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Hi User3246

Thanks for posting these happenings - I enjoyed reading them. I'm not sure on your knowledge of spirits / ghosts so I don't want to state the blinding obvious so I apologise in advance if these thoughts are a bit: "well...,duh!"

From what I understand / believe, (but not experienced personally) is that when certain individuals pass over, they either don't understand that they are "dead", or they really don't want to leave a certain area, for a wide range of reasons, I imagine.

I'm basing these comments on the assumption (but a widely held belief) that we are spirits expressing ourselves through physical bodies. Spirits with bodies, not bodies with spirits.

So these individuals feel very much "alive" and are kicking around in their house, or yours, for example. Now, what I don't understand very well (or at all to be honest) is what, exactly, our physical plane of matter looks like to those in spirit. I don't believe it looks as it was to them, unless they have built a mental construct of the house in which they are existing.

So these individuals may not understand what's happening when renovations are carried out to "their" house. They may want to express their anger or disapproval by moving objects around or making noises etc. They may be aware of physical humans in the house but I don't know how we appear to them. I've read our physical bodies appear shadowy from a spirits point of view but our spirits are the main visual aspect. Who can say?

I've gone on too long again but the other possibility in your situation is they previous owners / tenants come back occasionally to visit and make a "scene" then depart again to their new existence.

Have you considered talking out loud to the spirit (s) and explain that you are not taking over, and you respect they feel attached to the house but you want to improve things and that they need to accept the changes? Might work. Or you might get an ashtray in the side of your headπŸ˜†.

Anyway, I'm throwing ideas around here, but maybe others can add a different theory or another angle of advice to you.

Peace,

Mack
Hi User3246,

I'm sorry you're still dealing with activity (I recall your last story). Have you and your family ever considered a spiritual house cleansing, and possibly a blessing over the property?

To answer your question, yes, many people believe reno's can cause activity to increase in a home.
Tweed - you've been here long enough to know not to pay attention to the votes. 😊 Questioning it just proves to the KarmaTroll (nod to Lady-glow) that it bothers you. Brush it off, ignore it, don't draw attention to it. 😊
DarriuxDarkk in Strange Hotel Experience
your description of your experience regarding the sensations of heavy feeling, negative, and discomfort somewhat suggests of empathic ability in nature. You may have picked up a strong negative energy on that room.
Hi Tweed!
Thanks for commenting. It's probably possible that heightened alertness might make you feel/experience things that you usually don't. However I didn't feel particulary anxious there and then (at the location itself). It was a private room with a functioning lock for the door in a pretty small hotel. I've stayed in far worse places while travelling and still not experienced anything like that. I have also had some other possibly paranormal things happening to me over the years but nothing as unpleasant as this. That feeling of anger was something else.
Tweed.

There's nothing wrong with your comment... Just KarmaTroll, still sore since who-knows-when, getting a high by down-voting anyone who has hurt their feelings in the past.
And doing so through several of their alter egos (at least five, as far as I'm aware of).
T_L_V_11, Yes, that would be my first mouthful of advise to anyone opened minded enough to want to reconsider their belief systems. Throw away everything you know and start again, especially Darwinian's accidental fluke of nature of which is dying an agonising slow death of a thousand poisoned tips of contradictions... Only a handful of stubborn materialist are hanging onto the concept probably more concerned about their pension fund than re writing the history books. String theory is basically closer and not a bad start.
Hi Unforgiven, hmmm, this part of your response to my question on dreams is super interesting...

("but I have dreamt of future events and people who were yet to be born whom later were born exactly as I dreamt them")

I wrote this part in my first response U/F about this being you saw on that day.

Previous Quote: ("It may also be the case that this individual is preparing itself for it's next life here on earth")

Wow,can you dot the pieces together? You have a gift of seeing people in your dreams of whom are born at a later date? Btw, that's some gift you have. Lol

It's making me lean back to what I stated earlier, this being you saw, although not able to take human form is probably preparing itself for a life here in the earth matrix and it is probably someone who knows you?

The reason I asked these questions on dreams was to try and gauge your soul level of experience.

According to my research and own theory there are three levels of souls in the Earth Matrix.

New, intermediate and old... Most of the people here in the Earth Matrix are new and intermediate souls with a few old ones to give the consciousness of mother Earth a fair balance.

I would say you are an intermediate soul due to your gift. I do theorise the more psychic a person is the more likely hood there higher self finds it harder to contain itself with in the Veil... I did see where you wrote you are a passive person that makes sense to me as well.

To give you a comparison on soul levels, I was told by a Rekei Master I have lived 51 previous lives however I would consider myself an intermediate soul here in the Earth Matrix on the scale of spiritual evolution... Although I would tick all of the questions I put to you of which probably means some off those other lives have been in other dimensions with different types physics.

Of course I may be totally wrong you may have to take it all in with a grain of salt? However, I feel reasonably confident in sharing my thoughts on your account.

Regards!
Unforgiven1, thank you for the additional information about your dreams, of premonitions and of events occurring synonymously as the dream. This dovetails with what I said about the Titanic, people dreaming about the sinking prior to and during the event. Births and deaths carry a lot of emotion and you seem to be sensitive to this level of emotional output. Kind of like an antenna if you will, a focal point. From what you said about your dreams, they all involved relatives and friends, people you knew. This also fits in perfectly with what you observed during your encounter in the parking lot, this being seemed to know you and was excited about it! If it all ties in together it should validate your encounter even more to yourself! It could be someone from your 'past' or 'future', or from the spirit realm, like a relative. As I said before, if they were vibrating at a much higher rate, you wouldn't have been able to see them clearly or distinguish any individual features like their face. It would be like trying to make out the individual blades of a ceiling fan while it's spinning. I have read that people who hear angels, hear them as a high pitched ringing if it's only perceived as auditory, due to the vibration difference between their realm and ours. Again it makes a lot more sense, and I hope it helps! I look forward to hearing more of your stories.
Aussiedaz, 'tis true, I'm reminded of a quote that I learned when I was much younger but its like a mantra to me now, "Everything You Know Is Wrong". I rather enjoy these conversations with you because they stretch my level of understanding of truth. They do create more questions, but they broaden the mystery, which makes me think and explore more. I love the possibilities. To add to what was said regarding these time slips and other universes is the fact that emotion may play some factor in it as well. The magnetic resonance imaging on 9/11, the fiction book Futility written in 1898, detailing a large passenger liner called the Titan, which struck an iceberg and sunk with a massive loss of lives aboard, 14 years before the Titanic. In fact the Titanic had many dreaming of events surrounding her sinking prior to and during the actual event. The same is said of 9/11. I understand Dean Koontz wrote a book detailing a pandemic years ago similar to this one, but I haven't actually researched that one. The books were fiction yet the striking parallel to reality, of events yet to come is remarkable. That would suggest events which involve strong emotions can span what we think of as space and time. Emotions are energy and perhaps enough of it can cause a 'rip' in what we refer to as the space time continuum. Who knows what could come through?
Unforgiven1, I apologize if it seems like I'm hijacking your thread, these theories/conversations are actually possible explanations for what you witnessed. What I mentioned regarding the high level of emotion could be how this 'being' visited you. You stated how excited it seemed to be in interacting with you and in waving, that high a level of emotion may have been what gave it temporary access to our reality as it were. Your strong opposing emotion of fear may have actually cancelled the effect and closed the opening, hence it's sudden disappearance. No way of knowing for sure but fascinating nonetheless, I'm hoping all of this will aid you in better understanding your encounter.
Aussiedaz, always a pleasure, I do look forward to more of these exchanges!
Aussiedaz & the lost voyage: The things you bring up are interesting! It definitely seemed like something very out of place was happening, whether it was a time slip or something like that I don't know. But I should really look into this. Aussiedaz asked me some questions about dreams. I haven't dreamt of being a giant or being a small person (I'm already pretty small in real life, haha) but I have dreamt of future events and people who were yet to be born whom later were born exactly as I dreamt them. I've also dreamt of things happening while they were happening in real time, but not to me. For example, I once was dreaming I was a driver experiencing being in an accident. I was the driver seat and the car was just rolling and rolling. When I awoke I found out that my friend was in a car accident earlier that morning. My friend passed away from his injuries. So I have experienced dreams like that, but to think about the clashing of multi universes... That opens up A LOT more for me to think about!
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Macknorton: Thank you for reading and taking your time to comment. I understand that you want to find a logical solution. I've wanted one myself for years. It wasn't a man on stilts or a performer. It didn't make any steps toward the car, it appeared there instantly. I've tried so many times to break it down in my head but I have to just look at the experience exactly as it happened. As for your question about if I've had other bizarre unexplainable experiences - I have posted a story previous to this one about seeing a shadow man. I have also been able to dream of loved ones before they were born (my little sister, my daughter, etc) and people who have passed away have contacted me in dreams as well. But I am passive about it. As in, I have never tried to tap into that or explore it further. I can just say that is has happened most of my life sporadically. Again, thank you for taking time to think about what happened to me that day.

