose from the dead. If you accept him into your life, then you will have power over all evil through him. Do not believe the lies movies and television show.

I thought there might be a connection, but it seems too great a time gap to me. Though I'm sure ghosts and spirits do not experience time the same way we do. I have no idea what the connection could be.

MW A medium is a direct way to find who is around and in your space. Nothing worse than a long term out of pocket remodel and then have spirit activity cluttering up your mind and wellbeing. Been there, got the T shirt. Good luck and thanks for sharing.

Lost Voyage: Good to hear from you, too! Glad that you enjoyed the account.
Yeah, it happened a long time ago, & the couple prefer to never see that house again. The landlord would never 'tell' them any of the place's history. I'm sure. Then, again. The landlord may not 'know' it's history. He's stuck with the place, & trying to make a buck off of it. Then again. I don't know for sure. Just hypothesizing here.
It would be interesting to find out 'why' it was haunted in the first place.
My sister is one of the witnesses to the events that took place, & she, gladly signed a deposition to help the couple get out of the lease.
It 'is' a good thing that they got out ASAP before something else happened though. Thanks for reading!

The Best
As Always! 😊 😊

Hi, nice to meet you!

I would say a year or two. Do you think there is a connection?

Many thanks.

Hi. Welcome to YGS, MW. I'm the resident open minded but opinionated grump here. 😁

Question: how much time passed between you visiting the mill to cool down and then the first experience?

Thanks.

Hello Twilight1011,

I think that generally speaking, a Sun sign Leo and Sun sign Scorpio can be a relationship that relies on many factors as you mentioned, however the Moon sign, rising sign, and planet positions also play a huge part. For example: If one partners Venus, Uranus and or Mars are within 10⁰ (which is a conjunction aspect) of their partners Mars, Venus, and Uranus or 120⁰ (which is a trine aspect) that could mean a very dynamic relationship in terms of working well with each other and a definite attraction both ways. It also depends on which house those planets fall into and a few other things but basically, sun signs are just a very small part of the astrology insight.

About the karma points, don't worry. The thought counts, besides I don't mind if I get points or not. I do give karma upvotes to every comment I read though. Feels good to give and it's my system so I know which comments I've read. Lol

Maybe Val can jump in and explain the points. I think... You get to vote a member 4 or 5 times then you have to wait until you use up 15-20 points on other members regardless of how many months go by before voting on the member you've given 4 or 5 points to. You get a certain amount of points for a period of 24 hours before the system says, 'you've exceeded your daily limit. Lady Glow know a little on this because both her and I tried to work out the points system a while back.

Anyway,
Hopefully the moderators can explain it.

Take care,
Hope to chat again soon,

[at] CrimsonTopaz I have actually realised that I am really blessed. I accept that I am spiritual. I am just embracing my life and Love for God in all his golry.

[at] MsTea- Let us not get started with LOadshedding, My area is currently experiencing power outage since Monday night and we not sure when it will be resolved. Yes you are so right in saying that if we all came together we can get answers to many unanswered questions.
I know that God has reached out to me, and I am embracing it. In my next story and a few others to follow you will read how this has happened

Hi everybody. I am sorry for mt late reply as we have not had electricity since Monday. I thank each of you for the comments. I just want to say that I am well thanks
[at] Twilight1011 I just want to say you are not offending me in any way. I am a born Hindu. I was raised very antichrist as Indians in South Africa are that way unfortunately. I however believe and embrace all faiths. I love learning about other cultures and faiths and their practices. I too just like you am actually spiritual. I know that I may sound selfish but as a Hindu it is rather difficult for me to convert but I live Christ and his teachings and way of life. I also believe in the universe and I love looking into the world of Astrology. So yes I am spiritual an I love being this way.

[at] CrimsonTopaz I believe it was someone from another realm yes like my guardian angel. Yes I did see his face and it is really sad that I am a bad artist as I would have drawn a picture of what he looks like. A male mid 30's eraly 40's, caramel skin, more like someone from the middle east curly hair and a glow around him. That is what I saw and I still remember his smile.