Hawaiifemme: I KNOW, it was so freaky! To answer your question - it happened in La Verne, CA.
Hi...Ishaan again... Iam back on the site somehow.

How have you been man...?
Hi Alma,

When we stay anywhere away from home there's probably a primal survival part of our mind that kicks in, especially when we're about to sleep. Something of an internal security alarm. (This is my theory it's not any proven fact to my knowledge). If true, a heightened alertness, however slight and unnoticeable, could have allowed you to sense things in the room you otherwise wouldn't have.

Hope that makes sense.
Huh? Can someone please explain to me what the heck was wrong with my comment? Three downvotes for that? 😳

Only checked in to see if anyone else had piped up about hearing weird voices with this kind of thing, god blimey.
Spiritwaiting, I took a break from the site and missed the video. (The link says it's removed.) No big deal if you don't want to upload it again.
I really wanted to apologise for my conduct over the last week or so. It's been bloody deplorable and I'm sorry for that. I have PMDD which is not a direct cause for rudeness nor is it an excuse. I've really wrestled with whether or not to say that, because I fear it would seem contrived. Please don't take it as a ploy for sympathy either, I want you to understand that it's really me at fault and NOT you. Regardless of where in the month I may be.

Miracles, oh god, Jubilee again. Look, I've been thinking about this during the week and I really think I got it wrong with her. She joined around donut time and that flipping idiot that consumed the site for yonks. Jubilee was sickeningly nice to everyone when she first joined and it eventually made me suspicious. But you know what, she's just like that cause she's nice. Some people are naturally sickeningly nice. Nothing wrong with that. I latched onto my suspicion of her, and Rex, (thought they were the same person), and didn't let go. But when I thought about this during the week I realised my suspicion was outdated. That I was living two years or whatever in the past. Reckon I was at fault there too. Because when I think about everything I've read of her now there's like nothing wrong with it.
Think I'll send her an email about this sometime in the near future. Feel I owe her that.

Umm, so in the interest of keeping things on topic, because that above was pretty long winded. Spiritwaiting, I've noticed a house theme in your narratives. (Think I'm remembering that right) anyway I think I've picked up something I don't know how to express but it could be empath related I guess. Are you the kind of person who remembers locations more than, or just as much, as people? If so the energy in your home could be allowing you to fire on all cylinders. Also the voice in the recording, maybe you're making it out because you've heard it before. Subconsciously you recognise it's there. While the rest of the forum can't hear a peep. Hope that makes sense. It's just that sometimes people swear they hear things on recordings and others can't. Maybe it's more of a psychic link between individual and entity unknown rather than a physical capturing of voice phenomena.
I did some googling and I think I found the lane you mentioned - and the Captain Ellis for whom it was named (https://www.google.com/amp/s/ancestors.familysearch.org/en/KLGF-1MW/captain-nathaniel-ellis-1731-1770) Given the age of the development, it seems reasonable to assume that the street may have been given this name after the family who lived on the premises. Little is to be found on their private lives but for the fact that they did have 8 children - perhaps there was an accident involving one of the kids or a tragic disease (that's presuming, of course, that the ghost you saw was associated with that family). The appearance the child presented seemed like what the body goes through during decomposition - perhaps his burial plot was nearby (you may not have seen headstones as often family plots are quietly removed... Meaning just the headstones and turned back into farm land by later owners). The captain was buried in a church cemetery but that doesn't necessarily mean that the children were too - also if the child died in the winter, his body may have been kept in that shed (or a building that had stood in or near that spot) until the ground had thawed enough to bury him either in a family plot or in the churchyard.
you hear crying sound from bathroom no one at the πŸ€” inside the room may be ghost try to tell about covid more horror going to happen
T_L_V_11,

I think the more you and I converse, the more questions we come up with however yes, again you have added some food for thought, the other phenomenon of which I'm convinced relates more the the clashing of universe's as opposed to a bad memory is the Mandela effect? (I'm 100 percent convinced the phenomenon is the real deal)

Tom cruise wore sun glasses and a pink shirt in that famous movie risky business?.

Dolly wore braces in that James Bond movie Moonraker?.

The Ford logo?.

The Matrix, what if I told you?.

Laurel and Hardy: Another fine mess?

Etc,etc,etc

There seems to be some sort of over lapping glitch that actually has a cause and effect reaction to our history where it literally changes the details.

In 1977, Phillip K Dick called for a meeting with the press where he made this claim "we are living in an computer simulation"... In his statement, he said the only clues we have are when there are small glitches in the system...I'm pretty sure he was referring to the Mandela effect?...he was laughed at by everyone however today... There are some serious smart physicist basically claiming the same as Phillip K Dick, even Elon Musk believes we are in one.


Donald Hoffman who wrote a cause against reality, basically claims we are tuned in for survival not truth, Consciousness is fundamental and our reality is basically a virtual reality. This guy is basically the next Albert Einstein, check him out he is brilliant.

The interesting aspect of the Mandela effect, is the fact that not everyone remembers it differently. For example, I only remember 4 in the car with JFK, however some folk remember 6...is this evidence of two universe converging as one where the mass of consciousness wins out at the end of the day? It only ever seems to be 1 or the other?

On a side note:It makes sense to me why the mass of the population is tune in for survival not truth, I don't believe we are meant to know the whole truth because it may defeat the purpose of being here, I can't help myself, however the more I learn, is the less I know or something like that.

Regards!
Kindly_Refrain

Wow mate at this part of your reply:

"One day a child of a visitor started speaking to unseen persons to her left and right while sitting in the middle of the couch. When asked who she was talking to she said it was the man and lady. My sister showed her the most recent picture of my parents and the girl said, "that's them, but their not that old". When she was shown a picture of my parents on their wedding day she said that is what they look like".

The first time I saw my father after he passed away K_R, I was around 35 years old, it looked like him, however his face was thin of which gave me some doubt until my mother showed me a picture of their wedding day and that confirmed it was good old pa, he was around 20 when he was married and about 11 stone ringing wet. This apparition of him outside, was him as a young man.

When he died he was around 17 stone looked much older and face was basically more round liked shaped due to being over weight plus mom never kept her wedding photo's out on display, so it was kind of neat seeing that picture to validate who it was exactly.

Yes,my mother hugged me and spoke with me, however on another occasion when I seen her walking around outside she looked about 40. She visited me just about every year after that around about the same time with different types of validations.

What I have since come to research and learn via other mediums and research. We have the ability in the afterlife to look as young or as old as we like, usually we pick the age we look at prime of our life. I do remember reading somewhere, only those who have crossed over into the spiritual realm, have the ability to reappear younger as those who don't cross because of unfinished business or refuse to believe they have died.

Thank you for sharing that added information and take heart in knowing they are completely in the spiritual realm watching over you guys.

Regards!
Hi Unforgiven

Thanks for deciding to post this experience. It certainly must have been unsettling for you.

My logical mind first thinks: is there a rational explanation for what you saw? Here's my two theories; the first one is you had some kind of hallucination. However this theory is improbable if you were / are not susceptible to hallucinations and have not had any since this experience.

My second theory would be that it was possibly a flesh and blood human being; a street performer type of person, wearing a mask on stilts "performing" in the Mall area, who decided to "perform" for your "pleasure". You mentioned this figure seemed to get to your vehicle quickly, however if it's matter of 2 or 3 car parks away that could be achieved, on stilts, in one or two strides which would take a couple of seconds if they were adept on them.

The fact that this figure then seemed to disappear completely adds some additional weirdness to the already bizarre experience, but there MAY be a possibility it did lope away to "delight" another unassuming person and you maybe just missed seeing where it went?

Full blown spirit apparitions with such detail, and for the length of time, out in broad daylight, and in such a public place are extremely unusual, as far as I'm aware. If this figure was, indeed, of spiritual nature, and it was manifesting in this busy carpark for you to observe it, I wonder if anyone else saw it as well. If not, why not? It's the kind of thing people would remember seeing in a Mall carpark (as you have).

Have you had any other bizarre unexplainable experiences in your life other than this one? Do you feel you have any psychic abilities? I ask because generally folk who have these kind of vivid spirit / ghost / otherworldly being encounters tend to have a whole raft of other abilities and experiences as well.

Thanks again for sharing, it's certainly a head scratcher, this one. I hope I've added another viewpoint that may help with you understanding your experience.

Regards

Mack
At aussiedaz, good point, that's an interesting observation regarding the reports of doppelgangers. It's also a theory that is behind the sightings of the so called shadow beings, their apparent lack of ability to manifest as anything other than a shadow. Many believe they are from another time or dimension. Your comment about the multiverse and time slips got me to thinking of the various times of year when it's said the veil between worlds is thinnest. Most believe this refers to the veil between the spiritual and physical, but what if it could refer to planets, other universes, other 'times' as well? If everything is in a vibratory state and what some theorists state is real, that many universes or times are overlaid, one on top of another, the only difference being the vibration in any particular 'reality', then it opens up some interesting possibilities and perhaps explanations as well! The being from the OP's experience could have been a result of such an event!
aussiedaz, getting a hug from your departed mom is amazing.
My sister did not get a hug but has had many goings on in her home from what seems like multiple entities, some good experiences some not.
One day a child of a visitor started speaking to unseen persons to her left and right while sitting in the middle of the couch. When asked who she was talking to she said it was the man and lady. My sister showed her the most recent picture of my parents and the girl said, "that's them, but their not that old". When she was shown a picture of my parents on their wedding day she said that is what they look like.
My sister has also had strange phone calls full of static and the sense of many people there generating background noise, such as at a party. Through all this she has heard what sounded like my mothers voice. This has not happened for a while though.
My wife's experience was that, a couple of weeks after my mother's death, she awoke in the middle of the night and saw a blue flower floating beside her. When she focused more she saw it was my mother holding it out to her in her hand. My mother then faded away with the flower.
I would love to hear your other experiences, this was such an amazing story, thank you for sharing, I love the descriptive details too- ❀
Also, what town was that in? I lived in Southern California for a long time.
Girl.
"When I turned my head away from it, it was immediately at my window." 😨
That part is so freaky that I had to put my phone down and deal while a couple of tears came out. You were very brave.
Hi Kindly_Refrain

I was fortunate enough to see both of my parents after they died, my mother actually mustered up enough energy to hug me as we had a brief conversation on one night of which was quite amazing to experience, I'll treasure those accounts until the day I die and go home... It probably doesn't matter which one of them it was and I hope you don't over think the style of music and the Artist, just being able to turn on the radio alone takes some serious amount of concentration and energy from our departed loved ones.

I do remember not long after my father died in 1999 I was having a conversation with my mother over the phone when she told me an Elvis ornament started playing love me tender right in front of her whilst she was grieving... This is the man who stormed out of an Elvis movie?

Anyway, take it as a sign, I would based on what you have written.

Regards!
Hi Aussiedaz, my mother was also not a fan of Elvis and referred to his pelvic gyrations as silly. She loved symphonic and choral music. She rarely even listened to the radio except in the mornings to see if the night's snow fall cancelled our school bus.
As far as these being signs to my sister, she has made herself known in much more definitive ways at my sister's home (and once to my wife at my house). My father has joined in as well.
The moon walk date of July 20th has no significance to my immediate or extended family, but my dad was very keen on the space program and its culmination to that point especially.
In short, I really do not think it would be my mom making herself known in her former house as she has made better "appearances" next door. My dad... Well maybe.
Although Elvis did not fall into his interests the moon walk certainly did.
unforgiven1 - Out of curiosity, if I can ask you these questions (: have you ever dreamed any of the following?

1. That you can fly?
2. You were able to breath under water?
3. You were a giant?
4. You were a small person in a land of Giants?
5. Lucid dreamed of talking to people you never met before?
6. Dreamed of future events?

TLV_11- a couple of good added points there we only need to look on this planet to observe the weirdness of living creatures, we shouldn't think the human shape and level of intelligence is at the top of the tree in a universe billions of years old with billions of potential planets and countless multiverse's. I believe String Theory is close to the mark in some aspects?... On a side note, Doppelgangers may be the clashing of multi universes in a time slip, there are a number of stories here where folk have reported seeing or someone else seeing their double. This account here may also fall under the category of clashing multi verses where the other being was intelligent enough to understand what was happening and tried it's best to come across as friendly.

Regards!
Hi unforgiven1, great story, thanks for sharing! I can certainly understand your response at sighting this 'being' whatever it might be. As aussiedaz stated, it obviously seemed to recognize you and was excited to interact with you. There are many theories of us being in a sort of multi universe, as aussiedaz also said, many planets coexisting with a variety of life forms in this vast expanse called space and time. That being said beings from a different world or dimension as it were can have a different vibration to them lighter or heavier than our own planet, The so called laws of physics that define how matter behaves on this planet may not necessarily apply to a visitor who's home and vibration may be different. It's akin to how men walk on the moon since the moons gravity effect is very different on their physical structure, if you think of it this way, then this 'visitor' may have a higher vibration enabling not only the faster waving but the ability to move so quickly from a spot, several parking spaces over to right at your window in no time. The vibration difference may also explain the appearance of the 'melted' face, it's physical appearance also affected from the fast vibration. Think of it, if someone set you to vibrating up and down, very fast, would your face be clear, your facial features would appear to melt together. You had said you didn't look at this being long before you turned away. It knew you could see it, and wanted to interact. My feeling is that either it knew it was freaking you out or that you were indifferent to it's presence so it left you alone as quickly as it had arrived. You had mentioned you were terrified more or less, but that seemed in your story to be due mostly to its appearance, size and the fact your mind informed you that it shouldn't be there. Thinking back on it, did this being give off any kind of bad vibe at all, or was your fear mostly produced by your reaction to it? If you can re-examine the encounter from this perspective, it may take take on a different meaning for you. Hopefully this helps, it's another explanation and I'm willing to clarify anything I can. Thanks for sharing!
Kindly Refrain, I read through your other story "Oma's denial of a guest house"and made a couple of mental notes about the activity your mother picked up on before she passed away... Your mother said this:

""sometimes at night she would hear sounds as if someone was working at the workbench in the basement. She would also hear the sound of the vice being used. She quickly followed this by saying, "You know... House noises"

Ok, Did your mother like Elvis? Probably a silly question, just about every woman on the planet around that time adored him as most of their husbands turned green with envy, my father stormed out of a picture theatre as my dear old mother was screaming her lungs out for Elvis back in the 60's.

I think this latest activity is all about a sign for your sister from her mother. After the last time there were noises in the basement, both of you investigated it and then your sister heard banging noises in her own home of which was probably your Dad trying to let you guys know he's there? After all, all souls try to send messages unfortunately they are always not received or interpreted due to certain conditions, belief systems etc.

Your mother probably knew the neighbour would relay the odd account to your sister and she's hoping your sister will take it as a sign via a channel of music that she likes and not your father's style.

In relation to the Moon landing?

Is that date of any significance to your family? Birthday, Anniversary etc?

If not, maybe that one is for you mate?

Thank you for sharing,

Regards Daz
[at] The_Lost_Voyage_11: What it looks like to me is that there was initially just a small dirt road encircling a farm, with several houses around it. Then, the main road was built years later, and it runs adjacent to one side of the farm. So the farm and its surroundings are still there, but the main road now includes the addresses of some of those houses and the farm, which were incorporated into the main road.

The farm looks empty and abandoned, but it is part of someone's property.
Hi RCRuskin, by the time my brothers and I were into music it wasn't on my dad's shortwave/ AM radio and Elvis was not on our "play list".
If the music my sister's neighbour heard, instead, reflected the sounds coming from my basement bedroom stereo it would have been Supertramp, ELO, Blood Sweat and Tears etc... Or even the reboot of the radio murder mysteries that were playing in the later 70s.
As for a time slip, I would grant the possibility, but I would think that the chance the program would have been as noteworthy as the moon walk (or Elvis for that matter) is slim. I would have more expected a radio ad for soap flakes or some other inane thing.
I believe the content of what the neighbour heard was not a random "blast from the past" but that it was specifically chosen programming for him or someone to hear. I do not, however, know the reason why or with any certainty at all who caused the play back.
Kindly Refrain, you said your dad would not have listened to Elvis, but what about you and your siblings? The moon landing bit seems odd, but this just strikes me as a time slip more than anything really ghostly. The speaker, you did say, put out sound over a wider space.
Lightmight: Thank you, and yes it was so frightening! It wasn't a prank or hoax though because no one can just appear and disappear like that.
I can see why it reminds you of that clown craze a few years ago but this took place around 16 years ago.
I know I'm the one who mentioned the word clown in my account but it was just to explain how it was waving obnoxiously. It wasn't a clown, just reminded me of one with the insane waving.
Thank you for taking the time to read and comment.

Melda: Yes, it actually felt like that. Like I was being pranked by this thing. The way it was waving at me crazily and then appearing at my window the instant that I tried to ignore it. And just dissappearing into thin air. Seemed so trickster. I can't wrap my mind around it after all these years.

Aussiedaz: I really like your explanation. It takes away the fear aspect. Because whatever it was - it was horrible to look at. Melted plastic looking and no eyes... And the eagerness it had at getting me to look at it was really unnerving. But you're right, it certainly acted like it knew me. Who knows from where and when though...
Hi Unforgiven,
While I was reading your story, I had the distinct feeling that this being recognised you and was delighted to see you, so now having read the comments, I have to agree with Daz on this one.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if you met this being again at some point in the future, only this time, you'll recognise him and be delighted to see him! Thank you for sharing such an interesting story with us!
lady-glow in Menacing Entity
Hello Mimi30.

I'm having trouble understanding several parts of your narrative and have the same questions as Macknorton plus some of my own.

"As I came out, he whispered and asked to turn on the light"

"Our daughter was old enough to hold a phone and take pictures. She took 3 consecutive photos"

Do you mean by this that your daughter was taking pictures in the dark while your husband was squealing on bed, or did she take the pictures at random some other day?