MiaG - Thank you! I'll definitely look into what you sent me, and I really appreciate you helping me with it!☺ I do want to say that like you, I don't read these thing's believing that it's fully accurate, and what it says, is how it will be etc. I read them for helpful insight, but to a reasonable point. My husband and my zodiac sign, are said to not be good together, but we didn't take that to be the truth for us though. Which is why we were very happy to come across some information, saying how well we could be together, if we set aside our differences, and listened, as well as respect one another etc. Granted I believe that's every relationship though, as it takes both people to work together, and set aside their differences, putting in the work, to be a happy, healthy couple.😄 I didn't want you to think that I'm one who believes anything I read or hear, and think that there's no changing it, or other way about it etc. On a different note, I wanted to bring up how for some reason, I haven't been able to upvote you, I'd say for the past so many months now. 😕 I don't understand why, when normally after you've voted so much for someone, it has you wait however long, before you can vote for them again, but it's been awhile now, where it hasn't allowed me to do so for you, and I don't understand why it's taking as long as it is. Which I believe we're given like 3 or so time's, where we can upvote someone, before you have to wait to do so again, but I don't even think I really got to vote no more than 1 time for you, before it blocked me from it. Anyways, I just wanted to mention that, so you know that I would if I could lol

I'm glad that's sorted, from what you have written, whatever that was, followed you home, perhaps a wandering spirit, or something that was lurking around the abandoned hospital?

Hello Linjahaha, what a fascinating account, I'm glad you shared it.

Despite what they suffered through, at least this couple stuck together and had the common sense to vacate the place. So many stories on here (yours excluded) reflect one half of a couple experiencing paranormal goings on and the other person, whether they have experiences or not, deny anything going on, which is maddening for their partner. The fact that Bob spoke up first was impressive as it's usually the male in the aforementioned cases (though not always) that is skeptical.

I'm also glad to hear that they were able to successfully get out of their lease. They called the landlord out, he knew full well what was going on there, I firmly agree with that assessment. Some don't always take care of the normal stuff they are supposed to, leaks, repairs, etc, so it's not surprising they won't attend to the paranormal stuff either. There are those that just want to collect their money despite everything.

As an aside, not all landlords are bad of course, but when they are in the wrong and you call them on it legally they do back down. I've had one in the past I had to deal with in a somewhat similar manner to your sister's friends, but it didn't involve anything paranormal, however they did drop it, once I called them out on it.

I know there's no way to confirm it, but I can't help but be curious if the place in your story still exists and whether anyone (living) inhabits it 😁

Good to hear from you again!

RCRuskin
My family is very protective when it's come to their children.
The reason they hid "something" from me is because they didn't want me think about that "thing" anymore and loose my concentration towards studies.
As I said I was preparing for my boards exams that time (consider to be a turning point) and they probably didn't want me to get distracted anymore. Atleast that's what I think

RC, & Rajine: Far as I know, when my sister's friend, & her husband left they 'never' went back. Her husband would drive 'by' the street on his way to work, but would 'not' go down it. They just preferred to leave sleeping dogs lie. I can't say that I blame them.
I know the street that the house sits on, but I've never actually been there so there's no way of knowing if the house is 'still' there or if someone is even living in it.
My late husband, & I 'never' went back to the haunted house that we had to endure for 4 years. We wouldn't even go 'near' the street. I don't go anywhere near it to this day. I can fully understand how that couple feels. I completely understand. Thank you for reading!

Take care! 😁 😁

I agree with [at] linjahaha, do you remember when exactly and for how long you have experienced this clicking sound? From what you have written,you've been experiencing this for years now, so I was wondering for how long.

But on the lighter side of things, if it's not supernatural and it sounds metallic, what if perhaps aliens are involved 😅🤦🏻 (just a joke)

It's always the beautiful houses going for next to nothing prices that are always haunted, sometimes it's friendly and caring spirits, sometimes it's malevolent horrid entities 🤦🏻 I'm glad that everything worked out in the end and no one was hurt badly.

Hi lady-glow

Thanks for reading, now when I look back in retrospect, it makes sense when you say that it could have been my grandad, I've also read about three three knocks across all cultures, I'm glad in this case it wasn't anything malevolent.

[at] Amchi1986

I don't think that particular incident that happened to me twice was evil, but as a previous commentor wrote, the three knocks were a warning for him and his family, so I think each individual experiences are different.

Hi nacpat88

The times were different, same year but months apart, the first one being in July and the second, if memory serves me correctly was around October.

And no, no one else's door was near enough, this knocking was literally 4 steps away from me at my door.

[at] Enlighten1959

Sorry for the very, very late reply 🤦🏻, I heard the knocks after my grandfather passed away, and at that time, nothing bad happened and no one else had passed away for a couple of years.