"He was frozen in fear. He asked me to look at his chest area to see if there was anything, like an indentation."

Was there anything abnormal on his chest? If not, have you considered the possibility of him having an episode of sleep paralysis?

Did your son ever see the black mass in his room?

What made your husband think that the black mass followed you after moving away? Is it still with you? If not, did you do something to get rid of it or did it disappear on its own or, perhaps, stayed behind after moving again?

How long has it been since all these events happened?

Just because the house was newly built, there's no guarantee that the land was squeeky clean.
Have you researched the history of the area?
Macknorton in Menacing Entity
Hi Mimi30 - thanks for sharing. Can you please elaborate on this paragraph:

"...something grabbed my foot and I fell to the ground. Luckily, I was able to lean towards the bed and bent my left knee to prevent falling flat on my belly. I was more concerned with the baby that I didn't investigate what was there. I convinced my husband not to take me to the emergency room, so I quietly cried myself to sleep while monitoring the babies movements. Apparently, I broke my back and needed surgeries to correct the injury but only after the baby's delivery..."

Is it just me or is there so much in this that I don't understand that I kind of don't even know where to begin.πŸ€”

Someone grabs your foot from under your bed but you, or your husband, don't feel it's important to maybe investigate for an intruder, at the very least? I have 3 children and when my wife was pregnant, on all 3 occasions I was extremely protective of both her and my unborn child. Maybe that's just me...

You have a "broken back", 7 months pregnant, a possible intruder under your bed but you don't want to go to get medical or police help? You actually convinced your husband not to take you to the ER? Why? You just cry yourself to sleep? Why? Surely you must have been in excruciating pain; broken, fractured back or slipped disc...

I also can't visualize how falling forward from a slow walk (more probably a waddle being pregnant), I assume partially onto the bed, and then down onto your knee, actually break / fracture your back? I've played a lot of rugby in my life and I know what the human body can endure.

Are you 100% sure something grabbed your foot, or did you simply trip over something? Did you discuss what happened with anyone, for example your husband, a close friend or the medical staff who would have no doubt asked: "What happened?"

Sorry to ask so many questions and no offence intended, but to be honest, for me personally, this is one of those recounts that just creates more questions... Are you able to please fill in the gaps?

Regards

Mack
Hi unforgiven1,

I'm going to agree with Melda; freaky indeed! I am not a fan of clowns. That being said, after reading your story, I can't help but think about the 'clown sightings' and 'clown craze' that happened years ago.

Do you think that it's possible that someone was pranking you? Hollywood is a major player in So. Cal., a place known to capitalize on "reality" drama - maybe you were part of a tv hoax?
Whatever the case may be, it sounds frightening either way, and I'm sorry that you had to experience that!
unforgiven1

There are a few clues in your story of which offers me some ideas as in forwarding an explanation that may explain your account.

Most people are familiar with reincarnation and comfortable with the notion that when after we die, (depending on your belief system without preaching to anyone here) we spend a few years kicking back with our homies and loved ones and then after a while, we muster up the courage to put on our big girl or boy pants, dump our previous identity and ego, put on our comsic transducer then roll dice with the earth matrix and SHAZAM!... Here we are as spiritual beings inside a material vessel with almost total amnesia, (usually up to 5 years old) running around like headless chooks, with our fight or flight reactors and social religious or non religious beliefs systems stranded in a sense to do it all again (oh boy I hope I'm wrong, one life is enough pffft)

Here's the deal or theory, the earth matrix is only one of many countless planets, universes our higher self choose's from to spend a lifetime in on it's road to greater enlightenment or something like that. On a side note: The earth matrix is one of the toughest planets a soul can spend a life time in if not the most punishing... Or rewarding depending how you look at it... In a 1942 wartime expression, it's like being sent to the Russian Front.

According to Micheal newtons work when drawing down on my own conclusions on that elusive greater truth... We all belong to a soul group of anywhere between 5 to 25 other souls.

I would say first up, this 8 foot figure knows you on from the other side past life or different universe, you are both probably quite good friends and are maybe even in the same soul group? Or maybe you don't know each other and this friendly being from another timeline and place is getting it's rocks off through the fact you could see it? If it looked like Brad Pitt, you'd probably would have accepted it a lot better than you did rather than seeing an 8 foot clown waving a hand vigorously at you.

I can understand how this account would unnerve you and you're are probably wondering why I'm going into depth with an explanation? But ask yourself this question: imagine your own excitement, if you had a chance to wave at someone you knew 100 years from now, no matter how scary or indifferent you may look if you had a chance?...apparently, there are many planets to choose from where the apex of creatures are around 8 foot tall or even taller all shape and sizes, different physics etc"the good news is for those who believe in reincarnation, on some of these other planets, you do retain your previous life memory of which makes me think, this individual found an opportunity to track you down in this life to burden you with that excitement?


It may also be the case that this individual is preparing itself for it's next life here on earth and is casing the joint out in pre excitement, you were just unlucky enough to tune into that check out?

Anyway food for thought, I can elaborate some more if you have any questions, it's a lot to take in and accept I can understand that, however I get the impression at some point ahead most likely when you return to our spiritual home you'll know who or what it was.

Regards Daz
unforgiven1 - What a freaky experience! It almost sounds like Candid Camera with a difference - no one rushing forward to point out the hidden camera and no giggling bystanders.

For all you know somebody else might have encountered this weird character and simply hotfooted it out of there.

What was it? I have absolutely no idea but I hope one of the readers can come up with something logical (or even not so logical).

Regards, Melda
Hi, I've been eavesdropping on this thread, and have found all of the topics fascinating.

Personally, I've often wondered about poltergeist activity being confused with, and possibly intertwinded with the effects of negatively charged energy vortexes. Most of us know that poltergeist activity can be attributed to active kinectic energy that can manifest into physical diturbances, having noticeable effects on nearby surroundings and the living. Similarly, energy vortexes can affect nearby surroundings and the living by emitting constantly charged energy (positive or negative) that can cause disturbances which can be physical, and somtimes emotional influencers. There are differences between the two of course; poltergeist supposedly being manifested stored energy from a living source, and energy vortexes acting as portals for energies to pass through. Although I've often wondered if one can enhance, or intensify the other. Personally, I believe I've worked in a home (for an EoLC patient) where I may have experienced both simultaneously. I don't know how often they may occur together in the same environment, but I can only imagine what type of impact that might have on 'sensitive' or 'very aware' people who have to live within that same space...

Thanks to the OP for being so gracious while we share πŸ˜‰
Macknorton,

I do agree spirits and physical beings can project vibes of positive or negative energy however, I'm fascinated with how a poltergeist works? There are some scientific studies and theories that suggest the transposing of emotions from human to home is what causes a poltergeist although they do fall short of claiming the action of cause rest in the atom? I did however read a study on Dark matter of which this one particular lot was moving things around the comos like a poltergeist?

Anyway, I better get out of here in case one of our members takes me to task on physics we may end up with more questions than answers and me ending up with egg on my face.

Later!
You make some good points Aussiedaz.

Pondering further; I wonder why an atom would absorb a particular kind of energy and then proceed to emanate that energy outwards? If the negative / positive energy is not a "living" thing but produced BY a living thing, then one would imagine that the energy's actual energy (ouch my brain) would eventually cease to exist in that form?

I don't know enough about molecular science or energy so I'm just being imaginative and am probably way off the track. Bear with me...

We don't understand, from what I know, is how we get a "bad vibe" off people even when they often appear to be perfectly normal (case in point Ted Bundy). What energy, exactly are we sensing?

Perhaps the vibes we get in houses, places, are a host of unseen entities who are gathered in the spirit realm, that relates to a physical point on our material plane, unseen to our eyeballs, but sensed by our higher self.

I imagine people still gather together in groups and organisations in spirit as they did on Earth. Maybe when there's a concentrated collection of these entities, both positive and negative, we can really sense it?

Taking that further if we believe in spirits guiding and even influencing people; artists, musicians, reformers (and all the bad people too) then perhaps large groups of spirits are attracted to an Earthly individual in order to influence and guide that individual to help carry out that earthly individuals goals and desires? Whatever those desires are, good and bad.

So in summary, I agree that this "energy" certainly could be absorbed into our physical plane but also it may be lingering, or vibrating at a higher rate, in the ether (which if air is atoms, then they are moving around a lot right? Which further complicates some theories about "vibes" in the "air") around us and we simply cam't physically see it, but psychically sense it?

Just what that is, and what it binds to is still a freakin' mystery!

It's food for thought. Thanks for setting off my brain!

Cheers
Macknorton,

Just to add my 2 cent worth relating to sensing an energy with in a home.

When you consider Timber is profoundly made up of Carbon, hydrogen and oxygen atoms as is the human body made up of Carbon,hydrogen,oxygen and nitrogen, I do theorise just like experiments demonstrate with intangible particles that interact with each other across space and time and if consciousness is fundamental to our reality?... It may be the case, if a house has a happy tenant with positive energy, some of that energy may transpose itself via the oxygen atoms and into the walls of the given structure alas why you were picking up a good vibe at Jacko's house?

On the contrary with phenomenons like a poltergeist or a negative Nancy occupant, I do surmise it is the "atoms" with in the structure of a home to be the culprit that basically projects human negative or positive emotion?


It's probably also the reason cleansing a house works? The new occupant is basically flushing the negative charged atoms out of the joint and replacing them with positives atoms and a belief the house is cleansed. I would surmise the power of the mind/belief makes it work for those who feel they have succeeded.

Regards!
Hi virulentpeach, thank you for the additional information. That 'out of place' feel makes more sense, if the road and surrounding streets were built around this farm, it would make everything there look a bit out of place. I am curious however as to why the farm wasn't purchased and then knocked down, so that a better street could be paved and more houses built? That's usually what is done in these cases. Is this road on the outskirts of the town? How old is the farm? You had mentioned in your story the ages of the homes on that road were more recent like the 50's to the 70's, but the farm itself? Was it/is it inhabited or abandoned? My feeling is that something, or perhaps several things happened on that farm property at some point in the past. Something doesn't quite add up about that farm and the area of that road, I'm sure the houses there now were part of that whole farm at some juncture in time. I'm sure your imaginations figured into your encounter, but in most cases, something trips that off, something the mind picks up on but cannot rationalize, then it gets carried away. I believe most of what you related was just as you perceived it. Keep digging if you will and let us know what you uncover, I will be most curious as to what you find, there's a deeper mystery here!
[at] The_Lost_Voyage_11: so I was looking up the layout of the road and the history of the region and it appears to me that the farmland and the houses around it belong to a small dirt road that were all once one or two properties which have a small, now blocked, entrance on the main road and that Captain Ellis Rd itself is a newer addition because the houses further down are much newer and look like all the neighboring streets. It appears that the farm already existed and the street was built alongside it and the other dirt road circling it, which is why the entrance to the street looks so out of place next to the other roads. So there is some history there most likely that I have yet to uncover. I felt the footsteps sounded like an adult, not a child but it was so long ago I cannot be sure, I was too busy being creeped out!
Hi Virulentpeach, great story, creepy encounter. It maybe a mix of overactive imaginations and the overall creepiness of the road that tied in together, however it seemed to me that you noticed something 'off' about that particular area long before the Halloween adventure. It's no accident that there were so few homes and the road and farmland were so desolate. I have a feeling the streets residents also felt the vibe in that area. From what you stated, it didn't appear any of those homes was set up to receive any trick or treaters that evening. I suspect too that even though Jenny's mom didn't want you on that road because it wasn't lit well, that the real reason was the overall feeling she got from that street, the reason she didn't buy a home there to begin with. She couldn't explain a feeling like that to a bunch of kids, so it was easier not to give a reason and when pressed, give you the reason she gave regarding the street's poor lighting, more logical and definitely more rational. The whole area seems to have absorbed some negative emotions and experiences. Your friend saw a boy, but the foot steps, did they sound like someone your age or an adult? I ask because you mentioned as kids you would have difficulty fending off an adult attacker. It may indicate more than one ghost as well. Great story though, I enjoyed it!
GabriellSelena in The Haunted Church Basement
Thank you guys so much πŸ₯° I didn't think anyone would have read it... I will definitely write some more ❀️
aussiedaz in Haunted Ring
Hi Macknorton,

Yes, apporting is a very fascinating phenomenon, the presentation I'd watched involved a certified scientific based paranormal debunking team of which basically had the green light to scrutinise the seance with all of their technique and resources.

From memory they did this for at least a full week, the most interesting account was when one of the team were invited by spirit to sit at the table where the two mediums where both in a trance.

A crystal object perhaps a couple of sizes up from a marble appeared hovering over the table.

The researcher was asked by spirit to reach out and feel the object. On the first occasion, the object was solid.

On the second occasion the researcher reached out to find the object was completely hollow of any solid mass?

This spirit of whom last lived as a scientist then explained to the researcher, that this is basically how our reality is.

Our reality (in my words) is constructed through the power of consciousness interacting with the tools of the mind and our thought based universe that gives us the macroscopic illusion of solidity.

This spirit talking to the researcher is only pointing out what
Neil Bhor, Robert Lanza, Donald Hoffman and many others are claiming.

Time and Space are just tools of the mind we use to give us the illusion of a physical matrix... Consciousness is not a by product of brain tissue, microtubles and neurons although granted not proven beyond all reasonable doubt?... The double slit experiment in my opinion, is the strongest evidence we have in my view of supporting the claim.

If the brain created consciousness, I doubt there would be an after life at all, we would perish with the body. Terminal lucidity is another phenomenon that goes along way in supporting what I'm surmising.

Regards!
Macknorton in Haunted Ring
Hi Auzziedaz et al,

I read this thread with interest. The phenomenon of apporting (possibly not the correct term / tense or spelling - sorry) is fascinating isn't it?

I read an interesting account whereby in a carefully controlled sΓ©ance, spirits present were able to not only apport a wide range of items into the room but they were able to pass them (including a large bunch of flowers) directly through, unscathed, the (apparently) solid table in the room. Unfortunately I don't have at hand the specific details of where and when, this occurred.

I did kind of find it amusing as the Spirits were, to me, showing off a bit, but also demonstrating that our "reality" isn't that real after all, but a vibrating, malleable construct that seems to be able to be messed with when you know how.
Thanks Alma - If you are interested; Peter Jacksons house at that time was in Wellington - New Zealand's capital city was pretty cool. From memory I think it was in the suburb of Seatoun or somewhere around that coastal area - I'm sure he wouldn't mind me sharing this as he's since moved out to the Waiarapa area to some huge walled-off mansion - and frankly, does he troll YGS? If you are reading this, apologies Sir Peter if I have crossed the line!

Anyway, he had a couple of life-sized suits of amour in the large front room area where we entered, and I remember seeing framed pictures of Mickey Mouse and other Disney characters from what I assumed were actual stills / drawings from Disney films. There was a very friendly woman there sitting in that room on some stairs with a small child - I now assume she was his current partner Fran Walsh?

Anyway, me and Vince (I'll call him Vince for this story because that was his actual name) went up a tight staircase to the upstairs bathroom where Vince worked his plumbing magic. I waited outside in the hallway and right next to the bathroom was a room with a shelf that had tons of miniature stop-start animation monsters and creatures on it. It was so cool! Anyway it reads like I'm name dropping but anyway, any fans of Peter Jacksons work might enjoy that little vicarious experience.

But back to your other point about why are some people able to sense these unseen environments? I don't have any answers other than perhaps it's the same as why some people have abilities in art, music, sport, mathematics, or mediumship etc? Probably a combination of genetic chance, their spiritual / soul development as well as how much that individual works on developing those abilities and is open to them.

My wife has never had any spirit / ghost experiences so maybe she's not tuned into those very subtle vibrations? Or probably more that she's simply not that interested in that aspect of "otherworldly" Life.

Maybe others with more knowledge on the subject than me on this site have their theories and experiences as to how and why some individuals / empaths are the way they are.

It is fascinating stuff.

Cheers
Val- I'm certain that man in the car was as dangerous as you suspect he was. The gut feeling tells a lot if one listens. At least you know for sure that death can't separate you from your brother. He will always be there with you and for you. That was such an amazing story!
aussiedaz in Haunted Ring
AugustaM

Tulpa does suggest a being or object can be brought into our reality by spiritual and mental powers... Perhaps those items of bad energy you had were related to the phenomenon?

The other phenomenon worth mentioning here relates to "paranormal Apport" where spiritual beings on the other side can transport items into a room generally where their loved ones are.

I watched a link back yonder where two mediums under scientific control were in a room where articles sometimes dated back 50 years appeared (just dropped into the room?). The sceptics in this link ruled out trickery they even hired a magician to try and replica the event with no success.

In the same link, in a town in Italy from memory? An elderly man who was able to communicate with the spirits via a radio in a room packed with mostly mothers who had lost their children... At one point they were showered by an Apport of items that belonged to their deceased children.

It was Quite pro-founding to watch and hard to believe made up when seeing the joy on the mothers faces when talking about the items that came through?

Anyway, as we live in a what physicist refer to as a mathematical universe of potential energy, I'm wondering if that's another way of saying we live in a universe where anything is possible?

Regards!
Mack! Do not apologize for telling your story. It was great. It gave me shivers. I think we felt exacly the same thing. Only you had the better sense to the the hell out of Dodge.πŸ˜† It's interesting that your girlfriend didn' feel a thing and you almost bolted out of there. Why are some people more sensetive to theese kind of things? Whats decides who should feel what? It opens up a spectrum of questions really. I was also facinated about the Peter Jackson- story. I would like to get to feel the better side of houses one day. 😊 Thank you for letting me know your story.
aussiedaz in Haunted Ring
On a side note, my son and I saw two people in a ghost car basically disappear in broad daylight, as an observation, when Telly mentions he didn't hear the car pull up, that was something I'd noticed about my own account.

There was no engine or tyre noise.