Hi Different444

From what I've read on this site and other sources, I've come to the conclusion that, physically, mentally and emotionally "weaker" people (for lack of a better term, apologies if I've offended anybody) tend to attract a lot more supernatural activity, I think fear plays a huge part on what chooses to reveal itself, because certain entities feed of people's fears.

I've also read in one of your comments about hearing 3 knocks on your door, I've also experienced the same thing years ago and have posted my story on here, the first time it happened was about a few days after my grandfather passed away.

Hello Twilight1011,

Cafe astrology has just about every chart you need for free.

A basic compatibility report will tell you what you are looking for. Here's the link.

Https://astro.cafeastrology.com/astro.php?page=comp2f

You and your other half are compatible regardless of what astrology says, and yes it's fun to read. Like anything similar, I always read from that site, but never wait for things to happen as per what astrology says. Sometimes things go a different path.

Enjoy reading.
Miandra

16 years old is "too young"? What the beep?

I do not believe it is in anyone's best interest to withhold necessary information. Though it does have to be given in a way that the student can understand.

Always annoys me when, in those haunted house hunter shows, the investigator taunts the ghost. Yeah. You don't have to live with the consequences <censored>hole.

I'm curious to know more, but this was all so long ago, and your relatives so wisely chose to move out...

Hi,

I came across your story and I'd love to use it in a book I'm writing. The story would be completely re-written in my own style, but the main elements would remain the same. The book will be published in March 2025 and it is a collection of folklore and scary stories.

The reason I am emailing is to request your permission. If this is something you are agreeable to, please let me know.

Many thanks and best wishes

Sarah
The Whispering Woods Podcast

Hi,

I came across your story, it's a great story and I'd love to use it in a book I'm writing. The story would be completely re-written in my own style, but the main elements would remain the same. The book will be published in March 2025 and it is a collection of folklore and scary stories.

The reason I am emailing is to request your permission. If this is something you are agreeable to, please let me know.

Sarah
The Whispering Woods Podcast

MiaG - Hey, I was wanting to ask you about the relationship compatibility reading part, of the Cafe astrology site you sent me. My husband and I both, have been trying to find a website, that will do this for free. The Cafe website has you pay to receive this information, but will say how you can read it yourself, by somehow reading both birth charts, and putting it together or something, it was very confusing to understand how to do that.😅 We're wanting to find out this info, because I'm a Scorpio, and he's a Leo. Apparently our signs are said not to be good together lol but from what I've read, it's not unheard of, for these 2 signs to work. It has said, if we were one of the rare couples, that can work good together in a relationship, despite the differences they each have, that makes it so difficult for these 2 to do well with one another, then they can be a very powerful couple. Which we both feel we are the best version of our selves, since we've been together. We're just very curious at this point, to know what something like this, would say about us as a couple, as the birth info, and the daily horoscope readings it gives, seems to be pretty accurate for the most part. It's made us curious to know, what it'll say about us, with it applying the birth chart info. Anyways, I'm not trying to make another lengthy message lol, but wanted to ask you about this, in hopes that you'll be able to help me find where I can get this information for free.😄 Hope you're doing good? And I'm grateful for any help you can give on this ☺ 😉

rossh: This is a very frightening narrative. I'm glad that you are alright now, & have relocated.
Maybe there was a reason that the road was deserted. Not to mention the hospital. Possibly the very land itself is haunted by something that goes back in it's history. Who knows? However, it would be interesting to find out. Good read!

Take care! 😁 😁

Dindin, Something 'might' have followed you to your new environment.
That is open for debate. However, it's 'good' that you have very strong faith.
You are psychic, & people like us are sometimes like a beacon for spirits. They 'know' they can communicate through people like us.
Perhaps you, like me, can do more research on your ability to learn how to control it. Thereby being able to better deal with what goes on around you. Just some friendly advice. Thanks for the story!

Best Wishes! 😊 😊

[at] rajine Thank you for your insight that is an interesting perspective. Maybe after I saw the first entity, they were like she can see us? And just kept coming lol.

I should add I struggle with mental health since I was very young. I've always had the thought in the back of my mind that they are attracted to me because of that.

Hello Twighlight1011,

Thank you for your reply. I wanted to use my old ID to reply but can't click on the name to get to the profile. I'm sure CrimsonTopaz won't mind me using her thread to respond to you

I'm glad the astrology is keeping you interested. Yeah, I find it very accurate too. Did you get around to doing your free birth chat?

I'm still waiting for my mum to visit so I can write something. Unfortunately she hasn't. I have had a few dreams where she visits. Maybe she's trying and that's how she can make contact until she learns how to make herself visible.

I hope you are well, take care. Miandra

Covid-19 is one of the worst pandemics in recent history, it brought the entire world onto its knees, I thank God all the time that myself and the people I care about managed to survive it, but at the same time feel very sad for the families that have lost loved ones to this virus and are left picking up the pieces.

But I certainly think that your guardian angel was looking out for you, and I think your dad was there as well, maybe it could have been him too looking out for you.

It's a sad reality that in today's world even people who you think is your family will jealous of you for no logical reason.

From what I've read, it seems like you have someone around you that does not like you at all, and I think your parents are trying to warn you, I think you should take some time to reevaluate the people around you and try to find out exactly who's your friend or foe and distance yourself from them.

It is definitely unnerving to have to encounter something like that, while the ghosts in your story definitely look scary and creepy, they don't seem to be doing or acting in a way that makes them seem malevolent, more curious than evil, from what I've read.

To Crimson Topaz & MiaG, I've been trying to pop in more lately, as I hate missing the new submissions on here. 😄 I'm glad to see I've been missed though ☺ I've missed y'all, and a lot of my other favorite people from this site as well. As for how my spiritual journey has been going, I hate to admit that I've allowed myself to not stay on it, as much as I'd like, but I'm trying my best to get back on track with it. It really helps to be more spiritual in life, to where you're no longer allowing all the negative, day to day stuff, to affect you as badly etc. I visit the Cafe astrology site almost everyday now lol, as the daily horoscope alone, is most of the time, on point, so I really love that MiaG told me about it ☺ I apologize to the poster of this, as I didn't mean to take away from your experience. But with the topic being brought up, I am curious to know, with you being from South Africa, what exactly is your belief with all this spiritual stuff? I don't really know much about your religion, or what all y'all believe or not believe etc. So I don't want to accidentally say, or ask something that might be offensive. But from what little I have seen you've say on it so far, it seems like you do believe in the spiritual side? With you submitting what you have already, also makes me believe that you're interested, in understanding the spiritual world as well? I was just curious to know your opinion on this though, but you do not have to answer, if you don't want to get into it on here.

The belief is that when goddess possesses someone, that means they're pure by heart and have a stronger devotion towards that goddess. And because of that, there's always a divine hand over their head, and their call for help is always answered because of their continuous devotion (even though the possession itself is occasional).

Also am not sure how to tag other folks here, but lady_glow, pretty bold go you to question logic on a website for paranormal, which is anything but normal and logical. More than the questions, it's the condescending tone that you can may be avoid?

Have that said, I do believe no human is pure enough in this age and time to have goddess enter their bodies. This also does not necessarily mean your aunt is faking it OP, I have myself witnessed this and even spoken to a few about what exactly happens when they have this experience - and I have concluded that it's the festivities, the loud dhol, the overall environment of certain rituals that involve a certain Bhakti in you so much for few that they think they personify the divinity that's being worshipped. Even us regular folks, sometimes feel a vibration when we are fully indulged in the pooja and Aarti, in a good way. Our brains are capable of doing extraordinary things and the belief of possession is one of them, sometimes manifesting into physical strengths and unusual voices and I think connecting the dots to predict the future and foresee omens (which if you were to decode you will see that the person knows the family and their on-going issues so it's basically their subconscious talking just with 10x the confidence).

And I do believe what you're saying is what you heard OP, I've heard many of such similar stories too. However, may be filter the ones you can logically justify yourself before posting? Just a suggestion.

Hello Twilight1011,

It's really good to see you. How did you go with the astrology links?

Hello SashB,

I think Twiligh1011, covered it all in her explanation so I won't double up. I totally agree with what Twilight 1011 says... 'If you feel it was real, then it probably was'.

I'm sorry for your loss SashB. Remember all the good times with your dad and loved ones you've lost, and over time that sorry will turn to beautiful memories that make you happy

Thanks for sharing this lovely story.

Miandra

Hey, posted a longer message on the Living Enrichment Center 2 story - I grew up going to this church and would be interested to connect with other LEC refugees.

Rad stories - thank you for sharing. I was brought to the building after it was abandoned only once in 2007 - by this guy in my writing class who read aloud his short story about the place as haunted. I realized it was my church and asked him to take me, gave him a tour from memory of every room. It was spooky, but we didn't stay long and I was more focused on nostalgia. I think he was shocked I was running around to every room so in awe - and reading these stories I get why now.