Regards.
aussiedaz in Haunted Ring
AugustaM

Yes, it's quite possibly a real person caught on video, as I stated previously, they'd interviewed the two guys who owned the drone and they did seem genuine with in their claim it wasn't staged.

Putting that aside, this white dressed lady with black eyes seems to be an emerging phenomenon alas this story posted here.

Flesh and Blood spirits interacting as physical? Watch this link... Either Telly Savalas is making this up for kicks or it's a valid account!

Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Axdkv0_kJZQ&t=6s

Regards Daz
Hi lookin4answers,

I'm a producer currently working on behalf of the Travel Channel. Are you still having paranormal experiences? If so, please send me a message and we can talk in further detail.
AugustaM in Haunted Ring
The phenomenon you are describing, Aussiedaz, sounds very much like a "tulpa." A being essentially willed into being by thought.

I saw the program you mentioned (I think you can still find the episodes in Amazon Prime) and there were some compelling possible paranormal entities caught on tape but I thought that one in particular looked suspiciously like a woman coming out of the trees... Maybe lost... Maybe a mental patient... Maybe just the village eccentric - but she seemed very flesh and blood to my husband and I. I think this is the video here:
Https://youtu.be/za4nOvt99YE

I have had new items give off bad vibes too - not quite sure how it happens. I was given a small reproduction "Egyptian" (quotes because it was probably made in China) scarab and that darn thing packed a wallop of bad luck! That's been years ago now so I've not the foggiest notion what happened to it. Interestingly, these days my world is chock FULL of second hand items from the clothes we wear to our furniture, TV, dishes, decorations...heck, even our cats - and I have never had any sort of energy come off of any such item. Really very strange!

It was a bit of quick thinking to stick that ring in salt! I think Biblio is right that, by doing that, you broke the cycle and ended the haunting.
[at] Macknorton: I did include it but in the last paragraph. This is what I said:

"I learned that Jenny's mother had almost purchased a home on that street but had decided against it because she preferred the street they ended up living on, and she too had found the abandoned farm area to be creepy and off-putting and did not want us there because it was poorly lit"
Hello RCRuskin!
Yeah memories fly away. If I experience something simular in the future I will write it down. Thanks for writing!
Greetings,
Alma
Hi Cole

"...I know that the authenticity of the filter is iffy at best."

Cole, Cole, Cole...that's got to be the understatement of the decade πŸ˜† I love it!

Regards

Mack
Thanks for your response Ms Peach.

Yes, I agree; not proceeding down a darkened street makes much more sense in terms of reasoning from Jenny's Mum. It's a pity you didn't include that explanation in the initial story as that would have made much more sense to the reader, in my humble opinion.

I reckon what would have been a better reason for you and your friends to go down that darkened lane would be that Jenny's Mum MADE Jenny take her dog with her as the dog, let's call her "Spot" because she's a Dalmatian, right? Jenny's Mum would prefer you had Spot with you as Spot would theoretically protect you and plus Spot really needed a walk.

So when you're walking past Captain Ellis Lane, Spot suddenly sees a cat and breaks away from Jenny's grasp. Spot chases the cat into the nearby spooky old shed, set back from the road. Spot's barking and the cats hissing and Jenny's too scared to go and get her but Haley isn't. But then Spot suddenly goes real quiet... And then you all hear whimpering. So Haley goes into the shed and finds Spot cowering and staring into a darkened corner, and THAT'S when she see's the phantom boy shuffling towards her, out of the gloom. Then both Haley AND Spot (and maybe that cat too - why not?) all come screaming out of the shed, breaking all kinds of land speed records, candy flying everywhere...

Now to me, that's a bit more of an underpants-filler...what do you reckon? A bit much?

Peace

Mack
Hey guys, just thought I'd post an update with a bit of an explanation.

When it comes to surveillance, I'm not the only person living in the house. I live with my parents. Both of which are strong sceptics (I swear they're straight up in denial), and they aren't at all comfortable with cameras being posted inside the house.

Second, I don't have a job. I haven't had one in almost 6 years. As such, I can't afford anything.

I know that the authenticity of the filter is iffy at best. Which is why I make sure to only film in areas where I have already had experiences.

When it comes to the dining room, I've always "seen" things in there, especially at night (which is when most of the videos were taken). Not only have I seen things in there, it's also where one of my cats recently died.

When it comes to places like the staircase featured in one of the videos (the one in which almost the entire frame lit up), I always feel like something threatening is watching me.

There are even places in my home that I refuse to film in any manner. Simply because of how threatened I often feel in those areas.

Trust me, I would post cameras if I could. But as of right now, tiktok is all I can do.
spiritwaiting in My Path Has Begun
LightMight,

I also agree it could most definitely be a mixture of all the normal background noises I have going on. Contamination is a great possibility.

No I haven't heard the voice again. But I haven't recorded much since that either. The voice doesn't and didn't sound familiar at all to me.

I honestly don't know if that was anything or if it wasn't but I found it interesting and wanted to share to see what y'all think about it.

Biblio,

I can't even tell ya how many times I've listened to this. Replaying just to catch another noise I didn't hear before etc.
Yes my voice was at the 3 or 4 second mark. I was speaking sort of low... And the voice was what shocked me. But I agree it very well have been all the nose just mixing together to make that.

Thank you both for watching the video and giving me your feedback! It's greatly appreciated.

Sincerely
Spiritwaiting
[at] lady-glow: I did not see anything personally but I did hear noises around us (footsteps, rustling leaves, etc) that made me feel we were being followed/watched, and I did feel a "presence" but that was it. I have researched the history of the property and noticed that the houses in the area were built in the 1950s through the 1970s. So they are not that old. I have driven through the area recently and while I did not see anything, I did feel "off" like there was something not quite right. Whether this is supernatural I cannot say.

[at] Macknorton: She did not want us on the street because it is poorly lit, dark, and in the middle of nowhere (it descends into a desolate area that is connected to other darkly lit streets). She wanted us on well-lit roads only. I do wonder if her "warning" made us perceive things that were not there or our minds were playing a trick on us, but my own mother has said she too feels "off" in the area even though she is a nonbeliever in the supernatural.
Bibliothecarius in My Path Has Begun
Greetings, spiritwaiting.

I've listened to the video about ten times, now. I'm presuming that your voice is the one speaking around the 3-second mark.

I'm satisfied that the voice at the 9-second mark is inconsistent with the noises being made by your dryer. The pitch and timbre do sound like "hi," but it's a bit like the vowel has a glitch in it (hi'i). It sounds like a much higher pitch than your voice, too.

I have no idea what this is, but, as Macknorton pointed out, "other noises captured on that video could have come from anywhere, or anyone."

Thanks for making the vid available for us to hear.

Best,
Biblio.
Hi Caitlin

Not sure if you are checking comments or the very insightful and helpful posts / advice being offered here, but I also had an extremely unsettling "sleep paralysis" experience. You can find it here on YGS titled "Night Attack".

I understand there are a lot of theories about what these experiences are. Many believe it's not supernatural at all but an overdose or imbalance of chemicals released by the brain (which I recently read was actually 70% fat! What does that mean for Trumps brain? 100% fat? Ba ha ha ha ha...ahem...anyway...) or some other physical effect etc.

However my experience was actually verified by not only physical manifestations on my body but also my creepy housemate who seemed to know what had happened to me before I breathed a word of it to anyone.

So for me, I truly sympathise with anyone who has experienced the "Night Hag" or sleep paralysis combined with a sense of something very unpleasant in an extremely close proximity to the temporarily paralysed unfortunate, helpless victim.

Thanks for sharing - you are not alone. Hope it doesn't happen again to you.

Peace

Mack
LightMight in My Path Has Begun
Spiritwaiting,

Just out of curiosity, I was wondering this: do you believe you know who (or what) said 'hi' to you? In other words, did the voice sound familiar? And have you recently heard anything since that particular recording?

While listening to your vid, I had to use my headphones (Bose) at the highest volume in order to just faintly hear the 'hi' - but I did hear it, mixed in with all the dryer sounds. I get that you're new at recording and such; I think you did well, but just remember that noise contamination and bad audio can ruin a decent video...

Thank you for taking the time to upload and share w/us!
spiritwaiting in My Path Has Begun
Mack,

Not offended at all. And I agree. The voice could have simply been something from the noise in the background. And no it wasn't to prove anything. I thought it was interesting what I may have caught on the video. And sincerely wanted others to tell me what they think as well. I appreciate your comment. And thank you.

Sincerely
Spiritwaiting
Hi Alma

Thanks for posting this experience. I had a similar experience about 6 years ago when my (long suffering) wife and I decided to buy a new house. So during this process we visited a lot of what we call in New Zealand "open homes"; a day, usually a Sunday afternoon, where potential buyers are welcome to wander around the house and have a good old nosey (inspection).

This particular day we had viewed maybe 2 or 3 homes. All pretty standard, wandered around the homes and noted good and bad features etc as one does; all pretty standard and kind of dull.