Always were strange vibes out by the cabins, and that one photo you have of the outdoor stretch with many doors - yeah, that was always a creepy area. There was an annex connected by a long outdoor bridge that was off, and the rooms far in the back behind where the restaurant used to be were strange. I remember they did an Easter service back there and I couldn't stop thinking about death - and I was a small kid at that point. Upstairs in the offices I do remember always feeling watched, as my dad would do work there on Saturdays and the energy was tense and fragile - maybe because of the embezzlement, though...

As kids we would skip the service and run around the grounds, and there were areas I got very scared of and avoided even in the daytime. My mom would go to weeknight study and I would run away from the childcare and play around the building at night with my friend, so there were areas at night I also did not go to. It's interesting some people mentioned the woods - I love the forest and am a backpacker as an adult, and didn't realize until just now reading this that I was inexplicably scared of that forest and I don't think I ever ventured in once. There were beautiful trails leading to statues and I went to one once with a youth group, but never, ever would I go alone despite that being all I did on the weekends elsewhere. In trying to remember a reason, all that comes up is that I would immediately feel like I was lost if I went near the forest - so I just always avoided it.

Hey- really appreciated your stories. I grew up going to LEC multiple times a week for my whole young life, my father one of the "kool-aid drinkers" coined by Willamette Week who stayed through to the final few hundred folks. As is common with cults, some people have different experiences than others, so I can only speak to my own. In my family's case, it was disturbing and has affected me for the rest of my life. Some of the message was really beautiful, but much of it was deeply twisted and intent on stabilizing the early threads of big new age money and power.

LEC was no small deal. Mary Manin Morrissey (the founder) testified to the UN parliament for world religions with Arun Gandhi and would regularly travel to meet with the Pope or His Holiness the Dalai Lama. Many of the names Oprah eventually "discovered" was there long beforehand... Marianne Williamson was there regularly for workshops and as you may know is a contemporary presidential candidate. The creators of "The Secret" were there often giving sermons, and we had connections to other new age cults at that time that are now getting documentaries. It was an original space for "manifesting," working with attraction theory and metaphysics, and spiritual appropriation/colonization en masse long before that became the trend of today. It depended on which side groups you got into as to what you saw or experienced there. My father had us holding our hands over our food at dinner to "rearrange the molecular structure," for example, and would shout Mary quotes at us for discipline.

The financial embezzlement was the second largest in Oregon's history after Raj Neesh/Osho, and to this day Mary and her family keep Wikipedia and online stuff highly monitored so they can keep scamming. You can look up her as Mary Manin and her son, Mat Boggs.

Abranch2212 - if you ever see this, am wondering if we knew eachother. I don't meet many LEC refugees but I've met a few. Would be interesting to swap stories.

Theomniscient, I've read similar posts about fevers after seeing spirits, woman with jingling ankles and so on.
It sound like your uncle came into contact with some sort of entity that attached itself to him.
All that matters is that he expelled the black gunk whatever it was before it made him really sick

SashB PS: Did you see his face by any chance? Did you get the feeling he was someone you knew who passed away?
Twilight1011, Good to see again. I hope your new spiritual journey is going well.

SashB, my condolences go out to you on the death of your dad. It's hard dealing with the loss of someone close but more so when it's a parent.
The covid era was a bad time and so many thousands of people lost their lives. I feel for you being in hospital so ill.
I think the doctor who visited you may have been a playful soul who died in that hospital who hasn't passed over to the other side yet. Or like you thought, he may have been your guardian angel. Either way, he brought you good news and good health.

SashB, Most people don't get to see the Lord Jesus, let alone receive a personal message from him. It is not for us to question but to accept and give thanks. Sounds like you've done that.
Not everyone is of the same faith and each to their own. It's not my place to preach or convert people, but I personally have started praying since my mother died. I hope that my prayers will keep both my parents together for all eternity in the Lord's loving arms.
Make the most of your new job, enjoy the benefits and stay happy, healthy and wise.

That was a beautiful story you shared. I am envious of people who have seen Christ in person. Your story reminds me of a news article I read recently. In Gaza it was reports Jesus was appearing to many people. I believe he has not appeared to me due to the fact that I have already been saved and it's unnecessary for him to reveal himself to me in person. With that being said. I am still quite envious haha.