Anyway, we get to the last house of the day; very ordinary looking home, standard layout etc, except as soon as we walked in I suddenly felt this overbearingly oppressive atmosphere. I still remember very clearly this feeling. My first thought was; "I want to get the hell out of here ASAP" but I tried to shrug that feeling of foreboding away as we walked around.

The house was well lit, tidy, very normal furniture, it appears there were young-ish kids living there. My point is, we weren't confronted with rooms painted black, giant pentagrams on the walls or strange human-sized mounds of freshly dug earth in the garden etc. There was just this AWFUL feeling of oppressive dread pervading the entire house.

My thoughts were basically; "Sweet Baby, teenage, and adult Jesus! What the hell has gone on in this house?" My wife didn't notice anything odd and as soon as we exited, which was as soon as I could, the feeling instantly stopped.

I can't explain that other than the atmosphere was thick with "something" residual, or possibly something / someone present. I can't say 100% those feelings were not emanating from myself, but I could not put my finger on ANY aspect of that house that would have given me such a massive case of the heebie-jeebies. I remember saying to my wife afterwards that basically I didn't care how much she may have loved that house, there was no way I would ever live there, let alone set foot in it again. Turned out it didn't interest her much anyway... The ceiling was too low and the kitchen was too small or something normal like that...

That wasn't the first time I had been blown away by a vibe. Around 1995-96 I was sharing a flat with a plumber with whom I would occasionally accompany him to jobs to keep him company and "help" I guess. Anyway one day we went to Peter Jackson's (legendary producer / director Lord Of The Rings etc) house to unblock a bathroom pipe or something; I can't exactly remember why.

At this point Peter Jackson was still relatively unknown but Holy Sh*t...when we walked into that house I have never felt such an incredible feeling of intense Love, creative energy, lightness... Just indescribable, incredible vibe in that house. Remember too, dear reader, at that point he wasn't anything global or anything, so it wasn't like I was already overawed or in some fan frenzy worship mode. Again his house was nice, open, airy but it wasn't palatial or anything.

So, in summary, I understand, and believe, that intense emotions (both good and bad) can be "recorded" in the ether and some people can be sensitive to these emotions.

Interesting, and thanks for sharing. And apologies for me blowing on and on... I have that problem.

Peace,

Mack
Macknorton in My Path Has Begun
Hi Spiritwaiting

Please don't be offended, that's not my intent at all but I'm sorry, am I missing something? Is this video supposed to be proof of spirits or ghosts? All it really proves, to me, is that clothes dryers are noisy. Just my 10 cents worth...

Any other noises captured on that video could have come from anywhere, or anyone. Any noises that can't be explained rationally, logically, in the clear light of day shouldn't then be simply assumed to be "paranormal". I believe we need to be a bit more skeptical before defaulting to "that MUST be spirits because I don't have any other explanation" mode.

I can sympathize with you if spirituality is extremely important to you, that's great in these truly crazy times, but the only really important spirit that you will definitely have a LOT of contact with is your own.

My feelings are make sure you get in touch with your own spirit/soul/mind and love and nurture that above all else, then you will be in a better place to share that love with others.

Peace to you and your family.

Mack
spiritwaiting in My Path Has Begun
The dryer was running in the background. After you here me" Hello" about 4 seconds later the Spirit says "Hi". Thanks for watching the Video. I really wanted you all to hear it and watch it.

Thanks a bunch
Spiritwaiting
The_Morrighan in Elephant
To all my friends in the US: please stay safe during this current insanity.
Blessed be.
spiritwaiting in My Path Has Begun
Thank you Valkricry! For posting the link! That's helps so much!
Augusta,
I'm so sorry you experienced that. I agree, I think COVID has produced what we use to call cabin-fever in a great many people, making them prone to aggressiveness and being well a bit of the not good crazy. (Gads, what did our great-greats do pre-radio days to battle this?) I also think we're seeing the masks people wear slip much more often.
I guess about all we can do (besides pray) is dump as much sugar as we can onto our little corners of the planet, and hope that life gets sweeter for all.
The_Morrighan in My Path Has Begun
I'm sorry but I heard nothing on that audio other than the OP. Might just be me though.
Hi, Alma.

Memories are fuzzy things, so not surprising you don't remember much about the hotel, and what you do remember is probably mixed in with other hotels and hotel rooms. Eh.:)

Like Lady Glow said. Too many questions, but too many years have passed. Still, an interesting experience and thank you for sharing.
Your account really resonated with me - particularly the way you put things together at the end - I think you are right in your conclusions. I have my own battles with depression and certainly all that 2020 had to offer didn't help one bit! COVID has effected us all in more ways than may be obvious... And I'm afraid many of its effects may linger with us for some time to come. My husband and I have been fortunate in that we have never been personally exposed to the virus (*knock wood*) and have not lost anyone too it (*double knock*) though most of his family has come down with it and several of our close friends.

But that's not to say that we haven't had friends "lost to COVID" - it's a kind of madness that sets in and I think it was at its worst during the lock down - but several of our friends went from being pleasant kind people that we shared everything with to spiteful hurtful enemies... And the change would happen with lightening quickness, one day we would all be laughing over (socially distanced) coffee, the next they'd be hollering vitriol and gone from our lives. It's shocking to say the least.

To your point about something that seemed evil at the time actually circling round to be an agent of good in your life, I've had a similar experience during this "time of plague." *TRIGGER WARNING: I do mention some light substance use here - I don't mean to promote anything and I won't be going into detail about that side of things only what is strictly germane to the experience.* I had done something extremely out of character but something I had been very curious about for years and tried an hallucinogenic substance (I won't go into details about what but it was organic and, not to worry, I am neither promoting drugs nor developing a habit) because it has been said to treat depression (I did my research in medical journals and with certain more open minded doctors not just woo-woo web pages). Granted, I understand that anything one sees while under the influence of any chemical agent should be taken with a grain of salt but cultures all around the world have used them to get in touch with the spirit realm so I don't think we should necessarily discount these "visions" out of hand either. To that end, I did not feel it would be wise to try anything of the sort on my own - my friend, Linda, who shared my curiosity volunteered to sit with me while I gave it a whirl. One thing that I had been warned about was that faces might change on me and possibly in alarming ways.

So I ingested the substance and laid back on the couch as ready as I could be. Aside from various non-probative effects, there were two striking things I experienced. First, as I lay there, I heard her front door open (this is a VERY small apartment ~700 square feet - the front door was but feet from my head though not in my line of sight) - though I somehow knew it hadn't actually moved - I heard and felt someone cross the space to stand beside the couch just over my head and my grandfather's voice say "It's ok, we're here" and then my grandmother's humming (they both passed when I was very young). Moments later as I looked around the room trying to see if anything in my sight was "changing" and not finding anything that was... My eyes landed on Linda's face... That was the only thing that changed... Her face morphed and became demonic. I looked away and did not look back until I was sure the substance had cleared my system.

I didn't tell her about her face changing because I didn't want to read anything into it at the time and didn't want to offend her in any way. Fast forward to the next week, she had come to my building for a friend's birthday party (we had it outside in a big field so we could all be sort of together but still safe) that I was hosting. Within moments of arriving, it was as if a switch had flipped, she started going off about my family tree and ancestors and that I should be ashamed of them and that I shouldn't love my family... It was bizarre and barely coherent but for the profanities. She was practically foaming at the mouth. My husband (who is very non-confrontational and level headed) finally stepped in and quietly told her that she needed to go. Linda is not a drug user or even much of a drinker - only her own "demons" and the heavy weight of the lock down could account for her behavior. I was so mystified and upset (and deeply embarrassed that she had behaved that way in front of everyone) that I needed to go upstairs to our apartment for a moment to collect myself. As I did, the change in her face came back to my memory... Paired with my grandparents' presence... I think it was more than an hallucination but a warning. Something that seemed frightening was perhaps presented that way to get my attention and let me know that someone I had invited into my life wasn't the person I thought she was.

Gosh - I truly didn't intend that to be so long. I don't mean to hijack your account - it's just that the two experiences seemed so similar that I couldn't not bring it up.

I am so glad that life is gradually looking up for you - we'll get through this! ❀
valkricry in My Path Has Begun
Link for Spiritwaiting's vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSc2YiYWoM0
Just because a building happens to be a church, doesn't mean it can't be haunted by entities other than the "holy ghost." There are many accounts from all over the world of sanctuaries (of varying stripes) being haunted by all manner of entities.

I think your account rings true in its brevity and simplicity. Looking forward to reading of what more you may have experienced!
Hello lady-glow! Thank you for your welcome! It was indeed an unnerving experience, not at all pleasant. But I'm here to tell the tale at least. I agree with you that it would be interesting to find out more about the location and the hotel. Sadly I do not remember the name, I could find out but it would take some serious digging through boxes. I can say that the hotel was suggested to readers in Footprints travelers (Chile) guide. Most likely 2000 or 2001 edition, depending on how often they updated it. I tried to google hotels in Barrio Brasil and hauntings but came up with nothing. The building as I remember it was wery plane and in a light color/shade. I can not remember the number of the room. Maybe 80 or 60. I'm truly sorry for the lack of details. But the effort from my side to remember this experience was low at the time. I regret that now. But anyway, thank you for your kind words about my experience.
Welcome to YGS.

What an unnerving time you had in that hotel room! I agree with the opinion of the psychic about a negative memory recorded in the room and you sensing it.

It would be interesting to research if somebody else has reported having experienced what happened to you. Does this happen to every person staying in this room or only to a few lucky (?) ones? Does it take place every night or only at an specific date?
Too many questions... Perhaps googling the name of the hotel could lead you to reports of people who has have experiences similar to yours.

Great story, thanks for sharing.
LightMight in My Path Has Begun
Thx for the info. Spiritwaiting.

FYI, you can copy and paste the link here in 'comment' once you create the vid at YT.
spiritwaiting in My Path Has Begun
Light might,

Kyra Daniels video " Spirit Talking". That's what you can search and it will only have one video.
spiritwaiting in My Path Has Begun
Lightweight,

I don't know how to find the link lol. But if you just put in search bar Kyra Daniels there will only be one video on there
LightMight in My Path Has Begun
Sounds good! Is there a link you can provide? I love a good YT vid πŸ˜‰
spiritwaiting in My Path Has Begun
Tweed,

I am most definitely not overcompensating on anything. I apologize for my words towards you. I realize I was being quite over dramatic. I am extremely protective over my beliefs.

Mania no. Trying to explain and write what has happened, and figuring out how all of you could understand the energy that I feel when I share these experiences with you is exciting. I truly do enjoy being on here and reading all of your experiences and then sharing mine as well.

I apologize to you and everyone else. I shouldn't have posted any comments until I read and then soaked it in first. I know better.

Anyhow... If you'd like to watch and listen to that video let me know.

Thanks
Spiritwaiting
spiritwaiting in My Path Has Begun
Hello all!

Ok I've uploaded the video to YouTube. I trimmed it so you can catch my voice and the spirits' voice right after. If any of you would like the channel I would be more than happy to send you the information.

I am still quite new to trying to upload anything. I spent hours trying to figure out sound cloud lol but that was a no go. So YouTube it is.

I appreciate all the comments.
Sincerely Spiritwaiting
LittlePig, LittlePig...
Would you answer any questions I might have if I read your story?

I went from "If you are bored with stories about little sounds and voices, I recommend jumping right to the end paragraph."

So I jumped to "The author, LittlePigLittlePig, has the following expectation about your feedback: I won't be reading the comments."

And decided against reading this experience.
Hi Virulent Peach

Thanks for posting your hair-raising adventure. I'm on the fence with this one but tend to agree with Lady-glows summation. This is one of those apparently true experiences that raises questions for me.

Everyone's different and we all lurk on this site for different reasons. Personally, I have an interest in trying to better understand this life force that permeates the entire Universe. We only really understand it when it leaves our material bodies, reducing them to ash, dust. But this life force, it seems to continue existing independent of it's physical body. But how, and where? And why do these souls, spirits, ghosts return to show themselves to us? How do they do it? Why can't we see them all the time if the Spirit world is all around us?

Why don't those who we love with all out hearts and whom have transitioned into the Spirit world return (a lot more than they appear to) and show us they are still alive and that they are always near and that they still love us?

Why do we seem to get accounts like virulentpeaches, whereby we get emaciated ghouls with missing eyes and bad teeth lurking in sheds terrifying random Halloweenies?

Anyway enough rambling... One aspect that rang bells for me was this:

Why would Jennys Mum say to these young kids: " we must be home by 9 PM, do not speak to strangers, and wherever we go, DO NOT go down Captain Ellis Lane.

"Why can't we go down Captain Ellis Lane?" I asked her mother, to which the reply was, "That's the rule. Now have fun." No further explanation..."

Anyone who's a parent would know that the quickest way to get kids to not do something is to say not to do something and then give NO reason whatsoever. If Jenny's Mum had genuine concerns about the kids safety in that area (which looks delightfully middle-class on Google Street Maps by the way) then she would give a reason.

What, exactly, did Jenny's Mum know about Captain Ellis Lane but wasn't going to say? Did she know about Casper in the shed that's set way back off the road on someone's private farm? If she did, then how? How did she know the children would go to THAT shed? My God, did Jenny's Mum actually murder that child and gouge his eyes out? Was she a Satanist? And if she knew that this lad was 100% going to manifest then she's made a massive scientific discovery regarding the paranormal that needs further investigating. Goddamn it! Jenny's Mum is holding out on us everybody! Someone track her down!

However, for a scary story's purpose, this vague warning creates great tension and then later is further explained by the unfortunate encounter with the ghoul boy. Ties up neatly.

Well written story virulentpeaches; keep working on that craft. Right, I must have some actual real work to do somewhere...

Peace

Mack
Miracles51031 in My Path Has Begun
Tweed - you are certainly entitled to your opinion, as we all are, but one thing I don't get is why you mentioned Jubilee. She wasn't even participating in the comments.
The_Morrighan in Elephant
Lady-Glow,
Thank you so much for your kind words. I rather suspect that you're right about the spirits!
Morri.
The_Morrighan in Elephant
Tweed,
I'm definitely the type who functions intuitively and all I can say is thank heavens I don't have Magneto's powers (knowledge courtesy of my eldest son lol)! My home town would end up looking like one of Escher's drawings!
Morri.
Tweed in Elephant
Morri, I've heard of the memory palace technique but I didn't know it went as far back as the Romans. (Is there anything they didn't do?)
Love the idea of a memory palace, it even sounds divine. But I'm such a dreamer, if I made a practical attempt at it I'd only go imagining wallpaper and elaborate furniture and on and on. There'd be no room for memories lol.

Maybe clumsy is the only way to describe an intuitive trait. If we're wired a certain way it's hard to put it into words. Where as the memory palace is easier to explain because it's a conscious process.
Macknorton?! 😲

I literally can't grasp ANYTHING about ticktock, or its appeal. So it took me a few minutes to realise the 'filter' latching itself, highlighting objects was supposed to be latching onto ghosts too? Wouldn't put any faith in that either, unless a ghost actually materialised for the camera. (We can dream) There's a dark shadow in one of the first vids that the filter didn't highlight, that I thought *might* be something. But it was fleeting and felt like clutching at straws.

Cole, if you want to get into this you kind of have to set something of a surveillance up. Leaving a camera on in a room for hours etc. It's painstaking stuff reviewing the footage. I've never done it for that reason alone. Not trying to put you off but if you've got an active residence, might be worth a go.
Macknorton.

It's so nice to 'see' you again! I have been missing your comments for the longest time.

Welcome back.
Hi Cole

Thanks for posting.

I've been away from this site for a few years now but thought I'd poke my nose back in and have a sniff around... And probably unintentionally upset certain people... Such is life lol!

Firstly, some advice (take it or leave it...whatever) if you are genuinely interested in genuine spiritual contact, or attempting to capture genuine spirits on film (honestly HAS it EVER been done?) I suggest the first thing you should do is NOT use a Tiktok filter to "see" spirits. Clearly the Tiktok thing is an extremely primitive party light-trick designed to be just a goofy, silly, throw away time waster.

If you are not in on this Tiktok filter joke, you need to be.

It's really sweet of others here to not (as yet) burst your bubble (assuming your not in on the joke yourself and are simply being mischievous by posting it) but in my opinion you need to be guided away from Tiktok and perhaps towards genuine self-titled mediums or other people who have the rare gift of not only being able to not only sense the subtle higher vibrations of spirits, but to also hear and even catch a glimpse (even rarer) of those who are existing in another dimension all around our own plane of matter.

Materialization of spirit (for our benefit) is an extremely complex and difficult feat to accomplish from what I understand
- which isn't much, trust me... And even then the recipient of the materialization needs to be attuned to the higher vibrations of spirit also. It's a rare thing. It's a coordinated and usually a conscious effort from both us and spirit to attune the differing vibrations (ours lower and spirit higher) to meet in "the middle".

Reading through these posts you'd begin to think that seeing spirits was as common as seeing shooting stars, or your favorite car.

I viewed your posted videos via your link (thanks) and I will just say that if anyone actually believes that these Tiktok filters show genuine spiritual beings, then the world is in a sorrier state that I thought. It's OK to be skeptical, and in my experience on this site, you really need your critical thinking turned right up to navigate the minefield of fact and fiction, genuine confusion, plain ignorance, and the down-right deliberate deception. As well as peoples sensitivities to skepticism.

Ahh it's good to be back! (I think...?)

Peace,

Mack
lady-glow in Elephant
This is such a touching story. I'm sure that Elephant came to say goodbye and appreciated your gift to him... And possibly a living person enjoyed the spirits meant for the spirit.

Thanks for sharing this lovely experience with us.
Nicely written though, in my opinion, it's hard to say if you kids had a paranormal encounter or if this was a case of collective suggestion, or even a good prank.

Have you ever since heard about anyone else experiencing something similar around that place? Now that you are an adult, have you researched the history of that property?

Whatever it was, it makes a good campfire story. Thanks for sharing.

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